Recap: Cleveland 86, Chicago 115 (or Luke Walton is not an NBA power forward)
2012-11-02You can’t really blame the Cavs. The Wizards were so bad on Tuesday that I’m sure the game just felt like another preseason game. So the carryover from that game to this had to lull the Wine and Gold into a false sense of security. Hey, Byron Scott even coached like it was preseason, once again playing Luke Walton at power forward for a particularly brutal 4 minutes that left Luke’s plus/minus at -11 for the game. But hey, it’s preseason. You can get away with playing a 32 year old 6’8″ guy who missed the better part of the last three seasons with injuries and was considered “unathletic” in his prime against a 26 year old stud who just got a $32 million dollar contract. I don’t normally believe in the validity of the plus minus statistic, but words cannot describe how laughable it was to see the Taj Gibson / Luke Walton Matchup. Let me just distill the experience for you:
Time | Bulls Play | Score | Cavs Play |
02:02:00 AM | 28-16 | Luke Walton enters the game for Anderson Varejao | |
02:01:00 AM | Taj Gibson defensive rebound | 28-16 | |
01:44:00 AM | Bulls defensive team rebound | 28-16 | |
00:34:00 AM | Taj Gibson defensive rebound | 30-16 | |
00:01:00 AM | Taj Gibson defensive rebound | 30-16 | |
12:00:00 AM | Kirk Hinrich makes layup (Taj Gibson assists ) | 32-16 | |
11:21:00 AM | 32-16 | Luke Walton misses 19-foot jumper | |
11:02:00 AM | 32-16 | Luke Walton personal foul (Taj Gibson draws the foul ) | |
10:45:00 AM | Taj Gibson makes 1-foot two point shot (Nate Robinson assists ) | 34-16 | |
10:33:00 AM | 34-16 | Daniel Gibson shooting foul (Taj Gibson draws the foul ) | |
10:33:00 AM | Taj Gibson makes free throw 1 of 2 | 35-16 | |
10:18:00 AM | Taj Gibson makes free throw 2 of 2 | 36-16 | |
09:45:00 AM | 39-16 | Luke Walton misses 25-foot three point jumper | |
09:37:00 AM | 39-16 | Luke Walton shooting foul (Taj Gibson draws the foul ) | |
09:37:00 AM | Taj Gibson misses free throw 1 of 2 | 39-16 | |
09:37:00 AM | Bulls offensive team rebound | 39-16 | |
39-16 | Tristan Thompson enters the game for Luke Walton | ||
09:37:00 AM | Taj Gibson misses free throw 2 of 2 | 39-16 |
So, a 4:23 stretch leads to an 11-0 run. Taj Gibson draws 2 fouls, gets 4 rebounds, 5 points and a dime, and a 12 point deficit extends into an unwinnable game. And let’s be honest. Taj could’ve had 6 more points. When the Cavs first put Walton in, I think the Bulls didn’t pass to him because they didn’t want Scott to pull Walton too soon. When I say that the Cavs sometimes play and are coached like they’re trying to lose, this is what I mean. In keeping with Hanlon’s Razor, this is either a ploy to lose games or incompetent coaching.
Anyway… I’m glad the Cavs got their behinds handed to them. The ridiculous bench rotations, the sloppy starter play, and the general cluelessness needed to stop. Kyrie played passably on offense, and shot well. But he and Gee’s 7 combined turnovers were brutal for the first unit. Boobie Gibson (not) running of the offense for the second unit wasn’t much better. Gee did crossover to the left for possibly the first time in his pro career, and drew two freethrows on an attempted left hand finish, which was nice to see. Varajao was his usual brilliant self on the pick and roll, and had several whirling finishes, but also some completely ill advised jump shots. Thompson was competent and played the least bad on defense of everyone on the team, but given the lack of depth at PF, he’s going to have to play more than 24 minutes a night. Everyone looked frustrated with the lack of execution, and broke out of the offense to the delight of the Bulls.
Austin Carr has improved as an announcer, and he had a very good point about the Bulls being more balanced without Rose than they were with him, and they certainly were tonight. They looked like a machine on offense and defense, though the Cavs looked like Tuesday night’s Washington Generals. Richard Hamilton played like it was 2006, and had a 7-7 3rd quarter all scored off of the baseline and elbow screens away from the ball. The good guys had zero answer. The guards for the Cavs looked generally helpless on defense. Hamilton, Heinrich, and Nate Robinson (the non-garbage time guards) had a combined 44 points, 9 rebounds, and 20 assists on 18-25 shooting, with only 5 turnovers. Wow.
So garbage time started about 4 minutes into the 4th, and there were some silver linings. Unlike Luke Walton, Smardo Samuels looked like someone who could actually play power forward in the NBA, and actually wanted to rebound and box out, as did Jon Leuer. Zeller needs to go on Mass Gainer 3000, but he looked adept at finishing quickly around the basket with both hands. Casspi got some deserved run, looked like the guy who was the Cavs’ best preseason player, and hopefully gets more run. Donald Sloan actually settled down and looked competent running an offense, dishing 5 dimes, though at that point the Bulls Psycho-D had been toned down.
Speaking of the Bulls, Thibodeau is awesome. He had two plays that exemplified The Bulls’ attitude. First Alonzo Gee makes a steal and and layup at 5:28 to go in the 2nd to cut the lead to 44-24, and Thibs calls a timeout immediately, in essence saying, “there will be no run.” Second, 10:45 left in the 3rd, and the Bulls are up 63-37. Deng goes way under a pick and roll and allows Waiters to hit a 19 footer, cutting the lead to 24. A pissed off Thibodeau calls time out and lays into Deng, and if my lipreading is good says, “What the hell were you doing on that play?” Let’s just say that the Cavs might be currently lacking that sort of attention to detail.
As for Waiters, the loss was not his fault (though his lessons on how to fight through baseline screens are hopefully well heeded), and he looked like he could get to the basket even against the Bulls, especially on a sweet reverse that schooled three Chicagoans in garbage time. And even C.J. Miles started to find his stroke toward the end.
Ultimately though, the Bulls are a team assembled and coached in a manner designed to win basketball games. The Cavs? Not so much.
hence “at the end of the day” haha
Thanks Hot Sauce (well, for being the bearer of bad news anyway.)
I dunno, Nathan. It was pretty damn bad in the first half. We couldn’t even run plays half the time…
The offense was actually not that bad at the end of the day, especially considering the horror show Luke Walton ran to start the second. It was the defense that killed us, and Chicago’s red-hot shooting. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bulls don’t sniff 115 again this season.
@Hot Sauce. Bravo! I agree completely with all your points and i continue to be amazed how composed and smart Dion is on the court. Esp when veterans like Gee show so very little of those same smarts. If anything he might be erring on the side of caution in trying to fit in a little too much and not being aggressive enough. But again, what poise for a rookie. As I pointed out above, Hamilton’s outburst happened after Dion went to the bench and Rip abused Boobie and Kyrie…
Do you live in Cleveland? Leagues Pass blacks out any games available in the local market, or any nationally televised games. So if you live in Cleveland I think League Pass would be useless. I use League Pass, but I live in SF. Since Cavs are rarely on national TV, I am good.
Off topic question. I’ve been thinking about canceling cable, does anyone here watch the Cavs through the broadband NBA League pass? Is it a decent option? Are games ever blacked out on it?
Calm down errbody, we went from playing a horrific defense to a great one and it showed. We’re not as good as the bulls yet, so let’s put on our patient pants.
Ben, Last night was even more confusing than Washington. Dion sat midway through the first quarter. I was sure he was going to hit the court to start the second. Nope. Sloan, Gibson, Miles, Walton, Zeller. That is not an NBA lineup. Like you said, I would like to see Casspi get a chance…maybe even with the starters. In that scenario, starters = Kyrie, Dion, Casspi, TT, Varejao. Sit TT and Dion midway through the first. Insert Gee or Miles and Zeller. Sit Casspi a couple of minutes later. Insert other of Miles or Gee. Start the second quarter with… Read more »
My main focus right now is Waiters. He is the single most important player. If he develops into an elite guard, this team has a rock solid foundation. While his final production was not amazing, I continued to be impressed with: a) his sense of spacing and patience, b) his vision in the lane (if his bigs could finish he would a lot of assists), c) his aggressive nature on defense and in attacking the rim, and d) his general willingness to play within the system. He has been light years better than he was in pre-season. This has me… Read more »
Also, Tristan Thompson shot 100% from the line, while the rest of the Cavs shot a combined 12/25.
Chicago shot 9/30 from midrange (2’s beyond 10 feet) in their season opener. They shot 16/26 last night.
The Cavs shot 9/20 from midrange in their season opener. They shot 6/28 last night.
Obviously defense played a role, but if both teams had hit midrange jumpers at the same rate they hit in their openers, the game would have ended 100-99 in favor of the Cavs.
Boobie has not been asked to run the offense. I don’t get why people keep acting as though he has failed at playing the point in the first two games. He has played the 2 every minute he has been on the floor. Sloan has been the backup point much to my ever increasing anguish. We have had two games to start the season with a second lineup that is perhaps our worst possible option. Dion MUST BE THE BACKUP POINT!! For the love of god, this is driving me crazy. To be honest, Walton’s completely incompetent play is no… Read more »
Walton’s PER is negative-12. PER’s are like golf scores, right? Negative is good?
Continued… When compared to a team like the Bulls who only have 1 undrafted guy and only 1 2nd round player who happened to be the steal of his particular draft.
I think there are several key points that this article is missing. 1 the bulls to start the game made some really well guarded shots, and were shooting something like 82% or something equally infuriating. And the Cavs, as was the case the night before just don’t have guys that can score consistently outside of Irving. 2 Howabout pointing out some positives Zeller, you did mention how good his quick release inside was, but man did you see how aggressively he was rebounding? I mean he definitely needs to get some lower body strength and was really pushed around down… Read more »
Walton played four minutes, yet more than half of this game recap is about him and those four minutes. I ‘m thinking that what the Cavs did in those other 44 minutes might be more significant. It’s not like if Scott gave those four minutes to Leuer or Samuels the game would’ve changed much. The Cavs need to learn to run the offense and space the floor. Their offensive movement stopped after a few seconds on almost every possession and the Bulls defense took advantage of that . In addition, careless passing early in their possessions made things even worse.… Read more »
I thought Gee should come off the bench before the regulat season and I think it even now more. He’s better against second-team players and Miles would get many more scoring opportunities with Dion and Kyrie playing with him. Of course, he can’t really guard many opposing small forwards, so…there’s that…
Miles and Gee have been particularily disappointing to me. Everything they do seems to be forced. On the bright side our least bad players besides andy are all recent draft picks. by that I mean Gee, Miles, Sloan, Samuels and Walton have been really bad the last 2 games
Cleveland is still rebuilding. They have a great player in Kyrie Irving, but are still missing some pieces before they are a top 4 team in the East.
Amen KJ. TT has been getting hammered and Byron ought to give him permission for a T. God I hate the Bulls.
Ok. Mercy. No more Walton. And I would point out that Dion more than contained Rip. Hamilton’s barrage was mainly against Boobie and Kyrie. Oh, and TT is getting egregiously fouled and I wish Scott would get tired of it and get a tech to draw some attention to it. Yes, TT has struggled to finish but a freaking foul is a foul.
Man, it looks like I will be preparing the crow soon as my boy Miles has been…not good…
Varajao had to take those shots because no one was open, and, more importantly, no one was moving. They just don’t understand how to play. I guess every one of them was a superstar at some level, and never learned team play. (I exclude the best player, by far, on the team, Anderson Varajao.) If the Cavs become a contender, the only nucleus players from this year will be: Andy, if he isn’t too old by then/Kyrie/maybe Waiters & Zeller/and that’s about it. Casspi and Leuer have the potential to be good role players, but they don’t get in. Samardo… Read more »