Floor Spacing Woes?
2013-01-13One item I did not mention in yesterday’s recap is something said by the Denver announcing team. During a timeout following their early struggles, George Karl told his team to play off the Cavs and make them shoot…because they can’t.
And he is right; the effective field goal percentage of the current roster, from 15 ft and out is:
- Casspi = 57% (49.5% career)
- Kyrie = 56%
- CJ Miles = 54%
- Gibson = 52%
- Pargo = 46%
- Waiters = 43%
- Leuer = 43% (last year)
- Gee = 42%
- Varejao = 39%
- Walton = 37%
- Zeller = 34%
- Livingston = 33%
- Kevin Jones = 33%
- Tristan Thompson has taken 3 shots outside of 15 feet this season
Notice that four of the top seven are not in the rotation right now. Take out Kyrie and CJ, and the remaining rotation players provide 41% eFG from the perimeter. Last night’s front court combines for 34%. With a big man rotation consisting of no threat to reliably knock down a jumper, opposing coaches will instruct their teams to pack the paint…and scoring may be tough.
The Cavs bench is thin. What can be done? Obviously nothing dramatic, but here are some hopes & ideas:
- Tyler Zeller needs to convert here. From 2003 – 2004 through the end of his career, the Original Z provided 42% eFG shooting from this range. I will hypothesize that this is approximately the rate where opposing teams need to respect the shooter. Tyler’s career success is contingent on providing similar floor spacing. If he does not, it could be difficult building an effective offense around him and Tristan.
- Casspi and Leuer should get some burn. Casspi is the team’s third or fourth best shooter. He’s big, gives effort, and rebounds. Leuer probably possesses the best outside touch of the bigs. I know neither of these guys are all-stars, but they should help open up the paint.
- Gibson needs to return, confined to a role of spot-up shooter.
- No more Walton. Here are some numbers from 2009 – 2010 through 2012 – 2013.
- His annual PER has been 9.7, 5.1, 3.4, and 8.2 (replacement level is defined as approximately 11)
- Win Shares per 48 minutes = 0.047, -0.016, -0.050, 0.004. He has been worth -0.3 win shares over the four seasons.
- RAPM = -1.3, -3.3 (58th worst), -5.4 (5th worst), -4.2 (17th worst). Over the last two seasons, he rates in the bottom 4-percentile of NBA players.
- WARP = -0.1, -1.2, -1.6 (no 2012 – 2013 data). ln 1120 minutes, Walton was worth three wins less than a replacement player.
Each of these metrics say, “Luke Walton is less effective than a player that can be found in the D-League. This has been true for at least three years.”
You know what else has happened during that time? Omri Casspi and Jon Leuer have performed at a higher level than “replacement player”. Why do the Cavs play a guy that is a decade older and produces ineffectively since the Mike Brown era? Casspi and Leuer are 24 and 23, both rebound better than Luke, both shoot better…what is there to lose? I obviously do not anticipate either of these players blowing us away with how amazing they are. They are young enough and proven enough to warrant an opportunity over a guy that the numbers unanimously agree is not an NBA caliber player.
Anyways, if Zeller struggles at this range, and Gee continues draining only 31% of his threes, a few rotation change possibilities exist to help un-congest the lane.
I really enjoyed this article. Usually blogs are great at complaining about problems and badmouthing coaches/players. Not only do you provide solutions, but numbers to back them up. Really well done. That said – how does management/coaching not see all this? It’s just another example of perplexing decisions & execution. Granted, I’m sure Byron is playing Luke because of his “experience” and passing ability – your numbers point out evidence that a change is probably warranted. And one thing I just can’t get past. From DAY 1, Byron has preached running the Princeton offense, and playing hard defense. almost 3… Read more »
pjinaz, Good thought on why Walton deserves PT. Sometimes using stats alone , even advanced ones, can cause one to throw out the baby with the bath water. There are valid reasons for Scott to play Walton, but there comes a point where his lack of athleticism and shooting skills are an obvious liability. Walton’s extended PT too often makes that obvious using the eye test as well as how it cab be accurately measured by the numbers. I have noticed that Casspi has become a little more like Walton with his passing and court awareness. I doubt that that… Read more »
Demeterius,
That’s a seriouis problem as Chris Grant seems to be driven primary by analytical data. If BS is not going to use that data to determine rotation minutes, then we have a large disconnect.
Casspi comes out tonight and throws up this clunker. The roster is so void of any veteran talent it’s almost amazing they’ve managed to put it together this way.
Kj,
I need to keep doing whatever little bit I can to get Leuer some floor time. At this point, he can’t dig any bigger hole than he has…
Leuer has spent the majority of his time on court getting beat to spots as a rebounder and being a sieve defensively. Walton moves the ball on offense and while he doen’t offer much by way of rebounding he stays in the right position when opposing 4s try to body him. Given all of the bs “old-school” rhetoric Byron drops…that’s probably why he sees the floor more. There’s a type of player Byron sticks with and develops. It’s the clear star and the hard working athlete. Finding the usefulness in a soft playing possible-rotation big or playing a large wing… Read more »
Demetrius,
Nice double usage of BS.
THinking back on what I liked about Leuer at draft time, it was: 1. He could shoot (per team possession, he was actually one of the NCAA’s best scorer his senior year). 2. He was a good defensive rebounder. His defensive rebounding rate was 4th best in the Big Ten his senior year 3. He rarely turned the ball over 4. For a senior, he was relatively young. He turned 22 one month before the draft. His rookie year, he performed with regards to 1 & 3 (19th lowest turnover rate of 352 qualified players). He was a bad defensive… Read more »
John Leur has averaged 12 minutes a game in his career. His PER is 3.67 this year.
Omri deserves more run, but if he gets it I expect his shooting % to fall back inline with his career numbers. He would still be better than Walton, but I don’t think he would make a huge difference.
There is a reason that Walton is getting playing time and I’m surprised that it is not mentioned more often or understood. I live in Arizona and am familiar with Walton’s game from when he played colllege ball. He has never been much of an athlete but he is very intelligent and a great passer. A very cerebral player who only developed this more during his time under Phil Jackson. During his back injury there he would sit in with the coaching staff and will most likely become a coach himself one day when he stops playing. When Luke is… Read more »
Leuer has really struggles in his limited playing time. And if you recall, earlier in the year he play for 15 or 20 mins a few games in a row and it was not pretty at ALL.
Dani,
CJ Miles looked hideous early this year, too. Making much of a three game sample size, in a new offense with new teammates, is silly.
Leuer played 555 minutes last year and was pretty good. Was that an illusion? Luck? I don’t know.
Leuer was also very effective at Wisconsin. The Hollinger Draft Rater placed him at 14th in 2011.
Kevin, So why aren’t they playing Casspi and Leuer? Contrary to popular belief might it be possible that these two players are, in fact, part of the Cavs long term plans. The Cavs just don’t want to expose them in any future trade scenario. Just bury them on the bench this year, and focus on trying to create some trade value with Walton, Gibson……Other than that, there must be some personal conflict with the coaching staff that we are unaware of. Considering the current state of affairs, the team’s record etc., it is just baffling to me that these guys… Read more »
TL;DR: Luke Walton is not an NBA rotation player
Come on, Ryan. This was 500 words. It’s the shortest article that C:tB has ever published.
I’ve come to accept that the only fathomable reason that Walton plays over Omri is because hippie-ass Luke gets Scott the bomb sticky green.