Preseason Recap: Cleveland 110, Orlando 105 (the time Anthony Bennet went all L.J. on the Magic)
2013-10-11Early in the third quarter of this game, I was ready to write a recap about the folly of drafting an overweight, tweener power forward over a guard who’s a stat geek poster boy for offensive and defensive efficiency. I was ready to declare the Magic a prime candidate to deny the Cavs a playoff spot. Then Kyrie Irving woke up and joined Dion Waiters in the “oh yeah, I’m the best player in this arena” club.
Cleveland overcame a 16 point deficit, including a first quarter where they gave up 37. The Cavs were keyed by a dominating run of 23-9 over the final 7:20 of the third quarter. Led by some defensive intensity from the starting unit, TT, Dion, and Kyrie scored 23 points in just under six minutes by forcing turnovers, getting on the offensive boards, and beating a path to the free throw line. Sergey Karasev tied the game at 11:07 in the fourth with a silky 23 footer, and then Anthony Bennett exploded for 14 points in the final six minutes, hitting his last six shots to close out the game and totally destroy my thesis.
Let’s talk player grades.
Dion Waiters: Dion was razor focused from the starting tip, and the only player that kept the Cavs in it during the first half. He finished the game with 21 points, three dimes, two boards, two steals, five snarls, and only one turnover off of 8-13 shooting and 4-5 from the line, in an all-star like 25 minutes. He cut hard and caught the ball for crisp finishes in traffic, he hit jumpers within the flow of the offense, and converted on a nasty alley-oop flush from K.I. Dion moved off the ball fantastically and drove and found open players with regularity. Grade: Flawless Victory.
Kyrie Irving: Yawned his way through the first half, and looked tired until the 7:20 mark in the third. Early on, Jameer Nelson and Victor Oladipo lit him up from the outside, when Kyrie and the rest of the Cavs defended the penetration and the three point line poorly. Of course Kyrie’s sleep walking is better than most players waking moments, and he was scoring, but just not doing much else. Then after deflecting the ball from Oladipo and diving out of bounds to save it in the third, Kyrie and the rest of the team hit the “on” switch, started playing sharp defense, and turned the game around. Irving finished 5-16, 6-6 from the line, with 17 points and 5 assists. Grade: Super Star (power up).
Tristan Thompson: Beat a path to the free throw line where he went 6-10. His right handed free throw stroke looked better as the game went on. He scored around the basket, in transition, and on a nice play that was was half way between a pick and roll and a pick and pop: a pick and eight foot push shoot. TT’s definitely no longer afraid to get fouled. He posted a solid 14 points and eight boards in 26 minutes. Grade: Maxima.
Anderson Varejao: Andy did Andy things like getting four offensive boards, two steals, and deflections that keyed the Cavs run in the third. Oddly, the Cavs ran no pick and roll with him, and Dion didn’t seem to know what to do when Wild Thing set a screen. Still, A.V. looks just fine, and that’s all I need to know. Grade: Blanka.
Earl Clark: Uh yeah, last year’s shooting that looked like an aberration? It was. Clark was 1-7 from the floor, 0-3 from three… I miss Alonzo Gee. Grade: Irritating Stick.
C.J. Miles/Jarret Jack: Both had mixed bags on offense. Jack was just OK, Miles had a couple timely threes. Both were routinely abused on defense. Grade: Bad Defense = Rage Quit!
Sergey Karasev: Really like his maturity. Watched him on defense and he looked good, at least from an understanding a rotation standpoint. Saw him double team and then perfectly rotate back to his man. Saw him hustle back in transition and get a block on Vujevic. He never looked lost. Also, had some nice passes. And oh, he might have the most picture perfect left handed jumper I’ve ever seen. Seven points, three dimes, two steals, a block, a game high +9 plus/minus, and only one turnover in 14 minutes? Yes please. Grade: Strider.
Kenny Kadji/Henry Sims: Kadji was bad: 0-3 from the floor and only 1 rebound in 9 minutes. He looked like he was pressing. Much like Manny Harris for the Magic, he may have no shot to make the Cavs because of contracts, which could be causing him to try too much. Sims had a nice plays around the basket and let the game come to him a little more, but again, one board in 16 minutes is not acceptable from a big man. Grade: Ryan Hollins at a video game release party.
Carick Felix: Despite poor shooting, he had the absolute hustle play of the game when he chased a loose ball all the way down to the opposite baseline and threw it back to Jarrett Jack late in the fourth quarter. His defense seemed solid, and he definitely has an NBA body. Looking forward to watching him in Canton. Grade: 1Up
Victor Oladipo: I was ready to hard core troll you guys and Chris Grant with some Bennett over Oladipo hate. Oladipo looked awesome early, with a tip slam, a nice step in three, and eight boards. But Orlando is making a giant mistake trying to make him a point guard. He looks stiff at times, he has very little wiggle — most everything is straight line drives — and he doesn’t seem want the ball in his hands to set up offense. Victor seems to want to pass it and move. His four turnovers and only three assists are a sign of things to come. He’s playing out of position. That being said, the book on him was make him drive left. Well, he scored off a couple beautiful floaters driving to his left. He got beat by Kyrie quite a few times, but had a couple decent plays at the end of the game on defense. He’ll be just fine. He plays big, and his 18 points and eight boards show that he’d have solved the Cavs small forward problem this season. Grade: Sonic Jump.
Anthony Bennett: For three quarters, he looked earthbound, frequently getting out-jumped on rebounds, committing multiple fouls, and setting bad picks. He looked like a chucker: a player who would keep throwing up bricks no matter how many times he missed. Austin Carr was talking about how he needed to take the three point shot out of his game. Then, early in the fourth he looked gassed — barely even trying for rebounds. Mike Brown stuck with him, I’m assuming just to try to get him in game shape. Out of a timeout Bennett, took Nicholson into the post and threw up some slop off the backboard that went in. Then Karasev set him up for a three, that Bennett hit as I yelled “no!” Next, A.B. caught a pass on the left baseline and hit a no-hesitation turnaround on Nicholson. Nicholson tried to get it back by backing down Bennett on the other end. ‘Tony held his ground and drew an elbow for an offensive foul. The next four Bennett jumpers were perfect, and the Cavs won the game. So yeah, maybe drafting a barrel chested, 6’8″ forward with a 7’3″ wingspan, a guard’s handle, a lighting first step, and a jumper that he can shoot from anywhere was a good idea. Grade: LeeRoy Jenkins!
@nate – I don’t understand the argument that Bennett and TT are redundant. They are very different players and create different looks for the Cavs.
I like Waiters. He, Oladipo, and Beal will be the cream of the Eastern Conference shooting guards for the next 6-7 years. My nitpicks of Oladipo over Waiters are personal preference, and mainly come down to Victor’s rebounding and defensive abilities being better than Waiters. I think Dion’s handle is tighter, he has more wiggle, and he probably a little bit more of a natural passer. As many people have said, Oladipo in the back court is as redundant as Bennett in the front court. As much as I like Jack, I’d trade him for Oladipo in a heartbeat just… Read more »
I don’t understand people who wanted Oladipo, He is a good prospect, but Waiters is only 6 months older than him and is an equivalent prospect, Jack is a much better fit for our backcourt than adding a 3rd guard who is a top 5 pick.
After watching dion and Bennett so far this year anyone who still wants oladipo and Barnes is nuts. Just bus
Oladipo is a bit small to be a full-time SF, but he could have been a part of a phenomenal young guard rotation…
I was okay with the Bennett pick because he can play basketball. If Tristan had Bennett’s offensive skill last year, the Cavs wouldn’t have drafted Bennett. I get that he’s an inch short for PF, but his long arms and wide frame will make up for that a bit. He’s going to look much better once he drops 10 pounds and gets back into the groove of actually playing again.
@Tom Pestak, Right!?!? I didn’t really feel like writing anything before this game either. @Grover13 Dion has one of the best step back Js in the entire NBA when it is the step back to his left. I have written about this many times. I have yet to see him take the awkward step back to his right since last year. When he does the left direction, his shoulders are still in proper shooting angle to the hoop and it is a VERY solid shot. Andy looks a step slower and a bit heavier than last year. Not horribly surprising… Read more »
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What is Mallory and his BFF hack buddy scott raab going to complain about? Or will they just say they were right all along.
Good call on the Kevin Love comparison, Hot Sauce. The upside is certainly there…
This is going to be a tough year for ctb. They’ve been overly critical of every pick and even after this draft they did nothing but complain. Then when the cavs make the playoffs how are they going to reconcile all the negativity with a good team?
Good recap! Re: Bennett v. Oladipo, I see why people like Oladipo, but you cannot teach a 7’3” wingspan. Bennett has more insane upside because of his unique combo of length, strength, and skill. I actually see his upside as Kevin Love with a bit more athleticism. Not saying he will get there, but he really has a super high ceiling.
Well, Dion was the best player on the floor last night. And grover13? NBA players make step back shots. And I told you about Karasev. The dude has been playing against grown-ass men for years. He is uber confident, not as skinny as many have made him to to be and has skills AND great basketball instincts. an absolute steal @ the 19th pick. Bennett is a beast. As he showed last night, he can guard people taller than himself effectively and his offensive game has unbelievable amounts of potential. He’s like a 21st century Larry Johnson. I disagree with… Read more »
Nickname for Bennett: Baby Huey.
Breaking this comp out for Bennett, He Looks like a heavy Carmelo Anthony The Jab step jumper, the one step spin turn around jumper, good offensive rebounder, even his (Comfortable) three point stroke is similar Its interesting to talk about Oladipo but pointless, Right Now Oli is better, Right now if we had to start one of them at the SF it would be him If Bennett can do what all of our draft picks have done. Tristan First, then Kyrie and Dion; Show up overweight/out of shape, and come back in year two or three in phenomenal shape, In… Read more »
Oladipo was fine defensively. He didn’t play at all like Tony Allen last night, though.
Wondering why the defensive minded Brown didn’t push for him.
Great recap.
I think Oladipo is going to be an all star, but didn’t look like a point guard at all.
I think Bennett is going to be an all star, too.
Six of one. Half dozen of the other.
As strong as Bennett is, he still looks like a baby to me. I’m trying to remember how thin LeBron was as a rookie and how he filled out. (Just thinking bodies – not talent.) In short, I’m thinking he can be physically dominant in two years . . . with that stroke.
I will preface by saying that I am and have been a HUGE fan of the AB pick. I’m not going to tell people what to write or think. It’s your world. But as I watch Bennett this year, I just want him to play hard for 20 minutes a night, round into shape, progress in understanding team defense, and PERSEVERE through the typical ups and downs as a NBA rookie. Seriously, that’s it. I think a lot of people watched Waiters struggle last year at times and somehow proclaimed themselves a clairvoyant and predicted his career arc. Through all… Read more »
And on Olapido….I also agree, I like his future better than Bennett’s, but an Olapido/Waiters/Irving wing just doesn’t work.
Now, if the Cavs had taken Harrison Barnes over Waiters like everyone expected, and then got Olapido this year….(DROOL)
Generally agree with your assessments Nate. I’ll throw in a couple more: WAITERS- I wasn’t entirely impressed with Dion as you were, although he did have a good game. Still saw some step-backs, and a few forced shots. But I will say this- when he was drafted, the line Grant loved to use on him was “he could get to the basket at will.” I never really agreed with that tagline- until last night. He was an absolute bull getting to the hoop, and had the strength & quickness to finish that he didn’t have last year. Me likey. KARASEV-… Read more »
We should remember that Bennett was injured for most of the summer which probably affected his conditioning. He obviously has some major skills. Also he showed some good defense and energy in the first half. He looked like he was trying to box out which was something that Mike Brown called him out for in the first game and that shows that he is willing to listen and learn. He is a hulking beast out there. That wingspan is going to sneak up on a lot of players. With Andy, Anthony, Tristan, the Kadji fellow, and Andrew the team has… Read more »
I also enjoyed the recap.
Dion scoring twice on dunks with off the ball cuts was nice. Also, in the first quarter, Dion drove, Kyrie dove to the corner, Waiters found him, Irving stroked the three. Definitely some strides made playing off each other.
I don’t know who Orlando is missing if anyone, but Cleveland still has Bynum, Gee and Zeller in reserve. It’s preseason, but nice to see a road win over what should be an overmatched adversary. Under normal circumstances (starters close out the game), the Cavs still win, because they have Kyrie Irving. So that’s nice, too.
Yes, a starting trio of Oladipo, Waiters, and Irving looks awful. Of course, a starting trio of Irving, Thompson, and Bennett does too. Oladipo would have been coming off the bench, the same as Bennett is now. So I’m not sure why, Shimmy Ya, you’re making a case against Oladipo fitting with this team, when the guy we took is going to be coming off the bench as well.
That’s neither here nor there, however. Most important thing in this game: Kyrie Irving engaged defensively even when his shot wasn’t falling. That’s brand new.
6’4 Oladipo playing small forward with two undersized guards…hmmm
Awesome Recap, Nate. Grade: Power Glove. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AacoxHFYvZw