The Point-Fourward: 80s Nostalgia and Cedi for Six
2017-06-14Four points I’m thinking about the NBA…
1. Did you know that Brook Jacoby was a two time All-Star? Or that in 1986, the Tribe actually had a winning record with Julio Franco, Cory Snyder and Joe Carter leading the way? I was rather surprised too. In my four-year-old mind’s eye, Brook Jacoby was just a quintessentially solid third baseman, Cory Snyder hit bombs or struck out every time, and Joe Carter was simply a superhero. I didn’t truly remember Franco’s first stint in Cleveland, although now that I think about it, I do recall an old baseball card. Googling Julio Franco Jerry Curl Indians…
Ah, the internet.
The NBA Finals concluded a bit before 6 am Eurotime, so I wasn’t exactly my high functioning (adequately functioning) self at such an hour. Still, I find it interesting that my first instinct after turning off the game was to google Brook Jacoby and Cory Snyder.
What about watching the Cavaliers lose the 2017 NBA Finals precipitated a sleep deprived internet dive exploring late 80s mediocrity? Why did I continue the trip down memory lane the next morning when I saw the open browsers on my phone? Arguably the greatest team in basketball history had beaten arguably the greatest basketball player in history, and I was checking Felix Fermin’s 1988 on-base percentage.
Theory 1: It was a coping mechanism. A year after reading and watching every post-game interview possible, reliving the eruption at “The Q” via youtube, crying on the phone with my sister, and generally being confused about this weird new sensation that people had only previously described to me as “victory”, I needed to shut my computer and think about something else. I certainly couldn’t watch some insufferable interview with Stephen Curry or Kevin Durant’s waterworks of a mother could I? That just wouldn’t do. But the thing is, I wasn’t sad. And why friggin’ Brook Jacoby?
Theory 2: The 2016 Championship changed my fandom forever. I had a lifetime of suffering through awful sports teams or teams that were great yet somehow found a way to blow it. Every miserable season intensified the city’s loser identity and spurned a correlated comedic self-deprecation. We, as a fanbase, luxuriated in our ineptitude, creatively coining “The Factory of Sadness” and taking an obscene pride in being the most tortured city in sports.
2. It was clear that winning was going to be a drastically different and far more enjoyable sensation. What is surprising is that losing feels differently than losing felt before. When the Indians lost the 2016 World Series, I attributed my general ambivalence to my decreased interest in baseball and a general desire to “not get greedy” as a fan. It was actually okay that the Tribe blew a 3-1 lead. What?
After losing this Finals and feeling the same level of emotional detachment, I can only conclude that the 2016 win scratched a lifetime’s itch. We are now just normal fans. Ya know, you win some, you lose some, eh?! I don’t know if I Iike it, though it’s probably a healthier form of existence.
Brook Jacoby? Bernie Kosar, Kevin Mack and Mark Price were obviously childhood favorites. Their success made them more admired and beloved. People still frequently talk about their trials and tribulations and their contributions to Cleveland sports history.
However, if you grew up in Cleveland in the late 80s and early 90s, it was far more likely that you spent your time in Cleveland Municipal Stadium watching baseball rather than football. The Richfield Coliseum was far away leaving the Cavs to be more commonly experienced through Joe Tait’s mastery. Baseball was accessible. Then, Tribe tickets were so cheap that day camp kids had free reign over the stadium’s bleachers.
I have analyzed and critiqued the Cavaliers to the nth degree. I certainly do care. It’s just different now. I can only gather that Jacoby, Carter and Snyder popped into my head because they were the main players on the first team that I really loved. As my fandom evolves, they, the birth of my fandom, returned to my head as a reminder, or as a tombstone.
3. Regardless of my particular emotional reaction, we can all agree that winning would have been the desired outcome. The Cavaliers are certainly in for a more dynamic off-season as “failure” seems to motivate change far more profoundly than “success”.
I’ve avoided most of the countless articles speculating drastic changes for next season. The majority of them are written by people with limited basketball acumen or are simply click-bait. I do, however, make a point to search out articles about Iman Shumpert. Anyone familiar with this space knows that I am abjectly against playing Shumpert meaningful playoff minutes. Any advantage he gives you as a solid isolation defender is mitigated by his complete inability to execute a team defensive gameplan. He’s a miserable offensive player and an irresponsibly overrated defender. Giri Nathan of Deadspin did some digging.
Despite this (offensive) stagnation Shump has found a reasonably lucrative niche in the league not quite as a three-and-D guy, but merely as a ???-and-D guy, with even that latter rep a bit overstated. Synergy Sports places his last season in the 52nd percentile of all defenders in terms of points allowed per play. Taking the full view of his career, he peaked his rookie year in the 64th percentile, then sunk down to the 21st last season before returning to the middle of the pack this year. To his credit, over the years he has sporadically excelled at isolation defense, landing in the 90th percentile this past season, though those plays comprised only 7.4 percent of the plays he faced; he was average on the pick-and-rolls (44th) and handoffs (37th) that comprised the majority.
By all accounts, Shump is a good dude. He is close friends with J.R. Smith and maybe Kyrie Irving’s closest friend on the team. That is no small detail. I’d be surprised if Kyrie were not involved to some degree in the “do we keep Delly or Shump” debate. That’s all well and good, but the Cavs bled points with Shump on the floor in each of the last two Finals. If the Cavs are going to beat the Warriors, someone else needs to take those wing defender minutes.
4. There are countless trade rumors floating around, but the answer may already be under the Cavs’ control. Cedi Osman, the 2015 second rounder out of Turkey, is likely ready to make his jump to the NBA next season. Osman has often been mentioned in trade rumors, but it is likely the Cavs’ best course of action is to simply give the 6’8″ swingman a Wine and Gold jersey and call it a day.
Osman is a tenacious competitor in the mold of Mathew Dellavedova, but with the physical profile more similar to Sam Dekker. Cedi is an excellent defender, anticipating and fighting over screens on and off ball. He has fast hands and reads actions well. At his size, he can slide easily between three and sometimes four positions on both sides of the ball. Though his counting numbers are not outwardly outstanding in Euroleague play, the 22 year-old has shown significant development since he was drafted.
Osman seems poised to be a fantastic role player early in his career. LeBron James loves playing with guys with that kind of motor and confidence to knock down the open shot. Osman is a good enough three-point shooter to warrant a hard closeout leading to what I call the “Jamison special”. As the pass arrives, Osman anticipates the defensive closeout and starts his progress toward the hoop even before the catch. That anticipation and quickness added years of offensive productivity to Antawn Jamison’s career, even after he had lost a couple steps.
Osman is incredibly fast end to end. That ability to run in transition as a wide receiver would likely please Cavs QB, Kevin Love. The Cavaliers don’t need a total overhaul. They just need some intelligent wing help off the bench. Touchdown, Osman.
I read that there are some teams that have showed interest in trading for TT. TT is a beast on the boards and a solid defender but against the Warriors he became unplayable because of his limited offensive game. To me it’s kind of the same situation that with KLove, if the Cavs are going to trade him it better be for someone that can really help the Cavs improve. Any thoughts?!
I’ve heard a lot about how high the Cavs are on Cedi and don’t want to trade him, but I’d have to think the odds are higher they flip him than him making a significant impact this upcoming season considering the shrinking window for this team. I’m as hopeful to be wrong about that as anyone else but that seems the most realistic to me.
The problem is, I don’t think many other teams are as high on him as they are, so they’re not going to get much in return.
Yeah I don’t think they get much of anything for him straight up, but if they make any moves, there’s probably a good chance he’s involved. I have no clue what kind of moves are even available for the Cavs.
I have heard there’s plenty of interest in him though, but probably mainly because he’s really the only non-core member anyone would give a crap about.
Any chance we could get PJ Tucker or CJ Miles this offseason? Miles probably wants more money than we could give him. Tucker might as well. I’m assuming we still have the mid level exception to offer?
Doubtful. Plus neither one of those guys moves the needle much.
Nate you are being too Colsian in defending Love’s defense. Kevin being arguably the best and most consistent defender on this Cavs team says way more about the Cavs than it does about Love’s ability as a defender. The Warriors, and most smart teams for that matter, were trying to involve him in the pick n roll nearly every time. The fact that he kinda held his own (although I don’t have any advanced stats to back this up and even then the sample size would be too small), he is limited at best as a defender. Granted, he has… Read more »
I agree with this comment 100%.
And again if it’s for the right piece like a PG13 or even Gordon Hayward then I’ll go for it. But please don’t trade KLove for Melo or Cousins.
who the hell needs draft picks? How will draft picks help the Cavs win another finals? I mean they’re nice, but if you’re going to trade one of the best power forwards in the NBA for draft picks, then you’re trading a sure thing for a gamble. And who are these “legit two way players” you’re going to get? Kevin Love is a legit two way player. He averaged 11 boards, 2.2 steals, a block and only 1 turnover in the finals.
Talk radio out here is in full ‘trade season’ & ‘draft season’ fervor (or is that fever? :)
And all the rumors that go with it.
How to fix GSW’s cap issues without gutting the bench? Offer Klay T to the Celtics and the Lakers for their #1. How much more would need to be in that deal?
Very unlikely that Curry, Klay, Iguodala, Durant and Dray will be parted for next two years.
Good. Unlike the warriros, LeBron enjoys being challenged.
Nice one Cols lol
Lebron would love to have a player of caliber Durant join him. He said that so. His aim is to win championship now or Wiggins might have still been Cav. He is in that win championship now mode for like 8 years or may be he would have never left Cavs.
https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/875460348190498816
Dude’s a complete douche.
Does this moron not remember KG-Pierce-Allen in Boston? Green’s IQ is lacking.
He’s not the sharpest.
Thanks Gordon, I had this same argument with my brother who is a Celtics fan. He sent me a video of some reporter saying that LeBron was the one who began buildings superteams and I used exactly the same response that you posted here. I even found some you tube videos talking about the worst super teams of all time which included some versions of the lakers teams from early 2000’s.
AGREE 100% OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING MIKE P.—–AGREE WE MISSED ON THE GREAK FREAK—BUT THANK GOD WE WERE ABLE TO UNLOAD THE GUMMY BEAR IN WHAT REALLY TURNS OUT TO BE A STRAIGHT UP TRADE- LOVE FOR WIGGINS –WE WIN THAT TRADE !!!
Haha. Yep. What a great trade!!!!!!!
Man the Cavs have a good offense. The Warriors had a great defense and the Cavs shot like crap the first 3 games yet still had a 115 offensive rating for the Finals.
Good offense breaks good defenses.
But they have to get better defensively. The Warriors wasn’t getting all those easy dunks that they were getting against the Cavs in previous series against the Spurs, Jazz and Blazers.
The Cavs defense was really bad against their pick n roll actions in game 5.
Yeah because their pick and roll used to be Curry/Green or Curry/Iggy or Curry/Barnes and now it’s Curry/Durant.
Sucks.
Elite is a bit much Nate. Love played well, but PG gives us a guy who can match up on KD and allow LeBron to go back to roaming and guarding Green.
I’m not saying we can’t win with Love because from what we saw i games 3-5 we absolutely can, just that PG gives us a better shot vs them.
21 boards and three blocks in game 1,but ok.
I was somewhat surprised to see this stat in the Cleveland PD in a Chris Fedor column. The Cavs starters outscored the Warriors starters 482-463, and the Warriors bench outscored the Cavs bench 145-92. The Cavs need to upgrade at least two bench spots somehow, and Lue must integrate them into an effective non-Lebron lineup. I think Nate said, and I agree, that Lue not figuring out how to play effectively without LeBron over 100 games is hard to fathom.
Most of that gap is because Zaza starts but Iggy plays way way more. But yeah, the Cavs needed more bench output. Livingston and West were the only guys besides Iggy who gave them good minutes. We didn’t get enough from Korver and RJ and Shump to offset it.
Exactly. Korver & one other bench player hitting a decent percentage changes everything. It’s not just the immediate difference in totals, but that the next play isn’t off a rebound, and how the opposition then guards our players, and so on….agh! I honestly don’t think Cavs were too far away from actually beating these guys…but I guess that’s history. Make or miss, right?
If Korver hits the wide open late 3 in Game 3, we’re back in Cleveland for a Game 6.
482-463 may be by product of Cavs starters playing more minutes than Warriors.
I’m not exactly sold on the Love for PG either. I think Love is kind of under-rated. But I also think right now Paul George might be the second best player in the East. The Pacers almost gave the Cavs a tougher time than Toronto or Boston, despite the Cavs laying an egg to Boston in one game. To match up with the Warriors we kind of need the Greek Freak, who we could’ve drafted, but instead we drafted a care bear with asthma.
I hope the Cavs are able to keep Cedi Osman. I’ve been looking forward to watching him play with the team. Who knows how he’ll adjust? From that clip he kind of reminds me of Manu, but you could probably make that argument for a lot of Euros. I’m assuming Cedi (Cheri) will play in the summer league, and hope he dominates.
*Chedi* not Cheri……..
The Big 3 is fine. We need a n effective replacement for Shump, Deron . Add a rim protector.
Keep the rest.
Why should we trade Kev? You guys are underestinating the value of the guy just because he isnt putting up consistent 23ppg or playing elite defense. He opens up tons of lanes which is primarily needed in a Lebron/Kyrie attack. That alone is worth it. For Paul George? the guy is a very good defensive player but he regressed this year on the defensive end. I HIGHLY doubt he would settle for being 3rd in this group. You want a guy who can defend multiple positions and be a consistently great threat on offense? Danny Green. He does basically what… Read more »
Interesting thought on Grabbing Green. But I don’t think he’s gone. I actually think they’re a team that could trade for Melo. Parker, Dedmon, and Slomo for Melo is a deal Phil would have to consider and Melo might accept.
I dont think they’ll trade Parker. He’s a Spur for life.
Green is wishful thinking i admit. But he’s the only guy I really think would fit seamlessly here. He’s the perfect complimentary player.
Why would the Knicks want Parker? The dude isn’t going to be around for long.
The dude did play elite defense in the finals. He averaged 3 steals, a block, and over 10 boards a game in his first four games. The thought that Kev can’t be a great defender is a fallacy
Elite is reaching Nate.
About the PG13 for KLove trade, what I meant is that if the Cavs are considering trading for KLove it better be for a really nice player like PG13 who is proven and has playoffs experience and not Cousins who is a proven tool or Melo who will make the Cavs defense even worst than it already is. And again it’s just my honest opinion. I believe that the Cavs can keep the same roster but to have a chance against the Warriors they will have to improve their defense dramatically. I believe the Cavs have too many shooters who… Read more »
And yet you want to move the guy who played the best defense of anyone in the finals?
KLove is not that great defensively and again I would trade KLove but just for the right guy.
This is why I think Love for Paul George (which Indiana probably would not do) would be great for the Cavs. https://theringer.com/cavaliers-warriors-game-6-finals-b8f7cd1a711f When Tyronn Lue said he wanted the Cavs to play more like the Warriors before the NBA Finals started, fans thought he was crazy. When the Warriors ran the Cavs out of the gym in the first two games of the series, the fans were calling for a return to caveman ball. Instead, a concussion kept Kevin Love out of Game 3 and allowed Lue to double down, and the Cavs began morphing into a funhouse version of… Read more »
That was written after game 6 last year, which was peak “Dump Kevin!” time, and I don’t think it holds up. Love did fine this year against Draymond and whoever. He wasn’t responsible for any more than his share of defensive breakdowns.
Kyrie was probably the No. 1 culprit defensively, between bad floor balance and bad shots/turnovers leading to GS transition opportunities.
And as for last year, Love played well in game 1, dealt with a concussion for several games, then made big contributions in game 7.
To be clear. I’m not blaming Love and thought the dude was excellent this series. I do think that PG is a better fit against this warriors team. I also think it probably makes us worse off against basically everyone else.
IMO. That’s worth the tradeoff because LeBron can get us to turn finals.
I don’t see how Paul George will hurt us as much as you say Cols(against everyone but GS). PG is an offensive threat who could go for 35+ any single game. His defense is top notch too. Yeah, you give up some rebounds but hopefully TT and Tavares can negate that.
Rebounds and post ups. And awesome outlet passes.
Also. I doubt Tavares is the extra big. They’ll find someone better I hope.
PG – KD – Advantage Warriors but George can go at him
LBJ – Green – Lebron will destroy Green easily
TT-Zaza – TT will win this match up too, although it would be nice if Tristan develops a 15-20 jumpshot
Jr – Klay – Klay would win this one easily
Kyrie-Steph – this would be a coin toss
Having PG would be huge because he has the length and mobility to handle and Lebron can roam on defense which always help the Cavs a lot.
Yes.
Zaza may not even be back. It would be more like TT-Green, LBJ-Iguodala.
About curry-kyrie match up, Kyrie scored more than Curry but Curry averaged twice as many assists, rebounds, steals, deflections and hockey assists.
Such a troll
why, can’t in take the facts ? I very much enjoyed Kyrie’s dazzling moves but it is a fact that he does little else.
Kyrie made Curry look like a high schooler in the 2016 Finals. Absolutely owned him. Curry had a great Finals this year, but very easy to do when you have 11 other stars on your team, including Durant, and you don’t even need to be the guy.
+10000
And FYI, Indiana would do that deal in a heartbeat. Two years of Love instead of one year of a guy who is for sure going to walk next year? This would be a beyond colossally stupid trade for the Cavs.
It would be nice if we could just add PG, sort of like the Warriors just added KD.
I think we should just sign Kawhi Leonard.
If PG was a free agent and he and LeBron were willing to take massive pay cuts, yeah, it could happen ;)
Cedi looks like a young James Jones.
I think he’ll be a big improvement over Shump. He’ll need some seasoning, but should be able to contribute 10-15 solid minutes a night.
I think he’s too skinny to contribute right away. It’ll take a year of LeBron to get him into NBA shape.
No. No he doesn’t. They don’t have similar games at all.
I FEEL BAD FOR KLOVE—EVERY SUMMER / TRADE DEADLINE HIS NAME IS SURROUNDED WITH RUMORS —-GUESS THAT IS PART OF THE BUSINESS–AGREED IF HE IS TRADED WE HAVE TO GET EQUAL / OR POSSIBLY MORE VALUE IN RETURN—DO NOT TRADE FOR 2ND RATE PLAYERS !!!
The whole idea of Love for George is laughable. It’s ridiculous and dumb.
Is it laughable because it won’t happen or is it laughable because you don’t think it helps the Cavs vs the insufferable smug squad (while making them worse probably against all other teams), or is it laughable because of the salaries and re-signing George?
George is a great player, but he would be replacing J.R. more than Love. We’re short bigs as it is. We need someone to do what Love does. Trading Love creates a bigger hole, even if George is a great player, which he is.
Yeah, I totally get that. I think it makes us worse against every team but the smug squad. But the question is are you willing to live with that if it makes us better in the finals which I think it does.
When the Warriors play their death lineup they play Draymond at center and the still play great defense, rebound the ball well and are extremely versatile on offense.
The having bigs theory died like 5 years ago. The new NBA is about small ball.
Thanks for calling us dumb. That’s nice.
Not calling you dumb, just your idea.
And I know a dumb idea when I see one. I’ve had my fair share.
Your comments on KLove have been less than smart, How’s that?
The thing is if you trade Love for PG…who plays PF? Do LeBron and PG split time at the four? I don’t think LeBron wants to be banging in the post for a whole season and PG was less than enthused with the PF experiment in Indy. If that trade happens, then another move would have to be made.
I’d keep the core together, but if you could get George for Love I think you do it. It would make us worse against almost everyone but the Warriors, but that’s the risk you’d have to take. Leb can get us through the eastern conference.
Just don’t trade Love for role players. That boston trash trade for Love would be terrible.
Over on FTS they were suggesting trying to get a wing like MKG for someone like Thompson, sign a able-bodied center and then run with Love at center a lot. I’m OK with that too.
Paul George on paper seems the ideal addition. However, I think he wants to be the man. Will he accept sidekick status or even third banana standing in the hiarchy just like KLove did?
Yeah. I doubt it happens.
When they battled the Heat from 2012 to 2014 he played great team ball and played great defensively and offensively against the Heat. He has mentioned multiple times that he would love the chance to play for a contender so I believe he will adjust and anyways he will only need to be the second option for about 3 more years maybe.
Nice article. Agree on the change in accepting losses from 2016. Agree that Shump basically sucks and doesn’t give us more than Delly did, probably less. Agree that Osman should just be kept. This roster can beat the Warriors: TT, Love, LBJ, J.R., KI, Cedi, Korver, R.J., Tavares (or similar back up big), and Felder (or similar back up PG). Delly would have been better for us than Shump, imho, but oh well. If Felder can learn enough D to survive for 8 minutes a night, great. If Tavares can give 12 minutes a night, great. If we could trade… Read more »
By the way Marc Spears from ESPN keeps reporting that the Cavs are looking to trade KLove for Cousins?. If I was going to trade KLove it has to be for PG13.
Cousins is a douche!
Yeah. Love for PG13 is about the only Love trade I’ll accept.
Cousins would be a better fit than Love. Cousins would neutralize Zaza or any other big and is quick enough to defend their lineups. Plus, he’d kill them inside for which they’d have no answer. I’d take Cousins over PG-13.
I respect your opinion but I disagree, who would Cousins guard if the Warriors play their death lineup? Will he rotate to shooters? He is too slow, even slower than Love.
Yes he is a special talent but to me he is pretty similar to KLove on both sides of the court . And also it is known that Cousins is not a coachable so me personally I wouldn’t trade Love for Cousins.
One thing that I really believe the Cavs need to address if they want to prolong LBJ’s career is to try to find an excellent defensive swingman that can take the defensive responsibility off from him. There are a ton of excellent forwards in the league that Lebron has to defend night in and night out and yes he still has the will do it but to be honest all the greats like Kobe who had Ron Artest and MJ who had Pippen and Rodman had that great defender asset that took that responsibility away from them. I think is… Read more »
Yeah. That would be nice.
Have you read this? ESPN senior NBA writer Marc Spears told Murph & Mac Wednesday that he thinks the Cavs could trade Kevin Love for another All-Star-level player to give them a better chance to beat the Warriors in a potential fourth Finals meeting. “I could see them doing something major and making a big change,” Spears said. “If you want to mess with the Warriors, I’d try to dangle Kevin Love to the Pelicans to get (DeMarcus) Cousins. Not that Cousins has always played great against the Warriors, but if you put him in that environment…I think he re-signs… Read more »
Anthony Davis would be the ultimate addition rather than Cousins. No way Love would be enough to get him though.
What makes this almost impossible is the fact that KLove is your other forward which is not a defensive stud by any means. That’s why I wouldn’t mind trading KLove for PG13, too many positives would come out of this trade for the Cavs. LeBron can teach PG13 how to become a top 5 player in the league and the Cavs would have an excellent duo for years to come. I really like KLove but I believe that this is an opportunity to get a top 5 talent added that could again prolong James career and help the Cavs stay… Read more »
Dude was the Cavs best defensive player in the finals. Not sure what more you wanted him to do.
?? when switched to Curry he got beaten of the dribble continuously. He is a decent defender but not great.
You way underestimate how good Love was in the playoffs
Agree. Shump is the dispensable piece that we can actually move. Tristan isn’t going anywhere. Despite his subpar finals Games 1-3, he was a beast all year. More importantly, he’s a LBJ BFF and Klutch client. The big question is Love. I think he’s crucial to this team and I don’t want to see him go, BUT… …I did start thinking during the Finals that maybe his back problems are worse than the team has let on. Would go a long way to explaining why his minutes have always been so strange — heavy usage in the first quarter then… Read more »
I think Griff is a cold-hearted deal-making killer. I don’t think he cares about Clutch, and he ultimately is the decision maker. I also don’t think LBJ will stand in the way of trading a player that failed to perform in the Finals, BFF or no. He is also somewhat calculating, and has to be considering the challenge they face next year. You are right to be suspect on Love though. I’ve a fair amount of experience in sports injuries, particularly lower limb (which incidentally leads me to think there were times Kyrie’s sub-par performances this year were linked to… Read more »
GETTING SOME YOUNG ATHLETIC YOUTH ( WITH TALENT TO DEVELOP —-AKA; SEE THE SPURS ) IS PRIMARY AFTER WE SIGN GRIFF—–T.T. IS THE TALK OF SOME TRADE RUMORS —-HE HAS BEEN IN THE LEAGUE TOO LONG NOT TO HAVE DEVELOPED SOME GO TO POST MOVES ( TAVERES AND NORELAND HAVE BETTER POST MOVES ——-OTHER THAN FINISHING OFF A LOB )—- AND A SHORT CORNER / ELBOW JUMP SHOT ——DO YOUR THING WITH KARDASHIAN AT NIGHT/ WORK ON YOUR GAME DURING THE DAY !!
Have to agree NOMAD. Grabbing boards is one thing, but against the best teams you have to have a scoring move in your arsenal. Cavs have some thinking to do here.
Seeing the Warriors get quality (but not perfect) minutes out of McCaw during the Finals made me think about Cedi. During both the regular and post seasons, the Cavs desperately needed some youth that they could depend on. Even if LeBron prefers vets, maybe Cedi has the skill set and positional flexibility to find a chink in that LeGrumpiness. I’d love to see three 23-and-under guys in the regular season rotation next year. And I’m with you on Shump. Even guys who aren’t three-point shooters need to be able to shoot from SOMEWHERE. David West is money from the extended… Read more »
Robert! Have a great summer! Awesome to hear from you.
McCaw wasn’t good though. He shot 27% and 20% from three. He was worse than the most hated man at CtB, Shumpert. Plus the Cavs exploited him a lot on defense.
He is also a rookie.
Sure. But the warriors did not get quality minutes out of McCaw during the Finals. That’s all I’m saying. The bench guys who played well for the warriors were Iggy, Livingston, and West, all of whom are older vets.
The Cavs older vets did not similarly step up.
I moved to the US in 1994, so my connection to Cleveland sports starts after that year. With that in mind, the late 90’s Indians were my favorite team, specially the likes of Baerga and the Alomar bros (all Puertorican like myself.) I felt a connection to them on a personal level, even more so when hearing their hard spanish accents during interviews and realizing they had endured the same tribulations as myself, although, of course, they were rich ha. Losing then, before last year’s championship, was brutal. This year, not so much. The feeling is different if not less… Read more »
Did Igor Gonzalez played for the Indians too?
I also remember Candy Maldonado who if I’m not wrong played for the indians too.
Maldondo did. Juan Goznalez did for one year I think.
I also moved to the US in 1997 (for a residency at Cleveland Clinic) and also got caught up in Indians fever. Even though I left Cleveland 12 yrs ago our family still supports Cleveland sports (although the Browns are becoming a tougher sell).
Ditto. When moved to CLE, we’d meet people who would ask “so why are you here?”, and we would take a breath to answer and they would say “working at the Cleveland Clinic?”. It’s a big chunk of the town, no doubt. But I have to say, something about the town gets into your blood…we’ve been gone over 2 years now & I still feel part of the place.
Julio Franco was my childhood hero baseball player. I loved his crazy stance, the chants of Julio in the stands. I had all his baseball cards and even had his number shaved into my head for one little league year.
WOW A TRIP DPWN ” MEMORY ” LANE IS ALWAYS A GOOD EXERCISE DURING THE SUMMER DAYS —-WILL SHOW MY AGE WITH MY TRIBE HEROES OF THE DAY—–SUDDEN SAM MCDOWELL / DADDY WAGS -WAGNER / MAX ALVIS / JOHNNY ROMANNO / SONNY SIEBERT / STEVE HARGAN / LUIS TIANT / GARY ” DING-DONG ” BELL ——AND MY ALL TIME FAVORITE WHO I STILL HAVE A PICTURE WITH ( I WAS ABOUT 5 AT THE TIME ) IS JIMMY PIERSALL WHO JUST RECENTLY PASSED AWAY ——-THOSE WERE SOMEGREAT DAYS DOWN ATR THE PARK—ESPECIALLY ON ” BAT DAY ” WHEN THEY WOULD… Read more »