Link to the Present: Coach Scott fired
2013-04-18Looks like the rumors are now official. No need to say much here, as my take has been discussed a few times in the last week. Time to start seeking a new coach, hopefully one that imparts a defensive identity on the team and gets the young, individual talents to mesh into an unstoppable juggernaut.
Talk about it in the comments.
@ Kevin Hetrick
Agreed. SwIrving’s assessment of Brown vs Scott is pretty good. Although, I still think it won’t happen because they have their sights set on LeBron.
I’m not against bringing lebron back, just saying he’s not going to come back. Those are his best bud’s that he’s lighting up the NBA with and in his off time he’s kicking it on cool beaches with them and some of the most georgous women on the planet. He’s not leaving that unless Wade’s knee forces him to retire by next year.
Vesus – you need a breather. Go take a walk and get some fresh air. This is a mid 20 win team that never learned to play a lick of defense, something that is required to be a championship contender. You’re acting like they just sabotaged a 60 win team. Scott left this team nowhere near a playoff appearance, much less contending for a championship.
To answer your question Vesus, Because the team is no longer built to lose (anyone with a brain knows that now is the time to start pushing forward, and also knew that after last offseason, we weren’t trying to last year), because it will look good on their resume to take the team to the playoffs, because it will be easy to surpass previous production, and even if we miss the playoffs as long as we get 35 wins next year most people will be able to rationalize giving the coach another opportunity, because we are one of the few… Read more »
“I chuckle at people who are against bringing Lebron back, but support bringing Mike Brown back. Almost as if you prefer mediocrity/losing.”
Haha, now there is something that we can absolutely agree upon!!
I chuckle at people who are against bringing Lebron back, but support bringing Mike Brown back. Almost as if you prefer mediocrity/losing.
NOticed in the press conference Grant repeatedly said they wanted players to be given a chance to win especially on the defensive end. It was almost like he had some feedback from players before this. No defense was more of a demise to the CAVS than the multitude of injuries,
Here’s a trivia question: Has any city in the US ever seen three (or ALL) of its professional sports’ teams coaches/managers fired within 8 months, as Cleveland now has?
@ Ross
I don’t doubt the premise that we have a solid young nucleus in place and a fairly well-run organization. I think Chris Grant is one of the best GMs in the league. Hell, up until they fired Byron I thought this was the best-run organization in Cleveland sports.
That being said, this team does not attract top coaches. Never has, never will. Why would any worthwhile coach want to come here, when the last guy got fired for losing with a roster that was built to lose?
Cols, you still putting eggs in the lebron basket eh? Keep digging that hole my friend. Ain’t gonna happen. I’d like to see a coach with a better offensive repertoire than Mike Brown, Certainly, but if the Cavs are going to succeed they are going to have to get a hell of a lot better on defense. Bottom 5 for 3 years in a row is unacceptable. plus having two players who can create for themselves makes the offensive sophistication less important. Still important, don’t get me wrong, but less. AKA Bill, tell me exactly why Brown isn’t a better… Read more »
I am not advocating for Mike Brown as the replacement, but I agree with KyrieSwIrving’s take on him versus Byron.
@ Vesus
It’s not just about Cleveland. Believe it or not, the organization is viewed favorably around the league as being one of the well ran franchises of the league. Anyone, expert or not, can see what the Cavs are building and that the future payoff is near. Coaches want to coach a player like Kyrie Irving. Even Tristan Thompson, Andy Varejao, and Dion Waiters are talented guys that will draw quality coaching candidates.
The sky isn’t falling. Clevelanders have just been trained to expect the worst.
Interesting comment from Chris Grant’s conference:
GM Chris Grant: “Winning is a priority and getting to the playoffs is a priority.”
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/cleveland_cavaliers#ixzz2QqTsoXur
Does this mean that he believes a different coach can take the team as is to the playoffs? Or is he ready to bring in a quality FA?
“I bet it will be Mike Brown. I don’t want that, but he’s the best guy out there that we might be able to get, right? Really, there’s not a lot of good options.”
lol, you are just trolling at this point, aka Bill.
I like Mike Brown but I don’t think it makes any sense to bring him back already.
@ Ross
Of course there are capable coaches out there. And they are all just lined up to come to Cleveland. Guess I have nothing to worry about.
I bet it will be Mike Brown. I don’t want that, but he’s the best guy out there that we might be able to get, right? Really, there’s not a lot of good options.
Once again, please no Mike Brown. Please no no no no no no.
Offensive minded head coach would play to Irving and Waiters strengths. As for Byron, I really don’t care if he was kept or let go. Seems like a replaceable guy.
@ Ross
I really can’t believe they would do that. Especially, if they are trying to bring back LeBron. No way he comes back if Mike Brown is here. Also, I noticed that Lawrence Frank was let go today. I don’t think he got a fair shot. Two seasons, and the first was shortened due to the lockout. But it happens, fair or not.
Well if we were playing mike brown Defense I’m pretty sure Kyrie and Dion could continue their ISO fest they had under scott to the tune of a playoff birth. Seriously, Scott didn’t do a damn thing in his time here, and had the worst coaching record in Cavs History of anyone who lasted a full season. Mike brown is probably a better coach, he definitely has a better resume, and the best parts of it are far more recent than Scott’s. I don’t want to see mike brown back very much either, but I’d rather have his All Defense,… Read more »
@ Vesus. Chill out, dude. there are lots of ignorant NBA fans and Cavs fans out there. Dan Gilbert wrote his infamous letter and the Cavs lost LeBron so apparently that makes him an awful NBA owner. so many people have no clue. Gilbert is one of the best owners in the league and is building another contender in Cleveland. i’m thrilled to have him as the owner of the Cavs compared to the vast majority of professional sports owners. he cares about winning and he’s not afraid to spend $ in a small market to do it. and can… Read more »
@ $ aka bill We aren’t starting the rebuild again. We are changing head coaches. All of the “progress” we have made to this point is not lost. We still have a great young core to build around, 4 more draft picks this year, future salary cap flexibility, etc. This isn’t the NFL where when you fire your head coach, everything changes, and you clean house and get rid of a lot of your players to bring in new guys that “fit the new system.” A new coach is going to come in here and hit the ground running with… Read more »
Can’t wait to see a Mike Brown-coached offense without Lebron bailing everyone out every possession. Should be just enough of a train wreck to make us clamor for Byron again.
Or maybe we will just keep digging and bring back Paul Silas? John Lucas? How about Randy Wittman? Any other retreads I haven’t thought of?
My entire opposition to this move is based on the fact that there are no legitimate, realistic candidates to replace Byron Scott that haven’t been fired this season. And now we’re talking about bringing Mike Brown back?? Are you effing kidding me?
Just let Lebron coach the team because they clearly aren’t going anywhere unless he comes back, not with a childish, impatient owner like Gilbert.
The way I see it, one of two things happened. Scott was losing on purpose as directed by the front office and this was a natural part of the plan, and the front office knew it would be extremely difficult for a coach with such a lousy recent history to inspire confidence in his players so would need replaced around this point of the rebuild, or This was not part of the plan, and Coach Scott really has become just one of the worst in game coaches ever, and the plan needed to be changed. For some reason, neither of… Read more »
I don’t think it was a lack of patience as Grover13 said. Firing Mike Brown after 5 games is a lack of patience. He had three full years. The death blow for me is that the players seems to tune him out. It happened in New Jersey and in New Orleans. Maybe that’s his MO. His former players seem to look back on their time with him fondly years later. He’ll get another job and the Cavs will get another coach. They didn’t just fire the Paul Brown of basketball.
@ grover ” I didn’t need the team to make the playoffs this year to stick with Scott. I didn’t even need that many more wins. But what I did need was some measure of improvement. ” Totally agree. In fact, I think Dan Gilbert said something similar before the season: ” The Cavs were never supposed to win this season, but Gilbert told the Beacon Journal during training camp that this was an important year to see progress. “I don’t even know what the definition of that is,” Gilbert said in October. “But you’ll know it when you see… Read more »
I do hope the Cavs hire someone before the draft. There’s plenty of time to do that, but it wouldn’t be the first time a team drafted w/o a coach. Which is a bad idea IMO. The blog is pretty polarized over this. Not surprising at all. I think zeek nailed it when he said that there wasn’t much choice. Not only was he losing the locker room, but he really seemed at a loss on how to improve the defense. As a matter of fact, I think he might have said just that is a post game conference once.… Read more »
Seriously Rich, I believe in Gilbert cause of his Pockets (Something this move actually backs up, as he’s on the hook to pay Byron $4 million to coach or not) and Grant because of his decision making. Good decision making isn’t trying to make your previous decisions look smart, its trying to make the most of the situation you find yourself in currently with all the information currently available. Keeping Byron for the sake of making the fans think you’re previous decision was right is all ego, and not smart. And who’s to say they didn’t know this was the… Read more »
$ aka Bill – ” This shows that the front office is no longer willing to exercise patience. The front office apparently believes the rebuild is not working and it’s time to change paths.” I don’t think three years of virtually no improvement in record equates to “no patience”. I think that’s a pretty significant body of work. What did Scott in, and the reason I agree with the firing, has been noted many times on this board….while there has been individual player development, three years in the same system has produced no discnerable offensive or defensive identity. None. I… Read more »
I don’t expect the next coach to “win right away”. I do expect next years team to be better and win more games. I do expect the next coach to mold the team into something that looks like a team. The Cavs that ended the year did not look like a team. They looked like a pick-up squad. They did not play team defense, they did not play team offense. I admire Byron Scott very much as a man, and I am grateful that he came to Cleveland and took on the job in our darkest hour. But 3 years… Read more »
Can we stop with the conspiracy theory where mgmt is telling Byron to lose and holding back on roster moves to tank. Although the roster was not the most desirable and most definitely below average when the injuries were piling up there is still no excuse for the continued boneheaded/stubborn rotations, 3rd quarter laziness, 20+ lead losses, non-timeouts, lack of visible passion, etc. You all act like Dan and Chris told him to use bad coaching tactics and that next year he would get some green light to turn on his good coaching stuff. I’ve said this before but the… Read more »
It seems a lot of commenters wanted to stick with Scott purely to stick with the re-build. But that doesn’t make sense. For example, what if Kyrie was Austin Rivers. Do you stick with him purely because he was initially “part of the plan?” Of course not! You think, “well, we need to keep our eyes open for a PG, b/c it is still an area of need.” I compare missing on Scott the coach to missing on a draft pick. It just wasn’t working, so you look to move on. The plan remains, but you have to revise that… Read more »
The exasperation comes from this: There was a belief in the Front Office. That they knew what they were doing. That we could put faith in them. This firing of Scott does damage to that belief. That’s the problem. I no longer wholeheartedly trust what Chris Grant is doing nor do I trust Gilbert as the owner. That trust has been shaken, and with it, my belief this team is going to turn it around soon. People need to understand what this move does. It makes the next coaches job a real mountain. He’s going to be expected to win,… Read more »
Also rebuilding teams seem to have “starter coaches” as most have starter wives. Silas was Lebron’s starter coach for his development. Was Scott hired to keep Lebron, or did they somewhat suspect that he was leaving (due to the complete lack of communication) and that Scott would be the ideal starter coach for a rebuilding team? We shall see.
In the end I have trust in Dan Gilbert’s pocketbook and faith in Grant’s basketball decision making. It’s time to win. It’s time for progress. The nurturing is over.
I’ve been against firing Scott but if he was on thin ice than they might as well have gotten it out of the way. I don’t think he’s a bad coach as much as he was in a bad situation. The turnover of the roster was pretty extreme with only two players remaining from his first season to his third. If the mandate was a natural tank job, than it’s hard to blame him that the record was so bad. What defensive rating to you expect when four of your five leaders in minutes played can’t rent a car? We… Read more »
I remember not that long ago 60 win seasons were expected, playoff appearances were not only expected but a given, and trips to the finals and gunning for the ever so elusive title for Cleveland was on our finger tips yearly. It wasn’t that long ago that we almost went undefeated at home, and our jersey sold the most! Then the man who grew up going to Cavs games, grew up as our neighbor, played the same courts we played, expected us to cheer him in HS, expected us to love him as our own. The man who knew our… Read more »
I really like Scott, too. I wanted to see what he would do with the team next year. Prior to the Miami game, I feel like he was taking the team in a good direction that would have kept him his job. But I strongly feel that the team gave up on him, particularly after that heartbreaking loss to Miami in Cleveland. They didn’t follow his leadership after that game. The last 15 games were horrible to watch.
I can’t believe what I found on hoopshype:
Jason Lloyd @JasonLloydABJ about 51 minutes ago
Among replacements for BScott: Don’t rule out Mike Brown. Confirmed through 3 sources he is moving back to CLE area for kids/school. #Cavs
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/cleveland_cavaliers#ixzz2Qq9ogMQA
Tom Withers @twithersAP
We will speak with #Cavs GM Chris Grant at 2:30. My guess is he will not divulge any names of candidates. Betcha Mike Brown’s name comes up
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/cleveland_cavaliers#ixzz2Qq9hqMXs
This can’t be for real.
$ aka Bill – ” This shows that the front office is no longer willing to exercise patience. The front office apparently believes the rebuild is not working and it’s time to change paths. I really thought that keeping the boat steady and coming back next season would lead us on the right track. I really believed the system was about to click into place.Now, it seems we’re starting over again.” This is the NBA, where teams change coaches constantly. The front office has witnessed multiple seasons of Byron Scott. If they weren’t impressed with what they saw, why would… Read more »
Love this move. Scott had showed that while he and his staff could develop players on an individual level, they really had no idea what they were doing when it came to coaching a team rather than individuals.
Vesus, Obviously short term winning was not a priority, and scotts lack of delivery on that had nothing to do with his firing. Its about moving forward. Scott did nothing extraordinary in the development of players, or team system, or ability to show a deep connection and control of his team, to warrant risking the players continuing to tune him out. Sure, he might not have been given a fair opportunity to do any of those things, but the guy is not a Hall Of Fame coach, and you don’t risk losing the locker room to give a guy with… Read more »
You guys think that maybe this was the Cavs plan all along? Let Byron tank the team for 3 years to build up high draft picks, fire him, then start fresh with a new coach loaded with a team of four top 4 picks? Did the front office really expect Byron, or any coach, to gain the players confidence after having 2-3 seasons of horrible records? Perhaps, after Lebron left, Byron was just a pawn to fill the coach’s seat for 3 years. I mean, they never even gave him an actual NBA-quality bench until half way through the 3rd… Read more »
A few stats for everyone freaking out about the firing to take solace in.
2008-2009 Hornets under Scott plus his 9 games form 09-10 season – 52-39
2010 Hornets under Monty Williams – 46-36 (little to no drop off, and didn’t have the players quitting on him from the start of the season like in 09 when Scott started 3-6)
2003-2004 Nets Under Scott – 22-20
2003-2004 Nets Under Lawrence Frank -25-13
See, pretty easily replaced by not-so-great coaches.
Does anyone actually believe that Scott was instructed to make short-term winning a priority? I sure don’t think that conversation ever took place. Grant will never come out and say so, but they wanted another lottery pick.
AKA bill, most brand new coaches take over terribly talented teams, thats a big reason why the old coach got fired. If our roster is currently a terribly talented team, we have problems Byron wasn’t going to fix. If its not a terribly talented team, then you have to look at a subset of teams, a subset I’m sure that new coaches performed a lot better than your hypothesized 10%. Also saying this is showing signs of impatience can be taken two ways. I agree it is showing signs of impatience. But when you want to win a championship, and… Read more »
I want Nate McMillan as Coach. It’s a young team, but it’s also got good pieces. And the space to recruit 1 or 2 glue guys to make it work. If we really think Kyrie is going to continue to be an All Star PG (Including more effort on Defence), and that TT and Waiters and our high lottery pick are going to be 3 Above average starters in the NBA, then with a good emphasis on team D and getting the right 4-5 guys to fill out a (set) rotation of 10 players, this team should be a 4-6… Read more »
@ KyrieSwIrving
Thibodeau plays Deng and Noah FAR too many minutes. I’m sure it is just coincidence that each guy has dealt with nagging injuries for basically every week of Thibodeau’s tenure in Chicago. Noah just came out and said that he won’t be healthy for the playoffs.
If you want a coach who will play his guys too many minutes so they are hurt when the playoffs come around, I guess Thibs is your guy.
I hope you guys are right. I hope I’m just overreacting. I’ve been really optimistic and hopeful since the start of the first rebuild 3 years ago. It just seems like this is a message that things aren’t working and I hate to think of the Cavs going through a decade of losing seasons.
Seriously, anybody having any coaching targets? Anything to get excited about?
$ (aka Bill),
Nate is scouring the world for potential replacements to write about.
With regards to a first-time coach versus an experienced head coach; half of this year’s playoff teams are fronted by coaches that are with their only franchise. This includes the 1st and 2nd seeds in the West and 1st and 3rd seeds in the East. Six of the last seven NBA Coach of the Year award winners were on their first head-coaching gig.
Agree almost totally with $(aka Bill)’s previous comment. I thought Chris Grant was this beacon of patience for the long term success of the franchise. This seems almost like a panic move based on pressure from Gilbert. I don’t see any contingency plan.
Vesus, there is usually a lack of replacement when you fire a coach, and Byron last displayed “Knowing How to win” roughly a decade ago. A Thibideau like coach would be a fine coach, he’s done more with the talent at his disposal than just about anyone else would have, taking a roster missing its League MVP to the 5 seed. And who has he run into the ground? Rose Tore an ACL, thats one instance, hardly any sort of trend, and its wasn’t Thibideau’s fault Rose is the only above average ball handler on the roster, thus required (and… Read more »
Cols- Good point about passing on the defense-first coach. It won’t work when you’ve got Kyrie and Dion as your guards. They are made to run the floor, not play lock-down defense. Yes, defense is important and needs to improve but our game with Kyrie and Dion needs to be up-tempo. They can’t lock-down guards like Mike Conley and Tony Allen do for the Griz. Kyrie and Dion need to run.
I would like an established coach. No assistant please. And definitely not one like the Chicago guy. Since the entire league thinks a defensive coach is the way to go it’d be nice to do the opposite and get someone who will run. Showtime with Irving and Waiters would be awesome.
Kevin- Yeah, this firing really took the wind out of my sails. This shows that the front office is no longer willing to exercise patience. The front office apparently believes the rebuild is not working and it’s time to change paths. I really thought that keeping the boat steady and coming back next season would lead us on the right track. I really believed the system was about to click into place.Now, it seems we’re starting over again. I don’t see any coach out there who is as good as Scott. Is anyone excited about any of these coaches? I… Read more »
aka bill, you are so damn melodramatic. The front office I’m sure had this contingency in place, should we implode down the stretch or it appear that Byron was losing the faith of the locker room. Did OKC firing Skyle’s imply that they were too impatient to wait for true contention? No. If all we wanted was the playoffs they would have stuck with Byron, saved the money from hiring a new coach since they’ll be paying byron anyways, signed a carl laundry or the like, and boom, playoffs in the bag next year even with only mediocre roster health… Read more »
KyrieSwirving… how often does an assistant coach perform well his first time as a head coach? How many brand new coaches lead their teams to deep playoff runs? Maybe 10% of the time? I’d much rather have a guy that’s done it before and ironed out the wrinkles. The last thing we need is an experiment. Young players, first-time GM, and a first-time coach sounds like a recipe for disaster. At least we knew Scott was capable of winning and knew how to take a team to a deep playoff run. If Phil Jackson isn’t packing his bags for Cleveland,… Read more »
My biggest problem with firing Byron is the timing and the apparent lack of a quality replacement. If Chris Grant hires a great new coach, I have no more concerns….just don’t see that guy on the horizon.
An “up and coming” assistant is not what this team needs…they need an established coach that knows how to win…and not a guy like Thibodeau who grinds his players into the ground just to win a few extra regular season games.
I agree with zeek. When the Memphis reserves came in, the team seemed reborn.
I think this had to be done. Scott deserves a medal for having to endure the 10-11 season o’ misery. I think his style, his character, is much better suited as an NBA assistant helping to develop role players into something more, or as a college head coach. Personally, I think he’d work better as a role model/individual mentor than as someone who needs to constantly adapt on the fly.
Hope he lands on his feet somewhere and wins a few games.
yeah, but Scott knew there was a pretty decent chance this would be his fate. Obviously with Lebron’s departure we would be in complete rebuild mode. I agree, Scott’s not entirely to blame, but at the same time he did nothing stellar and currently there certainly seems to be a stink about him from all this losing. And Scott’s not exactly a Hall of Fame coach so everyone worried about finding someone on his level is a bit absurd. I’d take an up and coming assistant over gambling that Scott can remember how to coach to win after taking 3… Read more »
I must be in the minority on SVG. I don’t know if he’s the right coach at this stage for the Cavs. Problems and drama seem to follow him around at every stop…some his own doing with the media.
After he got to the Finals, I used to joke with a Orlando Magic fan friend of mine that SVG was following the exact route Mike Brown did with the Cavs. Both hired on unexpectedly, got to coach an all-time great, got to the finals, COTY’d, couldn’t repeat success, star screwed them, then fired.
It’d be great to get an offensive minded coach who will let Kyrie, Dion, and (soon) Shabazz out and running.
I also think it’s unfair to say Kyrie tuned Byron out. He seemed more frustrated with the losing and being held out for weeks with minor injuries. Hell, he deserves plenty of blame for not trying harder on defense.
Can’t help but feel hopeless after this. Who do they get that’s better or at least as good as Byron? Can we get Mike Brown back? He’s probably the best realistic target, although I’d take Byron over Brown.
I think this speaks volumes about where the front office is. It seems their patience has run dry. Is it time we start trading away our young players and picks for veterans? Is it time to start settling for playoff appearances rather than aiming for real championship contenders? The firing of Byron indicates to me that this time is not far off.
$ (aka Bill),
Were you hopeful yesterday, but now you’re hopeless? Most things are the same, except their non-elite coach is going to be replaced. We’ll see if your prophesy of a complete over-turning is correct, but until then, I don’t think your glass-half-full needs to turn half-empty.
I don’t understand the thought that Scott is irreplaceable.
$ (aka Bill), Sometimes I think Scott’s track record is overstated. Jason Kidd was a back-to-back-to-back All-NBA player before Scott. Little credit goes to Scott there. With Kidd, drafting the ROY in Kenyon Martin, and health to players that were injured the previous season, the Nets plowed through two weak slates of Eastern Conference teams. Soon thereafter, that team apparently quit on Scott, allowing Lawrence Frank to set an NBA-record for most consecutive wins to start a coaching career. In NOH, after Chris Paul came on-board, the Hornets made a leap. How much credit is Scott’s and how much was… Read more »
@ Zeek
Tough to say Scott “knew the score” coming in. Lebron hadn’t announced his “decision” yet.
If the team had not collapsed down the stretch (with poor defense in giving up big 2nd half leads) of the final 20 games, and Kyrie had not seemed totally off of Scott’s program, he’d probably be coming back next year with a chance to see what he can do with a legit team.
Scott knew the score coming in 3 years ago, so he probably had to know this was coming.
Eh
Sucks for Scott. I don’t think he was the problem or that there even was a problem with this up coming team. But if we can get one of the Gundy’s then I’m on board.
Please no Mike Brown though.
WEll damn My brain just wouldn’t accept what Kevin just wrote. I really thought they would wait another week.
Even if you don’t agree with this, it was the only possible choice. When you have this much losing over a coach’s tenure (even tough none of that was Scott’s fault given the fact that injuries and little talent were the basic problem most of the time), it sort of becomes a cultural problem. And the fact is Kyrie seemed to have tuned out Scott entirely by the 2nd half of this year. Is any of this on Scott? No. It was a complete rebuild from the ground up with lottery picks and young players. This roster was not built… Read more »
@ AdamFL
I think there were expectations. Not necessarily in terms of W-L, but improvement and consistently on both ends of the floor. Unfortunately, that hasn’t been there. That, plus the fact that he might have been losing the players, was enough for Gilbert and Grant to make the move.
The biggest nagging question the organization has with Scott is “DEFENSE” At no time in his tenure did this improve. There isn’t any evidence that it will. WIll the next season continue to have the same problems with defense that will prevent Cavs from wins.? Most likely yes. How do they reconcile that Big Elephant? So if they lean replacing him; then WHO? Is that WHO going to improve CAvs chances to win or will WHo make it so much worse though I don’t know how worse than right now. ? I do know the CAV organization will take their… Read more »
I don’t agree with this, but it makes me sad. I thought I would want to write about it, but I really just want to ignore it
Don’t really agree with this. It was clear all season that we were not trying all that hard to win (no FA signings, major trades, playing Chris Quinn, etc, etc). Now at the end of the season we act like there was some sort of expectation? I thought Byron deserved a shot with all the pieces he needed in place. Not saying BS is Phil Jackson or anything but who do we hire that is better? SVG molded a young team into a contender in Orlando and I love him as a coach but just don’t see him coming to… Read more »