Congratulations! You Won the Lottery. Now Don’t Screw it Up.
2014-05-22Urban mythology is filled with the tales: people who won the lottery, and woke up three years later at the bottom of an empty swimming pool clutching a bottle of Jack next to a passed out former XFL cheerleader and a Tibetan Mastiff named Chodak, while the sounds of the flatbed truck cranking up the winch to repossess the Bentley echoed in the distance. “That guy had everything, and pissed it all away,” the documentary always says…
The Cavs don’t want to be the NBA version of that story. After winning their pick of the NBA prospects in the greatest draft since 2003, we Cavs fans, and I’m sure the front office, are euphoric. With this pick, two picks next year, and $40 million to spend, the Cavs have sooo many options. I don’t know about yours, but my head has been spinning for the last 24 hours — dazzled by the overwhelming number of possibilities. David Griffin has acknowledged all these possibilities, too. And to his credit, he’s been setting off smoke screens since the minute the pick was announced. I’ve heard that Parker, Embiid, and Wiggins are all at “the top of the Cavs list.” I’ve heard that the Cavs will look at more than just those players. I’ve heard that Griffin’s phone has been ringing with trade offers since the moment they got the pick, and that the Cavs “will be open minded.” But like someone who just won the Powerball, Cleveland needs to disconnect the phone for a day or two and figure out what’s really important.
Rules for Winning the Lottery:
- Don’t spend it all on things that lose their value the minute you get them. What I really mean here, is don’t trade for Kevin Love! Trading for KLove is like buying a Jag or an RV that can hold a Porsche inside of it, or any of these things. The moment you drive them off the lot they lose half their value. Why in God’s name, if you’re the Cavs, would you trade half your roster for a guy who will opt out after next season, and will be an unrestricted free agent. That’s what James Dolan did with Carmelo Anthony. If Griffin decides he wants Love, then he should do the smart thing and build a fantastic team and then lure Love as a free agent, because Love’s not
signing an extensionwaiving his opt-in. I bet the Knicks really wish they had Galinari and a first round draft pick this year — and that James Dolan drives a Jaguar. - Plan for the future. Or, if you’re the Cavs, you don’t want to just be good next year. You want to be good for the next ten years. You have a chance to get a transcendent talent in this draft, and with over $40 million in cap room/voidable contracts, you can set a roster foundation for ten years. Don’t make stupid decisions to chase wins for one or two years. This means you can’t sign free agents that will give you a good year or two and then hang around on your cap like the that bloated XFL
strippercheerleader. (And yes, I’m probably talking about Luol Deng). It also means: don’t draft the best player as of now. Draft the guy who will have the best career. - Keep a close, trusted circle of friends. Don’t go get a bunch of new friends you think are better than the ones you have. The friends you have from elementary school are probably more trustworthy than the tattooed Parrotheads you met on the Jimmy Buffet cruise. I’m talking about Tristan Thompson here. Tristan has gotten a lot of derision on this blog and from the media in general over his “fit” on the Cavs. But let’s not forget what Tristan has done well. He has been a positive attitude player and a tireless worker from the minute he joined the squad. He completely reshaped his game and added a major facet each offseason. His hand switch and his free throw shooting improvement are unprecedented, and in many ways, he was like a rookie all over again, last year. If the Cavs had drafted a junior power forward who had a rookie year like Tristan just had, we’d all be ecstatic. Yes, Tristan doesn’t always fit, but there’s absolutely no reason to trade him. Let him play out next year. He doesn’t have to start. He can be a bench big. Let him learn how to play defense (again), and let him become a restricted free agent. The Cavs don’t have to make a decision till next year. Tristan will still be a very solid individual and a guy you want on the team, next season. But I’m betting he’s a late bloomer, and will be a really good player in three years. Plus, he’s not a Parrothead.
- Don’t make any radical changes. Don’t quit your job. Don’t buy a home in the Pyranees. Don’t open an artisanal fondu restaurant. Don’t get rid of Anderson Varejao. Seriously, try finding a better center than Andy by scouring the free agents and guys who might be available via trade. You can’t do it. Gortat might be the only one, and he’s probably re-signing. (And I wouldn’t want LARRY SANDERS within the Cuyahoga County limits, let alone on this team). While this might be an argument for drafting Embiid, it’s also an acknowledgement that this is a really bad free agent class for centers. Statistically, Andy is still a great and he is notorious for taking rookies — especially international rookies — under his wing just like Z did with him. The Cavs need guys like Andy on their team both on the court and off. Yes he’s injury prone, but the Cavs can mitigate this by doing something they’ve refused to do for the last three seasons: managing his minutes. Andy shouldn’t play on the back end of back-to-backs. He shouldn’t be playing the fourth time in five nights, etc. 25 minutes a game should be his max. If he can show that he’s healthy to start the season Cleveland should even consider extending him.
- Assemble a team of top notch advisers. Don’t advertise so that any huckster who can do a Google search can come along and con you into investing into a string of Doggy Day Spas. Don’t listen to investing advice from failed frozen yogurt mogul, Uncle Ned. Go find out who the best advisers are and hire them to advise you. Then, listen to them. And I’m talking about Dan Gilbert here. Let Griffin assemble a team and listen to him, Dan. Go get a coach who has been around and who has coached and/or played with great players. Hire guys who’ve been successful in this role. And by this I mean don’t hire Alvin Gentry. Would you hire a financial adviser who lost money 53% of the time? A financial adviser who only made money three out of 12 years? Then why would you hire an NBA coach who has only had three winning seasons in 12? Dubious equivalencies aside, Cleveland needs to get a top notch coach more than ever, now. George Karl has the pedigree, reportedly wants to coach in Cleveland, and has put together winning teams everywhere he’s been. If Karl can get the 2013 Nuggets squad to a 57 win record, I can’t imagine what he could do with this Cavs team. And pick up Mark Price as your top assistant, George, so he can coach when you retire.
- Figure out all your options and get as much information as possible before you make any decisions. Check out your state’s tax laws. Research blind trusts. Decide on the tax implications of an annuity or a lump sum payment. Figure out how to protect yourself from gold-diggers you will invariably meet at the Sandusky Yacht club… And go through all these draft picks and scenarios with a fine tooth comb. Which means you don’t draft Embiid without having your own doctors evaluate him at the Cleveland Clinic. Before you make a decision, talk to every player’s coaches, trainers, ex girlfriends… Ask him about his workout habits. Find out if he snores, has trouble breathing, and likes buffets (Chris Grant skipped these steps last year). And don’t decide on a guy without figuring out if there’s a way you can trade down and still get him. (Go get Ray Farmer in your war room for this). I should not need to say these things. They would seem to be obvious for a competent NBA front office, but given that the Cavs front office staff drove around in a clown car for all of last summer, I’d rather be safe than sorry.
- Don’t lose yourself. From Robert Pagliarini of Huffington Post, “It’s hard to keep things exactly the same when you get a check for millions of dollars, but at the same time, you don’t want to lose the aspects of your life you now cherish. Step outside the craziness of the situation for a moment and make a list of Who and What you love about your life that you don’t want to change.” The Cavs need to do this. What works about the Cavs? What do we and the Cavs front office want to keep? IMO, the thing that works best is that they’ve consistently tried to draft high character individuals who work hard and don’t do stupid stuff off the court. That’s why last summer was such a mess. The Cavs deviated from the plan of accumulating guys with professional attitudes and high character, and decided to go after Andrew Bynum. I hope that David Griffin and Dan Gilbert remember this lesson and the platitudes about integrity that Dan has espoused over the last four years.
- Don’t get married (without a pre-nup). Belinda, the ex-XFL
groupiecheerleader you met on the Parrothead cruise? That’s not going to end well. If you do decide to marry her, sign a pre-nup. Give yourself an “out.” I’m not sure there’s an NBA equivalent to this. I guess it would be: think really long and hard before you spend a lot of money on a questionable signing. Go look at Joe Dumars’ and Ernie Grunfeld’s careers as GMs for a list of what not to do. Don’t overpay mediocre players. Don’t give a lot of money and years to guys with a history of injury problems (ahem, Gilbert Arenas). If you do decide to take the plunge, try a partially guaranteed final year, and make sure you can medically insure the contract (I’m talking about you, James Dolan). Or you could just move in together for a while. (Get a vasectomy first). - Figure out what you need. Figure out what you want. The most important tip for maximizing a windfall? Figure out how much money you need to live on, and then figure out what you really want. This will tell you how much you can spend and let you prioritize some luxuries. This way you can avoid stupid stuff like private jets, Juggalo gatherings, and centers who believe in the benefits of medicinal and recreational marijuana use. (all are huge money siphons and liabilities waiting to happen). The Cavs need to figure out what they need: shot-blocking, three-point shooting, and perimeter defense . Then they need to figure out what they want. For me, athleticism, leadership, and work ethic are be the NBA equivalents of basketball/tennis courts, a home studio, and a cabin in Alaska. Adding a “fully functioning mech suit,” just to have it is like adding yet another ball dominant scorer.
- Don’t out-think yourself. Trust your gut. (Unless you’re Chris Grant or George Costanza). My gut reaction for lottery winnings? Set up a college fund for my kids. That’s probably a good one.What was your gut reaction when you found out the Cavs won the lottery? I trust the wisdom of crowds. A plurality of people have a good amount of common sense. Their gut reaction according to this Akron Beacon Journal poll? Draft Andrew Wiggins. I trust that. Of course, I see that 18% of people are James Dolan, too, so maybe not.
The metaphor has kind of played itself out here. This isn’t actually like one of us schmucks winning the lottery. This is a business decision buy guys who’ve already won the lottery of life several times over. But the principles are still prudent: educate yourself, don’t do anything rash, and stay true to who you are. I’m an admitted Wiggins fan, but I know that I don’t know everything. I’ll be doing my research on who the Cavs should take and what they should do in free agency over the next few weeks. I hope the Cavs give it the same kind of scrutiny and unlock secrets of these players that I couldn’t begin to unravel. And then I hope they sleep on it and trust their gut and draft well. Meanwhile, I’ll be dreaming about 44 inch verticals, unlimited three point range, silky post moves, and one of these.
KJ:
Do not put words in my mouth. I never went “ape shite” over Noel. I liked him a lot. I went “ape shite” over Oladipo. When I had to sit through Bennett, I pined over Noel (who was a better shotblocker/defensive player than Embiid), but there was no ape fecal matter in my brain in the run up to last year’s draft.
Also, I appreciate that you like Embiid, but just because you type some of your opinions in ALL CAPS, does not make those opinions REALITY.
Vesus its definitely not a league that guards win championships though either. Not 3 elite guards with some passable bigs. I can’t ever remember a time when that a Ship
Why would you draft Parker, when you literally have the same player already on the roster (Bennett)? Their height, weight, and wingspans are almost identical. Yes, Parker’s a better version of that, is more skilled, and has a higher basketball IQ, but we’ve already seen the limitations of that body type. Melo overcame being a tweener with elite athleticism. Parker doesn’t have that.
Kj is we don’t trade it has to Embiid
Kj is we don’t trade it has to Embiid
Parker reminds me a lot of Luol Deng. I’m not really sure how his career will end up, but I’m a Wiggins guy all day.
Also, the NBA just isn’t a Center-dominated league anymore. Maybe guys like Drummond and Embiid will begin to change this, but I just prefer Wiggins who I see as more of a sure thing and a perfect fit with this roster.
Even if Embiid’s health isn’t a long-term issue, I think I’d still prefer Wiggins. This kid is going to be something special; a 20pt scorer and perennial DPOY candidate.
“It isn’t a centers league anymore”. That is because for some reason there haven’t been any good ones for a while. If Hakeem was playing now on a good team, they might win 70 games. Of course getting rid of Jack would be a plus. That is why he will be worth negative in the proposed trade. If you can package all the guys that can’t play in a one year rental for KL, this is one thing. But you are talking about the #1 pick in a great year, TT, and DW. That trade is insane. If it is… Read more »
What happens when Parker tries to guard athletic 3’s? If our core already includes subpar defenders in Irving, Bennett, and Waiters thats a mess to add Parker. Remember basketball is essentially positionless; Parker would be someone you would have to hide on weak offensive players where Wiggins could grow into a guy that could guard 1’s through 3’s (and probably most 4’s). I love that versatility. I also think Wiggins could come in and focus on defense, cutting, and spot up shooting with Dion and Kyrie handling the playmaking.
Sandusky Yacht Club shout out! The options this summer are endless. The lottery really did hit reset on the Bennett pick if he doesn’t work out. Missing in the lottery hurts, but you can be out from under the contract in two years. The Grizzlies missed on Thabett, traded Love, misused Mayo and they were still in the Western Conference Finals. Teams are gonna whiff. Hopefully we didn’t or at least we already got it out of the way. Completely on board with the wish list of a perimeter defender, rim protector and outside shooting. A healthy Embiid or Wiggins… Read more »
I just can’t accept the risk of taking a C with a history of back injury when there are other guys with just as much potential without the history. I just don’t like that risk, not when we’re *this* close.
Also, that lineup actually seems pretty solid. Obviously there’s a hole at C, but with Andy and Hawes on board we can make do.
I’d actually be completely open to sending Zeller plus two of next year’s first round picks for a top C, too. Maybe we can get Marc Gasol for that, if the Grizz are ready to start over. I’d be fine with a rental + bird rights at that price.
But “the three” are not the only options for a marksman SF. And Embiid definitely is not a tragic story waiting to happen. The other stuff you said was good.
@Underdog
Sure, but there isn’t one in the top three in this draft. Parker made 1.7% more of his 3P shots than Wiggins, but Wiggins took 0.6 more per game. I’d say they’re about equal.
So of the three, it seems Wiggins is tied for best shooter and passes Parker in most other areas.
And Embiid is a tragic story waiting to happen.
Josh VS: Good points on ball dominance, but a lights out shooter would be the better complement for Dion & Kyrie. But there’s nothing wrong with trading one of them for an offensive facilitator/playmaker if you took Wiggins.
If the Cavs take Wiggins, the first rounders taken in recent years produce a lineup of:
C Zeller
PF Bennett/Thompson
SF Wiggins
SG Waiters / Karasev
PG Irving
Gordon…just watch him. He oozes potential. He’s not a finished product, but already he’s got the skills and athleticism to play the three without an issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE0wOOk07ko
I agree, was just clarifying.
I’m not blown away by Wiggins. If you look at the numbers, what did he do that was stellar? I take him over Parker because of the defense, but if all three are healthy, I take Embiid.
I didn’t watch Wiggins much this season. I heard his jumper needs work. Not sure I take a SG who doesn’t have an elite jump shot over a 7 footer who could be as dominant as anyone in the league.
Yes, Gordon, but back injuries tend to be just as degenerative.
Wasn’t it Oden’s knee that ruined his career?
If Embiid’s back is cleared, I really hope he’s the pick. A 7 footer who can block shots, rebound, and could become a force on offense and be a top 5 player in the entire NBA is something that comes around only so often.
Wiggins is a very close second for me because of his elite defense. If Embiid’s back is a legitimate concern, you take Wiggins.
NO TO PARKER. Dough boy who can’t play defense does not = championship.
@Underdog If by “ball dominant” you mean Wiggins will shoot a fair bit…then yes. But he isn’t a ball handler at all. He won’t ever need to bring the ball up, and he won’t ever need to worry about dribbling around to create his own shot. He’s solid on defense already and doesn’t need the ball in his hands for a long time to get a good shot. He can shoot over people with his ridiculous vertical, and has a quick release and great shot mechanics. He’s also quite capable of beating a closeout in one step without a ton… Read more »
I wonder which of the three Coach Karl or Popovic would pick?
@KJ
Embiid’s back issue is a serious concern. You mentioned Drummond but not Oden or Sullinger. What if it derails his career and Wiggins ends up being the player we think he can be? Get ready for some very dark years if that happens.
You say Ibaka is Embiid’s floor. Iguodala is Wiggins’ floor. In a case like that, I prefer the guy who doesn’t come into the draft with significant injury concerns.
David G said he would leave no stone unturned in his search for a coach but the only interview we have heard about is for his old friend from Phoenix? Karl & Price Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Without doubt, Embiid’s back will be fully checked out before taking him. If it’s doubtful Wiggins would likely be the pick. Parker, however, is truly a Carmelo type scorer . . . a good passer . . . and a mature, tough, competitive player with a high basketball IQ. He will have the most impact of the three in year 1. So don’t count him out. Someone compared Wiggins to Vince Carter – a sensational athlete/player and near Hall of Famer – that never really won anything. I don’t see Wiggins making anybody else on the team better. And he’ll… Read more »
No, KJ, his floor is a dude that plays one season then breaks and never comes back. In a normal draft, he’s a risk worth taking. But when you have another TWO options that are just as likely to become superstars and neither has the injury history…you can pass on the high risk/high reward and just go with high reward.
Procedural question for the board: what are the legalities around when the Cavs can offer- or Kyrie can sign- a max extention? I’m currently settled into the throught process of this: if the Cavs get Kyrie to sign a max extention, the choice almost HAS to be Embiid (health status pending). If the Cavs & Kyrie commit together, the need for a rim protector to cover Kyrie’s defensive flaws trumps all else. If Kyrie passes on the max extention- you take either Wiggins or Parker to build around, and trade Kyrie to fill in the rest. So….is it possible for… Read more »
I’m not a Love fan unless its at the right price. The si.com suggested trade would be fine with me.
Anderson Varejao, Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, Tristan Thompson and a 2016 first-round pick (top-10 protected)
for
Kevin Love, J.J. Barea and Alexey Shved
Kyrie, Wiggins, Love, is a core I can watch for years. I can see the outlet passes now…
Still people not getting it. Embiid is a once-a-decade prospect. His FLOOR, Josh, is Ibaka. His ceiling is David Robinson/Hakeem. I find it astonishing that people, like Nate, were going ape-shite last year that we should draft a guy who I worried would miss all year (which he did) but now you wanna pass on a guy who is 10x the prospect Noel was for a “back problem” that Drummond also had when he came out??! I mean, get real here! Wiggins does NOT have the highest upside. Embiid does. Go look at Durant’s frosh numbers then look at Wiggins’… Read more »
@raoul – part of my fears are based on this year. we added Jack, Clark, Bynum, drafted Bennet and Karasev. Everyone kept saying, “We have to be so much better. Look how much we added.” But what we didn’t add was any maturity/leadeership. We we actually took away from overall fit/culture with Bynum. I think its easy to think that if we just keep adding young guys, wining will sort itself out. But the last 3 years are pretty strong evidence that is not true. And there are a ton of historical examples of chronic lottery teams adding young players… Read more »
I think the only trade for Love that makes sense is we give up this year’s #1 and Love signs an extension before the deal. I don’t think Love agrees to this, given the likely cap increase next year.
I think former/present player comparisons are useless in most cases: If I want to make Embiid sound good I can refer to him as a more athletic, better free throw shooting Andre Drummond; if I want to make him look bad I say he’s the next Greg Oden. My point is that the players have fairly similar skill sets, but the connotation of Oden makes Embiid a bust when attaching a positive trait to Drummond makes Embiid look like he’ll be unstoppable. There’s similarities in Wiggins game to Iggy, TMac, and Pual George, but the only similarity between he and… Read more »
I’m all for trading for Love if we can keep Krie, this year’s pick and at least one of TT or Dion. Anything else can go.
Except Wiggins is already 6’8″ and has a chance to keep growing…
Kevin Love is a top 10 player and one of Irving’s best friends. Wiggins looks like a smaller version of Paul George to me. Paul George at 6’10 is a top 10 guy. But is Paul George at 6’6 a top ten guy? Or is he just Andre Iguadola, a very good player but not top 25. Parker looks like Melo to me and on a different team would be my choice but not on this one. We already have too many players that are ball stoppers. Embliid if healthy is the pick, he will be great for us in… Read more »
You guys are exaggerating the cost to get Love in my opinion. Is the 1 pick TT and Jack half the roster in your minds? Seriously, losing Jack is a bonus. We will still have almost 30 million in cap space if we don’t pick up anyone’s options after pulling that trade. No one is beating that offer. Magic, Philly, and Milwaukee aren’t ready to compete. And no one else has assets to trade that would still leave them with an All-star PG, Dion, Anthony Bennett who still has some value, and 30 million in cap space. After getting Love… Read more »
Great article. I agree with basically everything. I am seriously considering camping outside Griffin’s home and office day and night with a huge sign that says: “Don’t Get Cute”. The “trust your instincts” move for me is Wiggins. I wanted that kid as soon as I saw his first high school highlights video. Lightning quick and with world beating hops+size. It isn’t a centers league anymore. Go get the wing we need. Let the kids grow up together. Push Bennett to be the starter, and rotate TT between backup center and PF. Push the ball harder and the spacing will… Read more »
Great breakdown, love the analogy. Nailed every aspect of this. I only disagree with the final conclusion – ignore your gut. Your gut says to get married to the XFL gal and buy the armored hummer that doubles as a submarine. Acquire all the information you can, chart the projected outcomes, rely on good advisors, and then use your head. Embiid didn’t play basketball in 2011. That wasn’t very long ago. And he’s not that raw. He’s more skilled than 90% of seven foot nba prospects. He runs like a deer. He shoots 60% from the FT line already. He’s… Read more »
Drafting anyone other than Wiggins or Embiid would be dumb. So dumb. Trading the pick would be dumb.
*whose, not who’s.
Out of HS Wiggins was getting LeBron level hype. Not saying that means he’s going to be the next LeBron or anything but one year at college (where he had one really bad game) shouldn’t drop his stock below anyone else’s.
I’m convinced with his athletic ability and shot mechanics and instincts, he’ll be a superstar. He could be Kevin Durant like with his length and quickness.
As someone else said, his FLOOR is Andre Iguodala. You don’t pass on that for a guy who’s floor is Greg Oden.
I am firmly in the Embiid camp, assuming his back checks out. Dude is going to be so good.
Surely, Wiggins will play the three. But he won’t be the floor spacing shooter three we’re looking for. He’ll be similar in style to the quasi-athletic Alonzo Gee. (Only comparing styles – doesn’t shoot threes, loses the dribble, not a passer or creator.)
Loved the article. Hated what Griffin said right after the lottery about trying to get radically better much quicker, and having a sense of urgency. I think he’s going to do something really short-sighted and ultimately stupid to please Kyrie in the short term–and trade everything for a 1 year Love rental, kinda like the so many desperate and urgent moves Cavs made to “please” LeBron that actually showed him out the door.
I’m baffled as to why Wiggins can’t play the three when Jarrett Jack and Dion Waiters spent large portions of the season at small forward last year.
Scott: When LeBron decides where to play next, being Gilbert owned will not be in his top 100 issues.
HotSauce: The future is more than next year. If you get a lot of top players, they will either learn to fit, or you can make good trades. Where do you get your projection of 30-35 wins? With a decent coach and development from AB, they will win a lot more than that without any draft pick.
Wiggins got dominated defensively by Marcus Smart when they played, the average NBA player is going to be athletic as hell like Smart is. I just don’t see any situation where Wiggins who doesn’t have a super consistent stroke can start at the 3 when he’s still really undersized strength wise. His career arc to me seem similar to Paul George, a tall skinny 2 who then adds strength and then becomes a 3.
nate –you are a man of great wisdom—like your thoughts about LOVE ( DON’T SELL THE FARM FOR JUST 1 YR )—-think long term—- KARL AND PRICE ( ESPECIALLY FOR US OLDER NOSTALGIC FANS ) WOULD BE HUGE AND VERY INTELLIGENT DECISION—–great basketball minds and teachers and great connect with and for the city/ cavs
Thoughtful piece, Nate. My big issues is with point 2 – “plan for the future.” What does that mean? It is sort of an empty platitude. Building a team is really hard, and it takes A LOT more than accumulating young talent. We all know that well. So what exactly is the plan for this team if we keep the pick and take Wiggins? I assume we would need to give big minutes to KI, DW, Wiggins, Bennet, and/or Thompson, right? Is that the plan? Do we think that team really will grow into mature winners in 1, 2, 3… Read more »
I was talking to a Warriors fan friend the other day (I live in SF) and made the Iggy comp myself. I think he’s basically Iggy with a better shot and 2″ of added height. Can’t go wrong with that.
Wiggns is the pick. Anything else leaves me sorely disappointed.
Wiggins is ready to start in the NBA. And he is begging to start at the 3 for this team. Immediate defensive upgrade, future superstar. Everybody here seemed to love Iguodala, that is Wiggins’ floor.
“Even with a pre-nup, the shrapnel of crazy can still ruin your whole year.”
Love it.
Great article. I, too, love the George Karl / Mark Price idea. Karl wins everywhere he goes – but he only has a couple of years left.
@Rodney mac – adding Love to the Cavs roster wouldn’t even get them through to the second round. Comparing Embiid to Zeller is silly. It’s true that Embiid won’t transform the Cavs in his rookie season, but he’s a much better talent than Zeller – he’s faster and more explosive, his arms are much longer, he’s younger and he has only been playing organized basketball for a very few years. Finally, Lebron is not coming back to Cleveland next season. It’s possible, though unlikely that he might return after next season (assuming the Heat do not win another title). Do… Read more »
Josh VS: I love the Bynum pre-nup analogy. And just like real life, if you walk down the aisle with a loon, even with a pre-nup, the shrapnel of crazy can still ruin your whole year.
Agree with Nate.
let’s add alvin gentry to the list of things i’m actively rooting against (agree with nate on):
-no gentry
-no huge trade for love
-no jabari parker
why is it easier to find things that i do not want to happen?
i can still be swayed between the kansas kids, wiggins and embiid, as i hope the cavs are keeping an open mind in their evaluation.
(and, wow, is it tempting to revisit the grant drafts and play woulda/coulda/shoulda with some of the 7-footers they passed on)
@Nate – I wish Dan Gilbert and the Cavs from office would read this. I don’t want George Karl as our head coach (too much baggage) but Gentry and Del Negro would be far worse. Why are we (the fans) seemingly so much more level-headed than the owner and front office? When I hear David Griffin spout phrases like “radically improve” and “all options” it scares the crap out of me, because I can definitely see the Cavs going all-in on a Love rental despite common sense. I wouldn’t trade our #1 pick this year for Love even if he… Read more »
Also then cavs are the only team that can trade for him andnjot hamstring themselves.
I really think that the pick and Thompson along with Jack will be enough to get Love. Losing Jack is a bonus. Thompson is at very best an average PF. Most likely he’ll never be that. So to me its Love for #1 pick. The reason you do it is because he is a sure thing. He also gives you a chance to go deep into the playoffs. He also gives you a chance at luring LBJ and creating a dynasty.
Kevin Love also wants to play for a winner or someone who can win. He’s not going to the Lakers or Boston or any of those big market teams because they all suck. Phoenix, Cleveland, Washington, Charlotte, Toronto are really his only options if he feels like demanding a trade and getting out early while picking up his option.
Nate, you nailed it, everything you said is %110 correct . George Carl and Price combo will sell ton of tickets + gives Cavs coaches that are respected in Ctown and been successful . TT reminds me of John hot Rod , steady and dependable. When I find out about the lottery and Cavs pick it just made my day. LBJ is watching this closely, let’s face it , Cheat is at the end of its run. It has aging stars that they want to get paid. Miami is not gonna mortgage their future for ever and LBJ knows this… Read more »
I don’t want to be a douche or nothing but I’m seeing on the Cavs reddit and other sites that Wiggins or Embiid are basically going to solve all of our problems but I’d like to see an article that tempers expectations a bit. Wiggins isn’t anymore ready to contribute than Jeremy Lamb is, and Embiid is not really much bigger than Zeller was coming into the league. Neither of those guys is ready to play heavy minutes, much less start in the NBA. Even though those guys are my top two for the Cavs, people need to calm down… Read more »
good stuff. NO No NO to Kevin Love. If you think adding Love would bring the Cavs to the promised land, wait another year and get him in FA. What’s that? You don’t think he’d come to Cleveland on his own cause he doesn’t want to play in Cleveland? Then why in the hell would you want to trade the bank, the farm and the lovable dog for a dude that doesn’t want to be here? B/c then you’d have nothing.
Wiggins
Great post. I agree with it all except the Sanders bits. I think he can be turned around by a high character team/coach. I feel like the bucks want him gone and we could get him on the cheap trade wise if it’s a draft day thing by just saying look we’re gonna be jerks and draft whoever you want, so draft our man second and send us the player we want.
Also, awesome article Nate. Oh, and the thing with the prenup was something Grant did RIGHT last year with the way they worked the Bynum contract. That’s the ultimate prenup analogy to me. Even though Bynum sucked he still was valuable because of his contract.
What about something more reasonable for a rental (with possible extension) of Love? Like, what about sending next year’s first (top 3 protected, just in case), the Memphis pick, and TT for him?
Also, is there any way we can incentivize him to pick up his player option? It seems unlikely since a max contract will earn him more and he’ll definitely get that, but I wonder if there’s a way.
It is great. Love the article, and the numbering system. These are your ten commandments Mr. Griffin and Mr. Gilbert. 1-3 and 1-7.
Trade Thompson
Draft Wiggins
Sign LeBron
Not sure what’s a better redemption story: LeBron coming back to Cleveland, or Cols714 coming back to C:TB.
This is great. I’m talking myself into Embiid more and more to be honest.
Nate – you just killed it, man. I’m framing this – it’s going up in my office, and my man cave, and my wife’s bathroom. (just in case I ever go in there).
love it, nate. as much as we’d like to see klove on the team, it can’t happen by trading the pick and half the roster, you’re absolutely right.
great list. particularly liked the numbering system.
after trading the house for love, i’d put drafting parker as the thing that would most disappoint me.