Recap Game 4: Raptors 105, Cavs 99 (Or, Wasting the Comeback)
2016-05-24The Cavs let the Raptors bully them for two straight quarters. They entered halftime down 16 points and were just 3-22 from beyond the arc. Kyle Lowry had 15 points and hit three 3s in the second quarter alone.
Yet, the Cavs managed to comeback in the third quarter. Kyrie Irving went off for 12 and hit two 3s to help Cleveland pull within nine. They started the final frame ultra hot, dropping their first ten shots to get a two point lead.
Cleveland then went just 1-10, taking seven 3s, in the final four minutes of the game. With 22 seconds left to play J.R. Smith, got switched onto Lowry. The Raptors were up just four at that point. Instead of getting into his defensive stance, Smith let Lowry blow by him, which put the Raptors up by six. That sealed the game.
The Cavs mounted a comeback. That’s a fact, but they used all their energy just to get back into in this game. They had no energy left to finish off the Raptors when they needed to.
Toronto showed up to play and made the entire evening a battle. DeMar DeRozan had 32 points on 14-23 shooting. Kyle Lowry had 35 points on 14-20 shooting to go with five rebounds and five assists.
LeBron James led the Cavs with 29 points, six assists. and nine rebounds. Irving had 26 points and six boards.
The first quarter opened up with both teams pushing the pace. Lowry scored the first points off a mid-range jumper. The Raptors then raced out to an 11-5 lead, despite the Cavs getting open shots. Cleveland was 1-6 from deep and even had two offensive boards. After Lowry penetrated into the paint and hit Bismack Biyombo for an oop, Lue called a timeout with 7:29 to go.
The Cavs steadied themselves after the break. Rather than playing fast, they moved the ball with purpose. Irving drove and found the King cutting baseline for a violent oop. Irving then got a cutting layup, receiving the ball from Love in the paint. A little later in the quarter Kyrie drove into the paint, forced Biyombo to leave his feet, and then hit James for an uncontested layup.
The Cavs played LeBron on DeMar, but LeBron refused to fight through screens to stay on him. DeMar scored six points, but he was getting open for mid-range jumpers whenever he wanted to. He could attack whenever he wanted to, since LeBron refused to stay on him.
Kevin Love missed three straight 3-pointers in the final four minutes and the Cavs went into the second quarter down, 27-24.
Cleveland really fell apart in the second quarter. Sensing something bad must be coming, Lue left LeBron in the game, despite him getting a very short rest in the first. He got to share the court with Matthew Dellavedova, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, and Tristan Thompson. James asserted his dominance right away walking into a 3-pointer, which he bricked. The next play James Johnson waltzed to the rim uninhibited. Delly attempted to keep the energy up, forcing a jump ball with Johnson and drawing a charge on Johnson. Those two plays were the highlight of the quarter.
The Cavs played terrible defense. Shumpert was on Lowry for much of the time, and he kept getting caught on screens. Lowry hit one of his threes that way. On another one, Shumpert didn’t come up on him enough, and he just drilled it in from five feet behind the arc. Lowry had 15 points in the quarter.
Smith got burned by DeRozan at the end of the quarter so badly I knocked my water cup over in a fit of disgust. DeRozan ran off a screen set on the baseline and acted like he was heading to the corner for a 3-pointer. He reversed course and J.R. flew past him, as he cutback for an easy layup.
Kevin Love also got faked out by Lowry. Lowry had the ball at the top the of the key and looked to his right. Love cheated over several feet and his man, Patrick Patterson, cut to the hoop for the automatic basket. And, as if playing awful defense wasn’t enough, the King decided he was a jump shooter because Toronto kept giving him open long 2s. Just one of James’ seven shots came at the rim. Thankfully, he hit three of his four mid-range jumpers. James also got blocked at the rim by Biyombo on an oop. Bismack got called for the foul. The Cavs went into halftime down big, 57-41.
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The third quarter started with DeRozan hitting a floater over TT. Lowry then missed a jumper, even though Irving left him wide open after getting stuck to a screen. Irving made up for it though. He went on one of his mini “I’m unstoppable” runs. After nailing a mid-range shot off a screen, he dribbled into a three-pointer. Then he launched a corner 3-ball the next time down the floor after getting the ball rocketed to him from Smith. To cap his onslaught, Irving dribbled into the paint and hit Smith for a 3-pointer, which brought the Cavs within seven.
Tyronn Lue also looked to get Kevin Love going after Irving’s 11-2 run. It didn’t work out too well. Love blew an easy bunny rolling for James, and he got murdered by Biyombo at the rim when he tried to dribble in and be tough. He managed just five points on six shots.
DeMar and Lowry were again excellent for the Raptors. Each time their names appeared in my notes for the quarter, the words blow by or pointless Cavalier switch were nearby. The Cavs entered the final frame down by a manageable amount, 78-69.
The Cavs unleashed their secret weapon in the fourth quarter, the scrubs using the Delly-James pick and roll after LeBron has surveyed the court from the elbow. It’s a device as precise as anything NASA has ever dreamed of. RJ, who was 4-4 in the quarter, started the action by taking his man off the dribble for a reverse layup.
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Then Delly found Frye two times in a row for 3s. One time was just a pass and another time was a drive and kick. Scoring eight unanswered brought the Cavs within one. The Cavs would make their next seven shots, including a Delly-James oop, a James power drive to the rim, a James to RJ “I’m not gonna jump for this oop” oop, and a Delly floater off a James’ screen. After James hit Jefferson cutting to the rim for their tenth make in a row and a two point lead with 4:53 left, the Cavs couldn’t buy a shot.
Up until this point, Cleveland’s defense had been near perfect. Whenever the Raptors got the ball above the three line, they were trapping instantly. The Cavs made Lowry and DeRozan give up the ball. They also sucked up any Toronto miss. In the final minutes this changed. The Cavs were gassed and forgot about the little things.
With 2:46 left, Lowry whacked the King’s arm at the top of the arc and got a steal. It should have been called a foul. He ran it down and the King fouled him. Lowry hit one of the free throws to put the Raptors up four. With 1:37 to go, the Cavs forced DeMar into a terrible fade away shot where he was falling out of bounds at the baseline. No one boxed out and Patrick Patterson grabbed the miss. DeMar then scored with a floater to put the Raptors up 103-99. The next play J.R. Smith decided to try to shoot over Biyombo instead of driving past him – it was blocked. With 22 seconds left, Lowry blew by Smith to seal the game, 105-99. Rough finish by J.R.
Gripes
- The Cavs took too many 3-pointers again. They were 13-41, 3-22 in the first half and 10-19 in the second half. When the 3-ball isn’t dropping the solution isn’t to keep taking it. It’s to get into the paint and get easy layups.
- I understand that Toronto was packing the paint; however, there are these nifty things called back door cuts. If you have a ball handler get into the paint and draw defenders to him, no one is watching the baseline. A guy can execute a cut on the baseline and usually get an easy basket when teams are selling out to stop dribble drives.
- Tyronn Lue told LeBron to stay on DeMar tonight. He told Shumpert to stay on Lowry. These two defensive assignments were meant to stop DeMar and Lowry from going off. If that was the goal of the assignments, why did LeBron seem perfectly okay switching off of DeMar any time another player from the Raptors (not even a screener necessarily) crossed his path? And, why did Shumpert seem more than okay to play three feet off of Lowry most of the night? Lue needs to take control of his game plan and make sure it gets executed.
- Speaking of taking control, why didn’t Lue just bench Love before the fourth quarter. Love, again, was ineffective. He was 4-14 for ten points, and he had just seven rebounds. He was 2-7 from deep.
- Defense is mostly about effort. If a player gets caught on a screen, he should make an attempt to fight over it or at the very least to make contact with another player on the offense. He should also pay enough attention to know when a guy is going to attempt to drive, so he can maybe stay in front of him. The Cavs have forgotten this. I have never seen so many players get stuck to screens and fall for misdirection dribbles
- The Cavs need to post LeBron more. The Raptors were trying to send Bismack to him whenever he posted up. This created a mismatch somewhere else on the floor, and I trust LeBron to find that mismatch more times than not.
- Bismack continued his dominant play. He had 14 boards and three blocks.
- Lue should be playing Frye or Love at the five at all times when Biyombo is on the floor. It’s the smart thing to do because it pulls him away from the rim and makes it easier for guys to drive to the hole.
- LeBron played 45 minutes, and Irving played 38. No one else played more than 31. Lue might have burned those two out and the Cavs didn’t even get a win.
Hypes
- The Cavs actually made a comeback and played pretty great offensive basketball from the start of the third until midway through the fourth.
- The Delly, James, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson group was fantastic again. Delly knows how to run a pick and roll, and makes something productive out of it. Why didn’t Lue throw this group in when the starters started to drown in a sea of missed 3s? The first seven minutes of the fourth consisted almost entirely of the James-Delly pick and roll in some form.
- Cleveland found their 3-point stroke in the second half, so there is hope that the drought is over.
- The Cavs return home for game five on Wednesday.
If OKC can win the series, they will have defeated 2 teams with a combined 140 wins. Totaling amazing. Still, I would rather play OKC since I hate GS so much, and they would be done.
Agree, imagine if OKC can go to Oracle and end the Warriors season, that would be icing on the cake
That would be one of the most amazing and enjoyable occurrences in Earth’s history…
Close at Oracle and knock Curry’s mouthpiece out. That would really be epic
I agree and they are really taking care of business. They are playing extremely hard.
Amin ‘Big Talk’ El Hassan must be crying in his beer right now….but he’ll be back full of excuses
Yup. I hate that “Mr. Know it all” Like he is some stat genius
My Curry voodoo doll must really be working
The thunder are playing with a lot more energy. Maybe this is the result of going for the 73-9 record .
Bull crap, bull crap call for Bray
The thunder are playing at an incredible level right now. If they finally make it to the finals they will make the Cavs look silly.
I fear that as well – both their defense and offense looks way fluid
If Klay keeps this crap up, I’m going to charter a flight to OKC and run on the court and shiv his hammy
Let’s go Thunder! Let’s go!
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Did the Warriors just set an NBA record for most uncalled walks during a playoff possession?
There have been a few…
Put them away KD!! Come on!!!
OH THATS NOT A FOUL ON CURRY?!?!? THATS AN EFFING FOUL!!!!!
I agree.
Yeah, that’s no foul, guys….wtf…gonna be a dogfight 4th…
Love how the Thunder are playing Steph. Completely taking him out of the game.
Their defense on Curry is off the charts.
Verajao in to get some flops going
I think Andy cursed the Warriors lol
And freaking Dion with the 3
Wow, Adams with the throw down in traffic
Come on KD, stop playing like crap. Get your head in the game!!!
Westbrook the energizer bunny lol
So tired of Klay…sigh
Klay playing the part of Curry this quarter…
Klay to the rescue
OKC settling for too many jump shots
I truly, truly dislike Klay, aka ‘Big Smokey’ (wink wink)
Ooooh that Draymond “trip” looked a little more intentional than inadvertent flailing
https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/735295599726211076
Beat the crap out of them Thunder. lets go!!
Cavs better take care of business in the next 2. Also Lue better figure of a bit of Mozgov -he maybe needed against OKC
What do you think?
That’s getting ahead of the game, but I think Moz would likely play some against the Thunder, if that matchup happened, but not sure he can stay on the court…
Bray needs to psyche himself up for the 2nd half…probably needs to break Kerr’s jaw to pump himself up
Great half for OKC…GS has really looked rattled the last 3 halves
72 points in the first half…. Wow.
Can a 73 win team not make the Finals? Would be beyond stunning.
God, I love all these blocks at the rim….eat it, Dubs…and all this with OKC using their ‘small’ lineup…
GS incredibly sloppy with the ball again….I love it
Warriors actually shooting better than OKC, just that OKC have 10 more made free throws
OKC needs to end this quarter good and not let the Warriors back in it, They were up 12 in the first and let the Warriors get a run at the end. Lets see what they do now
Now I’m starting to feel bad for the Cavs lol.
We bashed them for not being able to perform like they should in a hostile atmosphere yesterday and the Warriors are doing worse today again in a similar stage.
Only difference is that we could afford to lose Game 4, but this is pretty much must win for GS
Still pretty clear we will have to up our game against OKC. They happen to be good at our weaknesses.
With Warriors, it aint over untill its over, they are to dangerous offensively to count them out. Ending the quarter good and also having a good third quarter for OKC is key
Warriors looking rattled again, and the golden boy struggling
The Thunder look like they want it more right now…
Also Curry is only shooting 1-10
Hard to believe how much Adams has turned it on these playoffs…he’s been good all year, but he’s been a man in the playoffs. He’s the center Durant and Westbrook need.
Did you just see that pass he threw?! Or should I say fastball
The Warriors half court defense is really good and that is why the thunder should try to look to run a lot.
For sure…also, the Thunder half court offense is pretty terrible at times…
Green stinking it up again….heartwarming to see…
Green probably gets away with yet another foul on Kanter to cause a turnover…what else is new…
Green is a solid player but a bit overrated if you ask me.
Not a great ending to the quarter for the Thunder….really need to take care of the ball…
That’s it, Bray….throw it away…
The thunder’s confidence is sky high right now.
And the Warriors shooters are struggling.
Dion picking up where he left off…and Adams gets dinged again, but in the ankle this time…another regrettable Russ three…Thunder look pretty good so far…
Maybe the Cavs should try to push the pace a little bit more like the thunder have done.
I just don’t think the Cavs are suited to that….at least against GS or OKC. Those teams both are more athletic, and they love playing like that.
I’m sorry I meant that they should try to push the pace against the Raptors since all the sudden the Raptors defense has become really good.
Oh, right….yeah, probably so
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One of the few good thing about the Cavs losing yesterday is that tomorrow’s game is basically a most win situation for them and we are supposed to see a full effort from the Cavs.
And IMO if they are going to choke better do it now than to make to the finals and get swept there.
Let’s go Cavs!!!
Here is a great breakdown of the Cavs dominating Delly/LeBron/Jefferson/Frye play from last night.
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-the-play-that-almost-doomed-toronto/
Good article, and exactly why Delly is valuable. He is able to run pick and roll plays like this to perfection, which means any made shots by him are gravy.
Great analysis and the most telling comment: “Cleveland Coach Ty Lue like made a mistake going away from the play after one failure given its earlier success, particularly in favor of the stagnant mismatch-obsessed offense the Cavs mostly ran instead to close the game out.” You think? Lue talked about having sleepless nights, and I imagine he isn’t getting much sleep after his game four decisions.
Great stuff from Zach Lowe today. Both this piece: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15700317/toronto-exposed-cavaliers-weakest-link and The podcast he did with Windhorst (who was riding in a car with Lloyd, DaveMc, and Joe Vardon)
Hey, I just listened to that.
Really great article. I especially liked the footage showing the troubles Toronto are causing on the Kyrie/Love pick and roll. But it has me disagreeing with the contingent that says Mozgov can’t be played – I still have a hard time believing he wouldn’t offer some sort of rim protection. After all, you can’t teach 7 foot.
Ooh, Cols is not going to like that article:
“Cleveland’s defense hasn’t been good enough four games into an Eastern Conference finals tied at two games apiece, especially when point guard Kyrie Irving and big man Kevin Love are involved…. Point guard Kyle Lowry has destroyed Irving, especially in Game 4 on Monday, either losing Irving behind screens or juking him out of the play by faking toward a pick — and then bolting the other direction.”
It just gets uglier from there.
Delly’s fault, no doubt…
Cavs lost the game because of their lackluster- regular season level- defense. They did not bring the intensity, the physicality.
Kyrie and K-Love sucked with regards to defense, physicality, intensity.
Defense wins championships. Nothing matters more.
Obviously Kyrie’s decision making on offense is horrid and K-Love’s lack of fortitude in the paint is the most disconcerting thing I’ve seen from the Cavs all postseason, but defense matters more than anything. I have no idea if those two can play defense at a championship level.
So you are going to let 96 minutes of mediocre basketball (actually not even that many since the Cavs outscored the Raptors in the 2nd half last night) overtake the 10 awesome games to begin this postseason?
And Irving was awesome last night. It’s not his fault Delly can’t shoot.
KI was freaking terrible on defense…anything he did on offense, he gave back, and then some, on D.
They need to never have TT on the floor when Biyombo is out there. He is absolutely worthless in that situation. This should be the series Frye gets huge minutes, as long as Biyombo is their primary center. The Cavs aren’t good at preventing opponents’ three opportunities (especially when KI is out there), and it’s biting them these last two games. They crushed the Raptors when they couldn’t hit an open shot. Guess what, they’re hitting them now. Lowry will get his when he’s on, but they need to find a way to prevent freaking Derozan from scoring 30. Or… Read more »
I say start the game tomorrow with your normal lineup of Ky, JR, LBJ, Love and TT. Give it about 4-5minutes and see how it turns out. If Love is not hitting open 3’s, TT is not boxing out and being a presence and JR is not playing to his potential, then you yank them out and bring in Delly, Frye and RJ. Delly can play the 1, have Ky move to the 2, RJ at 3 and LBJ and Frye at 4 & 5 respectively. See how this lineup does for another 4-5 minutes and then decide on what/who… Read more »
I haven’t watched enough to understand what is happening with Tristan, but as nice as it is to have Frye pulling Biyombo out of the paint, it ends up with extra possessions for the Raptors because Frye can’t be counted on to keep Biyombo off the glass.
I think we’re gonna need big games from Delly, Tristan, and JR come Wednesday.
One thing worth mentioning. My buddy watched the game, not a Cavs fan. His takeaway was shock that Lebron was so passive and didn’t take over or attempt to late in the game. Now I disagree because he did take over in an extremely intelligent, surgical way to start the 4th and he’s doing what everyone has said he should do since he entered the league. But maybe my friend has a point , is there a point late in the game where Lebron needs to see the situation and go all Russel Westbrook? Or can he trust his team… Read more »
Some friends watching the game with me – just casual NBA fans – made similar comments. Perhaps LeBron was too gassed from playing so many minutes that he didn’t have the extra gear we are accustomed to seeing. With as bad as some of the Cavs shot, I would have taken an inefficient LeBron going off for 40 instead. I think Game Five will see LeBron put up well over 30 pts.
I meant to add that one comment from the most casual of my NBA fans/friends was when Delly was dishing dimes in the 4th quarter. He asked why “this guy” wasn’t playing more. Good question: In 15 minutes, Delly had 5 assists to 1 turnover. In 39 minutes, Irving had 6 assists (actually decent for him) and 4 turnovers. Lowering Delly’s minutes is a mistake IMO of Lue’s rotations. We need Irving’s scoring of course, but we also need more Delly time. The Delly/TT alley oop has been neutered by Lue. Those alley oops to TT also helped to get… Read more »
I’m not sure why Lue is riding LBJ, Ky and Love into the 9-10 minute mark of the first quarter(well, more for LBJ). The 3rd game was a punch to the face and you were hoping Ky and Love were just on a “one game” slump. But yesterday was obvious that Love was not mentally prepared, so why keep him out there? As far as Ky, he has been horrid in the defensive end these last two games, so Lue needs to understand that if he’s not hitting his shots, he becomes a liability out there. Lue must sit some… Read more »
I hypothesize not having a rest at all in the second half and expending so much energy for the comeback had something to do with it. Would have liked to see Lebron take more than 1 shot in the last 5 minutes, but Lue should have gotten him some rest at some point in the 3rd so he could have finished stronger.
I had a friend that said the same thing. I had to remind him that LeBron is not 22 anymore. In his 30’s, LeBron cannot be expected to have more energy than anyone else in the gym. He also is a mediocre outside shooter. Thus the way he takes over a game is in a fast moving attack, coordinated with the other players zipping the ball around. That has happened plenty of times, but not the last two games. It would probably work better with Delly than with KI. I would absolutely have tried McRae yesterday. Oops! He was not… Read more »
The Problem in the Fourth was, that all those consecutive shots did not kill the raptors, because they shot almost as good as the Cavs. At one point they were 8 of 12 i think. So the all this perfect execution from the Cavs smothered the fact, that the defense was still not working. And then Lue put Kyrie back in for Shump and the defense got worse. You cant play the 2 PG Lineup against the Raptors. So what i wanted to say, im pissed about the defense and the rotation from Lue (mainly in the first half, but… Read more »
Game 5 adjustments: 1) Agree with the comment that Love or Frye MUST be at center when Byombo is on the floor. If that means starting Love at 5 and moving Lebron to 4, so be it. 2) Kyrie needs to sit when he’s playing matador D. Pops does it with his players all the time; Lue needs to make a move when he sees it happening. As successful as the Cavs have been when Delly’s on the floor, he can stand an extra 10 minutes of playtime in Kyrie’s stead. 3) Time to bring Mozzy in to put Lowry… Read more »
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Mozzy commit a hard foul unfortunately.
Basically I agree we can’t have Tristan out there when Biyambo is out there; we need spacers.
RJ looked good against DeRozan; I think we could give him and Shump more minutes to fill in for Tristan (and Love if Love is on the struggle bus).
Unlike most games in these playoffs where I have had to fight to pay attention while the Cavs dismantle their opponent, I will be paying attention tomorrow in what is obviously a must win for the home team. We will see how they respond to the pressure.
Let’s go Cavs!
Just so I’m not crazy – that “block” by Biyambo on the James Alley-Oop was 100% absolutely no doubt a foul right? I mean the announcers were going on about how it was a clean block and I just can’t understand how they could be saying that. Biyambo jumps from like 4 feet away and smashes in to LeBron’s body – its an easy foul and its not even close.
Yep.
Van Gundys take was- “If you block the ball first, that’s all that matters. As long as the block happens before the contact there’s no foul”
If that’s the rule, then he’s right….but I’ve personally never heard that before.
I have no problem taking and missing 70 threes a game if those are the right shots. I’m never going to say they should stop shooting them if they are open and coming out of good offense . If it is a bad three, that is different thing. If I were the coach, I would start the death lineup of Delly, Shump, RJ,Bron and Frye. I would run the same action literally every time down the floor until the Raptors stopped it 5 times in a row. Seriously. The Delly/PnR hasn’t been stopped by the opposition all season. The Cavs… Read more »
Nice take as always.
One glaring thing I have noticed with Raps this series. They are NOT having those horrific mental lapses late 2nd quarter & in the 3rd quarters like they did almost dependably in Miami and Pacer series.
I just don’t get it. Is Lue out of ideas to stop this paint dominance from Lowry & Derozan? I always knew Raps would give us hell at the paint & rim but I didn’t expect Love to be so ineffective. I didn’t expect Lue in this given scenario, to not dust off Mosgov in this series to at least clog the paint even if it was for 4 mins. My heart is still cheering for these CAVS but my brain in what I’m seeing & not seeing is preparing me for …… I don’t like this at all. They… Read more »
Moz couldn’t possibly be any worse for 4-5 minutes guarding the paint. If Moz implodes, fine, put him back on the bench. Clearly what we are doing to stop Toronto’s duo, and box on Biyombo, isn’t working. Windy was asked about Moz this morning, and he thinks the Russian is buried alive on the bench to stay.
Have you watched Moz all year? Because he’s been terrible. Everyone think that the real Moz was the one we saw for 6 months last year, but that is the outlier in his career. Those 6 months were the best he’s ever played by a wide margin. He’s reverted back to sucky now.
Unfortunately, Windy is probably right and I truly believe it will cost us. We have an ineffective Love and TT and it’s killing the Cavs. A Big Massive Body like Mosgov could help even for 4 mins . There is no way most other NBA coaches (including Casey) given in this specific would ignore that equipment . He’s a living freakin wall.
“given in this specific circumstance” (wish I could edit after I post sometimes)
Mozgov has been terrible this season. I don’t see how having to guard someone as active as Bismack will change that regardless of how big Moz is. I get wanting to find answers but the best one is to probably switch Love and TT’s assignment on defense, and using Frye more at the five to pull Bismack out of the paint. It will hurt our rebounding but how much worse could it actually get.
They had an effective game plan. Get easy wide open shots. The problem was they missed those shots. Just need to step it up on defense a bit and they win easily.
An effective game plan has to include the defensive side of the ball, which you almost always ignore.
“Just need to step it up on defense a bit and they win easily.”
Absolutely!! We need the grit squad back!
YEP! So bizarre. so bizarre
Crazy ESPN stat. DeRozan/Lowry are the first tanden in a conference finals to score 30 or more with 60% shooting accuracy since 1993. The Chuckster and Dan Majerle did it for the Suns then according to Marla R of the Beacon Journal. And the 67 were the most that DeRozan/Lowry have ever scored together. Among a myriad of defensive problems, we have to body up DeRozan more and fight through screens. Sadly, #23 wasn’t very good at that last night although he still of course was the Cavs best player on the court.
I know everyone is freaking out, but when was the last time an NBA champ didn’t go 6 or 7 games on the way to the Finals? Shaq-Kobe Lakers 15 or so years ago?
The Spurs run the same play over and over through guys like Boris Diaw until the other team makes an adjustment. The Warriors exploit Shaun Livingston’s size on smaller guards over and over until the other team adjusts. What I don’t understand is why the Cavs brought the starters back when the Lebron/Delly/Jefferson high post play through Lebron was annihilating the Raptor? They took a lead and then went away from what worked. If it aint broke…
I know exactly what you are saying. That lineup stayed with it but then it came to 2-3 min mark and we were still 4 pts behind. We desperately needed a couple of 3’s in which Kyrie has a pretty good history nailing those in the closing ticks of a game. He just threw in JR for the same reason. It backfired horribly and we didn’t get those rebounds. He should have put TT in there for rebound purposes. Cavs were within inches those last seconds. Then Lebron did get fouled & Lowry stole the ball It sucked!
Yep. So close to pulling it out last night. That’s why I’m pretty sure we win in 6.
The issue I have with putting Kyrie back in was that they were getting stops, with him back in they cannot stop dribble penetration. Now I know it was JR who Lowry blew by, and I know that Lebron getting fouled at the top of key was a bad break on the Lowry steal, but Lebron shouldn’t have been there to start with. Lebron should have been in the high post with Delly bringing the ball up…Or run that same PnR with Irving, either way Lebron has to be in the high post not bringing the ball down the floor.… Read more »
You can’t run those same PnR plays with Irving and expect similar success; Irving doesn’t pass to the roll man EVER. He just tries to fight through the double team, come hell or high water.
But what if he could/would? I’m confused as to what an NBA coach does if not to fix fundamental player flaws. Or we could prescribe to the definition of insanity. Surely the most stubborn player would watch the first 8 or so plays to start the 4th and realize how beautifully effective a simple play can be with attention to detail.
It was working, then Lowry fouled the crap out of Leb, stole the ball and got fouled, and the Raptors were up one. Following possession they went back to it and then Delly missed the most important shot of the game with an air ball on a wide open corner three. After that Irving and LeBron took turns missing easy shots.
Can’t really blame the offense for this one. A good offense is designed to get easy shots, the Cavs had them and missed.
“the most important shot of the game”? No, Lue took Delly and Shump out around the 3rd min mark. He wasn’t even in at the end. Kyrie and JR missed important shots of the game and team didn’t get those rebounds we normally get all season . It was stupid for Lue to deviate from what has worked all season long & not have TT get offensive rebounds in close games. I think he gets one of those in clutch.
Shump was in that line-up too btw. It’s the Cavs best defensive line-up. Lue has to incorporate them more in the 2nd quarter to stifle them better since none of our BIGS can do squat in defending the paint.
I saw lots of mental mistakes in this game.
-LeBron not respecting DeRozan’s mid-range game.
-Hard close outs on DeMarre Carroll
The Raptors have two guys that can really kill you – and the Cavs are getting killed. Can sag off Carroll if anyone.
Most of DeRozan’s shots were contested. They were still the shots he likes to take though. And Carroll sucks. I mean, Toronto shot an ungodly amount of contested shots last night and made them. Cavs shot an ungodly amount of uncontested threes and missed.
They need to pick up the defense and rebounding a bit, but the Cavs offense has been fine. Just make some shots. And Delly can decide to show up at some point.
They were “contested” in the sense that there was a defender there. That’s generally what happens on mid-range shots off the dribble. The key is you have to make him uncomfortable taking the shot – LeBron and the Cavs didn’t.
On some of them that was true. But not all of them. I think they are fine on offense and need to pick up the defense and rebound just a bit.
Cavs shot 45 uncontested shots to the raptors’ 27
Toronto was 62.7% on contested shots.
So it wasn’t our offense problem, we played very well on offense. Just Toronto went nutso on contested shots.
You mean it wasn’t a defense problem? Or you’re saying it wasn’t an offense problem it was just an execution problem (shot making?)
I’m saying the offense was fine, 3-20!! on threes, lots of them wide open in the first half killed us.
Irving was very good in this game.
Without Irving and LeBron, our offense sucked. We need one more guy to step up.
The no-call on the Lowry steal, subsequent foul LeB, and Delly wide open corner three airball did us in. Delly had better start playing better. He was terrible on defense all night and has not figured out how to shoot yet in these playoffs.
I expect we blow them away in game 5. No idea if we can win at their place.
Cavs went 10-19 from three in the 2nd half, that’s how they got back in the game. If Dell or Frye makes that wide open three when the Cavs were down four after that fraudulent steal by Lowry, Cavs win.
Make or miss league. Cavs had great ball movement and wide open shots and missed. Raptors had iso mid range shots and made them.
Sucks, but basketball is all about making or missing. All this talk about strategy and whatnot is useless if you can’t knock down your wide open shots.
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