Breaking News: Lue Gone 2018-10-28 Off By Excl As per multiple sources, Tyronne Lue has been relieved of coaching duties of the Cavaliers. Larry Drew appears to be next up as interim coach. Recap: Pacers 119, Cavs 107 (Or, Lue the Pumpkin Smasher) Podcast 184: Lue-sin’ It
SOUNDS AS IF LARRY IS TRYING TO HOLD THE CAVS HOSTAGE ——–I LIKE LARRY —BUT DON’T BELIEVE HE IS LONG TERM ANSWER—-SO NO DON’T DO IT ——AGAIN IT IS NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO SET THE LEAGUE ON FIRE THIS YEAR–( UNLESS IT IS A DUMPSTER FIRE )—–LMAO ARCH ON THAT !!
Actually, he just wants to get paid and I don’t blame him. There are literally 76 games left.
The odds of Longo becoming the HC have just spiked. Hide your loved ones!
Might as well go full monty and make Longo coach/ GM…
I’m in favor of Wax Izzo over Longo.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1056673717101715456?s=20
So be it. I don’t want Drew long term as of right now. They need to go and throw tons of money at Messina in the offseason. He is a championship coach. Has been a lead Spurs assistant for some time so he has nba experience. Do everything you can to hire him or Hammon in the offseason, if you think you have the institutional strength to back her up in a hyper macho world of a lot of nba player personalities.
Honestly I don’t wish the Cavs upon Hammon, hope she lands with a way more stable organization for her first gig.
Yeah. They have to go out and try to get someone like Messina though. They have to get their coach of the future.
It sounds like the FO wanted Lue to play Nwaba more, so that’s probably a good sign moving forward. I hope to see lots more of Nwaba.
Any C:tb podcast coming soon?
Recording tonight.
😎
Awesome
Hue update: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/hue-jacksons-comments-rankled-his-staff-and-players-as-well-as-the-browns-front-office/
Maybe DG can hire Hue and Jimmy can hire Lue…. the whole Hue-Lue Switcharoo!
HaHaHa! Too funny!
Finally!!!!dan time to get back blatt or try somebody new and unique like hammon.
I am not sure I agree with this decision. I have to look at the tape.
Hilarious
Very well played. All the beers to you.
Well done
Just make sure you aggressively look at the tape!
You just won the internets.
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1056619310280556544?s=20
I don’t have faith in CavsDan to hire anyone with the gravitas to make a less talented team overachieve. Altman still likely is his purppet and he’s going to want to still try to control who gets playing time to try to prove he can win without LeBron.
Even with less talent than last year, the 10 games Drew was coach, the team looked, acted, and played different, with more energy, more innovations on both sides of ball, and everyone was having a great time. Once Lue came back the whole team dynamic changed and it was obvious to anyone on this blog that posts frequently and watches the team. Thats why I think with Drew taking the helm, the Cavs will be better and show more energy and effort for entire game, we will see more of Zicic and Nwaba and more guys who can bring benefit… Read more »
Hope so. If the front office and ownership is dictating playing minutes for specific guys, that could impact his strategy.
I think you’re spot on. Those 10 games under Drew last year had a great energy about them. Hopefully this year brings more of the same.
Will DG make another run at Izzo?
Probably.
I imagine Izzo would have zero interest. He’s older, and a big reason he didn’t bite last time was that he couldn’t get any assurances from Lebron. I would look at assistants from Pop or President Stevens. I have a feeling Dan will look for a ‘name’, though, so we’re probably hosed.
Maybe wax Izzo…
http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width600/img/spartans_impact/photo/img-5674jpg-1b638f0f23a9c0c3.jpg
Bahaha win
I would delighted if they put Wax Izzo in as head coach. It would at least show that they have a sense of humor.
The 2016 title LBJ brought is one of, if not the, greatest feat in BB history. The fact he got a franchise this historically dysfunctional/snakebit across the finish line against a historically great GS team just keeps getting more amazing.
Of course he’ll never get his just due on this.
So true.
It took everyone to dig out of that hole.
Wouldn’t have done that without Ky. Not a chance. Took Phil handy to get LBJ’s and everyone else’s heads out of their butts.
When you win the seventh game by one point, you couldn’t have done it without any contributor.
True that.
But they beat GS by 4 points in game 7…
I know TT was hurt during the span but I remember Drew playing Zz and trusting him. Hopefully that starts with the next game.
Yeah hopefully that is the case. I have no problem with them playing the young guys, as long as it is the right young guys.
There’s a Spanish saying that when translated to English goes, “It’s easier to call him than to see him come”.
I (we) have been calling for Lue’s firing for the last year/season, now I’m worried of what will come. I truly hope Hammon is the main target.
I don’t think anything significant will happen until the offseason. I don’t think Larry Drew is a great coach either, so he’s likely a placeholder. I expect lots of losing, especially if Hood and Clarkson get heavy minutes
I like Clarkson but not as the nucleus of the offense. Hopefully Drew reiterates that.
So both Lue and Jones gone?
Appears so.
That’s good. Jones was an average player and only got his coaching gig cause of LeBron.
I didn’t think Lue was a great coach, but the fact that he was let go before Hue Jackson is criminal. Hue is like a historically bad HC.
https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1056571131946242048?s=20
This is a joke right? Right?!!!
Yes.
Phew. No idea who “McNeil” is.
If at first you don’t succeed… try, try again…
ugh…browns cannot block a single steeler right now. another young promising qb may be sacrificed this year. He’ll never learn to be a qb if he only has 1 second to look around before he gets blasted in the face every play.
still no easy fixes here. the mire is deep.. and the decade long slog back to respectability will be harsh.. the mortgage is due and will be paid..
the “ghosts” of bennett and kyrie will be haunting this organization for the next 10 yrs
to say nothing of TT and waiters..
the stench of bad decisions is difficult to cleanse
Give me a break
You are obviously a troll. Go away.
We’ll see. Lue was not a great coach, or at least the right one for this team, so no idea what you’re going on about other then to just make statements that have seemingly contradicted your previous views.
Maybe they can get a Quicken Loan?
I thought the Browns played at 4 today… oops.
Trust me it’s good you forgot!
Lucky you!
Hue must have incriminating pics of the Haslams:
https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/1056593332988723200?s=20
sad but humane euthanasia
https://twitter.com/KevinKleps/status/1056596274575822848?s=20
How does he know this?
Because he’s Kevin and he has all the secrets.
I wonder if some of these vets will start demanding trades, if they’re not getting played?
To be fair to DG, Lue did say nice things about him last night:
In what turned out to be among his last statements as coach Saturday night, Lue said, “I don’t think you define culture off of wins and losses.
“I think you define culture on how the organization is a class-A organization, and with Dan Gilbert at the helm, it’s always going to be that way,” Lue said. “I think it’s about the players you bring in. It’s about your coaching staff and who you surround the people with.” – per Vardon
So while Altman was on Lue’s staff when Lue was named head coach, Altman didn’t hire him. The relationship deteriorated over the course of the past two seasons, as Lue clearly felt more comfortable with Griffin and Altman grew frustrated over what he saw on the court. Lue was upset when the Cavs acquiesced to Irving’s demand for a trade in the summer of 2017 and shipped him to Boston for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and two draft picks — one of which turned out to be Sexton. —- Vardon
After two losses to open the season, Altman and Lue informed three veterans — JR Smith, Kyle Korver and Channing Frye — that the organization was “going young,” which veterans perceived as tantamount to tanking. George Hill was still going to start instead of Sexton, but Sexton’s minutes were on order to be increased to 30 per game. The pressure wasn’t just coming from the front office but also from Gilbert. —- Per Vardon
Shark show. Par for the course.
Oh DG. Hope he stops trying to influence bball decisions at some point. Likely will never change though.
The team’s players were informed immediately thereafter. A source told The Athletic the players are “pissed.” Lue’s a player’s coach who is partial to veterans, and his partiality toward them might have played a role in his dismissal. —- per Vardon
So then I would expect Korver and Hill to get traded in the coming months.
The good news is that Longo is likely gone at seasons end:
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/1056585612860502016?s=20
I think we will probably have a new GM and Coach next season.
I think it will be more difficult to get one of the hotter couching candidates, when this team allegedly has an owner that meddles.
Could be an issue. DG would likely have to throw a boat load of money. You might get Hammon, because it would be a first and who knows how many teams are ready to make that leap.
Expect DG to cheap out like he did with Griffin. Seems to be less interested in investing in management positions these days.
He doesn’t cheap out on coaches usually. Just the Front Office.
So far that is true. But with the team rebuilding and with no chance to contend anytime soon, wouldn’t be surprised if that changes. Also can’t imagine he is going to want to spend yet more big bucks on coaching when he will have 3 coaches on the books, two of which have big contracts, and will need to hire another one.
Has this really happened? I can’t believe what my eyes are seeing!!
Thank you Lue for the championship, you will always be appreciated for being part of that.
Would like to see Larry Drew at the helm.
See below. Not happening. Could be for the best. I wouldn’t offer him more than an interim until you get a chance to see if you can snag Messina or Hammon next summer. Of course this could have been avoided if they got rid of Lue when they should have and had a new coach in place by the beginning of the season.
Drew is the interim for now:
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1056582511491534848?s=20
Well good news. Didn’t realize Nate’s tweet was a hypothetical/joke.
The metaphor for this Cavs’ season just blows me away. One big, empty box. – Joe Vardon
Vardon, the perpetual Debbie, Downer.
It was in relation to the 20,000 empty boxes that were provided to the fans at the game. Apparently 1,000 had something in them like game tix, but 95% had nothing.
Weasel stole my metaphor
Not that it wasn’t obvious
JV doesn’t have an original bone in his body…
😂😂😂
WHILE ANYONE GETTING FIRED ISN’T A GOOD THING—HOW MANY OF US WOULD GET TERMINATED AND STILL MAKE 15 MILLION ??—-SO I AM NOT CRYING TOO MUCH FOR TY
No soup getting thrown atcha:
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1056583255925968896?s=20
Runing around like a maniac today. Will jump in later to talk. Wow…
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1056602779224080387?s=19
Well Dan Gilbert might be taller than him, so if the shoe fits.
Well. This could have been handled better. Like getting rid of him before the season and after LBJ left. Or getting rid of him before last year. This team will be a disaster with Longibardi. What a mess.
Yikes! Doesn’t look like a good sign.
https://twitter.com/Bottlegate/status/1056569911017906177?s=19
Great memory! I was glad I was there to see it!!
AGREE WITH JOHNB—DON’T GET LULLED INTO HIRING DREW LONG TERM——DO YOUR HOMEWORK/ HAVE PATIENCE / THEN PURSUE
Hue could be next… if he loses to the Steelers today.
https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1056585322073636865?s=20
Can’t believe Longibarf isn’t gone. Lue being gone needed to happen, but I may have gone more than 6 games. Really, if he had that short a leash, they should have fired him this summer. Should have fired him before last year. This sort of does reek of DG’s typical impatience. Can’t imagine they will be a ton worse unless the team quits. They likely won’t be a ton better either. But Lue pretty much failed in his mission over the summer and in preseason, so this was a forgone conclusion.
Larry looking to get the bag.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1056578040967413760?s=19
Don’t do it DG. Wait for once in your life. See who’s available in the summer. Court Messina and Hammon all year. For once show some patience.
NATE I WAS THINKING THE SAME —-BLATT—-GIVE HIM THE TYPE OF TEAM HE REALLY WATED TO COACH AND I BELIEVE IS GOOD AT COACHING ——AT LEAST THE POST GAME INTTERVIEWS WOULD BE MORE ENLIGHTENING —AND WE COULD ALL —“GO BOWLING “
Can we fire the owner?
From Amico, for your pain chip eating needs:
“While it likely had nothing to do with the decision to fire Lue, multiple league sources have told Amico Hoops that Lue didn’t care for Cavs general manager Koby Altman. “(Lue) neither like nor respected him,” one source said.”
Woahhhh! Much sooner than I expected.
“LET’S ALL GO BOWLING ” !!! :)
https://twitter.com/ByJasonLloyd/status/1056591866735534080
That is Browns-like which is sort of terrifying.
https://twitter.com/DanFeldmanNBA/status/1056586103711510528?s=19
Not great company, tbh.
It was worth it to get a NBA Championship!
SOMEONE PLEASE INFORM –‘KINGJAMESGOSPEL ” OF THE NEWS—THEY HAVEN’T EVEN POSTED IT YET—-GEEZ !!
Guys…I think Koby might be on to something here. You may recall we won a championship the last time we fired a coach mid-season. 🤔
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1056590144969547776?s=19
SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET HANDY GO——DAMON CAN GO KICK BACK WITH HIS BUDDY LA-BRON —-PLEASE ADD 1 MORE COACH TO THAT LIST WE ALL KNOW—IT HAS TO BE “LONGO “—————AM SURE WE WILL LIGHT UP THIS BLOG WITH POTENTIAL CANDIDATES —LET THE SEARCH AND DEBATES BEGIN !!———–I AM LEANING TOWARDS NATE AS HEAD COACH—EVIL AS ASSISTANT—OR VICE VERSA–YOU GUYS FIGURE / FIGHT IT OUT :)
Nate’s got more experience…
I’ve only coached 8-13 year old girls. I’m not sure im ready for this kind of step down in attention span and maturity level.
Ha!!!
Didn’t Handy want to join Lebron?
Other than Hammond – any other up and comers that would excite? I assume Brad Stevens 2.0 ain’t out there…?
Not sure they can even hire someone in season who is another team’s assistant.
Honestly, I’d look at Blatt.
Yeah, I expect Drew all season. If they did bring in someone, it’d probably have to be over the all star break, and someone not currently in the NBA. I’d be shocked if they made some hire before the summer.
HAMMON TIME!
https://twitter.com/ElusiveGin/status/1056567844874252288
Daaaaaaaang EG that’s cold
Damon Jones also let go, much to Nate and Tom’s distress, no doubt…
B-b-b-b-ut not me… right?!
Nope, you’re safe!
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1056587349197537282?s=19
STOP. Hammon Time…
YEAH SUMMERTIME WAS THE TIME —-BUT THINK THEY WANTED TO GIVE TY “1” MORE CHANCE WITHOUT THE “LEBRON SHADOW ” TO CONVINCE THEMSELVES THAT TY WAS BELOW AVG NBA COACH——–YES WE DID MISS OUT ON SOME TOP CANDIDATES –STILL SOME OUT THERE —-SO THE PLAYERS BEING “PISSED “– JUST AN OUTWARD SIGN OF LOYALTY ?? –BUT DEEP DOWN THEY ARE RELIEVED / HAPPY OF THE DECISION ???——AM SURE THERE WERE THOUGHTS OF MAKING THIS DECISION BEFORE BUT YOU KNOW WHO’S “SHADOW ” LOOMED OVER—-DIDN’T WANT TO PISS –“THE SHADOW ” OFF !!——-GO CAVS !!
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1056582808657973251?s=19
WOW—-NEVER WISHING ANYONE BAD LUCK—BUT TY WAS NOT THE ANSWER HERE—-LONGO HAS TO GO ALSO—SHOCKED THAT BOTH WEREN’T LEFT GO TOGETHER ———OK AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED WE ARE 0-0 / SEASON IS JUST STARTING —ANTE HAS TO BE HAPPY WITH THIS NEWS—————REALLY THINK MAYBE THIS IS WHAT TY WANTED ??
I can only hope Longabardi is next in the firing line.
I never called for Lue to be fired (Longo is a different story…and he appears to be staying…), but I don’t think he’s a great fit for this particular team. I think he’s probably an average head coach in the NBA. I don’t have too much confidence in this FO/ ownership making the next hire. People like Budenholzer and Fizdale would probably never work under Gilbert…why would they, they had other suitors. Thanks to Lue for whatever role he played in getting the championship. He’ll land on his feet, I’m sure. Whenever he wants to coach again, I’m sure he’ll… Read more »
Cavs rotation moving forward to accomplish goals of moving older vets down the road
Starters
-Sexton
-JR
-Osman
-Love
-Nance
Next Five
-Hood
-Clarkson
– Zicic
– Nwaba
– Frye
emergency guys if they are really necessary
– Hill
– Dekker
Move immediately regardless of costs
– TT
Bring up in rotation
– Preston
– Colson
Hill is fine.
Per Joe Vardon, many players are ‘pissed’ about Lue’s firing, but he was messing around with rotations so much it was getting ridiculous. I always felt he won a title as coach in spite of himself, Lebron and Kyrie went nuts for 3 games, and Lue happened to be there. Felt he was just more and more underwhelming after the fact. Cavs played so much better with Drew as coach, wouldn’t be surprised if they pull out a few wins here and play around .500 ball from here on out.
i would be shocked if they play 500 ball. im thinking 15 wins
I think talent is better than what shows, if TT is dropped from rotation and Cavs play ball same way under Drew they did last year, could be different story. They were very laid back and had aggressive defensive style. Not saying they will contend, but still see a 30 win team at least.
If they manage to beat the Hawks, lose to Denver, and then beat Orlando and Charolette this Cavs team will be just 1 win behind where they were last year.
Just a funny thought.
Funny and good.
Same. 15-20. Whether Lue stayed or not. Maybe 25 wins if a couple of guys improve.
We are ready for that!!
7 to 12..
Leo, you’re missing how much better the rest of the league has gotten and how horribly put together this roster is.
Cavs should’ve fired him and hired Fizdale last spring. Or hammond in the summer…
They definitely missed out on some candidates this summer. Budenholzer too
Bud would’ve never have picked here over Milwaukee. Fiz would’ve given the Cavs a chance to re-sign Bron.
Agree with Ten ThOsman Maniacs below that I have no ill feelings towards Lue the person. However my goodness was this something that had to happen. At this point the average fan would be better able to coach this team from an Xs and Os standpoint.
Wow! I thought they would wait longer.
I almost feel bad for him. He does seem like a nice guy. So obviously over matched this season. Probably a season too late though!