Live Thread: Cavs @ Knicks, Game 3 NBA Playoffs
2023-04-21Good evening CtB!
The Cavs have ventured to Midtown Manhattan to take on the New York Knicks for game three of the 2023 NBA Playoffs at the historic Madison Square Garden. The Cavs are riding high off of a game two beatdown of the Knicks that saw them adjust and respond well after game one’s embarrassing offensive performance. In game two, Coach J.B. Bickerstaff left Isaac Okoro, Ricky Rubio, and Dean Wade parked on the bench as he let Caris LeVert cook at the combo guard spot and unleashed NBA Champion Danny Green off the bench. The result was damn near perfection on both ends of the court as the Cavs held the Knicks to sub-40% shooting, outrebounded the Knicks 43-36, out-assisted the Knicks 26-16, and nearly put up the magical 50/40/90 shooting splits. The performance was so good that question began anew about whether to make a change to tonight’s starting lineup given Okoro’s obvious inability to make Jalen Brunson pay for hiding on the defensive end. Even one of Okoro’s biggest cheerleaders in cleveland.com’s Chris Fedor has questions about the starting Okoro at this point:
Earlier this season, one #Cavs coach referred to a 5-man group as Cleveland’s death lineup. Darius Garland. Donovan Mitchell. Caris LeVert. Evan Mobley. Jarrett Allen. With how LeVert played in Game 2, is it time to make that the starting lineup again?https://t.co/mZRr7yYpMK
— Chris Fedor (@ChrisFedor) April 21, 2023
For yours truly, the answer is obvious that Okoro should be relegated to bench duty but the question becomes, who should start? Personally any one of Caris LeVert, Cedi Osman, or Danny Green would be acceptable answers to that question, and I still wouldn’t count out Dean Wade from that equation either in spite of his horrible start to the playoffs. The bottom line is, this the NBA playoffs, every possession matters and there’s literally zero reason why Jalen Brunson should be afforded the luxury of relaxing on the defensive end at the expense of the Cavs’ offense. J.B. needs to be ruthless and remorseless for 48 minutes, which means making the Knicks pay for every moment Brunson’s on the court. Here’s some eye-popping stats that bring home the point:
It’s clear what’s lost when Okoro’s on the floor with the starters: rebounding, scoring, and ball movement… all three of which cost the Cavs game one. Yes the defense was excellent, and I have no problem seeing that lineup in spots where it’s needed, but Caris LeVert’s defense was much better still. I’d much rather see Okoro and Cedi Osman as a tandem off the bench that can compensate for each other’s weaknesses, apropos:
Osman and Okoro make for a deadly two man combination off the bench, why it hasn’t been used more is anyone’s guess. Just for fun, let’s throw Dean Wade into the equation and see what happens…
Hmm… what’s this? Osman, Okoro, and Wade are an elite three man grouping? It’s a shame this wasn’t explored more during the regular season.
It’s funny to talk to non-Cavs fans about Isaac Okoro during the regular season and these playoffs, because they universally see the obvious: To this point, Isaac Okoro is not a good NBA player and holds the team back from its full potential. Yet this obvious truth escapes many in Cavs media, fandom, and even the organization itself. Okoro has had three full seasons to show what he’s capable of, and right now he’s a rotation player on a good team, but not a worthy starter. And should the Cavs be good enough to go deeper into these playoffs, Okoro’s weakness in the starting lineup will become even more stark. No player was affected more than Evan Mobley, who’s offense took a leap from game one to game two:
With Randle trapping PnRs, this forced Mobley to attack out of the short roll where he really struggled. Notice how far Hart is able to help off Okoro, forcing Mobley to drive left and into Hartenstein. Knicks did a great job of shrinking the floor pic.twitter.com/4y4RdJyeaO
— Ariel (@APachecoNBA) April 16, 2023
Another short roll opportunity for Mobley and he kicks out to Okoro who puts the ball on the floor and misses over Brunson. Knicks will take this every time and something to watch for as the series goes on pic.twitter.com/FKbGmicZxx
— Ariel (@APachecoNBA) April 16, 2023
What will J.B. do? He said to Fedor in yesterday’s press scrum that he doesn’t plan on making a change, however Bickerstaff also gave Fedor a laughing smirk, the kind a coach gives when they don’t want to divulge any information that might help an opponent… so stay tuned!
PUT THIS ON A LOOP IN THE CAVS’ LOCKER ROOM
LETS. GO. CAVS. pic.twitter.com/54b3vQE92Z
— 🎧 (@RizzMobley) April 21, 2023
Tip off is scheduled for 8:30PM Eastern time and will be broadcast live nationally on ABC, Go Cavs!
Here comes Okoro or 5 on 4
That was a weak call against Rubio
Cavs need a call to believe the refs are here. Not sure they’re going to get it,
and a 17 point quarter.
Could be a make or miss game
Great quarter. Cavs playing much better d. Ball just not going in. It will. Cavs shot like shit and still tied. Love the pace.
MSG installing the small rims for tonight’s game
Bad shoot by cedi. Lots of time for him to drive and dish
Was going to say it seems like only Donovan or JA have been able to score… Mobley was the only other scorer with 2 pts. Yeesh.
Gotta throw JA some lobs. They’re playing way up.
Spida!
HOLY SHIT WHAT A FINISH
Whoever hits 80 first wins
Or perhaps 70
Keep shooting, RJ…
WHAT A SHOT DONNIE BASKETBALL
Donny bball!
Good d by Rubio on Randall
I love our team but this where you could really use an established experienced shooting forward
Caris cold shooting as a starter… otherwise playing well.
Everyone, really
The Cavs are fine. Just gotta calm down. Someone gotta crack a joke.
For sure. Gotta loosen up. Need to see that Garland smile.
Lmfao. The ref called that from the reaction.
Full on flop
Is Okoro wearing Garland’s jersey tonight? Geez!
Obviously this will be one of those games where DG can’t hit a shot all game. Just infuriating.
Let’s go, Ricky. Freshly shorn.
Ok that was a bad shot
Total flop by Barrett
Great penetration dg
NICE HUSTLE JA
There we go. Cavs outplaying em. Just gotta calm down.
Looks like Rubio and Green are coming in
THERE YOU GO MOBLEY!
WTF WAS THAT MOBLEY
Jfc
Better
There you go Mobes
Somebody gotta rip a fart in the huddle to break the tension.
Here comes Cedi
Mobley ugh. Just slow down.
CMON JA BOX OUT
Shooting like crap. Mobley should have dumped that to JA
Just put more air under it.
Ugly bball from both teams
Energy from MSG rattling both teams
CMON MOBLEY DONT SHORT ARM IT, USE THE SQUARE
Cavs just gotta put it in the hoop
Caris does the smart thing and goes to the hoop.
MAKE YOUR FREE THROW CARIS
DG needs to keep shooting if he is open.
100%
Evan nobly should not be shooting 3 pt shots. Period.
Go inside. Thank you, Spida.
Mitchell might need to dominate for a bit
That last shot was dumb. No one can stop him off the bounce. Just drive.
THERE WE GO DONOVAN
Poor shooting start for both teams
dammit DG wide open looks
this crowd is electric
No more 3’s Mobes
Need to get DG an easy look to get going
dammit DG cold to start good shots
Keep shooting
Allen gotta do a better job getting that rebound.
MOBLEY DEFENSE!!!!!!!
Dumb
Mitchell.
LET THAT BALL GO DONOVAN DAMMIT
JA PUMP FAKE AND FINISH!
Cavs bigs can’t give cheap fouls. Was that on Mitchell or Allen?
REBOUND THE BALL DAMMIT
nice passing nice finish JA!
Cheapo foul put of the gate.
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1649562688576430080?s=20
THE CARIS AGENDA WILL NOT BE STOPPED
yes baby!!!!! lets go!!!!!
Attaway Caris
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1649565957356961794?s=20
LETS GOOOOOO
3-A-KITE —-WTF — IF IT WAS ABOUT SAVING “ CHUMP “ CHANGE FOR NOT PUTTING HIM ON THE PLAYOFF ROSTER THAT IS “ CRIMINAL “ NOT TO MENTION LUDICROUS BS I HOPE THEIR DECISION DOESN T COST US THIS PLAY-OFF SERIES
IS WINDLER ON THE PLAYOFF ROSTER WOULD IT BE CRAZY TO GIVE HIM A RUN IF WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF USING HIM WHY HIM ON THE PLAYOFF ROSTER AND NOT 3-A – KITE
He’s listed as out “foot.” Send him to the glue factory.
They didn’t want to pay diakite for a roster spot. Kind of baffling.
Screaming A Smith has entered Skip Bayless territory!
he’s wishcasting 100% LMFAO
Go Cavs!
I agree go Cavs
Friday Night Fights! Thanks for the stats posts! Really didn’t mind love leaving if the plan was to develop wade/ anyone else as back up big. I give the coaches a lot of credit for the good that’s happened this season, but that has to be amongst the biggest strategic and tactical failures. This is a tasty matchup and really want to see the good guys step up under the lights!
You’re welcome Tom as always! Yup, 100% agree with Love, but fortunately for the team Diakite and Mobley look like viable backup 4s that now have a chance to develop… it’s on the coaches to play them though.