Finals Live Thread: Cavs @ Warriors, Game 2
2018-06-03The Cavs are back in Oracle Arena after a very controversial game one loss. That game will down in history and may even be what people remember about the 2018 Finals, regardless of who the victor is.
For many Cavs fans, it will be the game that LeBron James took a charge, that was called on the floor, from Kevin Durant while standing a very reasonable distant from the cylinder. It will be the game the refs decided that he might have been in the cylinder; but even after they saw he wasn’t in the restricted area in a replay, they still decided to rule the call a blocking foul because it looked like one and they could. It was a call reversal the league rarely sees. And, although it was within the rules of the game, it was completely ridiculous.
For other fans, this will be the J.R. Smith game. After securing a last second offensive rebound with the game tied and time left on the clock to call a timeout, Smith dribbled out the clock and said he thought the Cavs were up . Then he said he maybe didn’t know the score with his body language. Then Ty Lue said that J.R. didn’t know the score during the post-game presser. J.R. claimed he did know the score after the game. And, yesterday, Smith acknowledged he didn’t know the score. As of now, he may know the score. He may not. Who knows what’s going on in Swish’s head.
Some of the most crazed fans will think of this as the George Hill game. Hill missed a late free throw that would have put the Cavs ahead to avoid overtime and force a very tough Warrior’s final shot attempt.
This game could even be remembered as the Tristan Thompson getting ejected for reacting to Draymond Green’s dancing and taunting antics in overtime game.
For me, this game is going to be the game that pushed LeBron James and the rest of the Cavs enough to win a title. The Cavs are underdogs. People have been saying that all year. True or not, the Cavs were clearly sick of that talk in game 1 and responded properly.
Tonight, the Wine & Gold are responding to getting worked by the system. I’m not going to say if feeling that way is right or wrong. And, nobody will ever be able to say if the Cavs got worked for sure. For people that want Cleveland to win, this is actually a great situation.
The Cavs are feeling a certain way. In their eyes, they were jobbed. Just listen to their statements from after they game. You can’t change a person’s feelings. If you’ve ever been mad, you know that. When you’re told to be happy, it’s basically a switch to send you into supernova anger mode.
The Cavs are going to channel this feeling tonight, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Let’s look at some things to watch:
- Fouls. The Cavs need to commit many of them. The refs are going to call this game tight, and the Warriors have a guy that’s easily excitable. Cleveland needs to poke the bear. Or, as followers of the blog know him as, the donkey, Draymond Green. Fouling more would also help Cleveland stop fast breaks. The Warriors had 28 fast break points in game one. A lot of those breaks came from guys not getting back down the court because the floor was off-balance. Guys must foul if they think a fast break is going to happen. The Warriors will get easy buckets, and Cleveland should eliminate as many of them as possible. Killing the fast break is the easiest way. Rotations will be blown in half-court defense because the Warriors are just that good, and that’s something Tyronn Lue must live with.
- Cleveland needs to keep foisting 3s. They went just 10-37 in game one, and that was a fluke. The Cavs have great 3-point shooters. They will have a game where they hit 17 3s.
- LeBron is gonna LeBron. He had 51 points on Thursday. A lot of media folks say the Cavs blew his 51 points by losing. Guess what, LeBron can score that much again, if he wants. Anything is possible right now for him. He is currently tied with Jerry West for the most 40 point games in a playoff run, eight. The Warriors don’t have anyone who can hassle the King, and it’s going to be a treat to see what he decides to do tonight. If he decides to score 60, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I’m picking the Cavs to win 113-97.
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This game has the feel of a 20 point game yet we are down 6. I still don’t think we can get the necessary stops to win this but you never know.
The Warriors really get away with murder on D. Such crap. LeBron should start really flopping around like Harden.
Cavs play smart they got this….need to cover everyone here even Javale or looney or any other big man
We’ve really played well even while playing so badly in so many ways. We should be leading!!
Here we go… down only 6….. Cavs should be down 16. Need to take advantage.
That 3 by Bron was really satisfying
Nice pass, Lebron. There ya go! THERE YA GO! /Hubie
Nice run! Much better defense this half.
MCGEE OVER THE BACK EVERY REBOUND AND NO CALL!!!!
Dnirt, George, you can’t take that foul?
Was that 4 on Hill?
It was
They run the same motion with McGee every time. They have no answer for it.
That last one was on Bron. He did a crappy job switching/chucking.
Whys tt coming out that far?
Cavs make Javale freaking McGee look like Kareem…
TT’s effort just got us 5 points
This game is why you need to win game one when it’s there for you…
I’m getting extremely annoyed once again at JR’s stupidity. I thought I was over it but this game would be a whole different one had we won the first one.
A hard foul would be nice just to fire up team…lot of easy shots and drives for warriors
What happened to Love. I thought he was the great Steph stopper. He looks like a screen door!
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LeBron can’t see. Long range shot is gone. The refs call nothing on the Dubs. We need home court.
we need to hit some 3s… not 20.. but some… how can we be so inept on 3’s… JR is crap mostly.. Korver non-existent as usual against GS.. Hill decent… Love continues to miss from 3’s and his D is just horrendous… Bron is tired and seems accepting his 3-6 Finals record fate at this point…
and Lue.. yes Lue… absolutely won’t adjust no matter what… play Green.. play Clarkson.. don’t matter how bad they play… and keeps Cedi on the bench…
Draymond with those cheap shots disguised as hustle plays again. When is Lue making him pay? I do believe that rake in Bron s eyes was deliberate with intentions to injure him and make him think twice in driving. Bron s red eye appears to have exacerbated.
Can’t really ask LeBron to rest on the court against this team. Out of the guys that are going to play, need someone to get hot in the 3rd. Hill had some nice moments in the 2nd, maybe he continues to be aggressive. Would be perfect if JR got hot.
We are shooting 25% worse than them and are “only” down 13. It feels like we should be down 25.
The Warriors defensive strategy is what’s fueling their offense no doubt. In game one, they LeBron beat them and tried to shut down everyone else. Tonight, they are doing an amazing job shutting off his driving lanes. A lot of crappy shots are ensuing in the packed paint. The Cavs need to find a way to adjust for this.
Yup, swing the ball around and there should be an open 3. Nance had a nice off ball screen that got Hill a wide open 3 mid 2nd-quarter.
If they shot fake or hesitate, GS recovers pretty quickly.
I just don’t understand why Lue/coaches don’t tell the Cavs to man up and do the same as GS. Rough em up – like hard. Do exactly the same thing they do and let the officiating go whatever way it goes.
Cuz they’re not getting the same calls. You saw that horse crap call on Korver and you saw that bailout on the last Durant drive.
does Lue ever change up? McGee has done wonders for Kerr… why does Lue stay so stubborn and Gilbert thinks Lue is a genius, it seems from recent twits… seems like we have elementary school level coaches and owner while GS has highest level at all levels – players, coaching, ownership
I am so close to rage quitting. Lebron too, it seems.
https://twitter.com/WFNYBen/status/1003445031817170945?s=19
Play Cedi! He’s your plus-minus leader at +0.
Cavs out of sorts and Lue will change nothing…third qtr could get ugly
We just suck tonight. Cant overcome both the refs and flaming steph
And Lue.
Why would TT abandon Curry in transition? Gave him an open 3.
Horrible no call on the KLOVE post up then they call BS touch call on the ensuing GSW possession.
Something about the way KLove goes up with it that he never gets the benefit of the doubt. Kinda just flails his arm up on those jump hooks. Can’t put my finger on it.
Yup… just not strong enough. I think refs think he’s flopping maybe.
Durant gets away with a personal on one end,, and then gets a bailout on the other. Another four point swing.
Refs again no foul call for love against TWO fouls in two shots. Then Durant gets a bump and its automatic
Love how that’s not called a moving screen. Like what is Hill supposed to do
Steph looks 76% to me right now…
Lebron is not attacking with confidence. Has missed some decent looks.
Yeah lebron clearly hasn’t moved on from the game 1 loss…and they are continuing to hand check and grab his arms and Jersey on drives. If they can do that and get away with it then lebron is screwed
When you have that kind of shooting on one team it’s really hard to keep up as an opponent. KLove missed a three and just in two passes the Warriors knock one on their side.
Nothing working and guys look tired…Lue has to stretch rotation here…get some energy
Too many dumb plays and turnovers to win this one, so far…
Cavs just not playing with the same focus tonight.
Why are we so dumb? Like legitimately stupid plays have occurred with seemingly zero input from Lue. TT never has a mismatch in the post because he has zero post abaility
Lebron, WTF?? Even if you get that to TT…what is he going to do?
WTF is LeBron doing???
Wow, I knew it was bad, but that bad?!
I’m sure will see those stats and be like, “Nah, he just needs to be more aggressive.”
Only two turnovers — though he’s proof of what Red Auerabach said about missed shots being the most common kind of turnover: 40 missed shots.
I wanted to post something but I don’t even know what to say… My mind is gone at the moment
well said ditto
Lack of rebounding hurting us but we can get back into this
Korver has curry on him and didn’t shoot…gotta be more aggressive
Ffgg
Terrible effort. Love can’t make a wide open corner three and gets shut down twice by David West on the same possession.
Cavs defense ok but no rebounding and no one can hit a shot…just bad combo
Lue’s burned through 4 TOs this half…. guess he doesn’t want any left so there’s no end of game controversy tonight lol
This game is making me mental.
I hate golden State so much. It is an absolute joke to the league that kevin durant went there
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Oops, that’s a repeat. Meant to post Love’s and-one.
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1003440621279989760
So we are a 25% three point shooting team now? Just like…all of a sudden? These are mostly open threes we are bricking
Love has to hit that. More arc.
Gotta hit those, Kev…you won’t get a more open shot than that…
Gotta put guys out there who can hit shots Lue
Grr. Nance get better hands defensively
Is it really that hard to create a decent look for KK.?
Love with a tough and-one
KK comits like one of those fouls per game.
That’s a bad call. That’s an offennsi9foul. Another horse shit call.
Wait…Korver jumped in a direction that would have put him nowhere near Thompson. That’s a bullsh call
Yeah, those fouls need to burn in hellfire…cal it offensive, and it’ll stop…
Please don’t pass it to Green ot there…that’s on Lebron…
As much as I dislike the Warriors I have to admit that they are really great defensively. KK can’t get a decent look against them.