Finals Live Thread Game 4: Cavs vs Warriors (Evolve or Die)
2018-06-08The Cavs already rendered the Raptors extinct, and if they don’t evolve, this incarnation of the Cavs will go the way of the dinosaurs as well. It’s true. No team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit, in the NBA playoffs, let alone the finals, but that’s no reason not to try. We all thought this series was going seven games anyway. Why even play the game if it’s a foregone conclusion? And we also all know that LeBron James like to “conserve energy” in lost causes rather than waste it in hard fought defeats, but if he’s saving energy for the offseason, then I’ll be disappointed.
What do the Cavs have to do to evolve? The Cavs didn’t lose game three because Kevin Durant scored 43 points, they lost game three because Andre Igoudala, Shaun Livingston, Jordan Bell, and JaVale McGee went for 36 on 21 shots. The Cavs have to communicate better on the pick and roll defense, and have to start chucking the roller. If they don’t this one will be over quickly. Additionally, they have to rest James, get Kyle Korver shots, and keep working the ball to Kevin Love. I’ve given up on Playing Cedi, but I’m at least hoping that if they play Rodney Hood, he defends better.
This game’s a little worrisome because Golden State hasn’t had a game where all three of their role players are “on” for a night, and expect Steph Curry to come out gunning after being very disappointed in the Game 3 performance that may have cost him a finals MVP. Meanwhile, Kevin Durant came out today and said that he doesn’t think LeBron James would accept a Finals MVP trophy in a losing cause.
I’m sure LeBron wouldn’t accept that. I mean, he’s a winner. He’s a winner. I don’t look at him as a guy that would be OK with that.
It sure sounds to me like he wants that trophy for himself. A good trash talker could exploit that rift and internal rivalry between KD and Steph. A good man to do it? The Cavs’ own Kendrick Perkins who flipped Durant the Bird after game 3. Kendrick knows Durant well from their OKC years and he knew Durant was rolling Wednesday.
When he hit his first four shots, and none of them hit the rim and they were all from different areas, I was like, ‘Man, we can’t continue to let him play like this.’ He kept them in the game, big shot after big shot.
There is a petition on Change.org to let Perk play in game 4 sponsored by Fresh Brewed Tees, and if there’s anyone who’d touch up a hot shooter, it’s Kendrick. I’d say it’s worth a shot. The Cavs have to start roughing guys up if they want to win. Well, game time is here. We’ll see if LeBron’s really the King or if he’s going to roll over. Here’s hoping his reign continues for at least one more game. If the Cavs win tonight, they’re down 3-1. And we all know what can happen then…
Go Cavs!
Nate. Nate. Nate. Nate.
nate, your thoughts on the klove charge?
Missed it.
Hill pretty overwhelmingly underwhelming
Sucks is even more succinct
18mil next year!!!!
Klay Thompson stinking up joint for warriors…surprised Kerr still has him in
He is Klay Thompson he can get out of his slump anytime… and uhmmm they have 3 more all stars.
I. Cannot. Believe. They. Called. That. Charge. On. Love.
LOL FICK THAT SH*T HIS FOOT IS ON THE RESTRICTED AREA AND HE AIN’T SET IN DEFENDING F*CK THESE REFS!!
Agreed. And the announcers had it all wrong.
Delly played better in the Final than Hill. Total no show
Durant was in the restricted area. No one mentions it.
the crowd has cashed it in already to ——bring on the draft—-LeBron “sweepstakes “—sorry for the doom of gloom attitude —–you can just sense a defeated attitude permeating in the building
Unfortunately, we are sucking pretty bad right now. Goddamn.
hahaha nate keep posting pls now we need you
Sisyphus rolling the rock up the hill…knowing the Warriors are going to win anyway.
This game…it’s like everyone knows we are doomed.
it’s not over tell the fat lady sings——but I do hear her warming up in the hallways
If Javale is making those impacts they are clearly the better team
Cavs making JaVale McGee look like an all star oy vey
The Iceman in the first half and now this.
That moving draymond screen
Ok so now they want to get Klay going?
LeBron quit that half of 8m lueninncallingnhinniutnto the national media and telling him about it.
I may be drunj.
Hahahaha
What kind of f*cking call is that?
Despite the poor shooting others have pointed out, Nance and TT did a good job of creating extra possessions and Cavs had a great advantage on the offensive boards.
I think the main problem is on the defensive end.
We need a dustup. Get TT to foul Donkey to get the juices flowing.
Isn’t it clear Lebron is half-assing the game?!?! I hope this is just him reserving energy next half. Please man I hope.
KLove has been solid, but he needs to be great for the Cavs to pull this one. I just wish he would have a monster game every once in a while.
hasn’t had one since minnesota
He did have a 34 point quarter
34 point first quarter? Portland
wow, 1 big quarter.. outstanding.. give him an extension
I am actually amazed James continues to deliver given five of nine rotation players getting major minutes are 3/23. Can ‘t believe how much criticism James is getting
clearly, Hill, Korver, Green and JR have to be much better.. Love isn’t good tonight although he has had 2 good games. his D is awful though.
The cast is such an average group, I can’t blame Bron for being passive and letting this game play out. He’s at peace at this point and conceded the series anyway. once you do that mentally, body checks out.
Hood is back to stinky Hood tonight
I guess I’ve been paying a little more attention to LBJ’s defense tonight, looking at his body language, looking for clues. It seems like a few times he has been the defensive breakdown.
Clearly, Korver is done after this year…. Love played decent in the series but never made much a dent on defense. Hill has been mostly horrible and can’t make FTs. JR is plain dumbest BB player ever. HC is not much better. it is amazing this team is in the Finals. More of an indication how bad the East is than how good Cavs are.
What is up with the eyewear on the halftime crew. Jalen ain’t effing rolling on shabbos.
I hope this is not signaling a change in fashion.
How come every jumpball has the ball slanting to the Warriors direction.? That diagonal throw by Scott Foster on Javale McGee’s direction is reminiscent of that jumpball between Curry and Bron where the ball was also thrown diagonally on Curry’s direction. In the 2015 Finals Draymond Green won jumpballs against Thompson and Bron on two separate occasions by pinning down the shoulders of those two Cavs with his left hand. somehow the refs never saw it despite being just a foot away.
i guess even w/ last game of the year, Lue will go down the ship w/ the same lineup that hasn’t worked.. and still same old mistakes after mistakes… must be nice to be paid 4-5m a year being this inept
He’s making 7mil per!!
my bad… i should have used ALL CAPS then
And Lue’s the highest paid coach with no front office duty. How depressing is that!
weird game, Lebron 50% detached, Love showing up pretty well, JR playing dumb, and Hill and TT beyond useless….play Nance, Hood, Green more, maybe even play Cedi, it can’t be any worse Lue, i mean unless he wants to get fired tomorrow
The lineups….are insane
Bron seems ‘gone’… no heart tonight… can’t really blame him much though… JR is just plain dumb. he has no clue re: clock, situational IQ, etc. just sad to watch that man…
i think bron is frustrated he doesnt have a steph (kyrie) anymore who can carry the offense occasionally. literally no one else can hit all star level shots on the cavs like kd, klay, bron, and steph
JR/Love were giving enough help on offense. 52 in a half isn’t bad. Just can’t give up 61 on the other end.
Not only do they miss wide open shots he creates for them, none of them seem to be capable of creating their own shot or shots for others consistently…
Lue sticking w/ starters cost them 7-8 pts last 5 min… i just do not like this lineup… TT, LOVE, JR on defense getting crushed… why they trap so much i don’t get.. .it hardly ever worked for 3 games yet we do it over and over
we need shump back..
You left out the /s, right?
Lol he just opted in to his 11M contact next year. Clarkson is set to make $12.5M. Not sure who is the lesser of two evils.
I really don’t want to watch the second half of this game…but as a lifelong Cavs fan I feel like I habe to see Lebron play this thing out.
Gotta get up around 0430 and I’m dead tired…might be out for this one…pretty crushing end to the half…
This sucks. LeBron has to play better.
Wrong. love Hill Hood Korver and Green are 3/23. Maybe they need to play better, huh!
I think you’re just making assumptions from the box score and not really watching the game when you included Love there.
No you are being too critical of James. Is Love not on the team?
Did you watch the 1st quarter work by Kevin Love!?
Did you see that Ty Lue put back Love too late in the 2nd quarter!?!?
He’s 2-10 lol.
9 first quarter points
Yea, I guess I don’t understand the finer points of advanced statistics.
He worked hard for loose balls came up aggressive.
I think stats aren’t the end all be all
Hitting an early 3 doesn’t make 2-10 good.
He’s supposed to be a star not a footnote.
Minus Love the other Cavs are 1/13.Yeah, much better
Bron does not want to be the reason this team has to play another game this year.
That last play, Lebron is out. Maybe he’s done.
Yeah, that was half-assed
Too harsh. He scored 17 and is constantly getting doubled in the paint
Watch closer. This is game 5 2010 round 2.
Lebron is gone this is Boston 2010 again….yikes
Jr pump fake it’s foul on McGee….cavs are dumbest team and yet it’s close game…so weird
We can hold ball for final shot and we get a JR blocked 3 with 14 seconds left???? Kill me
Javale McGee is a massive human being
JR is one of the world’sbdumbwst humans.
Maybe JR could’ve faked it before releasing
Lebron is MIA to be honest
B***h move by durant
Nice block TT!!!
LeBron with awful body language every time he has a defensive gaffe
Note to NBA telecasters: Slow mo replays of someone shooting a three pointer is NOT interesting to watch.
Nice play Bron and JR
Time for Lue to try something different. Cedi.
Stop looking for who to blame bron! That Green layup is on you!
Lebrons d has been crap.
Cavs in 7.
Feed K Love the ball!
im really in on the hire hammon plan – force lbj to abandon the first female head coach; dont think hed do it
Getting the Warriors in the penalty and not making the free throws is just a straight recipe for disaster. HAVE to get these free points.
ghill doing his end of game 1 imprrssion
6 missed free throws in a 5 point game
Warriors fouling a lot but we gotta make the free throws!!
Get hill and Tristan out of game put in bench guys that gave you lead
George is putrid in back to back games
Come on! Stop missing freebies!
Find plays for Kev! Reward him. I think he’s still got it going.
arrrrggghhhh. make those 2 bron
After playing great defense the previous play we made a huge lapse for an Iggy 3
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1005268092203814917
Is behind the backboard from Curry as good as an air ball?
the fact that we’re still trapping at all when it leads to a dunk 100% of the time is further proof that this is the worst coaching staff in NBA history…
NICE F*CKING DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!