Live Thread: Cavs @ Knicks, Game 3 NBA Playoffs
2023-04-21Good evening CtB!
The Cavs have ventured to Midtown Manhattan to take on the New York Knicks for game three of the 2023 NBA Playoffs at the historic Madison Square Garden. The Cavs are riding high off of a game two beatdown of the Knicks that saw them adjust and respond well after game one’s embarrassing offensive performance. In game two, Coach J.B. Bickerstaff left Isaac Okoro, Ricky Rubio, and Dean Wade parked on the bench as he let Caris LeVert cook at the combo guard spot and unleashed NBA Champion Danny Green off the bench. The result was damn near perfection on both ends of the court as the Cavs held the Knicks to sub-40% shooting, outrebounded the Knicks 43-36, out-assisted the Knicks 26-16, and nearly put up the magical 50/40/90 shooting splits. The performance was so good that question began anew about whether to make a change to tonight’s starting lineup given Okoro’s obvious inability to make Jalen Brunson pay for hiding on the defensive end. Even one of Okoro’s biggest cheerleaders in cleveland.com’s Chris Fedor has questions about the starting Okoro at this point:
Earlier this season, one #Cavs coach referred to a 5-man group as Cleveland’s death lineup. Darius Garland. Donovan Mitchell. Caris LeVert. Evan Mobley. Jarrett Allen. With how LeVert played in Game 2, is it time to make that the starting lineup again?https://t.co/mZRr7yYpMK
— Chris Fedor (@ChrisFedor) April 21, 2023
For yours truly, the answer is obvious that Okoro should be relegated to bench duty but the question becomes, who should start? Personally any one of Caris LeVert, Cedi Osman, or Danny Green would be acceptable answers to that question, and I still wouldn’t count out Dean Wade from that equation either in spite of his horrible start to the playoffs. The bottom line is, this the NBA playoffs, every possession matters and there’s literally zero reason why Jalen Brunson should be afforded the luxury of relaxing on the defensive end at the expense of the Cavs’ offense. J.B. needs to be ruthless and remorseless for 48 minutes, which means making the Knicks pay for every moment Brunson’s on the court. Here’s some eye-popping stats that bring home the point:
It’s clear what’s lost when Okoro’s on the floor with the starters: rebounding, scoring, and ball movement… all three of which cost the Cavs game one. Yes the defense was excellent, and I have no problem seeing that lineup in spots where it’s needed, but Caris LeVert’s defense was much better still. I’d much rather see Okoro and Cedi Osman as a tandem off the bench that can compensate for each other’s weaknesses, apropos:
Osman and Okoro make for a deadly two man combination off the bench, why it hasn’t been used more is anyone’s guess. Just for fun, let’s throw Dean Wade into the equation and see what happens…
Hmm… what’s this? Osman, Okoro, and Wade are an elite three man grouping? It’s a shame this wasn’t explored more during the regular season.
It’s funny to talk to non-Cavs fans about Isaac Okoro during the regular season and these playoffs, because they universally see the obvious: To this point, Isaac Okoro is not a good NBA player and holds the team back from its full potential. Yet this obvious truth escapes many in Cavs media, fandom, and even the organization itself. Okoro has had three full seasons to show what he’s capable of, and right now he’s a rotation player on a good team, but not a worthy starter. And should the Cavs be good enough to go deeper into these playoffs, Okoro’s weakness in the starting lineup will become even more stark. No player was affected more than Evan Mobley, who’s offense took a leap from game one to game two:
With Randle trapping PnRs, this forced Mobley to attack out of the short roll where he really struggled. Notice how far Hart is able to help off Okoro, forcing Mobley to drive left and into Hartenstein. Knicks did a great job of shrinking the floor pic.twitter.com/4y4RdJyeaO
— Ariel (@APachecoNBA) April 16, 2023
Another short roll opportunity for Mobley and he kicks out to Okoro who puts the ball on the floor and misses over Brunson. Knicks will take this every time and something to watch for as the series goes on pic.twitter.com/FKbGmicZxx
— Ariel (@APachecoNBA) April 16, 2023
What will J.B. do? He said to Fedor in yesterday’s press scrum that he doesn’t plan on making a change, however Bickerstaff also gave Fedor a laughing smirk, the kind a coach gives when they don’t want to divulge any information that might help an opponent… so stay tuned!
PUT THIS ON A LOOP IN THE CAVS’ LOCKER ROOM
LETS. GO. CAVS. pic.twitter.com/54b3vQE92Z
— 🎧 (@RizzMobley) April 21, 2023
Tip off is scheduled for 8:30PM Eastern time and will be broadcast live nationally on ABC, Go Cavs!
12 turnovers in the first half…. never gonna win the game doing that.
I belive the Cavs can hit 70
I don’t.
This definitely rivals the very worst offensive displays of the early Mike Brown-LeBron era, when the team had less offensive talent and played in a lower-pace, less efficient league context.
JB gotta scare the shit out of them. Make them more scared of him than the crowd. Either that everyone gotta make fun of stupid people in the crowd. Just too in their own heads.
MSG crowd has them shook no doubt, i like the fart joke idea LMFAOOOO
Levert needs to be glued to the bench next half.
Who else going help at this rate ?
Donovan: 5/11 FG
JA: 3/3 FG
Mobley: 3/6 FG
DG: 1/12 FG
Caris: 0/6 FG
Get a grip Jesus people LMFAO
He was amazing…you are right.
What a godawful effing game this is. Cavs don’t even look like an NBA team. DG hasn’t played like this since his first couple of deer in the headlights months in the league. But almost everyone has been terrible, top to bottom, back to front.
And yet, they’re in it. They’ll be fine.
Yes, a 3-minute Cavalanche could erase this deficit if they can just take a damn breath and relax!
Garbage. Scared
What do you do a scared team, Greg?
2/20 on 3s, 12 turnovers ?
yup
Ugly
Wow. That was about the worst half I’ve ever seen
Jfc caris wtf
MOBLEY HUSTLE AND PUMP FAKES!
Attaway Mobes
I know they’re young, but not sure why they are “this” shook.
The distance pop-up that espn does on 3 pointers is incredibly dumb.
Caris confidence totally shot now. Double clutching and hesitating. Gotta hang on here until halftime.
I be never seen any playoff team score 30 pts in half.
keep it close and let Donnie Basketball take over in the 4th.
Let’s go Hawks!
needed that bucket by Mobley
Cavs beating thselves. Great post-up Evan.
I just feel physically ill…you simply cannot play a playoff game like this…
Still can win. Knicks playing like garbage too
If we can stay in touch it think we might be able to steal this one late. Just keep it aingle digits ans get DM rest for the 4th.
I like the lineup JB put out there for the timeout, hopefully he lets them cook.
Need to have doubles on Brunson. Can’t let him iso for 15 seconds.
We just totally abandoning the idea of trapping brunson?
No one on this team is ready for this but Mitchell. We kinda knew this might happen.
And JA?
Ok JA.
Cedi let him get back left.
Can’t throw it in the ocean
Not sure how much of this I can watch…
It’s pitiful
Put green back in
Bring in neto. Bench DG for 2 possessions. Get it in his head this is just effing basketball. Totally overwhelmed by the moment right now
It’s all just nerves.
Knicks starting to hit shots
DG cannot play worse than this. Literally cannot.
Good lord Garland. Who are you passing it to?
Mobley coming off the bench
Quite literally was yeah
DM sat for a long spell and game is basically where he left it.
so far it seems like we’re gonna need him
Somebody spike the Gatorade or something
okoro giveth; okoro taketh away
Maybe bring in Captain Hook for some easy buckets 😂
Haha I would both love and hate that
shhh jb watches these threads for ideas! #freeneto?
This is some ugly ball
3 on Hart. Good.
Why are we 3rd graders on the break all of a sudden?
That’s an insult to 3rd graders…
Ugh. Just slow down.
Okoro brain not engaged
Every one just gotta slow down and they’ll be fine.
OK that might be enough of Okoro
Okoro tackled. Hart flops
The transition offense is awful
DG is in his own head. Not good
I was 1000% sure this version of DG would show up in the first half. Hope he calms the nerves
Great play so far by ice.
Just slow down and they got this
GREAT PLAY MOBLEY!
Oof Garland
Just slow down!
Cedi was completely out of control on that break. Stop being dumb.
Wtf cedi
I love that Barrett saw two go down early. Hope he shoots them out of the game
I e trey!
HUGE SHOT ICE!
ICE TREY
Nice, Ice.
Don’t let Barrett go left
There you go ICE
LETS GOOOO GREAT PASSING ICE FOUL
I like getting Mitchell a break but why not neto? All chemistry with ricky left with kevin love
Good point re: Ricky and Love
You are correct sir!
Shoot the ball, Ricky! To Cavs playing afraid to miss.
Sigh. Please don’t do that again, Ricky.
Scrappy bucket. DG!
Gonna be hard to win a close one against both the knicks and the refs. Gotta win by double digits