Live Thread: Cavs vs Hornets
2024-04-14Happy fan appreciation day, Cavs fans. Cleveland wraps up the regular season this afternoon against Charlotte. The Cavs are sitting Mitchell, Garland, Merrill, Caris LeVert, and Dean Wade. No word on the status of Ty Jerome.
The best scenario is Pacers, Cavs, Magic, Knicks win today… The Cavs get the 3 seed vs the Pacers. For Charlotte, well, anyone who was ever good at basketball is not going to be playing today. Enjoy the Cavs playing a team trying to lose. Go Cavs.
Man we could use Nance while DWade is injured. Dude is slick.
Will be watching Ingram with interest. Summarily benched in a crucial contest, visibly unhappy with it. Now coach depends on him with Zion out.
NATE- YOU ARE RIGHT ON BOTH SPOESTRA/ KLOVE
God help us, Cavs staff thought KLove couldn’t contribute in playoff games. Just an epic failure of judgement.
He would have been extremely useful on and off the court, in so many ways.
recall that at the time he was useless on the court, and supposedly a problem off. everyone agrees he has often been a plus for the Heat, but you can’t overlook how he ended with the Cavs.
Bingo. He was acting like a child.
Spoelstra is the best coach in the association, and it’s not close.
Pop is just as good if not better.
Kevin love: the anti-Niang
NBA Champion Kevin Love
Yes!!!!!
Chicago fouls KLove when they have him double teamed. Not smart.
Drummond is such an oaf
Lmfao Drummond
Delon Wright.
GD I miss Kevin love.
Bulls in trouble
Bulls relax cause Jimmy’s out?
Steven A. Smith for 5 seconds. Back to the Guards
Missed the start cause of Guardians game and a late work Friday.
Heat out strong in the 1st. (GO KEV!) Methinks Coby White will not be scoring 42 this time.
OK I AM TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT BULLS BEATING THE HEAT 🤪
Hollinger is picking the Cavs in 6.
He then picks the Celts in 5 vs. the Cavs (which seems legit).
Not entirely sure what to make of this, but here’s a ’23-’24 stat from nba.com that stood out to me . . .
Opponent 3-point percentage when the team’s closest defender is 6+ feet away:
Opponent 3-point percentage when the team’s closest defender is 4-to-6 feet away:
Opponent 3-point percentage when the team’s closest defender is 0-to-4 feet away:
Somehow the Cavs do an unusually poor job of defending three-pointers after they’ve ostensibly established a good defensive position?
It’s dg and spidas lack of size on the perimeter, they can’t bother the shooters.
One thing I’ve noticed this year is that the Cavs are giving up far fewer 3pt foul shots than last year. Obviously, this is partly or mostly due to officiating changes, but I think it’s also because they are executing fly-by contests that don’t risk fouling. Note that I couldn’t find stats on 3-pt fouls. I think those fly-bys don’t bother shooters as much.
I think the 4-6+ ft stats are from Mobley and Jarrett jumping out and contesting 3s.
Also often checking 3-pt-ers are Merrill, Levert, Wade, and sometimes Niang on switches/rotations, and none of them has length to bother shooters. Maybe Caris sometimes.
Really only Strus and Okoro are going to pressure the perimeter.
ALL GOOD POINT s GUYS 👍——- IF BUTLER— (AND SCARY TERRY ) ARE OUT—/ MY MONEY IS STILL ON THE BULLS
Wow Butler is out for a few weeks.
CORRECTION——“ JEOPARDY “ OF NOT PLAYING
BUTLER OUT FOR TOMORROW s GAME/ KNEE: —-BULL s WILL ADVANCE———-BACK IN JANUARY THEY WERE THE LAUGHING STOCK/ NBA ——- WERE HIGHLY CRITICIZED AT TRADE DEADLINE———HOW TIME CHANGE s EVERYTHING———- “ THE “ MRS NOMAD IS STILL WAITING FOR “ MY CHANGE “ TO HAPPEN 🤪🤪
Don’t sleep on the heat. Home field and Coaching advantage.
I agree. The Bulls aren’t exactly world beaters.
Heat with Butler this year: 33-27 (.550%)
Heat without Butler this year: 13-9 (.591%)
Not always helpful to do comparisons with a small sample size–and acknowledging that the playoffs are a different beast–I also believe Heat Culture is somewhat real and the Bulls are somewhat not…
WHERE DOES LEVINE GO THIS SUMMER——— BULL s WILL HAVE TO REDUCE THEIR PRICE ON HIM
I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING ——NATE
Trae is going to get traded to the Lakers this summer unless Deangelo Russell plays out of his mind. The ultimate grifter is gonna get traded to the ultimate grifting teams.
Lots for free throws coming to LAL.
Cavs 4.5 point favorites on Saturday.
Is it too petty to want revenge for 2009?
was that the “Steroid Magic” era when they sent the Cavs home?
Sure was–Turkoglu, Lewis, Nelson, and SuperMan…
The NBA should make it up to the Cavs this year and look the other way while the whole team takes steroids.
hope someone pitches a turkey baster on the floor when the Magic take the floor!
Bulls are gonna be an annoying opponent to deal with on the first round. They have weird size and get to the rim and play pretty solid d.
They’ve been playing better lately. But I’d still give the edge to Miami on Friday.
It depends on Butlers health and also Rozier.
Miami is broken. They cant finish. Chicago is hungry. Although there are no worse paper tigers than the trey led hawks.
Miami almost beat Philly tonight. But anything can happen.
Thats exactly what I mean. They should have beaten philly but they are broken. Tyler Herro cant be their best player
I hate when coaches talk about players going downhill. There are no hills or mountains on the court. It’s all a prairie. Maybe say driving hard through the prairie?!
if you saw LeBron coming your way fast, …
Right down Euclid – which is flat!
😂
WOULD YOU WANT TO PURSUE HUNTER
It depends on what you’d have to give up. I’m not super high on him.
And like clockwork he misses a FT and only has 2 points tonight (halfway thru the 3rd). I’m thinking I’d probably pass on Hunter.
Trey Young is such a turd!
got that right! since Hardin has already claimed the “Golden Turd” title, what is left for Young? maybe the “Tin Turd”?
Drummond takes out Caruso 😂
Hawks need to blow that team up.
Wanna grab Quinn Snyder as the Cavs next coach
I’ll take him
FIRE SPOESTRA 🤪
Philly gonna win this.
Big stop by Miami on Embiid right there
WHAT s WRONG WITH ROZIER
Neck injury
ALOT OF “ MEDIA TALKING HEADS “ ARE SAYING IF THE CAVS LOSE TO THE MAGIC—THERE WILL BE ALOT OF CHANGES——— SPIDA ALSO EMPHASIZED THE PERSONAL IMPORTANCE OF WINNING/ ADVANCING IN THE PLAYOFFS IS TO HIM
that ought to be obvious to anyone!
Cavs will have to put on their big boy pants.
Batum showing up for the Sixers!
What has Batum been taking? Wow.
That Charlotte stretch was an endictment of the entire Jordan era.
Classic Heat game.
Just tuned in… Philly now has the lead.
Heat up 12 in Philly at the half.
Look, I have made it known I feel it is a total loser mentality (and stupid) to tank a game, get a lower seed on purpose, and put yourself on Boston’s side of the bracket, just to avoid the possibility of playing Philly Rd1.
Now, I also feel this loser mentality within the org is one reason we probably going to lose Rd1 no matter who we play (injury to Spida the other).
But I just find it funny that we did all that to avoid Philly and Miami may win anyway. Of course, I’d take Miami over the Cavs as well.
It was to avoid both. The Bucks did the same.
Narrator: Miami did not win.
that is why it makes more sense that the plan was to let the last five guys get some minutes, as the team has said.
76ers —BULLS ——-AND ………. “ MORE 🍺BEER PLEASE “
I’ve got Bulls and Heat winning tonight.
SORRY RAOUL ——-GOING AGAINST YOUR ADVICE 🤪——— BUCKAROO ——-BUCKAROO ——BUCKAROO ——- CTB CALLING FOR YOU 👍🍺👍🤪
Quick! Get a phoenix feather cored holly wand!
3 YEARS LATER—- BASED ON THE PLAYERS PERFORMANCE SO FAR ——- IS MOBES STILL THE CAVS PICK OR POSSIBLY _—-WAGNER / GIDDEY / KUMINGA ——— JUST “ THROWING IT OUT THERE “ ——— DONT THROW ROCKS 🪨 BACK AT ME …… UNLESS IT IS A ROLLING ROCK 👍🍺🤪
pretty sure Kuminga just stunk up the gym last night.
Mobley is fine. Check his trajectory versus Giannis
MATINEE GAME s ARE CAVS “ KRYPTONITE”——-GET SOME REST SIMMO OR VIDEO—— GAURDS WITH BEST WINNING PCT IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 👍👍👍👍
Go Guards!
Warriors are cooked!
Kings overplaying on Steph and Warriors have no one else. Kuminga with an absolute brick.
Klankin Klay so much fun to watch.
loving it!
Woohoo! Kings with a nice lead going into the 4th. Be fun if it holds up.
Cavs play at 1 pm on Saturday
allright — time for the Cavs to put up or shut up!
FFS. Matinee games not ideal for the Aussie fan.
what time will that be for you?
12 hour difference between US ET and Aust WCT…
ouch!
I’d wait until the morning to watch on demand.
Love watching Sabonis going at Green
Meanwhile the Guardians in extra innings.
Guardians are gonna win this.
Man. Lakers close well, but good lord do they get a generous whistle.
Yeah refs rediscovered their regular season whistles and ended the contest. Probably for the best, given Zion’s injury.
AD played a bit like Embiid rolling all over the floor to get whistles.
God that was a real bailout for AD.
Crazy how close those fans are.
Big shot cj. Gotta stop and score.
What happened to Ingram?
Wondering same.
Wow. Bron scores Murphy answers.
Then a brutal turnover by Alvarado, followed by the Pels not taking a foul when they had one to give with a 4-5 disadvantage.
Good lord that was a weak call for LeBron.
I cut away to watch an episode of fallout. Came back to a pretty good game.
Fallout so good.
I just started watching that too!
It’s really good. Love Walton Goggins.
The Lakers flipped the switch!
NOP’s switch on a delay.
I’ve not kept up with CJ’s injury history this year, but he looks as bad as I’ve seen him.
Good to see the Pels make it a game.
And great for Zion that he has been able to perform.
Oh no!!!! Poor guy.
MOCK DRAFT s ALL OVER THE BOARD ON CAVS SELECTION——- I MENTIONED 3 WEEKS AGO—- ALL IN ON DESILVA
LMAO — RAOUL 👍👍
SOMEBODY WAKE UP BUCKAROO —- WE NEED HIS “ WORDS OF WISDOM “ FOR THE PLAYOFFS—— UNCLE BUCK COME HOME 🏡 🙏
don’t say that three times, or he might
“ I AGREE TO AGREE “ —— THEME/ MOTTO I HAVE LEARNED TO EMBRACE BEING MARRIED TO “THE “ MRS NOMAD—-47 YEARS 👍🤪🍺
Feeling good this afternoon about the Orlando matchup. Good week of rest to get ready. Veterans poised to contribute and no obvious especially bad matchups to fret over.
We can do this!
Georges Niang first Cav in five years to play all 82 games.
Orlando is the 7th best offensive rebounding and 2nd best defensive rebounding team in the NBA. Going to be a critical aspect of the matchup – especially following last year’s struggle on the boards vs NYK
From Mike Zavango on Twitter.
From The Athletic: If there was anyone in the NBA who would purposely miss to ensure that fans would go home with a reward, it would be Boban Marjanović, arguably the nicest professional basketball player on the planet, our columnist writes. —- where’s the outrage??? Tanking a game.
Oh because he’s a goofy tall guy that everyone loves he and the Rockets get a pass.
I think the outrage about Cavs tanking final game is WAY overblown. Do I love it? No. Does it really bother me? Again, no.
The way I look at, when you’re driving you sometimes swerve left or right to avoid potholes. So how is this any different??
I don’t get the national media piling on. Hypocrites. And F Joe Vardon. 🤡
The one thing we can all agree on (eff Joe Vardon).
National media loves piling on Cleveland. For example, the total outrage about the Browns signing a wierdo for QB, while Pittsburgh’s QB is raping girls in bar bathrooms and they say “so what?”.
I’m with you. I have an issue with it. I will express my opinion on it, but at the end of the day I still love this stupid team, and as lng as we’re respectful when we disagree, I have no problem with anyone. That being said, Joe Vardon never skips an opportunity to pile on this team.
Apologies if I’m being disrespectful. That wasn’t my intention.
You’re fine. Only one person has described my options as “f***ing stupid” recently.
also agree
Agreed.
I think it is the wrong mentality. And I am less a fan of Altman/JB every day. And the team’s construction.
But it is done now. Maybe we can beat Orlando.
agree