Playoff Live Thread (Game 3: Cavs @ Magic)
2024-04-27Good afternoon, Cavs fans. The Cavs face their old nemesis today: the weekend afternoon game. After the Cavs put up the worst playoff performance in team history, not even 48 hours ago, it will be interesting to see how they come out. If it were me if be breaking into people’s hotel rooms and throwing buckets of ice water on them and running up and down the hall banging on pots and pans this morning just to work everyone up into a frothy ire. The Cavs should be pissed off. If they’re not, well then this series might be over. This isn’t a must win game for them, but they can’t play like they’re under a magic sleeping spell.
The wine and gold will be missing Craig Porter Jr., Dean Wade, and newly injured Ty Jerome while the Magic are at full strength. All I want is for the Cavs to stop talking and start playing. Go Cavs.
Podcap up
Kyrie channeling some 2016 Game 5 energy in the Mavs-Clips game. 38 pts starting from midway through Q2 (right now 105-104 Mavs)
Clips getting it done with an 8 man rotation. Didn’t think they’d make it, but there you go.
GOOD ONE MR STEAL
This video just reminded me of when I went to CLE for Game 5 and had to witness the Knicks fan being soo loud after the game.
https://x.com/natfluential/status/1784678232018526601
SPIDA NEEDS A BRUNSON PERFORMANCE ON TUESDAY 👍👍🙏🙏
The entire team need to have some dawg and fire in them… especially at home for their fans, and play with pride too/
also glad to see that we arent the only ones who got bullied on the glass against the Knicks, they had 15 off rebounds today. Just seems
The Knicks have guys who were super underrated or had to fight for their spot. It’s why Barrett didn’t quite work (and Randle sometimes doesn’t).
DG and Evan haven’t had that type of bracing experience. I would love to bring in a veteran backup 1 and 4. Someone who is a serious threat to bench DG or Evan for without a massive talent downgrade to CPJ or Wade or whoever.
SPIDA HAS TO BE “ SPECIAL “ FOR THE CAVS TO HAVE A CHANCE IN THIS SERIES
KNICKS GOT BRUNSON VIA FREE AGENCY—- DIDNT GIVE UP PLAYERS/ DRAFT PICKS/—— I REALLY LIKE SPIDA BUT BRUNSON HAS OUTPERFORMED HIM THE PAST 2 YRS / PLAYOFFS
All we needed was to put Spidas dad on the coaching staff!
ICE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF MY EARLIER POSTS ——- GAMES ARE DIFFERENT IN JANUARY THAN THEY ARE IN PLAYOFFS/ MEANINGFUL GAMES——JB’s CULTURE “ NICE GUYS “ CANNOT COMPETE IN TOUGH/ PHYSICAL/ MEANINGFUL GAMES——-AM WATCHING THE KNICKS—— PAINS ME TO WATCH “ HARD ROCK “ ATTACK THE BOARDS/ PLAY PHYSICAL “ D”
Funniest outcome would be trading Mitchell to Orlando for prospects, which I would like more than the Dame package
Okoro has 6 TO and has taken 14 total shots in this series, that’s something.
Magic in 6.
Weak organizational mentality. Glass jaws. Flawed model of team construction.
BLOW IT UP! BLOW IT UP! BLOW IT UP!
dumb
YES MAGIC PLAYOFF DEFENSE HAS MUCH TO DO WITH CAVS SHOOTING % ——CAVS HAVE PROVEN THE PAST 2,YEARS WHEN THE GAMES BECOME MEANINGFUL THEY ARE “ SOFT AS CHARMIN” —— CANT HANDLE THE HEAT PRESSURE——-THEY ARE TOO NICE——— WE NEED PLAYERS WITH SOME FIRE WHO ARE GOING TO PLAY “ PISSED OFF “ NOT “ PISSED ON “ 😡
A guy or two who can score with his back to the rim would sure help.
BUCKAROO ALWAYS GOOD HEARING FROM YOU—( YOUR WISDOM ) —-PRETTY MUCH THE SAME——STRESS LEVELS HAVE ME “ CHECKING OUT “ WATCHING THEM LIVE—-NOT ENOUGH…,,” MORE BEER PLEASE “ TO COMPENSATE THE “ IMPLOSION “ OF THE NERVES——-ALOT OF QUESTIONS/ CONCERNS GOING FORWARD WITH THIS FRANCHISE-/EVEN IF WE DO BEAT THE MAGIC———NOT READY TO GIVE UP ON MOBES BUT NEED TO BE REALISTIC OF WHAT HIS SKILL-TALENT LEVEL SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR /— WAGNER/ BANCHERO. HAVE OUTPLAYED HIM SO FAR THIS SERIES——-TUESDAY MIGHT DETERMINE ALOT OF OFF SEASON MOVES—-GO CAVS
this is why i don’t watch.. no hair left to pull out.. uncle buck’s nose is the greatest scheit detector on planet earth.. i smell the stench of another first round exit (after the great obligatory tease, of course).. there is a major malfunction in the system, numnuts (inspired by what fine film ? ).. sad, even when i avoid other than checking the box scores occasionally.. time to fire JB ? trade spida ? start being honest about mobley (not seeing garnett or kd).. how much you gonna pay him ? maybe consider moving on from him as well..… Read more »
3-point shooting in games 3 and 4 vs. ORL:
One surprising, semi-related factoid I learned while looking this up is that Okoro hit 44% of his 3-point shots in home games this past regular season!
Does Orlando’s defense deserve any credit for this?
In part. It’s shared with the Cleveland Cavaliers abdication of their defensive identity. I missed the game live, and have just watched the replay.
My goodness, the 3rd quarter. There’s shooting problems, but you cannot let the opposition waltz to the rim like that.
Not sure how the team come back from this. If the series makes it to seven, maybe they escape … but maybe they shouldn’t.
TY JEROME COMES OFF INJURED LIST AND “ JUMP START s CAVS OFFENSE—-PROPELLING THEM TO 20 PT VICTORY OVER THE MAGIC—I’ M ALLOWED TO DREAM AREN T I 😴
AGREE MR STEAL—- HOPING WE GET THE WIN IN TUESDAY TO INSURE GAME 7 IN CLEVELAND/—— JUST WISH I COULD BE MORE CONFIDENT/ SUPPORTIVE/ POSITIVE FOR THIS TEAM———- I HAVE——-SIMILAR TO THE CAVS —— CHECKED OUT SINCE ALL STAR BREAK ☹️
WHAT IS EVERYONE s EXPECTATIONS FOR THE CAVS HOME GAME——- WILL IT BE A SELL OUT —- WILL THE CROWD BE PUMPED/ SUPPORTIVE?
Expect the crowd to be a lot like the Indiana and Memphis games to close the season. Looking for a reason to believe.
Don’t think they are NY / Philly boo them off the floor types but if we eat a fucking 30 point swing for the 3rd time in 3 games it’s justified
Cavs in 7. That was my thinking before the series started and I’m not backing off it. No matter how putrid they’ve been these last 2 games.
That’s absolutely possible.
They sucked. Magic and Pacers aren’t better and won’t be better next year (new coach and let these young punks sit with how cheap their talk really was) but we are just exhausted and inconsistent.
One stupid thing after another from Allen’s training camp injury.
JB MUST HAVE BEEN ONA “BUZZ “ DURING THE GAME 😡🤪
“ MORE FRIGGIN BEER ….. AND “ THE “ MRS NOMAD PLEASE “ 👍🍺😈
EVEN IF WE SOMEHOW WOULD WIN THIS SERIES 🤪——-THIS TEAM IS NEVER GOING TO COMPETE FOR EVEN AN EASTERN CONFERENCE TITLE/——PACERS / KNICKS / MAGIC ARE ALL GOING TO GET BETTER/ BE BETTER NEXT 3 —5 YEARS——- THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!
no kidding
PLAYING HARD IS AN ADJUSTMENT THAT THE CAVS JUST CANT FIGURE OUT
SO WHICH COACH MADE HALF TIME ADJUSTMENTS AND WHICH DIDN T —————- ONLY POSITIVE I GET ANOTHER NIGHT OF “ RIDDING MY STRESS/ FRUSTRATION “ ——- WITH “ THE “ MRS NOMAD
They didn’t even make a halftime adjustment other than “playing hard.”
Didn’t you hear adjustment is just a buzz word according to JB.
SAD PART WE ARE GOING TO “ SELL LOW “ ON BOTH SPIDA —-DG —/- THEIR STOCK IS DOWN——- WE CAN STILL RECOUP DRAFT PICKS WITH SPIDA—— DG /-NOT SURE WHAT HIS VALUE BRINGS
Might as well just hold until deadline on Spida then. Worked out OK for Toronto
is is way down because his knee is a question mark.
AKA : REFER TO MY FEBRUARY POSTS ( MORE THAN ONCE) —CAVS WOULD NOT GET PAST 1st ROUND——- ALWAYS HOPED I WAS WRONG—- BUT I WASNT 😡😡😡😡😡———“ SOFT AS CHARMIN CAVS “ —-THAT IS WHO THEY ARE—- THEIR IDENTITY 😡😡
The Cavs scoring in the “Core 4” era
2023: 97, 107, 79, 93, 95
2024: 97, 96, 83, 89
9 games: 92.9 ppg
You would need to be the ‘04 Pistons for that to be a model that works. In 2024, that’s a team that gets dismantled in the off-season
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32/120 (26.6%) from deep this series. Not gonna win anything in today’s NBA shooting that way. Remember how we all made fun of the Magic shooting? They have almost as many 3s made in the last 2 games as the Cavs have all series; 25 vs 32.
From twitter..
They need to tear down that dumb “core 4” poster on the Sherwin Williams building. Stupid slogan for an overrated team.
The blame seems to spread everywhere. I am still not convinced they don’t win this series… but that probably means nothing changes for next year, either.
It’s just really hard to go from good to great, doubly so with a young team, triply so without a superstar tent pole like Ja or Luka or Zion. It’s a bummer that Mitchell isn’t quite on that level. OKC may do it. Indiana might if Siakam re signs and everyone takes another leap but you can’t overreact to beating the corpse of the Bucks. Memphis hasn’t done it, Sacto hasn’t done it, Orlando hasn’t done it, New Orleans hasn’t done it, Atlanta hasn’t done it, and it took Minnesota a LONG time to get it right and they won… Read more »
updated 3-point numbers after four games of Cavs-Magic:
Total 3-pointers made:
Magic: 42
Cavs: 32
3-pointers attempted:
Magic: 135
Cavs: 120
3-point shooting percentage:
Magic: 31%
Cavs: 26%
JBs response to this will be to continue to play Merrill 4-6 minutes per game.
https://x.com/sportsboytony/status/1784304128031678706?s=46&t=E8SiRvbZa9K2lria_OU0NQ
Really embarrassing. If I’m Koby, and I keep my job, here’s what I need to do: 1) Fire JB – I wanted him gone after last season. We wasted a whole season of Mitchell with a sub-par coach. Huge mistake by the FO. 2) Salary dump Garland – he’s been bad for a year now. He’s too streaky and makes too many mistakes, not to mention that he’s a liability on D. The team is better when he’s not on the court. Trade him for role players where the salaries match – it doesn’t matter what we get in return.… Read more »
I think it’s too late. I don’t think Mitch re-signs. Koby should get shown the door for this flop. Going to have to trade Mitchell and try to recoup some assets. OKC has a ton of picks. Maybe try to get 2 firsts from them. I guess build Garlands value and send him packing. Have CPJ as your starting PG for now and maybe trade Allen for some assets? This team is far from contending.
Unfortunately, you’re probably right. This was the prove it year with Mitchell (to convince him to stay). Keeping JB basically ensured he’d leave. What a mess.
Exactly.
Mitch will re-sign. You turning down $170 mil contract when u need knee surgery?
Yup. Might move him if/once he shows healthy but he’ll extend.
Action will be around the trade deadline next year bc we’ll have a sense for how much better the team and players are with a new coach and improved health
Trade Allen? Excellent plan: trade your best player for peanuts!
I’m not sure? I just threw it out there since I think they’re far from contending. I’d love to keep him, but I don’t love the Mobley/Allen lineups. And I don’t love the Mitchell/Garland lineups. Just thinking about the roster construction and it needs some serious revamping.
If they are far from contending there’s not a rush to jam a deal into this off-season. Give a new coach the chance to make the roster work: unless we are like 8-20 under a new coach to start or something, next year isn’t going to be a big leap or drop or blow up. It’s still around a 50 win team that will need to prove itself in the post season. See what the MLE and the pick and Caris expiring can bring. Donovan and Darius will hold value and I assume the (ugh) Miami Dame package is available… Read more »
really disappointing. Throw the bag at a new coach, see what’s there for Mitchell if he won’t extend (or I guess Garland, but that could wait a year, no hurry) and be smart, not emotional.
Dan hopefully doesn’t go full Dolan or ATL: no hurry to sell low on anything player-wise.
This team is just too soft. Too many quiet, soft-spoken gentlemen. We need young, strong enforcers with attitudes to compete at this level. They peaked long ago and have no resources to improve since the future was put on hold with the Mitchell trade. I would trade this roster for Orlando’s in a second.
Orlando has 8 top-8 picks on their roster, most teams that suck forever are pretty talented.
I really can’t wait till our clown coach is fired. Also Dan should fire Korby for letting this putz continue to coach this team. Worst coach in the association. Peace out MItchell! Maybe we can stretch and waive DG while we are at it.
Driving up to attend Game 5. Really hoping that turns out to be much more entertaining than these road games.
Hope so too.. Last year I flew to Cleveland to watch my first NBA game for Game and we all know how that went, so that was a bust.. Hope Game 5 is full of good energy and a win for the home crowd.
Cavs in this series:
Cavs:
Game 1: 97 pts
Game 2: 96 pts
Game 3: 83 pts
Game 4: 89 pts
Magic:
Game 1: 83 pts
Game 2: 86 pts
Game 3: 121 pts
Game 4: 112 pts
Giving up 25-35 pts on the road while actually scoring fewer pts than your home games and not even reaching 90 pts is just horrible.
I’m changing my prediction. Magic in 6.
Want to backtrack, if you did stay away from this game, you made the right call.
I didn’t watch but kept an eye on the score and saw all the comments in this thread.
I really expected that this would be the bounce back game. I’m frankly stunned.
I’m not all that surprised. Especially after I heard JB claim that “adjustments” are just buzz words and players need to play better. F’ing moron. He’s only a coach because of nepotism, and his dad was a shit coach too.
Tristan’s shot looking better than Mobleys at this point.
I’m honestly over the Cavs right now.. just going to start getting hyped for WNBA season.. Les’s disappointments
I’m able to enjoy WNBA more freely honestly. Not attached to any one team. Able to enjoy front-running / watching the best players.
Who are the players you enjoy watching ?
Aja Wilson/Chelsea Gray/ Kelsey Plum (the Aces in general are all awesome). Breanna Stewart is probably my favorite all around player. Natasha Cloud and Jewell Lloyd are fun gutsy players. Honestly whatever matchups get put on national tv are worth watching.
Aces are my top and seeing Skylar Diggins and Nneka joining Jewell in Seattle, will love to see how they play. Really like Natasha’s dawg mentality and curious to see how she fits in with Kaleah Copper and the rest in Phoenix. It’s going to be a great WNBA season.
I’ve never seen anything like that quarter. It’s one thing for it to happen. It’s another thing for the coach to sit there and let it happen.
Over the last two games in Orlando, the Cavaliers have been outscored 72-26 in the 3rd quarter.
72-26. (- 46)
#Cavs (From twitter)
#Cavs have been outscored 51-15 in the first 17 minutes of the second half.
Why is Mitchell still out there?
I was just thinking that.. just empty the bench at this point.
https://x.com/HammerNation19/status/1784298373308207600
We are still on serve for the series
Why is Allen on the bench? I don’t understand.
This is a team that has lost all comfidence in its head coach. There is no leadership right now.
If Cavs can’t handle a Wagner (29 pts)… they can’t beat anyone else who are actually all stars.
We have no answer for Wagner whatsoever.
We do. It’s called playing Allen. They sat him when they couldn’t afford to
Maybe another 40 point drubbing.
JFC.
DG misses alone at the rim.
Garland is just terrible. The Cavs aren’t going anywhere with him and his max contract weighing down this roster.
Is that the worst Cavs quarter in playoff history
Honestly, considering the competitition (not exactly the ‘93 Bulls or Steph-KD Warriors), that may be legit.
Cavs in the 3rd:
2/7 in the paint
2/10 from 3
0/2 midrange
4/19 overall (21%)
Magic:
6/10 in the paint
6/9 from 3
1/2 midrange
13/22 overall (59%)
I don’t even think JB called a TO that entire endless run. Darius did once to avoid getting stripped of the ball.
When you’re minus 27 for the quarter that might’ve been a good idea.
Looking forward to maxing out Mobley to compliment Garland
Both weak af charmin soft
The way Mobley is playing on offense near the basket makes me want to use words I thought I was too enlightened to use.
Wait – did they just get outscored by 27 in one quarter?! 🤦🏽♂️
Bit of a dry spell.
Ha!
37-10 third quarter. Just wow
The Collapse?
JB for prison.
Get Niang off the floor.
Cavs are a joke seriously.. 10 pts in the quarter after being up 9 at the half and giving up 33 pts.?
JFC. This is pathetic.
JB gonna live and die on Niang Hill.
Haha! I need a chuckle right now. Geez.
Composure
DM needs to initiate the offense. Nearly every time
Just need some JA play right now.. mobley is a no show right now.
20-5 run by the Magic.
Critical time in the game.
14 was manageable but now it’s 20 and they can’t score.
Mobley. Just stop.
Come on Mobley!
OMG that’s one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen.
DM has a right to to run without someone trying trun into him and flop.
Yes – announcers not even acknowledging it should have been a no-call if anything, not a foul on Donovan.
Or an Orlando foul