Live Thread: Cavs Vs Thunder
2015-01-25Dion Waiters is coming to Cleveland to battle against LeBron James and the Cavaliers today. Except, Dion probably wouldn’t phrase it that way. He would say Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook are going into the King’s house.
Waiters seems to have found a spot on the Thunder. He knows he isn’t better than their two stars. On the Cavs, Dion often stated and showed in subtle ways he thought he was better than Kyrie Irving. He may have been at times, but the way he manifested this attitude was by taking ill-thought shots, sulking, and demanding the ball from everyone to make up for perceived slights.
I’m not sure why Dion has fallen in line. Even in his first game with the Thunder against the Jazz, he did what he was asked to do so well that Scott Brooks praised his defense and tenacity. How often did that happen in Cleveland outside of myself and a few bloggers really wanting a legitimate reason to love Dion so much?
Maybe, Dion needed a star point guard to be older than him. Russell is three years older than him, while Kyrie is one year younger than him. Or, and this is the theory I’m pushing, Saint Weirdo is like a spoiled puppy. Starting his career in Cleveland, he was indulged. No one told him “no” very forcefully when he was acting out, and that let him develop some really bad habits. His housemates in Cleveland were all his. When people came into his team’s place, he showed off. “Look at this bad shot I’m taking with MY ball. I’ll even take it off balance to show more autonomy.”
Now, he’s in a new unfamiliar place and isn’t acting out as much. I’m reminded of when I was just ten years old, and my older sister got a little Sharpei puppy. She was caramel and if you listened to my sister, each one of her wrinkles contained a new way to cause household damage. Yet, whenever my sister visited my mom and me with her puppy, the little dog was never terrible. A quick gaze her way and whatever shoe she wanted to chew was instantly forgotten. Kevin Durant’s gaze is doing that to Waiters.
This change of scenery is working for Dion, and he seems happy. I mean, “Listen, they give [him] the ball. Like, [he touches] the ball. Like, [he] actually, like, you know, [touches] the ball.” [Darnell Mayberry]
And, honestly, I’m not even sure he is touching the ball more. He’s just in a better mental spot not feeling like this team is his and something that he needs to show off for.
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The Cavs are a lot like the Thunder. Andrew Sharp of Grantland tried to make that case during the week, and he had some good points throughout his piece: Both have coaches on the “hot seat,” they have big men that are offensively challenged, have made some questionable trades (James Harden/Andrew Wiggins), have offenses that lack structure, etc…
However, I can’t help but wanting to scream, “The Cavs are just three months old.” The Thunder and Cavs aren’t alike. The Thunder have had these above mentioned issues for years now. They’ve never had an offense. The Cavs can still reasonably say words like “process” without entire flocks of bloggers jumping into a river.
Yeah, the Cavs have problems, but coach wise, the two teams are very different. Sharp says that the pair differ in the sense that Blatt has a complex offense the team doesn’t run and Scott has a non complex offense. No, Scott has a reasonably normal offense, it’s just very poor given that he has two top ten players. It doesn’t utilize them correctly because a seven footer who can dribble shouldn’t be forced to the perimeter in crunch time. The Thunder listen to Scott and run his defense how he wants it to be run. It just stinks.
The Cavs, however, aside from the past four games, have not been executing what Mr. Blatt wants, so they have looked bad without Blatt’s help. I don’t know what Blatt’s offense looks like; although, I’ve seen glimpses of it watching the second unit swing the ball around. It looks pretty smooth. Defensively, Blatt has completely revamped the scheme, and the Cavs have been a top five defense, statistically, the past three games.
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And, finally, the biggest difference between the Thunder and the Cavs is the fact that the Cavs offense is just rounding into “top offense without running plays” status. The Thunder are statistically there. Both of these teams thrive in transition. They’re full of smart, agile guys, that can instinctively do damage on the break.
For the whole season, the Thunder are ranked 13th in fast break points, and the Cavs are ranked 17th. During the past three games though, the Cavs are fourth in transition points and the Thunder are seventh. The Thunder were sixth last season, so this says that their offense is pretty much reaching where it was last year. The Cavs are just rounding into what they might be, and while some may say that talent-wise the Thunder are better than Cleveland, I’d like to think that Cleveland can make up for that through coaching. The coaching just has to be accepted by the team. I don’t think Blatt has called for any of the Le-Iso plays so far this season.
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I’m picking the Cavs to win today, 109-101. Dion will take two ill-advised mid-range jumpers, but he will play insane defense on Kyrie Irving trying to shut him down. I expect Kyrie to do the same to Dion.
Good defense by Delly on Westbrook, forced a bad shot, then Irving to close it out for the 3rd!!!
WAY TO FINISH THE QUARTER GUYS!
GREAT DELLY TREY TO BEAT THE CLOCK! Nice extra pass by Kyire!
Delly Trey!
KLOVE!!! Making up for stepping out of bounds a minute or so ago!
DELLY FOR THREE!!!!
But love makes the three ball
nice pass Irving!!! Love again for 3!!!
Wow! Nice fakeout by Kyrie right there
Marion not playing much tonight, after a nice game the other night.
Good point Nate, he was in earlier when they were playing good D.
Would be funny if he had the DNP-coaches decision, old
Damn good action to Love, couldn’t make the bank shot lay up.
Forgot to write about how Kyrie lost $9 million by not being named an all-star starter.
The extra money would count against cap would it?
Could be wrong, but this really feels like it’s going to come down to an LBJ vs Durant fourth quarter duel… They both have 22 and are resting on the bench for the final push…
I was thinking the same thing.
Dion screams “And1,” Austin screams louder “GET THAT WEAK STUFF OUTTA HERE!”
So he did scream and 1. Oy.
I heard TT scream “AND STAY OUT!” at Dion…
THOMPSON outta here!!!!! Skyin for that block
Dion still getting blocked at rim. Didn’t hear the and 1 yell
TT rejecting Dion. Kind of looked like a goaltend. Hope they don’t change it.
CANADIAN DYNAMITE GET THAT WEAK STUFFF OUUTTTTTAAAA HEEEEEEEEERRRRREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
TT said, “AND 1!”
Wow get that out of here dion!
Good defense here by Delly and TT!!!
Really bad three from Kyrie, but awesome board from TT and then KLove steps out of bounds… Must mean KLove is about to sink another three soon…
HAHAHA… Had he not done that, looked like he had a 3 lined up!
Thought that was on Tristan a little there. Love in the corner wasn’t the best option there. Just reset the offense.
A lot of WTF offense going on!
Pretty drive from Kyrie
Turrible call. Jus turrible.
Yuck… Kyrie should know better than to foul the three point shooter…. smh
Good ball denial by Delly, stupid to foul Westbrook on a 3.
While you don’t have to guard Dion on the corner three… you kinda have to guard Westbrook in the other corner…
Really poor defensive discipline there.
Oy. Timeout
Get J.R. out of there.
Finally seeing a bit of “bad JR” this half…
That JR shot felt very St. Weirdish.
Shouldn’t that have been a clear path foul?
No cause there were other defenders between Kyrie and the bucket.
Cavs hanging on to the lead despite getting outplayed this quarter.
Yes sir, need some stops, clamp down on D.
Has Lebron taken a shot this quarter?
J.R. with really nice D on Westbrook. Leads to a Love three!
KLOVE! Great to see him hitting when it matters!
Absolutely that was such a big bucket!
Love gettin some love!!!
This whole narrative about the Cavs not involving Love enough into the offense I feel is inaccurate. Now, obviously they cannot run the offense through him literally as Minnesota did. But I think he needs to do a better job contributing through the opportunities he has. Starting with getting his shot back.
But definitely, his defensive effort has gone up since Mozgov has been on his side.
Refs really suck today.
Nice charge taken by weak armed Rob Lowe
Sheesh. LeBron missed a wide open Mozgov on that roll.
OKC defense tightening up. Cavs out of position.
Is it me, or does Ibaka have the most irrational confidence of any big man in the game?
J.R. CHUCKING.
Bad JR shot that time…
Bad shot by Irving too…. should’ve passed it to Mozgov. Nice play by KLove!!
Nice timeout play there, OKC.
Morrow looks like Lance Stevenson’s cousin…
As much I am dissapointed in Love and think he is weak, he continues to play with effort. No doubt about that.
Did we get the scrawny armed Rob Lowe in the Wiggins trade?
LOL.
Rob Lowe, Obama trolling D-Bag.
I kinda miss Super Creepy Rob Lowe though…
In the words of Fred McCleod, “Love… Needs it… Gets it!!!”
HAHAHAHA… I enjoy McCleodd and AC!
THERE’S SOME REDEMPTION FOR KLOVE!
He’s now hit nice shots on at least two occasions immediately after messing up in some way.
TIMEOUT! Or not…
Nice set play, Irving attacks for a nice lay up.
Love completely ruined that possession…
He made up for it!
Love for three. “There’s a price to pay when you wait on Love.”
Despite the sloppiness – still up by 7.
Really sloppy basketball here!
Post up time for K Love… for real!
Cavs settling for too many threes.
Perkins not only creamed Moz in the face, he caught him by the shoulder and flung him down.
Perkins is a dirty scrub!
Perkins now just taking cheap shots up and down the floor on Moz. He really should be ejected
Wow. Cavs got effed by the refs on that exchange.
These refs are once again a complete joke…
Perkins should be ejected
Great pass by KLove! Jeff VanGundy makes a good point, K Love willing to pass even though he doesn’t have his shot attempts.
Yeah that’s a flagrant on scrub Perkins.
How the HECK did Kyrie blow that break??
Cavs looking sloppy here to start the second.
OH SURE! CALL THAT MOVING SCREEN REF!
Terrible call on Moz… WTF?
THAT’S a moving screen on Moz? Sheesh.
That stretch where the Thunder went small, and Cleveland didn’t was the difference in the game. Tristan’s ability to guard perimeter players (aside from Collins’ ignorance of TT’s ability in that area) really helped neutralize that tactic. Cleveland killed them on the offensive boards then.