
Live Thread: Cavs @ Lakers (#OnceMoreWithFeeling?)
2016-03-10The first time I ever witnessed LeBron and Kobe square off in person was Christmas Day, 2009, at the Staples Center in downtown Los Angeles. Sure, I’d seen them go King mano y Mamba several times before on national TV, but that was the first live experience I’d ever had in the presence of these two giants of the game. They didn’t disappoint.
In a matchup of the two early favorites to reach the Finals that season, LeBron scored 26 points with nine assists, and Kobe racked up a near triple double with 35 points, 10 rebounds and eight assists. Of course, it took Kobe 33 shots and 45 minutes on the floor, and Bron had seven turnovers in his 41 minutes of play… but that didn’t impact my enjoyment. In the end, LBJ was able to lead the Cavs to a signature victory over Los Angeles on their home floor, 102-87, in a game marred by five Laker technical fouls, a Lamar Odom ejection, and an unruly crowd who spent much of the second half showering the court with yellow foam hands (in the shape of “LA” commemorating Nike’s infamous Kobe and LeBron puppet campaign) and plastic bottles.
Many (myself included) thought this game would be a precursor to a wild meeting in the 2010 Finals between these two icons and their respective teams (including Nike… thus the puppet promotion). Alas, the Boston Celtics, Bron’s elbow (and possibly his will) ensured that meeting — perhaps the best chance for a Kobe/LeBron playoff face-off — did not come to fruition. Even though every Finals since 2007 has featured either the King or the Mamba… they’ve never faced each other. They have been the proverbial ships passing in the night. And now, with Kobe on his farewell tour, and the once mighty Lakers reduced to cellar dwellers, this clash of titans will unfortunately never be.
So, this is the last time these two legends will square off and share the same hardwood in a game that matters… or is it? One report earlier in the day stated that Byron Scott doesn’t know if Kobe and his ailing shoulder will be able to go tonight.
Byron still not sure if Kobe (shoulder) will play tonight vs. Cleveland.
— Mike Bresnahan (@Mike_Bresnahan) March 10, 2016
Hopefully, the Lakers’ medical staff has enough duct tape and painkillers to get the Mamba through one last tete a tete with his replacement as the face of the NBA (at least until the inevitable Steph Curry takeover). Otherwise, this year’s embarrassment of an All Star Game will be remembered as the final time LeBron and Kobe went one-on-one with the world watching.
For his part, James has said he is looking forward to this last opportunity to face Kobe…
“I think it’ll be very emotional and very fun,” James said. “Obviously I want to win and he wants to win, too. But some things about that will be much bigger than a win or a loss … just to be able to see him and know it’s his last go-round. I don’t know. It won’t really make sense next year when you see the Lakers and you don’t see Kobe in a uniform. Twenty years, 13 out of my career. It’s almost half of my life I’ve seen him in a Lakers uniform as a professional. It’s going to be pretty weird.”
Yes, there is still an actual game to be played between the Cavs and the Lakers tonight. The Cavs are coming off a somewhat cathartic win against a mess of a Sacramento Kings team. After spending about 45 minutes doing yo-yo tricks with the Kings, the Cavs finally put them away following Kevin Love’s transcendent four-point Banana Republic in the tailpipe shot. Galvanization ensued, and the Cavs pulled away for a nine point victory.
The Lakers, with Lord Byron “Grumpy” Scott walking the line between allowing his youngsters to flourish and tanking just enough so L.A. doesn’t have to forfeit it’s upcoming lottery pick, have played some of their best games lately, including taking down the reigning champs. On Sunday, they set a record by becoming the first team with a sub .200 winning percentage to defeat a team with an over .900 winning percentage, when they dismantled the Golden State Warriors 112-95 in the largest upset in NBA history. Two nights later, D’Angelo Russell, Jordan Clarkson and Julius Randle scored a combined 74 points in a convincing win over the Orlando Magic, becoming the youngest trio of Lakers to ever score 20+ points each in a game. Given how these young guys have geared up for some of the League’s elite, the Cavs will need to be very careful this second night of yet another back-to-back doesn’t turn into a trap…
For the Cavs, Timofey Mozgov is still questionable with an illness, and Mo Williams is still out with his unspecified knee issue. For the Lakers, Kobe is probable, and Lou Williams is doubtful. It’s another late night start for you East Coasters (10:30 p.m. EST/7:30 p.m. PST). The action is nationally televised on TNT.
Prediction: LeBron hugs Kobe a minimum of three times during the evening, and the Cavs survive a spirited onslaught by the Laker youth brigade to keep rolling on the road, 117-113. No foam hands are thrown in anger…
UPDATE…
Ty Lue says Timofey Mozgov will play but come off the bench. Tristan starting for Timo, Channing Frye starting for Kevin Love
— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) March 11, 2016
ALSO…
Kobe Bryant (shoulder) will play tonight in his final game against LeBron James and #Cavs on TNT.
— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) March 11, 2016
LeBron is knocking over Lakers like bowling pins.
Cam Newton bought Pharrell’s hat from four years ago…
Or maybe just found it in a dumpster…
Bwahhaa!!! Comment of the night. Nice.
The LeB offense isn’t going so well.
They stopped actually caring about 10 minutes ago…
Moz is just so uncoordinated sometimes… okay… most of the time…
Moz just tried to get a piggy back ride from Bass!
Moz is so incredibly long. He almost balanced on Bass’s shoulder like a see-saw
I was rooting for that Kobe three to fall…
Is that accurate? Only 3 of the last thirteen seasons had finals without Lebron and Kobe? That’s insane
Yes… completely true…
It is accurate. But not a single year where they faced each other. freaking PED pumping Magic
Kobe, I guess, has outplayed Lebron, but too bad that doesn’t mean a whole lot…
Just like Christmas Day 2009…
JR just did a complete spin…
If the shot fell that would of been a vine to keep
I hate the Magic. What a complete nuisance they were in 2009. Would have been the greatest show ever.
PEDs ruin lives…
LBJ returns to storybook it with Mamba…
Why is Kobe shooting 3 FTs?
Mozgov lane violation… wah wah
Veteran’s lane violation.
18 time All-Stars get 3 to make 2….
If you’re old enough to remember, the NBA used to have a 3 to make 2 rule…nothing like watching coked out, washed up ‘stars’ going up there and clanking 3 misses….
Kyrie torching Huertas like he’s made out of marshmallows…
Oh yes Mozzy playing some d
Love that wiggle to the hole.
He got the euro step down.
Honestly…can we tell Kyrie it is ALWAYS the 4th quarter?!
WOW… Kobe returns!
Kobe grabs his crutches and comes off the bench one last time.
Kyrie definitely looks like his shooting touch has returned…
Kyrie is shooting 41% from 3 over the past 7 games. Starting to regain consistency with it.
Fervently hoping once he feels his O game is back he can then expend more energy on D. If he can’t lift on D, then we need him to be an ice-cold killer at the other end….looks like he’s on his way.
Kyrie-Delly-JR-Lebron-Mozzy
Obviously Mozzy has to be playing well, but when he does, I think that is the Cavs death line up
Tristan instead of Mozgov. The whole point is to be able to switch anything, and Mozzy is not a good candidate for that.
This is where Kyrie thrives… ISO ball with second unit…
Sort of like the first four years of his career.
Sort of what I was thinking…he’s at his best when he puts on blinders, and just tries to score one on three every time down…
Perfect place for it. I’m not against it anytime if it works, but this is prolly the best time.
Champ just turned out the lights on this game….
JAMES FREAKING JONES!
Kyrie dribbles like no there that was sweet
Here comes the Blatt/Lue graphic…
Followed by the obligatory Tweets convo…
National game, they gotta bring it up. Especially in a lopsided game, when Kobe and Lebron are on the bench? Oh yea, bring on the juicy stuff.
Mozzy is a foul machine lately…
Why do we continue to back off Huertas in the lane?
He’s got the Spanish Fever!
Cause the scouting report said he’s a 32 year old rookie… LOL
Hey! Mozgov scored…
Cavs death line up is in.
Any lineup without Lebron is not the Cavs ‘death’ lineup…
I guess I needed to include the /s
Ah, you meant the reverse death lineup, lol.
death-of-cavs line up
I know that our unofficial magic number for assists is 23 (?). Is there an equivalent benchmark for number of threes or three point percentage for the Cavs? Against the Grizzlies, we shot poorly –> lose. Tonight, shoot well –> win?
thats a great question! But I don’t have an answer. Just kudos on the question tho
I think anytime you shoot 50% from three, you’re probably going to win… ;)
And shoot over 30
64% shooting for the lakers this qtr. Uggh.
And they’re still down by 13…
But could be down 25.
They are just that explosive on offense…
Shump has become a permanent negative on the offensive end
Kyrie coming in for his defense.
Wow… that was a dumb foul by MWP…
The no calls for this team remind me of the blatant NBA preference during the Kings Lakers ecf in either 2001 or 2002.
The Cavs get a ridiculous amount of calls. Do they get them all, well no. And ref’s always miss calls for both teams, but in the end, the Cavs are way on the plus side.
Not sure with the amount of LBJ non calls on drives anymore. Also JR regularly gets shafted.
Kind of agree on both, but Lebron NEVER gets called for a foul on defense, and KLove gets a ton of calls in the paint.
Sure it is relative. Again a problem with the Stern era and especially the 90s was the star system. The best teams get the most calls now. It seems to be based off general popularity in the NBA mraket. Look at the amount the warriors are allowed to get away with, even against the cavs, or the bulls of the 90s, lakers of the early 2000s, Spurs on d throughout the 2000s. Looking at you Draymond with those moving screens and all the perimeter hand checks by the GS guards and forwards.
I’m not really mad at GS for doing it, so much as I wish the Cavs WOULD use these tactics. Especially the stuff Bogut pulls, and gets away with.
I completely agree. Just based off on our games with them, I do not think we get away with it though. Certainly if JR or even Delly tries to check Curry beyond the 3 we probably get called for fouls.
Sorry, WCF. Was the most blatantly biased officiating i had ever, and have ever seen.
Not sure why this wasn’t an and one…
I still can’t believe that Ron Artest changed his name to Metta World Peace…
… or that he’s still in the league…
Or that he ran into the stands and beat up a fan.
Or that he once played in a pick up game where some dude died from getting a table leg to the chest…
Ok you win, lol.
Okay, maybe Delly v. Huertas could be the undercard for Bron v. Kobe…
I realize Frye won’t always play like this, but it’s pretty clear that he can give us a unique dimension for stretches. And he is a great insurance policy for a Love injury. Impressed with IQ. Clear weakness: incredibly slow feet.
He’s also got 7 boards which is pretty nice…
Kev’s feet are just as slow.
All Kev has on him is a post game and Kev is a better re-bounder.
And more consistent. When Frye is cold, he is useless. Kev still rebounds, passes, is low post threat etc.
But Frye is kind of the ideal backup for our O.
I’m just glad he’s finally getting some playing time…
He’s not always gonna hit 5-7 from 3, but he is, much like Delly, a great catch and shoot 3 point shooter. Perfect for the Cavs offense.
He’s put the ball on the floor a couple of times too…
Frye may actually be a better catch and shoot 3 point shooter. Love needs to get his hands on the ball and post up first to establish rhythm before he cans start hitting outside. Frye comes in just ready to shoot since he knows that’s all he brings.
DELLA VE DOVA!!!
I love how hard these two pronounce his name!
Like that people actually recognize his effectiveness this season. Then again, when you are a 6th or 7th man than shoots 43% from 3, it is kind of hard to deny.
Delly Trey!!!!!!
Shump reverting to airballs.
At least Kobe bailed them out with the foul…
Delly v. Huertas is sort of a mini Bron v. Kobe…
Jesus, Kyrie has absolutely no f’ing idea how to use a screen. I’m not even necessarily talking about a PnR. He is just awful trying to come off a pick.
He scores off of most screens in spite of himself most times.
True, instead of coming hard and tight off of it and positioning his defender to run into it he just kind of crosses over usually or if he doesn’t snake it kind of jogs around it. The last few games though he hasn’t at least snaked it as much and has made some pretty decent passes to the roll man.
I think he knows… he just chooses not to use them…
He ends up running into the pg who’s already checking him, AND the screeners man too. He can’t really want to be doing this all the time, I mean, they don’t grade buckets on degree of difficulty…
JR with a good challenge on D followed by a 3 at the other end.
Kobe with maybe his game of the year so far… Lakers still down 10…
Thank god JR got that back!
Russell has a real quick release. Looks like Curry shooting those 3s.
That foul right there by Frye, hitting the guy to stop an easy two, Love barely ever does that
Smart foul by Frye…
Kobe like it’s 2009…
Yep, he is shooting well. We would have called that an awful shot by KY and LBJ. It is a shot the spurs even back in then would have given him. Thankfully the game has moved beyond nonsense fadeaway hero 2s like that for the most part.
Do not blame Lue at all for that TO. Clean up the sloppiness. Make the pass if it is there and look elsewhere if it isn’t.
JR gone SWISHIN!
He seemed to be struggling last night and at the start tonight, but he’s still hit 6-14 3’s both games. Very rare for him to not hit anything for the whole game. Unfortunately Memphis was one such game.
DEEP FRYER COOKIN’
The Lakers did not get the scouting report on Frye. They must have game-planned for Love.
Kyrie’s handles ain’t all that this year. Way too many turnovers that can be attributed to his dribbling.
Seems like it, that’s for sure.
He’s got exactly one turnover tonight…
Well I said it after his turnover, and was making a statement about this year. His dribbling and driving to the hole hasn’t been up to his usual IMO.
Good things happen when you cut down the lane…
Overall, play like we need to win this game and preferably get rest in the 4th. No more breakdowns or charity on d. Amp it up in the 3rd and take care of business. Break them down clinically by executing the new sets we have seen and lock in on d and it will be over. Forget the hype of the matchup and think spurs mentality.
Bryant letting LeBron beat him down the court for a transition 3 is actually pretty effective D.
Kobe turning back the clock!
LBJ got baited into a three that time…
I think kyrie has his shot again, yes?
Kobe staying warm…
Kyrie’s shot is really looking pretty…
– We need to stop making Huertas look like Steve Nash. Need to clean up the defense overall.
– Take better care of the ball.
– Attack the rim more this half.
They’re probably saying the same thing about Frye…
Kobe is playing his time like its game 7 of the playoffs. Lebron is mostly in chill mode. Where are your seats EG? Ill wave.
Wish I was there… going to Clips game Sunday since it was a much cheaper ticket…
Tell me about it, lol
Scheduling is pretty nice here. Two days off after tonight and the next game is right here in the Staples center. Some nice days in LA for the guys.
They’re all coming over to my house on Saturday…
I think this is reason to worry, lol. A Sunday 12:30 pm LA time day game, after a Friday and Saturday nights in Los Angeles? Somebody keep an eye on JR….
Cavs hit 10-19 from 3, and ‘only’ up 9. Giving up 55% shooting will do that though. Can’t wait for the playoffs.
55% shooting. Exhibition game. Kobe retirement tour. What do we expect. Kind of miss the animosity of the 80s and 90s. I would say 60s and 70s but I wasn’t around then, only read about it and seen the occasional replay from playoffs of those Boston or Wilt teams.
Would love to see some devastating ball and player movement right off the bat in the third. Lakers are undisciplined on d and we need to rest guys in the fourth.
We don’t play till Sunday and it’s in the same building. They can rest when they’re dead…
Kobe hit more than usual of his typically inefficient fadeaway 2s, whatever. Still too much dribble and p and r penetration in the first half.