Live Thread: Cavs vs Nuggets
2021-02-19Bonus basketball, folks. The Nuggets are in town, on a quick reschedule after the Spurs game was postponed, Wednesday.
Injury Report for tonight:
-Delly: OUT
-Love: OUT
-Drummond: OUT
-Nance Jr: OUT
-Prince: OUTCavs still without Prince tonight against the Nuggets
— Cavs Lead (@CavsLead) February 19, 2021
Cleveland will start Cedi Osman at the four. Meanwhile, the Denver lineup will be without Gary Harris and Paul Millsap and the questionable Will Barton appears to be starting. We shall see if the Cavs’ shot selection and time off has helped their spirit, or if they really are the worst team in the association right now.
Oh, I am not giving up on Okoro. WAAAY to early for that. His play does not merit a starting spot, however. Prince and Osman are both far superior. Not to mention LNJ. Perhaps even Windler, who is more well rounded.
When the coach preaches playing guys who impact winning and then plays guys who are clearly inferior to the guys on the bench, AND the teams performs poorly, you risk losing everyone. If the team is winning, guys will bite the bullet. But losing 11 of 12? Not so much.
THANKS JASON—-THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FROM ICE —BUT DON’T GIVE UP ON HIM —-BELIEVE NEXT YEAR WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR HIM
LEO AGREE WITH ALOT OF WHAT YOU SAY—-YEAH PLAY MORE ZONE –WTF COULD IT HURT—-GUYS KNOW THEIR POSITIONS / ROTATIONS / MUCH EASIER / BETTER —OTHER TEAMS ARE KILLING US WITH THE 3 BALL RIGHT NOW SO IT CAN’T GET ANY WORSE —–YEP QUIT ‘MILKING ‘ THE INJURIES // 8-10 MIN’S COULD HELP SOMEWHAT ———-OK JASON YOU ARE UP IT IS OFFICIALLY TIME TO START REVIEWING THIS YEARS DRAFTS
I was high on Okoro, so don’t rely on me!
Actually, my guy was Haliburton, but when it became obvious we would not take him, I switched to Okongwu/Okoro.
If we had a higher pick, I might have gone Wiseman. I’d have avoided Edwards. Ball in the middle.
This year? The G league guys are a mystery to me. I tend towards guys who are good basketball players over guys who are great athletes.
For now, Suggs & Cunningham.
Oh, I am not giving up on Okoro. WAAAY to early for that. His play does not merit a starting spot, however. Prince and Osman are both far superior. Not to mention LNJ. Perhaps even Windler, who is more well rounded.
When the coach preaches playing guys who impact winning and then plays guys who are clearly inferior to the guys on the bench, AND the teams performs poorly, you risk losing everyone. If the team is winning, guys will bite the bullet. But losing 11 of 12? Not so much.
I read that Murray’s 50 was the 2nd most efficient 50 point game ever in terms of FG%. Trailing only an 87% FG% game from Wilt in 1967.
Watched this off/on last night between other shows I would rather watch. Its the same thing with this team and if nothing changes, I don’t expect much difference to be made. Again this team needs to play zone because they constantly leave guys wide open and a zone prevents that. The injuries are getting a bit brutal. Love should really come back and play, even if its 8-10 minutes. Cavs are milking injuries big time this year and I really don’t know the reason why. If they are really tanking, whats the difference, just play your guys limited minutes. Will… Read more »
EPM data up to date:
Allen +2.7, #38
LNJ +1.0, #102
Dre +0.7, #116
Sexton -1.0, #214
Prince -1.3, #227
Cedi -1.5, #236
McGee -1.8, #260
Dotson -2.0, #275
Windler -2.7, #310
DG -2.7, #311
Stevens -2.7 #316
Wade -3.1, #345
Okoro -4.3, #387
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1363014618990469122?s=20
Try 9 or 10 Collin LMFAOOO they can’t even get the number right LMFAOOO.
Didn’t realize there was a game tonight. Wowser. Jamal Murray. That is Klay Thompson esque or better. Was he just insanely hot or did we play the major role in being awful in perimeter d?
Murray can get hot and he was guarded primarily by Sexton and Okoro, you do the math LMFAOO
He did hit a few really tough shots. When he’s like that, he’s going to just hit almost everything.
yup, but he got easy shots early, found a rhythm, then hit tough shots because no one could disrupt his rhythm.
https://twitter.com/CrumpledJumper/status/1362957532881321988?s=20
Okoro smooth corner 3 to end the scoring, this was a better showing by him than some of the games on the recent road trip, that defensive rip from Porter Jr. with about 2 minutes left and his one tangle with Murray of ball denial was something, but obviously he and everyone on the squad needed to show up with the intensity a lot sooner.
Okoro was good tonight outside of the decision making/turnovers.
Next, from Cavaliers Live, why losing by 17 is actually an excellent outcome because Jarrett Allen did get many rebounds – wow my head hurts
LMFAOOOO cuz they can’t talk about how the “star” of the franchise got absolutely murdered on the court tonight.
So Collin Sexton scored 23 points tonight on a team worst -22 plus/minus. Thank God for the Pistons or Cavs would be the very bottom of the barrel in the East / League. Somehow this Cavs team is still 7-7 at home this year? (Not sure if that stat includes this game…).
Yeah exactly!!! that’s what’s infuriating about JB and Koby right now, we’re still easily in the playoff picture, but refuse to change anything to better the team.
Cavs young core needs to up the intensity, this might be a prelude to the Cavs-Nuggets NBA finals in 2024
Sexton’s handle is all over the place tonight
Cedi 3, need a miracle.
thank you Cedi, Cavs got to 100 points, I’m celebrating
that was an acheivement!!!!
LMFAOOOOOO Sexton with trash effort on Murray.
Murray trying to get to 50 and I’d be running him off elbow screens and points the coach that you’re gonna get him hurt.
nice kiss DG off the glass…. and then they fall asleep on Murray.
Murray absolutely wanted to show Sexton up, and he did tonight.
DG dribbling to nowhere, bad turnover.
Jamal Murray has double the number of rebounds than our starting perimeter COMBINED.
DG, Sexton, Okoro taking turns with bad decisions down the stretch that loses the game.
OH MY GOD< OKORO WHAT ARE YOU DOING>
Sexton dribbling into nowhere… what you doing homie.
falling down again against the smallest player on the court, quite a contrast with the genuinely elite Murray
LMFAOOOOOO Campazzo is built like a tank!!!! LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
Murray is good, but so erratic…just super streaky shooter…
GREAT PASS CEDI!!!!! ALLEN SLAM@
DG had Sexton wide open for 3… took the floater instead. Decision making hurting at crucial point sin the game.
DAMMIT OKORO SHOOT THE SHOT!!!
DG missed multiple guys open… awful possession.
Meanwhile the Bulls have won two in a row, are 9th in the conference and having a competitive game on the road at Philadelphia
whoa 216-Stix
GREAT DEFENSE DOTSON AND WINDLER!!!!
OH MY GOD, Windler getting to the bucket any time he wants, gotta finish that tho.
Help has to come quicker from the weakside, gotta anticipate the Jokic pass.
Cedi coming back in at some point? Nice to see Windler doing Windler things anyway
Windler with some grown man defence against Porter Jr. Wish he could finish at the rim but good signs anyway
He needs to take a few more shots, whether off of drives or threes…he’s a nice player, needs to show it more…
he just needs to stay healthy and get minutes
Yep. Definitely needs some more minutes. Hard to get going when he’s in for such short spurts.
he was on the court, they were sitting Sexton, but they probably bring him back for the last push unfortunately LMFAOOO
NICE TAKE WINDLER!
WOW, great defense on Murray doesn’t matter.
DOTSON THREE!!!!!
I totally would’ve tagged Jamal in the jimmies during the fall on that foul. Yeah I’ve been kicked out of some Y’s
WOW WHAT A FINISH WINDLER!!!!
He’s pretty good on those, uses his body well.
Cavs collapsed soon as DG and Allen had to go to the bench.
Gotta foul a guy like that hard on the Arm and give him something to think about.
Okoro making Murray play defence for a few seconds there
okoro pass up a wide open 3, ruins the possession.
Sexton ISO awful.
Welp another Cavs game another blowout L
OH MY FREAKIN GOD…. Murray being disrespectful LMFAOOOO
it’s really wild that 3 of the 4 best passers the Cavs had to start the season are either gone or injured (Delly, Exum, Nance)
Feels like Murray has 60 points…
his TS% gotta be 100% LMFAOOOOO
7-8 from three, 16-18 overall…
He’s clearly feeling good. Maybe he brought his snow bunny to CLE?
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that was a great joke Simmo!!!!!!!!
Only a cameo from me tonight, so I brought my A-game.
I salute your service!!!
getting that random time of the unwinnable game, so of course the ref has the voice of a 1950s detective film journalist
SEXTON TOOK THE OPEN 3 GOT THE CALL!!!
great pass MCGEE!!!! STEVEN FINISH!
WILL CHECK OUT THE 1ST FEW MIN’S —SEE WHAT THE CAVS DO—THEY WILL DTERMINE IF I STAY TUNED OR GO ” KISS THE DOG AND PET THE WIFE “
Yes. Checking in briefly but need to see competitive play. My Saturday mornings are important to me.
Nice to see Nance and Love on the bench, not to dream dreams or anything but in a test tube a healthy LNJ and a few 3s from Love would make these kind of games closer
also please break Delly out of the bubble wrap and drape him all over Murray, that guy is mad
No. God. Why? What a terrible shot. A Stevens elbow j with 12 seconds left on shot clock and 24 seconds left in quarter?
I like Stevens but Austin Carr analysis of that shot was hilarious “when he develops that shot over the summer he’s going to be a keeper for this Cavs organization.” What?
Yeah. Almost as great as AC’s “they really hunt that three point line” comment. Yes, Austin. three is oNE more better than two.
Sexton n without Garland has been awful.
5 turnovers for Sexton, 3 for Okoro….. 8 of 11 of the team’s total.
WHAT A MOVE MCGEE!!!!!!
Malone called the old “fall down on a screen” play out of the timeout.
A play that never fails.
great pass DG, nice cut Windler, just couldn’t finish.
NICE DEFENSE STEVENS!!!!
Argh. Just shoot the three instead of blowing your floor balance with a bad drive, dg.
yup… agreed.
Really bad D on Murray in the pick n roll, just waltzed into a wide open 3
yup point of attack just fell asleep.
I don’t really want to see Javale post up, but probably rather see him do it than Drummond…
NICE TAKE MCGEE!!
DG bad shot you have to make a better decision there. 5 point swing.
Cedi with a quietly good game, 4 rebounds 5 assists!
CAN ENJOY / TOLERATE THIS PLAYING BY THE CAVS —-GO CAVS ( SEE JUDE I CAN BE POSITIVE ) :-)
Ready to read a deep dive on Dotson as the new Terrell Brandon, dude is having a good game.
Haha. But Brandon was 5-11 and dot is 6-5
9 point game. Cavs bench > Nuggets bench tonight.
Amazing what a center who doesn’t have to post up to score can do for you.
what’s insane is that I remember Bacon had pointed out Dre was elite at the pick and roll, but just refused to do it enough LMFAOOOOO
GREAT STEAL DG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! DOTSON BREAK RAGE TO!!!!!!
3 steals!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, Allen has been so good tonight…
keeping the Cavs in the game
DG and Allen destroying this defense, more of that please!!!!
2nd half not too bad here, lots of nice movement on O