Finals Live Thread: Game 4, Warriors @ Cavs
2015-06-11I want to get very specific. Everyone watching the Cavs sort of shutdown the Warriors can recognize what’s going on: the Cavs are protecting the ball, limiting 3-point makes, slowing the game’s pace, making role players perform, and marching the NBA back to a time where games had less than 200 combined points and more than 200 combined hand-checks. Let’s check out some numbers from these playoffs to get a better appreciation for the Cavs 2-1 series lead.
LeBron James
The King has truly become the fearless leader of this Cavs team. There’s no arguing that. He yells at guys and a minute later points to the same guy saying, “you the man.” Throughout the season where he has placed his command throne on the court has changed. Look at his regular season shot chart:
Notice the high-post area where LeBron is Einstein. He just didn’t want to show his brilliance off during the regular season, and he settled for that comfortable undefended mid-range jumper. He took nearly 27% of his shots there, and sank two percent less than league average.
Now let’s look at his shots during the Eastern Conference playoffs. LeBron changed his mindset about getting to his happy place.
He started taking the ball in the high-post, as teams put smaller defenders such as Jimmy Butler and Jae Crowder on him. He used his patented adamantium shoulder to collapse chests with his first step, and the results were beautiful. Even though LeBron shot roughly average from the post, he hooked up shooters and cutters when the Bulls, Hawks, and Celtics sent an extra help defender to stop him from scoring.
Now let’s look at the King’s shot chart during this Warriors series:
In the first three games of the Warriors series, the King has been taking his talents to the post even more frequently. He’s staring Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes, and Andre Iguodala in the eyes and showing he isn’t scared to boogie despite a barrage of grabby hands.
The change in where LeBron is shooting is actually not what people should be focused on though. LeBron has essentially taken up an extra 1/3rd of the ball handling responsibilities in the playoffs and some how protected the ball even better. Looking over SportsVU possession data from the regular season, you can see that LeBron held the ball 6.1 minutes per game. During the playoffs, that number has jumped to 9.0 minutes per game (he has also started receiving the ball 1.4 more times in the post than he did during the regular season).
What’s truly amazing though has to do with the King’s turnovers. During the regular season, he turned the ball over 3.9 times a match, or about one time every 1.56 minutes. During the playoffs, the King has been turning the ball over 4.2 times a game, or once every 2.14 minutes. That’s some serious ball security right there. How is he doing it?
I would say that he is hyper-focused. I would also say that he knows how to better survey the floor from the post than on pick and rolls. He has also stopped trying to thread impossible passes on pick and roll plays.
What’s even crazier about LeBron’s ball security is that the one turnover every 2.14 minutes of possession is skewed. LeBron has had just ten turnovers in the three games against the Warriors, and he has held on to the ball even more, since Kyrie Irving went down. Unfortunately, the SportsVU data I have access to doesn’t let me look at specific dates, so just be happy knowing LeBron is constantly improving during this Finals run.
The Warriors
When you think Warriors, what comes to your mind? I think about 3-point shooting and the Splash Bros, Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson. Those bros ranked number one and two, respectively, for made 3s in the regular season. They also rank one and two so far this postseason. However, they aren’t doing so well during the first three games of the finals. The Cavs have held them both under 33% from 3-point land.
This is a problem for the Warriors because when they have struggled in the postseason or fell behind, they have jacked up threes to get caught up/gain momentum. During the regular season, the Warriors took 30.9% of their shots from 3-point land, and they made 40% of them. They hit 10.7 per game.
During their Western Conference playoffs run, the Warriors started taking 35.7% of their shots from beyond the arc. They made 11.7 per game, but their shooting percentage dropped to 38. This uptick in 3-point shooting helped them overcome dialed in defenses and helped during a 20 point fourth quarter comeback win against the Pelicans.
In the finals, 36.8% of the Warriors shots are three-pointers, but they’re making just ten a game at a 31.3% rate. The Warriors shooting has gotten progressively worse throughout the playoffs, and this is a product of better defensives and their own mindset.
Throughout the regular season the Warriors would shoot their way out of trouble. This is great when it works, but when the ball isn’t dropping it helps to have guys that can simply dunk over someone to score or back their way down/dribble to a layup. Sure, the Warriors have guys who can do those things, but that is none of their players’ calling card. The Cavs number one skill….Okay, LeBron’s number one skill is being able to back guys down to get an easy bucket, or back guys down to create an easy layup for a teammate.
Matthew Dellavedova Is Objectively Doing Stuff
What Matthew Dellavedova is doing this series is absolutely amazing, and there are actual stats which are objectively impressive enough to show how amazing it is. NBA.com has a stat that shows how well a player defends opponents. It takes the opponents’ average shooting percentage and compares it to what they shoot when covered by a specific man. In the Playoffs, Delly has caused opponents to shoot 1.4% worse than their average from 3-point land. In the Finals, if Delly defends the 3-ball, the shooter is shooting 25.9% worse than their average. That’s not a typo. Stephan Curry has shot just 32% in the past three games, which is pretty far away from his regular season average of 44%. If the Cavs laid the Delly onto Draymond Green, who is currently shooting 12.5% from 3-land this series, he would theoretically be shooting a negative percentage on 3-balls, which is impossible. Thankfully for stat recorders, that matchup won’t happen.
Game Four Thoughts
A lot of people are pointing to Stephen Curry’s 17 point barrage in the fourth quarter of game three as a sign that he’s going to start playing at his MVP level again. That doesn’t scare me. The Cavs have now given up three leads in the fourth quarter. J.R. Smith has yet to have a lava heat level shooting game (He has scored just 32 points total is three games). LeBron James is shooting only 40%. Iman Shumpert has yet to have a break out game. And, Tristan Thompson is shooting just 33% on shots.
The Cavs are causing Curry to falter. The Warriors aren’t really causing J.R. to struggle or Shumpert to struggle. The Warriors are game planning for LeBron James, and the King is still averaging 41 points, 8.3 assists, and 12 rebounds on 40% shooting. 40% shooting is great for some guys, not for LBJ. Eventually, more of his shots will drop. The same goes for TT. TT isn’t a jump shooter. He will shoot more than 33% considering most of his shots are simply put backs.
This game is a must win for the Warriors. They need both Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry to perform along with one other role player if they want a decisive victory. The Cavs just need one random hot game from a role player to win big tonight. The Cavs have the upper hand, and will come out looking to keep it.
What are your predictions tonight?
I’m picking the Cavs to win this game 110-92. The Cavs aren’t likely to have another fourth quarter melt down, and I would bet on one of the Wine & Gold role players getting hot before Draymond Green or Harrison Barnes does. Those two Golden States guys are too busy covering LeBron.
Cavs players played with complacency tonight… Lebron just tired.. others, I have no idea what they were doing… JR no show Shumpert – good D…but no O TT – so so.. in 1st half.. no show 2nd Russian – only player worthy tonight Lebron – to be all time great, this wasn’t going to support that thesis.. tired or not. Delly – did what he could.. and showed that he’s a hard working player with average skills… love him but made few errors and a lot of bad shots… 2-2 is fine after 4…but the feeling one gets after this… Read more »
I agree and I think the Cavs needed this game tonight if they wanted to win this series. The longer the series the more it favors the Warriors because of their depth.
Needed to step on GSW throat and put the team up 3-1. I didn’t get the approach. Lebron makes a few moves then kicks with 15 seconds left. Or Cavs were left with Shump or Delly trying to create. Very similar to old Cavs Lebron playoff teams.
When GSW didn’t double they should have gone back to game 3 tactics. Instead they tried to play cute. The Cavs don’t have the stamina to match GSW point-for-point in a shootout. Shocked that they played the uptempo for so long. Hopefully they go back to ball control pace.
Most points scored by Iggy the whole damn season, sighh
Exactly, the Cavs need to do a better job on him.They need to at least contest his shot.
He got too many warm up type shots.
Steph Curry walks around like he is the best player in the world. If he had Lebron’s supporting cast, he would absolutely nothing, NOTHING, except just another face at All-Star weekend.
Lebron had close to a triple double, and it looked like a chill mode game from him. And yeah I know he was probably beat, and that knock to the head didn’t help anything
Kerr’s going to regret letting Joe Harris find his rhythm.
Hahahahahah good one
The 3 Pointers killed us tonight, 8 more 3’s which is 24 points right there and we lost by 21
Defense just wasn’t there tonight. Iggy shot well, but his shots were just too open. Legs were gone for jumpers. The really needed Shump and JR to shoot well and they didn’t have it. They’ll be back for game 5.
This just lets the Cavs win at home on game six in the glory of our fans.
Didn’t like the way the Cavs ended that game. JR needs to lock himself in a gym. Also? Cavs were too happy with themselves before tonight.
Maybe. But I don’t think it was attitude. It’s just hard to bring the intensity that they had been playing with for that many games in a row. They needed another off day.
I actually agree with Cols. The kind of D they played Tuesday takes a lot out of you, Delly being an extreme example.
Just wish they conceded earlier if thats the case. Lebron only got a few minutes extra rest and they play again in 2 days.
JR has been pretty non-existent in this series though.
Anybody from this GS lineup would get 20 minutes for Cleveland.
Probably….it’s pretty ridiculous
9 points in the quarter….yepp
Gotta look on the bright side… Anyone told me they’d be 2-2 after four games, and I’d take it. Best of three now.
Sighhhh, we had the upper hand coming into this game and we couldnt take it. It really sucks right now
This one looked bad from the tip, almost. Got back into it, but it’s just looked bad.
Agree, after that 31 points in the first, I knew it would be a long time
I hope this big home loss motivates them and they come out for blood on Sunday. Sighh I really wanted this win
The Warriors got their confidence back and is going to be extremely difficult to beat at their Gym.
Cavs did it once (and nearly twice) already…
yea but that’s beginning of the series.. after 4 games.. they have adjusted and have confidence… much diff than game 1 (versus Sunday’s game 5)… being hopeful is always good.. anything can happen, but losing at home by 20 points without Curry and Thompson going off (beyond their avg) w/ other bench players… not good for Cavs..
who is going to score for us? if Lebron gets tired again Sunday and has a bad game, who??
JR? he hasn’t showed up this entire series
If you believe that… then I guess why even watch Games 5-7? Hell, why even play them?
Did you feel the same after game 1?
But the series has changed with the adjustments that Kerr made playing small. Now they are getting too many easy shots.
Cuz we had 1 day off to their two at home. Have a little faith that we also can make adjustments. Blatt didn’t win 16 (do you even comprehend the number 16?) European championships at various levels by accident.
In the Memphis series they didn’t have to worry about Allen or Conley. So yeah no problem letting the 2-1 go 2-2
Nice decision leaving JR in there to see if he gets hot.
Honestly we have missed a TON of shots by inches, and they have shot about as well as their role players can. We can definitely still win this series. Jr smith will have a big game. It’s coming.
Well, Joe Harris did come into the game as predicted
down by just 3… in 3Q but just didn’t seem like we were really playing in a way to win tonight… GS has really a lot of capable players… their 7-8 are really good.. ours is inconsistent with potential at best… JR absolutely had no show.. shame…
Cavs needed this game, especially at home.Sigh now Warriors have confidence going back home
We wanted the other Warriors to beat us, not Thompson and Curry. They did beat us, and our role guys didn’t step up.
The Kevin Love chocolate milk commercial is salt in the wound.
Curry didn’t do much.. and yet they will win this easily… not a good confidence builder for sure…
no shows on offense tonight other than Russian…
terrible game by all others…
being fatigued is right. but it’s not like they will be more rested for game 5… one more day yes, so will that make the diff in their home court?
LeBron won’t have two bad games in a row… guaranteed
I can’t stand the cockiness of the Warriors and everyone who supports them.
I agree. It’s like they feel
They’ve been anointed by Naismith
The good thing is that we’ve proven we can win at golden state.
This one’s on the nba: 4 games in seven nights with a travel day? Stupid.
Agree, that’s crazy….the Warriors have to deal with it, too, but it hurts the Cavs more. It’s stupid for both teams.
But look, Warriors have 2 full days between games again untill Sunday., Cavs only have 1 during the week
I think it was 8 nights, but 3 games in 5 nights is rough.
Yep. And they let a lot of contact go in the first.
Yeah especially after 8 days of no basketball. Couldnt they reschedule?
Sorry. Three in five.
Ugh. Ugh ugh. I hate everything.
Surprisingly I’m more confident going into game 5 than i ever was about this game.
I hope your right. We didnt play our game from the get go. I was really afraid before this game and my worse nightmare came through. Seeing that this was a blowout, all the GSW and Media is gonna love this and say we are overmatched.
we are over matched… only player for us is Lebron .. all others just inconsistent… and our D didn’t show up in 1st half… and in 4Q, no one showed up…call it fatigue all you want… it’s NBA finals at home… and we lose by almost 20? that’ awful…
where is JR? Shumpert? JR had awful game on O and D… Thompson didn’t seem to be himself either… no emotion …
did we all just give up this game b4 game started?
Just rest Lebron.
Yes, NOW. And Delly. Use the vets. Play smart.
Bad game for LeBron tonight. He was gassed.
He made some great passes to open guys. Those guys just could not shoot.
Easy to play defense on one guy when your ONLY other option is a 7 foot Russian.
Well all the analytics people will be happy tomorrow. I hate life right now.
They’ll be giddy
Hahaha No NBA TV, ESPN, NBA.Com, ESPN.com for me untill Game 5
Cavs 2-13 in the 4th
Cavs 4/25 from three….blech
Yep. That’s the game right there.
Delly has 9 3 point attemps this game, 2-9, sighh
Lebron not willing to take over the game. It’s over. Hopefully they can find a way to dictate pace on Sunday,
Just cannot shoot tonight.
Putting Livingston on DELLY was a smart decision.
lets see if we can score and get some stops
Steve Kerr has never gotten hammered, Mark Jackson, never. Talk to David Blatt if you want to know about getting hammered.
JR missed another assignment there
Cavs in the bonus now, gotta keep pounding it inside and drawing fouls to stop the clock.
well, its that kind of night for Warriors, seriously Iggy
Never seen Iggy shoot this well… EVER
Yeah, but if/ when he does, it’s murder, since we can’t afford to really cover him
I would kill to have Iggy on the Cavs right now
Blatt has done nothing I this game.. no strategy.. just playing same old way, regardless how GS is killing us with their changes.. terrible… and JR stinks bad… he may give 1 great game out of several… but I prefer consistencies than unpredictable guy… no show today and mostly entire series… Shumpert great D but no O… Lebron is just tired
Disagree… they made a great run in the third quarter. Missed shots and tiredness killing Cavs in the fourth…
Dude. Everyone is gassed. Not sure what buttons you think he can push.
George, is that you?
I thought so too. Can’t adjust when your offense isn’t clicking.
Before tonight JR averaged 11 points in the Finals with a lot of good D.
Remember when it was 73-70. Feels like a long time ago. 17-7 run for GSW since then
At the four minute mark, Lebron will begin the surgical procedure of snatching their hearts straight out of their chests.
The Cavs need JR to find his rythm if they want to win this series. It seems the Warriors are going to double LeBron from now on.
Not looking good now guys. And thats a result of letting them hang in in Game 3.
Still lot of way for the series though.
This is really what we are going to see when Lebron isn’t in superhuman mode….just too many guys who can’t get a shot
I mean seriously, how is it that Iggy has 3 3 pointers and the Cavs as a team have 4. Like wth
It was only a matter of time before GSW hit their shots. They are hitting the open looks they were missing the other games. And we can’t buy an outside shot. Even with Moz playing out of his mind, we can’t their 3s for our 2s when we are down 13.
Gotta actually look for the champ right now. We are more likely to get an offensive board on long rebounds. Shoot the three.
I roll with JR here. Gotta hope for magic.
There’s still time…but not much margin for error.
Give Kerr credit. His game plan shook things up the right way on offense and has challenged our perimeter guys to hit shots.
Our offense is literally Mozgov right now, too many quick shots
Don’t have the clock to take anything but.
Last gas. Gotta set up a three or two.
Well, not a good version of the cavs tonight
You finally getting it?
Still just one game. Not the whole series. Pump the breaks. Iggy isn’t going to play this well again and we will start to hit a few more shots
Cavs can’t shoot from outside this poorly and win the series. What don’t you get?
ONE GAME. ONE GAME. ONE GAME. You are treating this game like its all seven of them rolled into one. What don’t YOU get?
Never said they’d lose the series. I said they can’t win shooting poor from outside.
You literally said that JR was blowing the series. Get your negativity outta here. Night all.
Don’t recall ever saying that.
Ok you didn’t single out JR but here:
DaveR says:
June 11, 2015 at 11:23 pm
Cavs outside suck. Singlehandedly blowing this series.
Pretty clear lebron had no help other than TT and Moz underneath. The outside guys cant keep shooting cold. Why is this not true?
Warriors now going with the slow down game
Iggy just shooting out of his mind this game…
James Jones is given them nothing.
The Cavs have too many guys giving them nothing in this one….especially perimeter guys
If only we could hit our 3’s, today Warriors are hitting theirs
They have hit 10 and we have only hit 4
Draymond Green is the most unlikable player in NBA history
That’s the dagger! Game over!
Really? With six minutes left?
as frustrating as that was, those are all great shots for JR. gotta keep taking them.
…as he gets pulled from the game
Can’t keep missing open shots and expect to win. I thought the opposite type game was coming where the Cavs would finally rain fire. I am not happy.
Cavs outside suck. Singlehandedly blowing this series.
Woah, we have dominated all series. Still got 3 games to go after this. Let’s not jump to conclusions
Not a jump to say they have sucked this game. pretty damn obvious
Wow JR is God awful! He just missed like 5 3s in a row.