And fade to black…
2013-04-16I enjoyed Colin’s Monday missive, metaphorically comparing the soon-finished season to unassembled clips of a movie. I appreciated that sentiment even more while contemplating what to say myself about the year past.
What did this season mean? On the first day of winter, when Cleveland lost to Indiana, a third straight double-digit defeat, things looked bleak: Five wins and twenty-three losses; Varejao injured; Tristan struggling at the rim and Dion not driving there; a sad bench and questionable line-up decisions; Luke Walton stumbling around as the depressing and incapable back-up power forward. We took solace in the reasons of the compressed schedule, clustered with road tilts, and Kyrie’s early injury. By December 21st though, with a holiday break upcoming, and an easing schedule, it was time to find a few more wins; I asked for twenty. (if they win Wednesday, the team reaches that threshhold…not exactly as contemplated though.)
And then the next night, they won, and the day after Christmas, another present for the fans. Victories started trickling in; Kyrie with 33 and Tristan with 11 & 14 against Atlanta; the same duo combining for 50 points and 17 rebounds against Portland; and eventually Irving scoring 107 points during a late-January three-game winning streak. And things were just starting to get fun. Tristan’s basket of tricks suddenly overflowed: running righty hooks, push shots, fancy dribble drives…in January, he averaged 15 & 11 with 53% shooting and 68% from the line. Combined with his standard defensive effort, it was a revelation.
A trade with Memphis brought a revitalized bench, and over one five-week stretch, the team won 10 of 16 games. The Herculoids were birthed, as Luke Walton averaged an assist every four minutes, joining Shaun Livingston, Wayne Ellington, CJ Miles and Marreese Speights for a frolicking good time. They were an offensive force, orchestrating pretty two-man games, cutting and passing with aplomb.
Another three game winning streak ensued, first with Kyrie netting 35 against title-contending Oklahoma City, before he, Dion and Tristan tag-teamed towards 114 points on 70% true shooting over two games. And the train kept-a-rolling, with the bench destroying all-comers, Dion averaging reasonably efficient 20 points per 36 minutes for ten weeks, and Tristan bullying opposing front-lines. Over a thirty game stretch, the youngsters and their reinvigorated veteran brethren played glorious five-hundred basketball.
And there was Kyrie. In January & February, he posted 24 points per night, shooting a sublime 47 / 44 / 91. For a first-timer, he owned all-star weekend. Breaking ankles in the Shooting Stars game, destroying scrubs in the three-point contest, and scoring fifteen with the Big Boys on Sunday. Of course, this all occurred before his 21st birthday.
Things looked good at the Q, but then Kyrie got hurt, followed by Dion…then OH NO!! Luke Walton!! They were roughed up by Indiana, then lost an absolutely epic short-handed battle versus Miami. Things unravelled quickly; a forty-point destruction at the hands of Houston; three double-digit losses to fellow-lottery teams; a historic blown-lead at Indiana; and finally a near-Norris Cole triple-double on Fan Appreciation Night. Add it up, and the computation sums to two wins in a month, and a season ending in spectacular implosion. To some extent, it all serves as microcosm for Byron Scott’s other head coaching stints: a rapid rise behind an elite point guard, followed by an equally accelerated and historic collapse, infused with reports of player discontent and exasperating lack of effort.
What does it all mean? I don’t know. We are all amateur documentarians. I’ll still explore some preferences. Letting Coach Scott go sounds imminent and seems right. Moving through the next seven months with a universally acknowledged short-leash imparts detrimental effects all-around. Find a replacement, let him start gaining the core’s confidence, and let that young group start immersing themselves in new offensive and defensive wrinkles.
For personnel, I am fine with staying the course. Draft Noel, Oladipo, Porter…whoever the front-office likes at their top-five pick. Maybe trade the 16th pick for a suitable bench player; shoot, Indiana got George Hill for the 15th pick in the last “weak” draft. Oklahoma City is near the luxury tax, and would maybe consider taking the Spurs-route; 16th pick for three-and-D ace Thabo Sefolosha? Maybe that’s not the right move, but adding experience and defense should take priority over additional rookies. Maybe with the 2nd rounders, take a flier on a point guard & a young-big, and send them to the D-League for a year; perhaps an in-house back-up for Kyrie can be groomed.
With an added lottery pick, next year’s roster is Kyrie, Dion, Tristan, Zeller, Varejao, Miles, Gee, and top-five rookie. Stir in some random youngsters teetering between the end of the bench and the D-League, and a minimum of four legitimate NBA bench players need added. My preference is keeping Ellington and Livingston and finding a cheap, new big…maybe Gustavo Ayon? And finally, as a twelfth man, another point guard…I suggested A.J. Price last year for the minimum; for today, let’s roll with that. There still may not be enough shooting, but ironing out a lineup for next year is not what we’re here to talk about today.
With only one major shake-up, I’m very hopeful for the 2013 – 2014. With the following things happening, I think a leap is in order next year:
- Kyrie plays at least 70 games and resumes his starward trajectory, and we all forget about his April shooting percentages of 35 / 28 / 90 (hey, it’s Dion Waiters from December!) In all likelihood, if good health, offensive mastery, and defensive commitment don’t come from Kyrie, this incarnation of the Cavs never reaches the NBA pinnacle. How is that for lofty expectations?
- We get 2013 Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters for a full season, and the 2012 versions disappear like shadows at night.
- Alonzo Gee cannot rank second on the team in minutes for a third straight season. I don’t know if it’s Ellington, Miles, the lottery pick, or a 3-and-D free agent, but Gee needs reigned-in towards 15 – 20 minutes per game. The player between Waiters and Tristan must be a knock-down shooter.
- Over the last seven seasons Anderson Varejao averaged 1500 minutes. Through controlling his minutes and games played, he needs to reach that threshold next year.
- With a lottery selection and picking-up Miles’ option, there are eight players under contract next year. The off-season free agent haul should include four-ish players and needs to eclipse last year’s crew of Miles, Kevin Jones, Leuer, Pargo, Harangody, and Micheal Eric (those last four guys plus Manny Harris started for Miami on Monday night, right?) I’m not advocating for a splashy move, but dole-out $10 – $12 annually to four guys on relatively short contracts (1 – 3 years). Just make sure that the twelve guys sitting on the bench on opening night are trusted when called upon, and that they bring maturity (and some shooting and / or passing and / or defense).
- Find a new coach. Next year the team starts fresh.
Personally, that relatively minimal level of improvements drive the team towards the post-season. But maybe a huge personnel move will happen between now and October. We’ll wait and see. For now, thankfully 2012 – 2013 is nearly complete. Next week, we can all dive fully into the draft.
If there’s no way Sloan comes back, here’s 2 suggestions I just came up with: Brad Stevens and Shaka Smart
^ most humorous thought of the last quarter of the cavs season.
I’m glad this is the last game for the team. I’m ready to be let down by the Indians.
Honestly, as a player I have to imagine that, after watching Scott and knowing that he and the organization wanted you to lose to get better draft results, it would be hard to really buy in and trust them again, and turn the page. Not impossible, but there would definitely be some trust issues to work out along the way. It may be easier to just get a new coach, and Scott has shown me absolutely nothing to that says he’s not a replacement level coach. The front office may disagree with me, and if they do I won’t care… Read more »
Dan Gilbert offers Phil Jackson stake in the Cleveland casino in order to come coach the Cavs?
I can’t see a scenario where Phil Jackson going to Cleveland unless because he’s getting paid like $50 grand to give a speech to some corporate big wigs. I’d be interested in Larry Brown or Jerry Sloan if they weren’t well into their 70’s. If either was hired instead of Mike Brown six years ago, sure. How much longer do they realistically have on this planet let alone as a coach. I have no interest in Doug Collins, McMillan, etc. If you’re going to hire one of them you might as well give Scott one last season. Find an assistant… Read more »
“The statement that there are no good candidates is maddening. The Cavs need to find the best coach and employ him.”
Exactly. Thank you for some good common sense. I don’t hate Coach Scott and I’m not strongly for or against him being fired, but clearly there are plenty of quality options if we do indeed show him the door.
I look forward to the possibilitites that you’ll highlight in your upcoming piece. We may even know Scott’s ultimate Cavs destiny by then as well.
Byron Scott was originally hired to potentially coach a championship contender in Cleveland, which is surprising since his best skill so far seems to be individual player development. For a rebuilding franchise, the highest priority has got to be player development. We don’t need an elite coach to take us to the upper tier right now, we need KinderCare for helping the players grow. Scott, a former guard, has a great track record coaching guards, which happen to be the foundation of this Cavs team. If two is a coincidence and three is a pattern, then we need this third… Read more »
Look for a coaching candidates rundown coming Friday. The statement that there are no good candidates is maddening. The Cavs need to find the best coach and employ him. I’ve seen enough from Byron to know that I’ve seen too much.
I agree with nearly everything, all except for the Byron Scott stuff. I am sure at some point I will have extended thoughts over at FtS. But things that Kevin is getting at that I like: The amount of minutes Alonzo Gee gets are really hurtful. His defense is overrated, and he doesn’t help us spread the floor, doesn’t rebound well for a small forward, etc. A guy with a PER of 10.48 playing that many minutes just really hurts. We don’t need to replace him with someone fantastic necessarily. Replacing his minutes with someone who can get a PER… Read more »
@ scott
Agreed. It is definitely up in the air. Will be watching intently tonight.
There are several coaches out there who the Cavs could go after. Either Van Gundy, Jerry Sloan reportedly wants to come back (good fit with cavs imo), Brian Shaw is also a posibility, and with Phil Jackson wanting to come back into the NBA but moreso as a GM, we could pottentially get rid of Scott and Grant and replace with Shaw and Jackson. I’m not suggesting that we should/not get rid of Grant, but the opportunit for both these guys to the organization could be great influence on both the current players and help bring in FA’s as well.
“It’s well known, even if it’s not fair, that aside from the great coaches (George Karl, Popovich, Phil Jackson, etc), today’s players often tire of a coach’s approach, thereby rendering him practically useless in his role. If the team has reached this place with Scott, then we have effectively plateaued with him at the helm. And there isn’t a fan among us that wants this to be our plateau.” Agree with this. I just don’t see any evidence that this is true with the Cavs other than people in the media wildly over interpreting Scott’s facial expressions. TT and KI… Read more »
Jag, you are right that judging the coach on W’s and L’s this season is dumb. Blaming him for a complete lack of effort, accountability, continued bottom 3 defense, and terrible in game coaching decisions is all fair game. We have to judge him on something, and the only positive I can think of that he actually displayed while on the Cavs, (not previous coaching stints) is the development of Tristan Thompson. Dion was going to get better than finishing sub 40% at the rim no matter who coached him, but maybe you can also, prematurely as Dion is still… Read more »
You guys are totally jinxing the Lakers pick by counting on it now. That shit is NOT in the bag yet.
Kevin, My comparison to the Browns was made because I don’t see a change after three years as being necessary as much as I see it as impatience. The Browns haven’t followed a rebuild to completion and always start changing things before they have a relatively complete core of players. The Cavs core is far from complete and blaming W’s and L’s on a coach whose team is mostly bereft of talent and has undergone multiple injuries to core players is premature. Changing coaches for change sake can go either way and the Cleveland record is for it to go… Read more »
I want to see them improve, see an offense and defense that can hold leads, and sustain leads along with coming back from deficits. I want to see a fight in them for more than some games, or part of some games. I would like to see and endorse moves (Front Office, Coaching, FA, Draft, Trades, etc…) that would show the team is wanting the same thing.
Moral of the story, if most of the players believe scott is the guy that can get them over the hump, keep him. If they all think he’s too old school, out of touch, and don’t want to listen to him, he should be gone. The reasons for keeping him: He’s got a good overall resume and Cleveland is not likely to land someone with a better one. His horrible 3 year stretch is completely excusable and I doubt any coach in their primes could have gotten any of those inured rosters to the playoffs. There is a consistent offensive… Read more »
I agree with several commenters; it’s not primarily about wins & losses, or the effect of injuries or limited talent. Primarily, Coach Scott has 13 seasons of coaching behind him, and three that we have watched closely. I don’t think he is a game-changing coach. If that is the case, why take on the risk of waiting & seeing how the first 15 games go next year? Why not peruse the available options and see if a game-changer can be unearthed? Scott is a known commodity with limited “upside”…the team can find someone with a “higher ceiling”.
@ Ross “Bottom line is this…whether it’s fair or not, if the players have tired of Byron Scott’s voice and have tuned him out, it is POINTLESS to bring him back for another season or half-season or however long he might last. If they’ve tired of his voice and coaching, then don’t wait to replace him. It will just prolong this stage of the rebuild unnecessarily.” Exactly. It’s up to Chris Grant to be able to read the team and know if Byron has lost them. It sure looks that way, however. Waiting until how ever many games into next… Read more »
true, but aren’t the Bulls a rare outcome compared to most? I agree that there are things that Coach Scott does that bother me (statue court-side, use of time outs, rotations, lack of visible signs of life) but are they enough to start over with new coach. i am having difficult time deciding
@ trespin
Not necessarily. The Bulls went from 41-41 to 62-20 in the first year of Thibodeau’s tenure. Sometimes a new voice and a new leader (with an actual defensive system) is what is needed to push a young team to making “the jump.”
No one is saying that Coach Scott should be fired due to the injuries. No one! Everyone agrees that’s part of what happened this year. Mostly everyone agrees that if you look at the roster at the start of the season that we weren’t even trying to win anything this year. If you only look at those 2 things, then I agree it’s absolutely ludicrous to fire him. I’m not anti-Byron Scott. I don’t think he’s a world beater by any stretch of the imagination, but I think he’s an acceptable NBA coach, nothing more, nothing less. However, with that… Read more »
it takes a good 2-3 years to get the pieces in place to turn a team around. This is the third draft since the rebuild started. Next year should be the year we see noticeable improvements in the team. This is of course if we get some FA moves, trades, decent draft. Changing the coach without giving them 4-5 years seems to reset the rebuild. A new coach starting for next year would set them back a year or so in the rebuild plan. yes, no?
I like this piece. I think the “middle” stretch of the season when we were healthy and gelled is the most relevant for forecasting next year’s performance (assuming we are healthy). Because of that, I think a 7-8 seed is a realistic expectation. If less is achieved, then next season will be a failure. I am not in favor of firing B Scott. The negativity for Scott is directly tied to the terrible stretch of B-Ball that followed Irving and Waiters injuries. I just don’t see why that is Scott’s fault, and who we are going to get that is… Read more »
I’m in total agreement with those that use the example of the Browns and how changing coaches leads to changing philosophies, playbooks, and personnel which inevitably only makes the rebuild take longer. I don’t like how often coaches are fired today in professional and college sports. Sometimes that decision hurts just as much as it helps. However, I don’t know that you can entirely compare the effect of changing head football coaches in the NFL to the NBA. I don’t want to over simplify basketball and say that there aren’t complexities because there certainly are, but I don’t tihnk it’s… Read more »
Every day someone is calling for Byron Scott’s head during the offseason, and I have yet to hear any good suggestions for a replacement, any suggestion at all most times. So who exactly is this coach that’s supposed to step in next season and lead the Cavs to glory? What available head coach, in a crowded market, is going to make the team healthy, play harder defense, call better plays/rotations, all while not stunting the growth of a bunch of 2nd and 3rd year players with a whole new set of schemes and philosophies? ANY coach would be on a… Read more »
Scott probably needs to go. Here’s another reason why…Only 17 of the 57 losses were by 12 or more points. The Cavs had 11 one possession losses (defined by a three point loss or less, five of those being one point losses), three additional 4 point losses, and 15 more that were decided by 8 points or less. That’s 30 very close games which ended up being losses. Think of this, you turn those 15 losses that they lost by 4 our less into wins and they are in the playoffs. I get that’s not realistic, but who’s to say… Read more »
@ Gordon
I suppose we could hope that Orlando reaches for Trey Burke if they pick before the Cavs. That would be a significant reach though.
Love the article, but I don’t like how you mention multiple times without hesitation that we are getting a top 5 pick. There is a very real, albeit unlikely, chance we end up with the 6th or 7th pick, and you my friend are jinxing us. KJ, we don’t need to find a coach better than Scott, we need to find a coach who will get through to this team better than Scott has. I agree he’s had a rough time of it, dealing with the aftermath, then super young talent and Antawn, then a decent group of injury prone… Read more »
@ Tony
You could be right. I certainly hope so. As far as I know, the Magic were happy with Affalo at SG. But we’ll see.
I don’t see Orlando taking Porter because they have Harkless and Tobais Harris. I do see them taking Noel or Mclemore that would cause a ripple down effect into other teams taking Porter and leaving the Cavs with my worst case scenario of Shabazz.
Smart staying in school is a huge bummer for us. No way Noel slips past both Charlotte and Orlando now.
Looks like Marcus Smart is not turning pro. That could be a bummer for the Cavs. Not that they would draft him, but there was a good chance Orlando would have taken him if available. So now, if the Magic draft before the Cavs, they might snag Porter. No guarantees, of course, but it would have been preferable if Smart was available.
Just so everyone realizes, whoever the next coach is, he’ll also be on a short leash. I mean, if Scott was expected to win next year, so will this guy. If the team starts out 5-20, he’ll be fired.
The problem of firing Scott is that I am quite concerned we may not get anyone better.
I though for a second I was reading an old post from a Browns site. Now the fans can turn on Grant and hasten the completion of the metamorphosis of the Cavs into the NBA version of those lovable guys in orange helmets.
JAG,
Explain further the semblance between this and the Browns. They are working on 7 coaches in 14 seasons. They have started 17 quarterbacks during that time.
Other than a coaching change after three years (only two of the Brown’s coaches lasted that long, only 8 NBA coaches have been at the helm longer than Byron), I advocated for roster continuity. To me, a minor shake-up looks necessary.
I see the Lakers pick as free money. It’s a 20 in the chair you just bought off craigslist for $20. There are multiple things Grant could do: Euro stash. The lottery pick will give the Cavs five core players who have less than three years of experience. That’s enough for now. How about drafting Saric, Gobert or possibly Adetokoubo and letting the guy mature for a few seasons. This seems like the biggest lottery ticket to me. In an ideal world that player will develop overseas and in two years when the Cavs are more handcuffed by salary they’ll… Read more »
comment monster doesn’t like my comment, bunch of happy Youtube clips, oh well
Enjoyed this post, only happy that we fire B Scott if we have a better replacement, but im tired of his stoicism
Draft Dream – (Lottery) Noel, (17) Glenn Robinson III, (32) Myck Kabongo/Russ Smith, (36) C.J. Fair
“Indiana got George Hill for the 15th pick in the last “weak” draft.”
And then the Spurs got Kawhi Leonard with that pick…
Kyrie from downtown,
Yes. The Spurs needed to get cheaper and younger though, the Cavs probably need to get a little older (aside from Kyrie, Tristan, Dion, Zeller, 2013 lottery guy). My opinion, at least.
Also, if Kawhi Leonard was drafted onto the 2013 – 2014 Cavs instead of the 2011 – 2012 Spurs, would his career look different? If the Cavs can get an established rotation player for the 16th pick, I would be fine with that.