Preseason Recap: Cavaliers 104, Sixers 93
2013-10-21The Cavs travelled to Columbus to play Philadelphia’s merry band of tank artists Monday evening. Many players missed the game with injuries, including Jarrett Jack, Tyler Zeller, and of course, the maybe-maybe-not ready for basketball Andrew Bynum. Also not featuring were Dion Waiters and Earl Clark. C.J. Miles and Alonzo Gee got the starts alongside the core of Irving-Varejao-Thompson.
The Cavs jumped out to an early lead behind good ball movement from the entire team. Irving easily had his way with Michael Carter-Williams and pretty much every 76er. He appeared sharp with his passes the entire night, including a masterful fast break in the fourth quarter wherein he hesitated with the right side of his body, twisting slightly so as to continue to move forward with his left. What that did was create the smallest of spaces, through which he tossed a sublime pass to Anthony Bennett for the dunk. Kyrie finished with 17 points and 12 assists, all without exerting too much. He’s still elite. The team picked up on his energy and threw nine assists in the first period.
Tristan Thompson had a very strong game as well, finishing with 15 points and 16 boards. More intriguingly, his right-handed shooting stroke looked smooth and effective. He appeared comfortable all game, as did Irving and the hyperactive Varejao to a lesser degree, and the Cavs starters generally outclassed a bad Philly team. The Sixers tried to run most of the game, and this was relatively ineffective, especially against the top Cavs players. Defensively, Tristan Thompson had a monster block on Evan Turner and Kyrie Irving looked improved, as he snuck around and disrupted passing lanes. Every Cavs player had a positive or neutral plus/minus except for Jermaine Taylor.
Mike Brown attempted to bifurcate the rotation, playing a first team for the first and last six minutes of each half and alternating it with a mostly different second team featuring Bennett, Matthew Dellavedova, Taylor, and Henry Sims. Sergey Karasev was out there and looked comfortable despite 1-for-6 shooting, but left with an ankle injury. It remains to be seen how serious it is. Sims and Dellavedova both looked solid and seem likely to round out the roster of 15, meaning Taylor and Elliot Williams are the odd men out in this scenario. Williams looked strong in spots, but Dellavedova shot and passed effectively and Sims was strong on both sides of the ball. Bennett looked good again tonight, and his time spent with the first team showed the dangerous spacing effect he brings to the table. A hypothetical lineup of Irving-Waiters-Miles-Bennett-Thompson has serious range. Bennett slotted in well with Thompson down low and looks more at ease every game. There was a sequence in the second quarter where a speeding Bennett caught a pass with his back to the basket, turned onto forthcoming pressure and calmly fired a pass down low to I think Sims. Dude has poise and is starting exhibit the all around game that made Chris Grant and co. take him first overall.
The duo of Alonzo Gee and C.J. Miles was effective for Cleveland. Gee hit four three-pointers, including a pair in a decisive late-fourth quarter run. He was somewhat anonymous for most of the game, but got open enough and converted his corner threes. Miles missed all of his attempts, but moved well off the ball and often found himself with an open shot.
As for the outcome of this exhibition, the Sixers took their first lead at 74-73 with 9:58 left…and followed that up with a four-minute scoring drought. The starters came back in and took over. Thompson had a nice half hook, which he followed up with the huge block of Turner, and then Kyrie made that magical pass to Bennett, whose dunk basically sealed it. The Cavs looked in cruise control throughout and will play Washington next, on Wednesday.
Jermaine Taylor > Dellevadova
With the ballhandling of Jack and Waiters I think that you don’t need a traditional 3rd point. Taylor brings more punch.
Rich:
C: Bynum, Varejao, Zeller
PF: TT, Bennett
SF: Miles, Gee, Clark, Felix
SG: Waiters, Karasev
PG: Kyrie, Jack
(and yes, I realize many of those positional assignments are fluid)
You’re right. That does leave two spots. I was probably reading the PD article incorrectly when it said there was only one open roster spot. Great. Keep Sims and Delly. Sims has clearly beaten out Kadji. Thanks for reminding me to actually, you know, count and stuff.
Wow Jeff G – you are…something. Bennett is a legit 6’8. If he’s 2″ shorter than Tristan, it’s because he has grown to 6’10 (there’s a picture of him standing next to Lebron and he’s got a solid 2″ on him…and Lebron is listed as…6’8.) Bennett is a true 4…though a “true stretch 4” with his offense. Defensively, he can bang with the big guys…which is what keeps him from being a tweener. Andy is not a “true 4”. Andy is a 5. Get used to that. He started as a 4. He’s a 5 now. It’s the nature of… Read more »
I’ve been slightly disturbed by the amount of fouls called on our front court players this preseason…
I’m very excited to see what Mike Brown can do for Tristan Thompson’s defense. Thompson strikes me as the kind of guy that will just soak up everything Brown teaches him and really make a conscious effort at that end. Even in his best moments, he’s a finisher, not a playmaker, so he needs to continue perfecting his footwork around the basket and his touch. But where he can stand out is at the defensive end.
TT is looking like he wants a trip to the All-Star game. Don’t see it happening this year but if he develops his right and keeps working on his left handed moves he could develop into a 20 point guy which is something I have never said before. He can already handle the ball at an elite level for a 4. He was hitting college distance 3 pointers in the game last night. If that’s less than 12 months of work (on right handed shooting) I could see him extending his range All the way to the Corner 3. That… Read more »
TT is looking good. Curious to see how Jonas does this year (unfortunately, I will always compare the two!) We need another season of Dion to see if he is a hit or miss. If he improves his shot selection over the course of the year, he will have justified his pick. Judging AB in the preseason is really ridiculous. He could be a steal or a bust…let’s wait and see.
Nate, I’m not sure why you think only one guy between Delly and Sims make it. As I count it, there are 13 guys that you can basically count on being on the roster, leaving two spots open. Those are the two guys who are going to make it.
Well, funny I saw him guard Vucevic effectively too but let’s not get facts in the way…
Look, you wanna be the glass half-empty guy in Bennett? You will have many comrades on that team, esp on this blog. Then again, the same folks talked all kinds of –deleted– about TT and Dion too. So, you all 0 for 2 so far. Forgive me if I go with Chris Grant over you all on Bennett. Well, that and my own damn eyes…
If Bennett is in better shape, I’m missing it. Seems to be consistently the last man down the court. Also, lets no get carried away with him guarding Spencer Hawes for a couple possessions. He is not a true 4. He’ll guard 4’s, but he prefers playing on perimeter and mid-range. I’m not saying its a bad thing, but he is not a true 4. tristian and Andy are “true 4’s”. At the end of the day, I want it to work out, but it is painful watching him so out of shape and constantly fouling. Also, I might be… Read more »
Try to hold back the giggles… Unrelated, but Ryan Hollins sighting at #47! http://hoopshype.com/galleries/hoopshype/the-top-50-players-in-bobcats-history
I figured some people here would find this interesting… There really should be a general forum at CtB…
Btw, Nate you are REALLY over-rating Zeller.
Jeff G you just trot out tired tropes. Bennett is clearly is improving on getting in shape. Compare last night to his first game. As far as the “true 4” nonsense, ummm, he has guarded CENTERS this season effectively! He played center for stretches defensively last night. His wingspan and strength, in fact, make him a effective defender against bigger opponents.
Sometimes I wonder what game folks are watching…
Hmm. I admit my bias. I hated the pick, but I realize Bennett’s potential, and he seems like a generally humble and likeable kid. And I don’t think I’m nitpicking per se. The things I point out are things he needs to work on. But he has, in the words of Jay Bilas, “tremendous upside potential,” and that’s why I point out the things I see wrong, and the things I see that he’s doing well, especially the unexpected. I just want him to get better.
28 Minutes?? Are we watching the same game? Bennett cannot get up and down the court yet, let alone play 28 minutes. He also fouls non-stop against garbage competition. Lets start with 15 minutes, and some treadmill work after the game. Not to mention he’s probably only 6’6 or 6’7 and not a true 4. He’ll need to be played with certain lineups which will affect his minutes further. Media guides say 6’8, but he is noticeably shorter (2-3 inches) than Tristan, who’s 6’9. Bennett has a large wingspan, but to use that effectively he has to to be able… Read more »
@nate – I agree that Bennett will find minutes scarce on this roster. But I think you are a bit harsh on his performance. He is a 20 year old kid who everyone knew would be a project. The FO has purposely built a team in which Bennett does not need to make a huge impact immediately – they want him to have plenty of time to learn and progress. Given that, it doesn’t really make sense to nitpick his well understood, youthful flaws. No one has ever claimed he doesn’t have flaws. What matters is whether he can reach… Read more »
Thought KI got a little sloppy with the ball, but most of that is him trying new things in pre-season, which I’m fine with. 22 turnovers was hopefully an aberration. The small forward battle heated up, with Miles and Gee both having good games, and Earl Clark not playing. At this point I have to think that Henry Sims has the edge on the roster spot over Dellavedova. He really played solidly. The Cavs have a tough choice to make there. Anthony Bennett will probably be buried once Zeller returns. Rumors are that Bynum may be back by the first… Read more »
I think that you overrate TZ if you call him a good player. Right now, you are basically dividing those 96 minutes between AV, TT, AB and potentially a little bit of Sims (as he seems to be doing OK in the preseason.) I think that if we are as good as we seem to look at times, then you’ll see Bennett getting extended time closing out games where we have a lead…and it looks like we finally have the kind of team that can do that (assuming we stay healthy.) I also think that we’ll see guys like Varejao… Read more »
I agree with Hot Sauce, but if Zeller becomes that much of a non-factor, should they be looking to trade him already? I really think so, maybe pick up 3 that can provide more of an offensive threat or even a draft pick…Zeller hasn’t produced enough during his time in Cleveland for me to like him that much
There are 96 minutes at the 4 and 5. If Brown is not going to play Bennett at the 3, then we have 96 minutes to divide between 5 good players: AV, TT, TZ, Bynum and Bennett. I don’t see how Bennett gets 28 minutes. Once Bynum is healthy I think we might see something like: TT-30, AV-24, Bynum-24, Bennett-18, TZ nothing.
I don’t know . . . it’s looking to me like Tristan was the right pick at #4. I was a Valanciunas fan. Even if JV blossoms the two will be comparable. What a leader TT is turning out to be. What KJ said: “It was clear how much we missed Dion and his dynamic play on offense.” Has Sims done well enough to make the team and cut into Zeller’s playing time? I think so. Jermane Taylor is not a complete product, but has NBA quickness, athleticism, and tenaciousness. I’d hate to see him cut free and turn into… Read more »
CaVs – even if you give TT 30 minutes per night, I can still see Bennett getting 28 minutes…if only in a lineup where TT plays some center. That lineup would be one of the more explosive (athletically) lineups that we could put out there on the court. Still, I am starting to see some of what Grant saw when he drafted Bennett…though I still remain skeptical.
Agree with CaVs. TT will get his 30 minutes a night no matter who is healthy. Bennett will be a highlight machine in his minutes though.
I was upset the way Delly turned the ball over. Also think he is a defensive liability against any kind of quick guard.
I am amazed how good Bennett has become in half-court defense! He still needs some work on one-on-one defense but man, huge improvement defensively thus pre-season.
It was clear how much we missed Dion and his dynamic play on offense tonight.
^^I doubt AB will get 28 minutes a night from Mike Brown… 20-25 minute range sounds more realistic since TT will propably play close to 30 minutes… Though it all depends on Bynum’s health and on how many minutes Zeller will get… Could also imagine TT play some minutes at Center with AB as the PF (If Bynum’s not ready and if Zeller’s defense still sucks)
Im thinking about 28 mins per, 14.5/7.5/2 on 47% shooting, 2nd in ROY voting for AB. Not bad.
Miles doesn’t really seem to fit the rotation, but looks great whenever he’s in. He may push Karasev into the D league…