Recap: Cleveland 74, Indiana 89 (Or, Meet the new Mike Brown, same as the old Mike Brown?)
2013-11-03The Cavaliers lost last night to Indiana, in a game that the Pacers dominated in almost every statistical category. It wasn’t pretty for the Cavs, and Indiana showed why they were the runner up in the Eastern Conference last year. Cleveland looked like they were still adjusting to their new head coach and system, especially on offense, and showed that their small forward problems aren’t going to go away any time soon. Floor spacing issues seemed to plague the Cavs all night. Cleveland had a very hard time getting the ball to the third option, and it rarely swung to the corners. Indiana looked like a giant yellow blob absorbing wine colored invaders every time Cleveland tried to pierce the defensive membrane.
Defensively, the Cavs competed, but Indiana just wore them down. Lance Stephenson was the third option on many sets, and the Pacers moved the ball and found him on the wing consistently, where he was 5-7 from three. Also, Paul George had 21 points and 13 boards, scoring every way possible: pull-up jumpers, cutting layups, leak-out dunks, and in the post. He’s like pretty good and stuff.
The fact that the refs called 25 fouls on Cleveland, and 16 on Indiana didn’t help either. Dion, especially, seemed the victim of some pretty tough no-calls. Cleveland was also plagued with offensive fouls on screens and dribble hand-offs, and it seems as if the “point of emphasis” of policing those calls has reached ridiculous proportions. Cleveland had way too many touch fouls 23 feet from the basket, which really hurt their offensive efficiency, and those fouls seemed to come at momentum killing moments.
Indiana clearly designed their game plan to mitigate Cleveland’s top two scorers in the first two games: Tristan Thompson and Kyrie Irving. Tristan clearly struggled on offense, going 1-5 and scoring only two points and grabbing only four rebounds. Indiana was denying TT touches, and the Cavs weren’t making the extra effort to get him those touches. Indiana’s defense conceded shots to Varejao and Earl Clark. Andy made them pay going 6-9 from the floor with a bevy of elbow jumpers. Roy Hibbert was reluctant to chase Andy out past 15 feet, and Varejao capitalized. Earl Clark was not so fortunate, going 0-4 with 2 points and seven boards. Clark often looked to defer, and it was clear that Indiana was not worried about him.
Indiana packed the paint and extended their defense on whichever guard had the ball, giving them little room from the three point line to the bucket. Kyrie and Dion went a combined 13-38 from the floor with only 5 assists. Dion was the team high scorer with 17, but he had a very hard time finding teammates, hence the zero assists. Though he did notch 4 steals, he and Kyrie were late rotating to Stephenson, especially in the second half. One of Cleveland’s lone statistical victories came in the way they played passing lanes, pilfering 15 steals, and winning the turnover battle 16 to 20. Being out-shot 41.6% to 34.9% pretty much mitigated that advantage, though.
Oh, and rebounding. Indiana will be the best rebounding team in the league this year. They chase down the ball, no matter who is on the floor, and out-rebounded and out-extended the Cavs 51-37, including 21 rebounds off of the bench. Tristan Thompson seemed a step slow on the boards, and only had four in the game.
Cleveland closed out the third quarter well, and cut the deficit to 7 points, the closest it would be for the rest of the game. Indiana blew the doors off the good guys at the start of the fourth, outscoring them 17-6 in the first five minutes, and that was about all she wrote. Mike brown did try going three guard at that point. The lineup was +4, but it was too little, too late.
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So let’s talk about what’s really going on here.
- Anthony Bennett shouldn’t be playing. He’s 0-12 so far this season from the floor, in three games, and his presence isn’t conducive to winning. Zeller’s 6 points and 3 boards in 18 minutes wasn’t great, but he appears healed from his appendectomy surgery, and he should be getting Bennett’s minutes. The Cavs are going to have to balance their shepherding of Bennet’s confidence with their desire to actually win games.
- As improved as the Cavs seem on defense, the offense is a mess. The Cavs seem directionless offensively in the last two games. I’m not sure why we don’t see more pick-and roll sets with Andy and Kyrie or Dion and Tristan, etc.
- A reason for that is probably because Earl Clark is not a floor stretcher as a starter, allowing defenses to overload on everyone else. Perhaps Gee or Miles should be starting. Gee isn’t exactly killing it, but his steals lead to transition buckets, he was hitting the corner three in pre-season, he runs the floor, and he finishes well in transition. I’d hate to move Miles to starter and lose his scoring off the bench. Clark might be better served getting Bennett’s minutes at power forward off the bench.
- Mike Brown’s offensive message was “keep it simple” out of a third quarter timeout. Really? That is worthless fortune cookie advice. Three games into the Cavs season, and the question on Mike Brown seems the same. Can he coach offense?
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Kevin R – I agree with just about everything you said. In addition, I would like to see people (Varejao, TT) in position to receive “dishes” from Dion and Kyrie when they go to the basket . . . and for Dion and Kyrie to feed them more consistently. It happens on occasion – but not nearly enough. Yes, too much 1 on 1 from Kyrie. Too often it seems like he decides whether he’s going to shoot as he brings the ball up the court, not after moving the ball around and taking advantage of an opportunity – like… Read more »
I’m not sure how one game’s loss by 15 points turns into an example of ‘bad MB’ offense. Telling guys’ to Keep It Simple is a mantra – and basketball is inherently a simple game. A lot of what we’ve seen the Cavs struggle with on offense has been execution. When I’ve watched the 3 games they’ve played so far, we’ve seen success from the older vets on this team and a lot of growth from TT. The honest to goodness truth is that right now, Kyrie and Dion aren’t pulling their weight and Earl Clark has been an exceptional… Read more »
If you looked at the schedule prior to the season you would have chalked this one up as a loss. The second night of a road B2B against one of the top 2 teams in the East who had 3 days off? This was going to be an ugly game 9 out of 10 times for the Cavs. You would like to see a few more positives, like Bennett actually making a shot. Here’s a positive for every one- the last 3 years the Cavs were 29th, 26th and 27th in Drtg (pts per 100 possessions). Hold on to your… Read more »
@ Damon Young- Earl Clark rebounds. He is currently 9th in the league at Dreb%, and is averaging 10+ per36 mins.
There is no point in debating Nate. His remarks speak for themselves.
The Cavs’ offense has been horrible, but I don’t understand comparing it to the offense run previously by Brown. In his last two seasons Cleveland ranked 4th and 6th in the whole NBA. I think everyone conveniently forgets the amazing 3-point shooting we had those two seasons (.381 in 09/10 and .393 in 08/09). Surrounding a penetrating Lebron James with knock-down shooters is a pretty good offensive system; it might have even helped a team win a championship last year.
dion/kyrie can’t buy a call
Great insights, Ben. I’ll admit, I didn’t have the time to go back and look at the sets, but your analysis rings true. However, Dedicating 18 minutes to a player who’s posted a -2 PER in 3 games is losing basketball. Like I said: the choice will come down to winning or playing Bennet.
I agree with the Earl Clark hate. He’s supposed to be a defender yet it seemed he was always the one that was a tad late on the rotation out to the Pacer’s open three point shooter.
As far as offense, it’s sad to see a team never use more than two players in a play. No one on the team seems to want to move if they aren’t setting or a receiving a pick. Miles and Jarret Jack are the only ones that even try to cut or get open.
We just shot very poorly. We would have been in it . . . and had a chance to win . . . if we just hit some shots. 7 pts down after 3 qtrs after shooting 35%? Don’t tell me it was the Pacers defense. We just missed open shots. 3 TT garbage shots rolled off the rim in the first 3 minutes.
Indiana is probably the best defensive team in the NBA, so we shouldn’t get too bent out of shape about getting owned. There were some good things in the game. It was the first game that Andy looked like Andy. I mean on the defensive end. His elbow jumpers are all well and good, but until this game, his feet and hands have been uncharacteristically slow. The Bad: We ran basically one set all game. The horns play, aka, our bigs post at the elbows, can be a nice set in guys are actually cutting off the ball and people… Read more »
Earl Clark has been awful so far. Reminding me of CJ Miles early last year, every time he got the ball it was a brick or a turnover. Hoping that he can turn it around like Miles did. If not, a spot on the bench calls.
As a constant Dion apologist, if have to ask…how does he only have one free throw attempt after three games and 38 field goal attempts?
What does Earl Clark do, exactly? I mean, I know he’s a professional basketball player, but what does he actually do on the basketball court? Aside from being a taller than average small forward and having an easy to pronounce name, does he bring anything to the table?
While Bennet looks completely lost on offense I truly believe his conditioning is killing him. Go watch videos of this guy throwing down in college on fast breaks and then watch his blown dunk/layup last night. He just looks perma-gassed. Early season affects some people more than others. Last year – Luke Walton looked like the second worst player in the NBA, behind C.J. Miles. Both guys were quality players after December and Miles actually had a very solid season. I think if by January Bennett still looks too slow/out of synch to score we may have a problem on… Read more »
If you bench bennet you destroy his confidence and ruin his development. Coming off the bench for high draft picks ruins them more often then it helps them.
Oh goodness did we look familiar last night…and not in a good way. There are two very distinct differences between Mike Brown’s last cavs team and this one: 1. No Lebron to bail him out when he fails to scheme a meaningful offensive set. Kyrie is a fantastic scorer, but does not have enough floor spacers right now to make Lebron’s drive-and-kick-or-score work. Lebron had 270 lbs to throw around in the paint, floor spacers or not, and could jump over people. Brown HAS to bring someone else in to run the offense, or use whomever he might have on… Read more »