Recap: Bucks 109, Cavs 104 (Or, the Time Anthony Bennett Made a Basket)
2013-11-07Overview: The Cavs put themselves into a hole against the Milwaukee Bucks thanks to communication issues on both ends of the floor, but Kyrie Irving dug them out of it with great play late in the fourth quarter. He then let the game slip away with two turnovers and a missed three on the Cavs’ three final relevant possessions of the game. In other news, embattled #1 overall pick Anthony Bennett made his first NBA field goal on a pick-and-pop 3-pointer from the top of the arc. It was his only basket in the game.
Cavs-Related Bullets:
ANTHONY BENNETT IS ON THE BOARD, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! In the first half, Bennett stepped out on a pick-and-pop, lined up a three, and let it fly. The ball escaped Bennett’s gravitational field and found its way into the basket. Considering that Bennett’s first 3-point attempt of the game nearly cracked the backboard, it was good to see him finally make one. That said, his overall game looks less like “A #1 overall talent going through growing pains” than “A school bus fire.” He’s clearly pressing, and shot the ball almost instantly every time he touched the ball, to limited success. After his triumphant three, Bennett tried to get his confidence going, but the results were a 5-footer near the basket that somehow missed by a foot and a 20-footer that the backboard prevented from causing serious harm to a spectator. Defensively, he’s trying to be a Mike Brown show hard-and-recover power forward, and he did manage to cut off the ballhandler on pick-and-rolls, which is refreshing to see after suffering through the Antawn Jamison era, but didn’t show the ability to properly recover back to his man — on two consecutive possessions, John Henson was able to get a layup and a deep post-up after setting the screen, and he turned both into points.
Bennett is putting Mike Brown in a tough situation — the only option is to stay the course, and he’s going to have more motivation to get in shape on the court than he would if he was being “eased back” from his shoulder injury, since he clearly didn’t hit the stationary bike that hard when he was sidelined by his shoulder, but right now he just looks pathetic out there.
Good game for Varejao, if an odd one to see — when Varejao was at his best, he was a hybrid player — he was a show-and-recover 4 on defense, and a slashing pick-and-roll 5 on offense. Now he’s finding success picking and popping as a 4-man offensively, and trying to hold down the post on defense. He’s quite competent in both areas, but he’s not playing to his true strengths. The question is whether Varejao is playing out of position due to the personnel around him or because all those years of being the Wild Thing have slowed him down a bit. If it’s the former, the Cavs’ best chance at the playoffs is probably extended Bynum/Varejao minutes when the former is healthy enough to play them.
Speaking of Bynum, not a great game for him. He was rushing his shots offensively, and looked stuck in the mud on defense. The attention he demands offensively has generally led to good things happening that don’t show up on the box score for the Cavs this season (put-backs after Bynum misses after getting doubled, et cetera), but tonight his ugly box score line pretty much summed up his game.
The biggest issue that I saw tonight is that the Cavs’ offense looks like five guys with five different ideas of what’s supposed to happen. The only plays that looked like solid offense were pick-and-pops that led to Varejao jumpers, and while he was money with that shot tonight, that’s not an offense that’s going to take you very far. Everyone, up to and including Kyrie (this was a game where you look at the eight assists in the box score and say “really?”), looks like they have tunnel vision to some degree out there, and I’m not sure what the team is trying to accomplish as a five-man unit offensively. Considering that the defense hasn’t been able to execute Mike Brown’s flood-and-recover system yet, it hasn’t been an auspicious return for Mr. Brown, and I say this as his biggest fan on the planet.
On the defense — the main issue is that the Cavs aren’t stopping the ball at the point of attack, which makes it hard to set up any kind of defensive scheme. Kyrie and, to a lesser extent, Waiters were getting dusted off the dribble almost every time, the paint was far too available to the Bucks’ guards, and the Milwaukee bigs did a good job of finishing when the Cavs were forced to break off of their defensive set and react to the penetration. Nate Wolters should not be getting into the paint at will, because he is Nate Wolters.
Now, onto good things! They happened! Kyrie had tunnel vision, but Kyrie with blinders on is still pretty darn good. Drives to the basket, step-back threes, threes off the dribble from 28 feet, moments where he somehow kept his dribble without having room to breathe and kept the play alive, everything. The only issues were that he had possessions where he flat-out wasn’t looking to make a play, or at least couldn’t create one. Kyrie went 10-20, but I’d say at least four or five of his misses were on shots that simply had no business being taken in the first place.
Dion Waiters is a sixth man. That’s what he played in college, that’s what he should be playing in the pros, and that’s my stance on that. (I’ll hold off on saying “And that’s why Victor Oladipo should be the starting shooting guard” until January.) Off the top of my head, he had one catch-and-shoot three where he actually looked like he was a shooting guard playing off of Kyrie, as well as a nice drive set up by a hockey assist getting his defender a step out of position. That said, he showed serious flashes Wednesday. His first step, going either left or right, is flat-out filthy, and he was able to blow by his man time after time on his way to 21 points on 7-13 shooting. (And again, a few of his misses were on off-balance, contested jumpers that he simply shouldn’t be taking in a crisp offense.)
C.J. Miles has been great off the bench. His athleticism puts pressure on, and the confidence he has in that gatling-gun lefty stroke reminds me (a bit) of Michael Redd, who officially retired before the game. If you remember, Redd was the Ohio State player who spurned the Cavs’ offer to be LeBron’s wingman for more money and #1 status with the Bucks, which led to the Larry Hughes era. I HATE YOU MICHAEL REDD. Just kidding, he was a class act and beautiful to watch on the offensive end of the floor.
Bullets of Randomness:
I watch Cavs games with the opposing team’s local broadcast team. It’s not that I have anything against Fred and AC, I just like to get different perspectives. A game I like to play is “when will the opposing broadcasters mention that Tristan changed his shooting hand?” On Wednesday, it came at the 7:44 mark of the 1st quarter. If someone wants to make a supercut of this, it would probably be a good idea, because I guarantee you it’ll happen every game.
Ovinton J’Anthony Mayo, who was my classmate at USC but is somehow a year and a half older than I am, had a “tip your cap” game. He plays like Kyrie with the parking brake left on — he can flow from a drive into a shot at any time, and if he’s making his shots off the dribble, there’s not a lot you can do. He went 6-7 from deep against the Cavs, with a lot of those shots coming off the bounce. Good on him. Oh, and Gary Neal made a bunch of ridiculous shots as well. It was just sort of the Bucks’ night offensively, which is what they needed to win with so many of their best players unavailable.
The little things are the big things: in a razor-close game, the Cavs gave up a technical free throw on a delay of game violation, and Dion missed five of his 11 free throws. That’s a Dwight Howard performance, and it mattered.
I really like John Henson — svelte, athletic, hard-nosed, knows his game, works for position, and has great touch with his left, which is somehow not his shooting hand. People have mentioned this before, but he might want to go to the Tristan Thompson/Inigo Montoya school of free-throw shooting.
NO GIANNIS? I WANT A REFUND.
@Korey The stat line is good, he played well most of the game, but his late game antics almost lost the last game and it did lose us this one. It’s not always about stats, Boogie Cousins puts up a great stat line, look at his team.
Nice to see Krolik. The Larry Hughes reference brought me back to some of the early days of this blog. It made me wonder: where is Larry Hughes now. Here is the answer: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/534/larry-hughes Anyway, what I was going to say before images of Larry Hughes chucking jumpers stole my concentration, was that I agree with Underdog that there was some improvement in the Dion-Kyrie pairing last night. I’m not sure if it was because they were taking their defensive assignments more lightly and had more energy or if they’re starting to see what they can do when they both… Read more »
My favorite thing last night was the lineup used in crunch time. I think the best lineup we can field right now has Miles at the three, and so the lineup of Kyrie, Dion, CJ, TT and Andy was encouraging to me. If Bynum is ever healthy enough to be available for heavier minutes, we can field a lineup with Bynum instead of Andy. With that lineup we can have some great spacing on offense. My least favorite thing was watching OJ Mayo and Gary Neal becoming super hero snipers from deep for a night. The defense wasn’t great, but… Read more »
Krolik improves this blog 4000%
Did anybody else notice this last night?
“I thought Kyrie and Dion played off each other better than any time I’ve seen them over their first 2 years together. It looks like they alternated being point guards. I think Kyrie got some rest from that . . . and Waiters more touches to get into a rhythm . . . and consequently both shot the ball better. Also, the other team didn’t know who was coming at them from possession to possession.
Varejao knew exactly where to stand for an open look when the two started doing their thing.”
Thanks Jake for that insight on those damn 3’s. Agree with your comment on Jack. He seem more aggressive at Golden State than he is here.
Korey – numbers can be deceiving. AI was a beast in his heyday…but his over-reliance on his own dribble sometimes caused more problems than it solved. For all that you can post a 29, 9 and 5 stat line…I can just as easily find a 9-turnover performance.
Whoa, Krolik sighting!
J Hill, Kyrie had 29 9 and 5. He doesn’t need watch any more of anyone.
Josh – people (including the expert writers) do this all the time. How is it suddenly different when commentators did it. If someone believed that Barnes was a better pick over Waiters back when we drafted them then…that isn’t likely to change much now…because we see Barnes highlights on ESPN (when they show them) and Waiters screwups in the games. So it only justifies their feelings. And while there is some justification to what Hot Sauce said, the manner in which he said it was far from “spot on.”
Irving needs to watch more tape of Steve Nash than Allen Iverson.
I for one love the fire and energy that Dion is bringing night after night (yes I’ve watched every game). You can tell he really believes in what Brown is preaching. Kyrie has the opposite problem of LeBron, he needs to defer more. When you are on and in rhythm like he was in the early part of the fourth, go crazy. But you do not HAVE to take the last shot in every game, Dion was open for the extra pass and had a much better shot available. I’m also tired of watching him wave off the play at… Read more »
Hot Sauce with the best comment I’ve ever read on this site. People who think you can look back and say “If only we would have drafted Harrison Barnes and then Oladipo we would be SO much better, we suck at drafting” are clueless. When you are in the 2012 draft, you don’t say “well in 2013, I bet we will somehow grab the number one pick and a guy named Victor Oladipo will come out of no where to be a big time SG prospect, so let’s go with the SF Barnes this year over the SG Waiters we… Read more »
Hot Sauce – stupid is almost always perceived as a direct and personal insult. Ignorant is something else entirely.
“Analytically stupid” is a technical term – it means bad at “analytics,” which involve math and probability. It was definitely not meant to be personal.
This site is infinitely better with Krolik posting. All that needs to be said. Thanks for the recap.
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Hotsauce – who are you to tell us how to be fans? Fan is short for fanatics. There is absolutely nothing wrong with engaging in polite debate based off of scenarios that we can’t change, of only because we enjoy the fantasy aspect of being arm-chair GMs. I understand that Underdog and I don’t see eye to eye. But I don’t make the fundamental mistake of making it personal when I criticize his viewpoint. You calling people “analytically stupid” is (to use your own words) an “analytically stupid” approach to getting a point across. There is no need to get… Read more »
Underdog – then I think we made the right choice on both of those issues. Barnes has been seriously overrated (or underperformed compared to his physical abilities) since joining the collegiate ranks (and has done nothing to show me that’s changed at the pro level.) When we drafted Kyrie, we needed a player right now. JV wasn’t coming over to the US that year and rumors were being spread that he didn’t want to come to Cleveland. While I didn’t know anything about TT at the time of us drafting him, I was fine with us not taking JV. I… Read more »
My sense is that many writers and commenters here fancy themselves “analytics” types. If you can’t grasp the concept that there is no such thing as a “perfect” draft history, and that it makes absolutely no sense to judge a FO’s draft decisions by looking back 2, 3, 4 years and constructing a “perfect” draft, then you really are analytically stupid.
There is such a fundamental flaw is some (note: I say some) of the criticism here – i.e. a complete lack of how uncertainty and probability works – that the debate is doomed before it starts.
Ben F – You may have wanted Drummond and hindsight is 20-20, but Drummond wasn’t part of the discussion. He was a guy with a Dwight Howard body but didn’t have a clue about how to play basketball (although he was very young). GM’s clearly saw this and the risk is enough to knock him out of the top 5. Because of the demand for bigs, he became a logical choice after 5 and went later on, The entire discussion was between Waiters & Barnes. Similarly, the year before the only discussion was between Tristan and Valanciunas (with a very… Read more »
I thought Kyrie and Dion played off each other better than any time I’ve seen them over the first 2 years together. It looks like they alternated being point guards. I think Kyrie got some rest from that . . . and Waiters more touches to get into a rhythm . . . and consequently both shot the ball better. Also, the other team didn’t know who was coming at them from possession to possession. Varejao knew exactly where to stand for an open look when the two started doing their thing. We always knew CJ was a shooter .… Read more »
Jake — wasn’t saying that Dion should be a 6th man on this team as currently constructed, because Jack fills the role well and there’s no true starting SG on this team. I’m just saying that he’s much more suited to be a 1st scoring option off the bench than he is to be Kyrie’s backcourt mate, due to his set of skills, i.e. he’s better with the ball in his hands.
The cavs only had 9 turnover, which I was really happy about. If you go back and count, there were atleast 5 Oj Mayo/Gary Neal 3 seconds left on the shot clocked fade away threes with a man in their face and 5 Gary Neal one legged floater that found their way in. Caron Butler also had a few shots that bought the Bucks out of some bad possessions. Dion missed five free throws, which is not good, but we finally saw him attack the rim with confidence, which led to 11 FT shots. I honestly don’t know why Dion… Read more »
funnyguy – Barnes is seriously overrated. Yes, he had a good playoff series…other than that…I’d take Waiters over him easily. That being said, I was pretty high on Drummond. I think that a lineup that had Kyrie – Olapido – MEH-SF – TT – Drummond would be pretty nice. And if Olapido isn’t your guy, have Porter in as our SF and a MEH-SG (CJ Miles?) instead. That being said, I think that it’s way too soon to really say anything about a 2nd year player in the beginning of his 2nd year taking on a new coaching staff, adjusting… Read more »
In other news… KROLIK! Welcome back!
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WHy did they allow Majo to camp out at hi sweet spot, (.e. behind 3 point arc mid right side) and drain 3’s all day? Are you kidding me? Everyone watching this game knew exactly where he would take his next shot and the Cavs rolled out a welcome mat for him to abuse them? Where was Master Zen’s (i.e. Mike Brown) defensive scheme on this? As much as Bryon Scott drove us crazy; he would have at least sent someone to camp out there as well to chase him off. Brown seriously needs to have some offensive practice. WHy… Read more »
The defense sucked last night, there’s no way around it, the offense actually played well, but there should have been more driving to the basket, it was john henson and some random white dude and this dude named ‘udoh’ as the bigs on milwaukee…dion seemed to get the message but no one else really did. Congrats to bennett for making first shot but it appears Cavs aren’t setting him up for easier baskets closer to hoop Tristan was AWOL last night and completely getting abused on the boards by Henson who maybe weighs 200lbs The defense just has to get… Read more »
Starting 5 should be Kyrie, Victor Oladipo, Harrison Barnes, Andy, and Jonas Valanciunas. If you think the Cavs drafted perfectly, then you’re a dummy who can’t see that that’s a killer starting 5.