Apologies and Links to the Present: Draft Combine Edition
2014-05-15First off, we send our apologies. In case you didn’t notice, CtB was down for close to a day. Our internet service provider had a major outage. The hipsters who power the datacenter solely through their sense of self satisfaction went on strike because the break room was out of almond milk. There were artisanal picket signs everywhere. Fortunately, the strike ended with an emergency craft beer delivery, and everything is up and running now. Here’s the links.
If you speak Australian, you can check out Tom Reid’s “Believe the Hype” NBA Podcast with Matthew Dellavedova. Delly reports that he’s back home in Maryborough, and that he’ll return to the states next week. It’s a great half hour of what life was like for an undrafted free agent who went from barely being on the team to becoming one of the best rookies in the NBA. Delly praises Mike Brown throughout, and on his Twitter page, thanks coach Brown personally.
Just like to say thanks to Coach Brown for what he did for me and the opportunities he gave me, I’ll always appreciate it.
— Matthew Dellavedova (@matthewdelly) May 14, 2014
Also, you MUST listen to the end of the podcast for the “Come on Cavs. Got to make it happen!” fight song.
The NBA Draft combine measurements were posted this afternoon. Draft Express vroke it down, here, and posted the complete database as well. Jonathon Givony of Draft Express also wrote an interesting piece on the history of the combine, and how agents and players are forcing the NBA to redesign it (again) because of the absence of scores of players.
Can the NBA somehow force players and their agents to come to Chicago somehow, possibly by tying in their ability to attend the NBA Draft Green Room? Could they take things a step further and make any player that doesn’t participate in all league-mandated events ineligible to receive the extra 20% most rookies receive as part of their rookie scale contract? Would that hold up in court without being in the collective bargaining agreement? How do you separate players who are legitimately injured, or still playing with their teams in Europe, from the group of players who are simply marching to their own drum?
Back to the measurements… apparent winners of the genetic lottery? Noah Vonleh has to be at the top of that list. He has the biggest hands in the draft, with a 9.75-inch hand length and a ridiculous 11.75-inch hand width. That’s tied for the third longest and the second widest ever measured. He also has the second widest wing span this year: seven-foot, four-and-a-quarter-inches. Given Vonleh’s outside shooting, six-foot-nine (in shoes) height, and 247 pounds weight, Vonleh has the body and skill set to play either big spot in the NBA. He won’t fall out of the top seven, and could even end up in the top five ahead of Randle and Smart.
Other Winners? Dante Exum is six-foot-six in shoes, with a six-foot-nine-inch wingspan: big for a two guard, and huge for a point guard. Kyle Anderson won too. The do-everything small forward from UCLA measured six-eight, and has a seven-foot-three inch wing span to go with a 230 pound frame. Anderson is guy I would love to see on the Cavs. With his intelligence and body, he’ll be in the NBA for 12+ years.
Not faring so well? Dougie McBuckets measured six-foot-six and a half without shoes, 218 pounds, and has a six-foot-nine inch wing span (but we knew this already). Michigan’s Nik Stauskas had the highest body fat measurement (only half were released): 12.1 percent.
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There will be lots of draft news pouring in over the next few days. Here’s a sample. According to HoopsHype and the Mary Schmitt Boyer Twitter page, the Cavs have had or are going to have interviews with Elfrid Payton, Julius Randle, Dante Exum, Marcus Smart, Rodney Hood, Doug McDermott, and LaQuinton Ross. It’s interesting that three of those guys are point guards…
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On the Cavs coaching front, there’s lots of rumor, and not a lot of hard fact. Sam Amico, on his Twitter page, pushed the notion that the Cavs are interested in Calipari, and noted that George Karl is very interested in the Cavs job and wants to get back into coaching. Hoopshype also threw out the names, Chauncey Billups, Lionel Hollins, Adrian Griffin, Alvin Gentry, and Vinnie Del Negro. They mentioned, as well, that Kevin Ollie doesn’t want to go back to the North Coast. Sam Amico did throw a lot of praise Griffin’s way, and noted that the Cavs don’t even have a short list of candidates yet, but…
West GM on #Cavs: “(Griffin) is the right man, will go about and handle this search right way. Not so sure you can say that about last GM.”
— Sam Amico (@SamAmicoFSO) May 14, 2014
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Not Cavs related (yet), but I leave you with this graphic of Andrew Wiggins.
@Ryan yeah. The almond milk I’m referring to is actually made with soy, not milk. It’s 杏仁豆漿 in Chinese. I liked the soy milk for breakfast a lot, too. And dan bings. And night markets. I could go on and on. Taiwan is the best. I miss it every day.
@Jon, I am “Taiwanese” and just came back from there, didn’t notice almond milk being so popular, soy milk always seemed to reign supreme. Ever try the hot soy milk for breakfast?
Jhill, LaVine is almost 6’6″! Are you confusing him with someone else?
I just started seeing Nukic pop up in mocks to us. Who has the 411 on that guy?
Another question- for those who seem to like Anderson….then why not Dario Saric? An inch or two taller, and a couple years older (more mature).
In all my pining over a sweet-shooting wing with ball skills, I keep forgetting that we have Karasev. I hope the next coach we hire is willing to play him more than Mr. Potato Head did.
I think my list of guys that might be in our spot is Vonleh, Anderson, McDermott, Rodney Hood, TJ Warren, Jusuf Nurkic is CRAZY intriguing.
KJ the last thing we need on this team is another undersized guard.
Would any of you see a scenario where we could take Zach LaVine? The kid has perhaps as much upside as anybody not named Wiggins…
Don’t laugh! Jackson is reportedly considering Walton AS COACH for the Knicks!
Too bad the Browns didn’t pick up Earl Clark along with Earl Bennett. Think of the mismatches! He could post up little DBs in the end zone and outrun bigger linebackers…
@kj
Luke Walton for head coach!
“Gotta Make It Happen!” So good.
Holy Crap that kid jumps high.
I certainly noticed the outage. Keep those hipsters happy!
I’m thinking we can trade down a bit and take Rodney Hood, then shuffle the picks and trade up a little to take McGary. Who knows. It’s unfortunate that our positions of need are small forward and center and the draft is stocked with the other 3 positions.
Nate and I coming together over our man-crush on Anderson. He’s Luke Walton 2.0., only with a physical game! He would be so good for the Cavs!
The almond milk comment made me spit out my beer that I bought at Food n Stuff.
I know you’re just joking, but almond milk is delicious. I drank it all the time when I lived in Taiwan. I don’t know if that makes me a hipster or what.
Richard, I’m just reporting the measurements as they were reported in Draftexpress. I agree with you. It is dumb. It’s even dumber that some guys measure in shoes and some out of shoes. In fact, shoe size ought to be a combine measurement, too. Guys with longer feet are going to be taller when they’re playing “on their toes.” Another weird thing about height? Guys that tall can probably vary at least an inch in the course of a day. Most people are taller when they first get out of bed. Jae Crowder measured 6’4″ and 6’6″ over the course… Read more »
6’6.5″ puts him at 6’7.5″ to 6’8″ ish in shoes. Not really that bad. Would certainly help him to be taller, but it’s a bit disingenuous to give highlights of other guys in shoes and an apparent lowlight of McDermott without shoes. Height in the NBA is actually one of the most frustrating things. All of a sudden Durant is 7’0″ this year when his entire career people have been saying 6’10”, which without shoes becomes even less impressive. Dwight measured 6’9″ without shoes at the combine, as another example. These guys may have grown as they aged, but they’re… Read more »
How could you leave me like this Nate, you know I don’t have any friends.
Anderson is an intriguing player—with his size/ skill level and high basketball i.q.—could possibly play 1-2-or 3 spot—–negatives I have heard not overly athletic ( defensive liability ) and outside shot is average—let the guessing game begin—-we are trading in our ” browns g.m. hats ” for ” cavs g.m. hats “—mr griffin you have a whole lot of ” assistants ” at your service