Links To The Present: Old Point Guard Edition
2014-10-14The Cavs are facing a bit of an injury situation right now. Jason Lloyd is reporting that Kyrie Irving will probably miss the next two preseason games before returning from his ankle injury while LeBron James will be missing one of the next three preseason games to rest. LeBron has a sore back.
“Kyrie moved around a good bit today, not in live practice, but in terms of the drills that we had. That’s a good sign,” Cavs coach David Blatt said. “He’s coming along. We’re not going to rush it, we’re being careful because we want him back on his feet full strength. But he did take a step forward today, no question.”
“I haven’t quite figured it out,” James said of which game he would skip. “I’m going to talk with coach and go from there. They’ve been managing it pretty good. I’m feeling pretty good right now and I want to continue that.”
LeBron has appeared a bit sluggish on the court and hasn’t been playing a ton in the preseason. When he does play, his basketball intelligence is still showing, but he has had trouble shooting. Terry Pluto has more on that topic in his column about the game against Miami.
James spent most of the game passing — he had eight assists. In the first two preseason games, he is shooting 6-of-19. Not sure what that’s about, but his outside shot seems very flat and a bit of line drive right now.
Pluto also brought up the Cavs subpar guard defense.
The defense remains very iffy, especially with how some of the opposing guards are able to drive to the basket with little trouble. When you don’t have shot-blockers, your guards need to play better position defense to make it more difficult for the opposition to reach the rim.
In my eyes, the Cavs defensive problems are related to communication. While they are letting ball handlers get into the paint, it is mainly because players aren’t sure when they are switching coverage, trapping, or showing hard and recovering. There’s a lot of hedged decisions that are creating holes in the Cavs defense. The players need to make firm decisions and communicate said decisions with each other.
ESPN is running a story from their Cleveland Issue online. In the piece, Brian Windhorst rehashes how LeBron got to Cleveland this offseason. If you’re reading this blog and managed to miss how LeBron landed in Cleveland, I’m perplexed, but you can still get caught up.
Fear The Sword writer Chris Manning broke down Matthew Dellavedova’s game yesterday. The verdict is that he’s a three-and-d player.
Everything considered, Dellavedova is a flawed player with a relatively defined ceiling. What he is right now – a scrappy defender with a decent 3-point stroke – is relatively what he’ll be over the course of his career. It doesn’t seem likely he develops above average ball handling skills to be a reliable backup point guard.
I’m not as down on Delly’s ball handling skills. He just needs to get the ball up the court and to one of the Big three or Dion Waiters, or even Andy Varejao. Easy enough, right? He’ll be more appreciated when people realize he doesn’t need any touches to be happy on a team where a lot of guys need touches to be happy. As always, Manning does a really great job of illustrating his points with pictures.
Today is the day of the old point guard. Someday, I hope the Cavs own Kyrie and Matty get to the point where they are lamented like Steve Nash is by newspaper writers. Bill Oram of the Orange County Register wrote a wonderful piece about the past year of Steve’s career.
“For me, this is my last year of basketball, most likely,” Nash said. “So I’m not putting any pressure on myself other than to enjoy and to work as hard as I can. … To enjoy it for the last time is the goal.”
Then he will ride into the sunset. Because that’s how the story goes, right?
But the sun has already set. He’s seen the darkness and it was black and now it’s the dawn of a day that may not play out as a metaphor. There doesn’t need to be a Hollywood ending, because he could have had one if he wanted that and you only get so many of those in a lifetime. He could have retired that birthday night in Philadelphia; right on the spot he could have hung up his sneakers, happy, triumphant and 40.
But he wanted the money and he wanted to go out on his own terms and both of those things are OK.
That’s the thing about being the old man. You decide when it’s time to blow out the candles.
Jason Williams, White Chocolate, has decided to post pone completely blowing out the candles of his basketball life at the age of 38. He decimated his opponent and smothered them with White Chocolate at the Orlando Pro-Am. It’s a yummy site for viewers.
Agree strongly with Nate. Delly is the bomb and will be playing lots this year because a) he is solid and versatile b) he has a real motor c) he is young and not injury prone. I think there will be nights when Kyrie is out and LeBron decides he needs to score more and Delly plays more minutes as a true PG. It didn’t happen in Rio because LeBron went into the game with a plan to get everyone involved, especially Andy and Love. Blatt believes in energy and Delly brings that. We can’t just play all old vets… Read more »
Agree strongly with Charlie E.
I would like to propose a new feature for CTB – something like “Revisiting Thorny Debates – where you re-visit some of the particularly divisive debates that arise in the comment section. The Delly debate is a great example. 3 months from now, it would be good to revisit the debate and see where Delly is. I think a lot of these debates devolve into pure supposition from both sides (myself included), so it would be nice to see how they play out. For the record, I love Delly but I also think realistically he will be a small contributor… Read more »
Put me in the group that is skeptical on Allen signing. Given Miller’s pending ineffectiveness, there’s 20+ minutes a night to fill at the third guard spot, plus injuries (and let’s not kid ourselves that Irving and Waiters are getting through a season unscathed). The third guard will be very important in stretches for this Cavs team. Is LeBron going to play at guard much? I’m skeptical of that, too.
Though I agree with the thorny debates idea. Great idea. I would definitely like to see a midseason series. Debates could include.
Delly: yea or nay?
Love Vs. Bennett/Wiggins
Thompson Vs. Valanciunas
Blatt Vs. (insert coach here)
Waiters Vs. Barnes
Should the Cavs have tried to get more defenders?
Did the Cavs go “too old” in the offseason?
Any other ideas?
Delly: Nay. 10 minutes a game ish. Unless blowouts and such which should inflate his total at the end of the year
Love: Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thompson: He’s fine for this current team
Blatt: YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waiters: Easily over Barnes
No, the Cavs are going to be fine on defense
No, the Cavs didn’t get old
I don’t want your debate opinions. Those are perfectly clear. This is for later in the year, not for now. Did you read Hot Sauce’s post? If you have ideas for interesting discussions for later in the year, great, if not, I don’t need to hear your three word opinions for the 1500th time.
Your posts are almost annoying enough to make me quit visiting this site.
Oops, meant for Cols, not you Nate. Sorry.
I agree with Brian. I’ve never posted a comment, and I’d like my first to say while I appreciate Cols’ optimism for this Cavs season, his posts nauseate and frustrate to the high heavens.
Don’t revisit the “trade for Love” debate. There was some impostor Raoul involved saying goofy stuff!
Forget about waiting for Ray Allen to make up his mind. Sign Williams. SIGN WHITE CHOCOLATE RIGHT NOOOOOW!!
Have to say I strongly disagree with Manning’s article. He spends time showing us clips of Delly’s defense and references his “inability to bring the ball up in summer league,” and gives us no actual evidence of this inability other than his word either in summer league or in the regular or preseason for the Cavs. Oh yeah, and Delly was third in summer league in assists. Did Manning watch the Rio game and see how many times Delly ran the pick-and-roll perfectly? Or see when Blatt got tired of Dion’s one-on-one ball, and subbed him out for Delly? Manning… Read more »
Totally agree Nate. Delly isn’t flashy with the handle, won’t have a lot of pretty no look passes….all he does is figure out where the best place for the ball is, and gets it there, quickly. Everything he does is with a purpose, and he he’s perfectly happy doing exactly that. He’s the perfect backup point guard for this team as it’s constructed.
He’ll be sitting on the bench for most games. I’m sure he’ll get some run in garbage time/blowouts/injuries. Other than that we have the following players who will play more than him
James, Love, Irving, Wait, Andy, Thompson, Marion, Miller, Allen.
Preseason minutes be damned, I guess. Also, have you watched Marion? He looks done.
You named only three guards, one of whom will not be signed until the All-Star break, if at all. The Cavs will rotate solid minutes at the guard position to more than two players (Kyrie and Dion) Delly does not require touches to be an effective player on the court. The Cavs’ other two guards do. Delly plays better defense than either guard ahead of him on the depth chart. Defense is half of basketball. Delly is as good or better of a passer than either guard ahead of him on the depth chart. Blatt’s offense will emphasize passing. Delly… Read more »
Becasue Irving, Waiters, Miller, and Allen are better players and James Jones is a much better shooter.
This is a discussion concerning guards’ minutes and Miller is a SF, Allen is not on this team right now. But I will humor the argument. In the only piece of concrete support you have provided thus far, you state that James Jones is a better shooter than Delly. Every player you mentioned is indeed a better outside shooter than Delly (who remains an above avg corner 3-shooter, nonetheless). Aside from Irving and Dion, Dellavedova is better than Miller, Allen, and Jones in every single facet of the game of basketball. Defense. Hustle. Passing. Rebounding. Ball handling. Scoring within 20… Read more »
I like Allen and Jones as floor-spreaders, but there were times last year when their defensive issues were a net minus for the Heat. Given that the *main* concern with this Cavs team is going to be defense, that’s a serious drawback. Without rim protection behind them, opponents *will* exploit the matchup, and when they were forced to consistently play energetic defense in MIA, their shooting generally slumped. You’ve also got to consider who offsets Kyrie’s still-developing defensive skillset. Elderly marksmen make offense easier, but if the matchups aren’t ideal, they either make your star burn up his energy too… Read more »
Cols, here’s one of your posts on Fts: Impotant Cavs, listed in importance to the team winning in the Finals 1. Leb 2. Love 3. Irving 4. Wait 5. Andy 6. Marion 7. Miller 8. Thompson 9. Heyward 10. James Jones 11. Delly He ranks about 11th. Or 10th if you want to place him above Jones for some reason. So I would like to place him above James Jones and “Heyward” for some reason. James Jones is 34 years old and has played 1122 minutes in the last 3 seasons combined. And the Heat have had more blowouts during… Read more »
Manning is clearly a co-conspiritor with Cols and LeBron to bad rap Delly!
I lost a $200 bet on the Cavs vs the Rockets in summer league thanks to Delly being with Team Aussie. He was great in the first two games.