Kyrie and The Crucible
2014-11-07LeBron James has never played with a high-level true point guard before. Dwyane Wade was the closest thing he had to a guy who could function as a high-level creator next to him, but since Wade is secretly a 6’4 power forward without the rebounding, Miami got away with an inverted situation, having LeBron function as the primary creator, Wade slashing to the basket off the ball, and Bosh providing the floor spacing despite being the tallest of the three.
That’s not going to work in Cleveland. This is evidenced by the fact that it is currently not working in Cleveland. It’s early, but the Cavs currently rank 19th in offensive efficiency, 22nd in True Shooting, and dead-last in assist ratio. The defense is a larger issue, as only the Lakers (bless these horrible Lakers) and the Jazz have a lower defensive efficiency than the Cavs. For those of you keeping score at home, the second-worst defense in the NBA held the Cavaliers to four assists last night.
The Cavaliers need to run an honest-to-god offense, and they need to start running it soon. For that, two things have to happen: Kyrie needs to have a come-to-Jesus moment and LeBron needs to find an effective middle gear.
Let’s start with the obvious first: Kyrie and LeBron are not meshing. Much has (rightly) been made of Kyrie’s aversion to passing this season, but here’s something else for you: Kyrie has two baskets off of LeBron James assists this season. Two. And neither has been for a three-pointer. LeBron’s passing and Kyrie’s shooting should be more of a chocolate and peanut butter thing than an oil and water thing, but here we are.
Right now, Kyrie and LeBron are playing as through they have no idea the other one exists. That’s a problem. The easy thing to do here would be to say IT’S TIME FOR KYRIE IRVING TO MAN UP AND START PLAYING LIKE A POINT GUARD, and it wouldn’t be entirely incorrect. However, things aren’t that simple.
Here’s the first problem with Kyrie becoming the point guard the Cavs need him to be: he’s not being asked to cut out a weakness of his game, he’s being asked to cut out what might be his greatest strength. Kyrie Irving is a guy who uses his ball-handling to create open space for himself and either knock down the shot or drive past his man for a basket.
He’s almost a throwback to the Marbury/Iverson/Francis era of combo guards, but he’s a better outside shooter than any of them were, so he actually does his thing at a respectable level of efficiency. The irony is that while everyone feared “overlap” with LeBron and Wade together because they allegedly did the same thing, it wasn’t really much of an issue. Why? Because while Wade, like LeBron and Kyrie, prefers to take his outside shots off the dribble rather than in catch-and-shoot situations, Wade is freaking horrible at it. When LeBron “forced” him to slide into more of a new-age Barkley role by not letting him handle it out on the perimeter as much but getting more opportunities inside, it was like giving an office worker a promotion in exchange for revoking his privileges to use the office hot-plate to cook his ankles.
To make things even trickier, Irving doesn’t have the explosiveness of a healthy Rose or Westbrook or the court vision of a Chris Paul or John Wall — the girl he came to the dance with, ever since college, has been his efficient one-on-one scoring game built around his ball-skills. Now he’s being asked to ditch her.
While I am saying that Kyrie’s decision-making has been understandable, I’m not going so far as to say it’s been acceptable. When you have the car keys for an offense that includes LeBron James, who is coming off one of the most efficient scoring seasons in the NBA, and Kevin Love, the most efficient inside-out scoring big we’ve maybe ever seen, you should not be coming down and launching shots off a screen and one dribble before the offensive action has any chance to develop. Ever.
Good offense is about putting yourself in a position to make good choices while the defense is forced to make guesses. Kyrie’s handle and shooting ability allows him to put the big man on a string in the pick-and-roll. He’s gotta start using that to create options for his teammates. The shot that opens up when the big man doesn’t show hard enough to shut down the jumper isn’t the goal — it’s the safe foundation upon which truly dangerous offensive options, like a catch-and-shoot Love three, LeBron in the paint, or even Waiters in the corner or with enough space to attack a lane before his man is able to rotate back to him off the ball. And when the ball isn’t in his hands, he needs to be roaming the perimeter and waiting to get a look at a clean catch-and-shoot three — good team basketball isn’t just about making your teammates better, it’s about letting them make you better. Right now, Kyrie is doing neither.
That point about letting your teammates make you better leads me to LeBron James. So far, we’ve seen two versions of LeBron — the one who sits back, tries to set up his teammates when he has the ball, and then gets frustrated because nobody is on the same page yet, and the one who says “Okay, fine, I’ll win the damn game” and just grabs the ball and bullies his way around the basket.
Even with the weight taken off, LeBron doesn’t seem to be able to carry his frame around at full speed, or even 75% of full speed, for 38 minutes a night anymore. It might be the back, it might be old age, it might be him getting his legs back after the off-season, I don’t know, but it’s happening. (That LeBron is shooting under 45% in the paint thus far is more than a little terrifying.)
One possible solution? Instead of oscillating between 50% and 100% effort, LeBron needs to find ways to put his mark on the game while giving 75%. When LeBron’s switch is set to “off,” he’s openly blowing off defensive rotations and standing absolutely still 35 feet away from the hoop when he doesn’t have the ball on offense, unless he’s setting himself up for a post entry pass. I don’t know if LeBron fell in love with Lionel Messi’s game when he took his World Cup trip this summer or what, but in basketball, you can’t stand absolutely still for huge chunks of the game and still be its best player.
Let’s see LeBron stand in the corner on Irving/Love PnRs and actually put the catch-and-shoot prowess he’s acquired to good use. Or boxing out his man when the shot goes up, even if he doesn’t have the spring to grab a rebound outside of his area. Or using off-ball screens. Or setting off-ball screens. It’s going to take a while for LeBron, but he’s got to make the adjustment to controlling the game without the ball in his hands the same way Kyrie has to make to controlling the game with the ball in his hands.
(On the bright side — I’m as happy with LeBron’s free throw stroke, which I have obsessed about unhealthily for years, as I ever have been. He’s not thinking on the line — it’s just one dribble and a confident stroke, with the muscle memory doing all the work. Thinking is always the enemy of free throws, and LeBron’s free throw routines have always been on the longer side, which is why you could usually tell after his first two trips to the line if it was going to be a 7-13 or 11-13 night. My favorite example of this theory is Chauncey Billups — he shot 89.4% on FTs over his careers, and he just sort of disdainfully flicked his free throws in.)
Until next time, campers. This will be a process, but that’s all part of the fun, right? Right? I mean, this is kinda fun? In some ways?
Yes. It won a state high school championship. No reason why it wouldn’t work in the pros.
I just designed two new offenses for the Cavs that are sure to blow up other teams: It’s called the “Nobody gets to shoot until the ball has been passed three times” offense. That would cause the guy bringing the ball up the court to immediately get it moving instead of dribbling (a la Delly). No other rules except that when one passes the ball he has to run to another part of the court. That’s it. Dion’s average would instantly go up 10 pts a game in this offense. After we run that play a few times we switch… Read more »
The Norman Dale Offense!
Cols SHOULD get a guest recap. How funny would that be?
COLS GUEST RECAP (A PRE-CREATION) Cavs look awesome tonight! Nobody can stop this team! There are ABSOLUTELY NO THREATS of any kind in sight! Leb looks good. Okay, he missed that bunny at the rim, but he still looks great! Kyrie showing off his amazing dribbling skills! Look at the way he goes to the hole with authority! Next time it’s yours KLove! Promise! Dion finally into the game. Can’t believe Blatt hasn’t inserted him before now! Just wait though, the fireworks are about to get started! Oh, just missed the long contested two. I really think he was fouled… Read more »
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Panic! at the blog
Still a thing. get over it guys. This team is still going to be great without making any of the moves that have been hilariously typed over here lately.
In other news, i’ll be at the game tonight to watch the beginning of the end for the East. Full report coming.
Wow. It sure didn’t take long for “Panic! at the blog” to get played out.
Cols you need some new material.
Taking an opposite view on all of the drama of week one of the season. I suppose that if guys were sharing the ball, running plays, LBJ was playing with energy and purpose every night, Blatt was playing more than 7 guys, Dion wasn’t the worst version of himself, and they were STILL losing, THEN I’d be really concerned. I mean, they had 6 (6!!!) assists, and got out-rebounded by Utah, played terrible interior D, on the second night of a back-to-back, on the road in a place that LBJ has always had a problem winning, and they STILL only… Read more »
I’m tired of the narrative that Kyrie was a ballhog and played bad against Utah. Kyrie had a 127 O Rating against Utah meaning the Cavs scored 127 points per 100 possessions in his 40 or so minutes. That’s insanely good and most of his “chucking” was when we were down double digits. He passed early in the game and we instantly fell behind. Almost all Love’s points came from the line which doesn’t lead to assists. Most people talking hoops on the internet are smart enough to realize blocks and steals don’t mean good defense but they don’t realize… Read more »
Kyrie handled all the nonsense thrown at him leading up to his extension. All kinds of media types were putting “leaving Cleveland” words in his mouth for 2 years. I think he’ll survive this.
I agree about Lebron. He’s gotta bring it on D, at least. I can see the reasoning for holding back some on O, since he could easily fall into what he’s been his entire career: the guy the whole team depends on. At his age, I think he’s wisely challenging the other guys, Kyrie included, to make some decision on their own. The problem is, they are making bad decisions and the whole machine is breaking down. In a somewhat separate gripe, is it really too much to ask for the team to execute a play that doesn’t involve a… Read more »
UNLEASH THE KRAKEN!
I prefer the newly minted phrase, “unveil the humungotron!”
Almost positive Z could still hit that mid-range jumper. And since no one plays D his shortcomings there wouldn’t be noticed.
This was the article Hot Sauce referenced. https://cavstheblog.com//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////?p=27809 After re-reading it, it’s clear to me that both guys need to meet in the middle. LeBron needs to get off the ball more and actually start moving without it on offense and defense. Kyrie needs to make a concerted effort to move the rock. Everyone needs to start passing more. You can’t blame the lack of assists entirely on Irving. Irving has improved this year, defensively, and LeBron has regressed as an all-around player. LeBron needs to get back in shape and Irving needs to stop getting tunnel vision, and Dion… Read more »
Well said. Its a collective thing. The national media is pushing the narrative that Kyrie is the problem and LBJ is wisely teaching everyone how to be patient. I say “Gag.” LBJ needs to bring it. And, after bringing it, then he can get on his soapbox and teach.
Damn thing done. Not sure if panic is the right word, but 6 assists against one of bottom five teams in the league should be cause for concern. The strangest part for me is that chemistry appeared much better in the preseason.
Hopefully LeBron and Kyrie’s “healthy exchange” will led to a victory tonight. If LeBron and Dion ever do get into a fist fight in the locker room, I’m throwing down my Camel Cash on St. Dub.
I’ve never been one to dog the CtB team but the mass panic over 4 games is insane.
There’s a difference between panicking and pointing out that adjustments need to be made.
“They should be shopping Waiters and a draft pick as we speak.”
I don’t think panic is the right word. Disappointment for sure. Frustration. People predicted growing pains.
But we assumed leadership, maturity, and depth.
And we have LeBron standing still or walking slowly for entire possessions (offense or defense) followed by LeBron calling out teammates after displaying egregious apathy on the court.
Blatt trusting 7 guys to play meaningful minutes.
Dion being the worst version of himself.
Lebron admitted to the passiveness but the stories about the locker room feud are BS. More Windy garbage. I think we gave Blatt way too much credit that maybe he could step right in and win on day 1. He was coaching in Europe. He’s wasn’t a former NBA assistant who saw these guys every night. I wouldn’t be shocked if he doesn’t know the names of the guys at the end of the bench (yes a joke). It will take time. Dion has always been the same guy. You are just looking at him through a different lens now… Read more »
The LeBron stuff is what bothers me. That and the outside narrative that Kyrie played bad because of assists. You realize how few people tweeting that watched the game? He was moving the ball and it wasn’t working so he took over when we were down 15 on favorable 1-on-1 matchups. He hit a buzzer beater three at the first quarter. He played a great game so I wasn’t surprised to find that he had a 127 O Rating for the game, meaning Cleveland scored 127 points per 100 possessions while he was on the court. If either of Miami’s… Read more »
Tom Pestak +2
It’s been a Mike Brown deja vu all over again. We told ourselves for 4 years it was going to get better. Of course we’re panicking.
4 games into the season—-cavs have to understand they are under a huge microscope and learn how to deal with it ( LeBron has that knowledge and experience —the others need to learn / adjust )—-I am upset with the loss to Utah ( although it was a back to back game —-the loss to Portland might be more forgiving after watching the blazers destroy a real good mavs team—-let’s see what happens tonight and when they get some ” home cooking ” before we ” jump off the cliff “—-realize it is not easy —I am as frustrated as… Read more »
“When LeBron “forced” (Wade) to slide into more of a new-age Barkley role by not letting him handle it out on the perimeter as much but getting more opportunities inside.” Ok. I’m confused. So is LeBron our point guard now? What, exactly, position does he play? If he is the point guard, wouldn’t that take a larger toll on him physically? You’d be subbing Delly for LeBron, and Waiters for Kyrie. We saw this fight over the ball with LeBron and Wade at the beginning. And it was ugly. Eventually, Wade deferred to LeBron and things got better. It didn’t… Read more »
Great to have you back John. Good use of words. :)
Also, let’s all remember how, in the FIFA tournament, we were collectively in awe of how Kyrie “ran the team” and looked more like Chris Paul. The dude can pass. The fact that he is not right now is a short-run chemistry issue. For example, Nate wrote the following after FIBA. Give it time and this Kyrie will emerge. “Irving was the man who steadied the ship for the team throughout the tournament. For the first time since I’ve watched him, Irving received accolades not as much for scoring, but for things that don’t always show up in the box… Read more »
It is bad right now. No argument. But they have played 4 GAMES! We need to give Blatt, LBJ, Kyrie, Love, etc. and crew a couple months to pound it out behind the scenes and see where they stand. I understand complaints about effort (wffort is a choice), but complaints about scheme and chemistry and too early to be meaningful. Think about the statement you wrote: “That’s not going to work in Cleveland. This is evidenced by the fact that it is currently not working in Cleveland.” You are literally saying that 4 games provides reliable evidence of what and… Read more »
This is INCREDIBLY fun by comparison to all cleveland sports over the past several years. And to have a good Browns AND good Cavs to cheer for in the same Autumn…it’s almost too much fun to handle. That said…give Kyrie a chance to play 25 games. Give him a chance to adjust to not being the best player on the team…and for goodness sakes give Blatt a chance to work out his own kinks, before making judgements about which guys should do what. This team literally has no clue who it is…and we shouldn’t really have expected anything but a… Read more »
Good article. Maybe it is a larger part of the current problem that LBJ just doesn’t know what to do with himself when the offense doesn’t flow through him and he’s frustrated because Kyrie is shoot first pass second right now. Kyrie is a smart guy and it may just be that he’s overcompensating and trying to win the game on his own, especially because he might be just as confused about LBJ’s on and off effort. I still think Kyrie will figure it out and start to distribute better once guys get more comfortable in their rotations. If not,… Read more »