Recap: Bulls 113, Cavs 98 (Or, Tony Snell +29, LeBron -27)
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The Bulls came to play, LeBron laid an egg. Â A win would have been nice for the Cavs, a loss would have hurt the Bulls more than the Cavs. Â LeBron was -27, Tony Snell, a mutant created when Tony Allen and Ray Allen’s DNA was combined, was +29 and completely dominated LeBron at both ends.
1st Quarter:
Cavs netted the first five points of the game including a LeBron and-1. Â After a rebound, LeBron stumbled against the pressure of Tony Snell and coughed it up, leading to a Pau Gasol and-1 the other way: five-point swing for the Bulls. Â LeBron, seemingly annoyed, calmly stepped into a 3 right in Snell’s eye. Â And that was the last outside shot LeBron made in the half (and he took quite a few). Â The Bulls turned up the heat at both ends. Â Rumors of Gasol’s resurgence turned out to be true. Â He punished the Cavs inside and even stepped out and swished a corner 3. Â And then Tony Snell happened. Â In addition to hounding LeBron like a bulldog, Snell cut right down the lane on back to back possessions and threw down vicious 2-handed dunks. Â The Bulls continued to flash people down the middle of the lane and the Cavs really didn’t do anything to slow them down. Â Mozgov showed some life offensively, tossing in a nice left-handed pop shot over Joakim Noah, and drove from the foul line-extended to throw down a brutal left-handed dunk.
Helllllllllllo, Timo. #CLEvsCHI
— Allie Clifton (@RealAClifton) February 13, 2015
Derrick Rose started attacking, and the Cavs struggled to match the Bulls aggression. Â Tony Snell buried a 3 to end the quarter, giving the Bulls a 30-26 quarter. Â LeBron scored a bit early, and then Tony Snell really punked him. Â Reggie Miller pointed out that LeBron was having trouble getting warm – constantly blowing into his hands.
2nd Quarter:
Immediately in the second quarter, Aaron Brooks took a high handoff from the deep left wing. Â Delly smartly went under the screen, as Brooks was 6 feet behind the line. Â As Delly juked to close the gap, Brooks puzzlingly rose up and fired away. Â Of course, he made it. Â And the Delly haters were out in full force. Â Ah well. Â Â The Cavs went through a huge dry spell where their only bucket was a Mozgov hook shot. Â Saying “dry spell” might imply their shots just weren’t falling. Â But really, they were just getting abused at both ends. Â They weren’t making shots because they’re weren’t getting any easy looks. Â The lead ballooned to 14 and I thought the Cavs were due for a blowout.
#Cavs look completely checked out. Mentally, physically… Still time to re-engage, but no one looks excited to be playing tonight
— Jason Lloyd (@ByJasonLloyd) February 13, 2015
Blatt sat LeBron down and went with an ultra-small lineup, inserting James Jones at the 4. Â So you can imagine, if I thought a blowout was looming BEFORE that decision, I wasn’t feeling too confident after the fact. Â But a strange thing happened. Â The Bulls, who had been, to a man, dominating the Cavs physically, took the red meat and did everything they could to force feed Taj Gibson, posting up James Jones on each possession. Â It wasn’t like Gibson forgot how to play, indeed, he scored all of the Bulls points in the last 5 and a half minutes, save one layup from Joakim Noah. Â But he only scored three times. Â And it had the residual effect of the other four Bulls staying out of the action on offense, letting Gibson go to work. Â It was like watching a boxer that had been destroying a lesser opponent with body shot after body shot suddenly back off and start trying to land haymakers, only to let the guy on the ropes duck under a few swings and regain his footing. Â The Cavs bench at the other end did a great job manufacturing decent looks against the Bulls stout defense. Â Kyrie and Tristan flashed a little buddy-ball and Shumpert drained a much-needed 3. Â When the halftime buzzer sounded, it felt like the Cavs should have been trailing by 20, and they were within seven.
LeBron's 5 turnovers are his most in a 1st half this season
— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) February 13, 2015
Halftime Tidbits:
Charles Barkley summed up the game nicely. Â The Cavs are already on spring break. Â They’re not going to win this game, they’re going through the motions. Â Pretty much.
Funny Tweet:
Every time James Jones takes a jumper, I check Hoopshype for Ray Allen rumors.
— Patrick Duprey (@patrickjduprey) February 13, 2015
3rd Quarter:
The Cavs came out looking to be more assertive but couldn’t get into a rhythm. Â Right off the bat Mozgov was called for a touch-foul as Gasol flopped on a rebound. Â Moz complained, and the refs Teed him up as he walked to the bench with his fourth foul.
Tonight illustrates why #Cavs still looking for another big. Love out, Mozgov in foul trouble leaves them perilously thin in frontcourt
— Jason Lloyd (@ByJasonLloyd) February 13, 2015
The Bulls started the quarter on an 8-0 run. Â The Cavs gradually started getting better shots and even some layups. Â In fact, pretty much every time LeBron drove and didn’t cough up the ball something good happened. Â But LeBron was just being stubborn tonight, and kept launching terrible shots.
LeBron only has four career games with a -27 or worse: http://t.co/RywjbonTCv
— Jacob L. Rosen (@JacobLRosen) February 13, 2015
There was a cool sequence when the ball rotated to Pau Gasol on the right baseline.  He was all alone for a 15-footer which I expected to be automatic.  But he clanked it, and on the Cavs next possession, Mozgov swished a similar jumper off similar offensive action.  He out-Pau’d Pau.  The Bulls kept the Cavs at arms length until the final minutes of the quarter as the Cavs chipped away at the free throw line to close within single digits.  The Cavs inbounded the ball with 24.x seconds left on the clock and here’s what happened.  LeBron slow walked the ball up the court, turned his back to Tony Snell as he crossed the timeline, took some air out of the ball, and then puzzlingly decided to start driving towards the hoop with 10 seconds left on the clock.  The Bulls immediately closed so he kicked to James Jones who decided to fire away a semi-contested 3.  He made it.  (Which is great and all – gotta be positive and whatnot) And it gave the Bulls 6.x seconds for Derrick Rose to streak down the court and throw in a reverse layup.  (More on this later)
4th Quarter:
More of the same in the 4th quarter. Â While the zebras refused to call anything in the first quarter, they were blowing whistles at the mere sight of a jersey swaying in the breeze. Â Every single rebounded ended with a flop and a whistle and the Bulls went into the bonus very early in the 4th. Â Tony Snell drained a 3 with 6:30 left in the game to give the Bulls 100 points, a 14-point lead, and the game. Â The Cavs never seriously challenged again as LeBron continued to undermine them offensively and Kyrie couldn’t get hot from outside.
LeBron done with a -29. His worst in a non-Boston/non-playoff game in his 1,045-game NBA career.
— Jacob L. Rosen (@JacobLRosen) February 13, 2015
Final Thoughts:
Alright let’s do two things. Â First, let’s all agree that in the grand scheme this loss probably means little. Â No need to overreact to the OUTCOME. Â But let’s dive into some of the big problems that manifested during this game, they are instructive.
1.) If you DVRd this game save it for posterity sake. Â You’ll want to remember this game. Â This game almost perfectly captured a few inconvenient truths about LeBron, and to a lesser extent the Cavs in general.
2.) If you didn’t watch this game, you’d see that LeBron scored 31 points on 12/26 shooting. Â And yet, this was one the worst game I have seen from LeBron. Â He was credited with eight turnovers, and it should have been more like 12. Â The TNT crew even explained out of a timeout that it was actually James Jones that was given a turnover of an obvious LeBron error. Â LeBron was being harrassed by Tony Snell as soon as he crossed the timeline. Â Snell was overplaying the living daylights out of LeBron, daring him to drive into the Bulls frontline. Â LeBron obliged by continually chucking up terrible outside shots. Â I mean terrible. Â Like, showing enough hesitation that his teammates didn’t even know where to move and then inching his foot across the 3-point line and bricking the longest of long 2s. Â Here’s his shot chart:
3.) Tonight’s LeBron was Game 5 Boston LeBron. Â Obviously that game may have been the most meaningful in Cavaliers history, tonight is virtually meaningless. Â But the way LeBron approached the game completely took his teammates out of any rhythm. Â You could see them looking puzzled on offense, not knowing where to go, having no idea if he wanted a pick or to clear out or if he was going to drive and kick. Â I really wanted to see him make an adjustment and demand the ball in the post. Â He only tried once, was denied the initial post-entry pass, and never tried again.
4.) There was a sequence in the second half where LeBron stuck his second 3 of the game. Â You could tell from his body language he hoped this would get him going. Â On the next possession he dribbled it up with an extra pep in his step looking to force the issue. Â Tony Snell snuffed this out and overplayed him once again, forcing him to dribble into the lane. Â But he had nowhere to go, the rest of the team probably assumed he was going to launch a heat cheat, and he jump-passed a missile right off James Jones (this is the turnover that JJ was credited with, incredibly).
5.) Kyrie was cold from outside but the rest of the Cavs played pretty well, all things considered. Â I thought Shawn Marion got kind of abused and J.R. Smith too one too many outside shots, but the outcome of this game was really this simple: Tony Snell played like a demigod, and LeBron played like garbage (and dominated almost every possession in which he was involved). Â Snell was +29 and LeBron was -27. Â That’s your game right there.
6.) For all the “LeBron has no help!” people/pundits that have shouted this from the rooftops since he descended upon the league, this game perfectly encapsulates how difficult it can be to play with LeBron. Â Obviously, I want to point out that LeBron is the best player in the game and one of the best teammates I’ve ever witnessed. Â That said, LeBron doesn’t mold his game to FIT IN. Â He is the star, and all the other planets revolved around him. Â If he turns into a red dwarf, everyone dies. Â Short of NOT LeBRON NOT PLAYING (which, incidentally the Cavs were +12 in the 12 minutes he didn’t play) there was no solution tonight. Â The Cavs were going to have to completely shut down the hungrier Bulls if they had any hope of overcoming LeBron’s strange game.
7.) OK, I’ve spent 6 bullet points ragging on LeBron. Â This isn’t anywhere close to a typical LeBron game. Â I’m not going to lose sleep over it (but I will lose sleep over Tony Snell and Jimmy Butler in a 7-game series) but I feel like the Cavs need a contingency plan when this sort of thing happens because it DOES happen from time to time. Â In 2009 the Magic (with the help of some PEDs) just flat out beat The Cavs, and LeBron had a historic series. Â But in almost every playoff run since then, LeBron has had these games pop up where he not only looks out of sync, but the rest of the team has no idea how to overcome it. Â Look he took 26 shots, turned it over (officially) 8 times, and had 4 assists. Â In 36 minutes. Â He wasn’t hiding in the background. Â Maybe the contingency should be using his enormous frame to draw attention in the post, or playing decoy, or running some set plays, or coming around curls from the left side. Â Maybe flying back door just to draw the attention of the bigs to let Kyrie play surgeon with the other side of the court. Â The Cavs — and I think LeBron has to be the most culpable — just don’t do this.
8.) The Cavs reeled off 14 out of their last 16 games before the all-star break. Â David Blatt’s job is safe, Mozgov/Shump/Smith look like the perfect antidote to what was ailing the Cavs earlier in the year, and the Cavs, barring some more #SeasonOfHuh action, should finish the season in the top-4 in the East. Â They’ve made some great improvements since LeBron returned from his 2-week therapy session.
9.) Kyrie Irving isn’t a great defensive player, but I continue to appreciate how hard he is working at that end. Â Hardly anyone is talking about this, but Kyrie’s improved Pick and Roll defense has propelled the Cavs from bottom-5 defensive team to “respectable enough to make a deep playoff run”.
Kyrie's defensive PNR stats look great. I had no idea. He's allowing 0.67 PPP this season on 248 plays.
— Evan Zamir (@thecity2) February 13, 2015
10.) TT and Mozgov were great tonight. Â I thought they kept the Cavs in the game, along with Shumpert.
11.) I liked what David Blatt did tonight. Â He kept LeBron on the bench to end the half, riding the bench guys that were slowly clawing the Cavs back into the game. Â His decision to play James Jones 30 minutes was puzzling to everyone, but it didn’t hurt the Cavs, and what options did he have? Â The Cavs were headed for an early blowout in the 2nd quarter and his decision to go into a quasi-zone and put a smaller defender (Jones) on Taj Gibson forced the hand of the Bulls who got out of their rhythm.
12.) The Cavs lost to the Pacers and the Bulls during this streak. Â They had trouble putting away the Pistons. Â They still have trouble responding to extra-physical teams. Â Mozgov has helped, but ISO-ball is not how you beat the rough-and-tumble grinders. Â Kevin Love would have helped open up the floor tonight, drawing one of Gasol/Noah away from the paint. Â Hopefully these losses serve to motivate the Cavs going forward.
13.) The Bulls still have Derrick Rose, who showed some signs of life tonight. Â Really glad he can’t shoot worth a lick.
14.) OK I want to pontificate over the way the Cavs suck at clock management. Â Has anyone seen the Cavs successfully ATTEMPT a 2-for-1 this season? Â I don’t mean they actually converted on both possessions, I mean they purposefully shot quickly so as to leave the opponent with 32 seconds instead of 25 in order to get another attempt. Â Has anyone seen it? Â I have not. Â The other side of the coin is that the Cavs are terrible at running out the clock. Â If you have the ball and the differential between the game clock and the shot clock is such that the hang-time of a 3-pointer + time to secure a rebound is enough to ensure the other team doesn’t get another attempt….then why on earth would you take the air out of the ball until the 10 second mark and THEN fire away? Â It’s not like you were channeling your inner Spur and running a meaningful motion offense to get the best shot available. You were just pounding the rock 40 feet from the hoop! Â I just don’t get it. Â If you are going to purposely run the clock down then at least do it right!
15.) The Eastern Conference is tougher than its reputation. Â Assuming moderate health, Chicago, Toronto, Atlanta, and Washington will be difficult in a 7-game series. Â Cavs have a lot to work on between now and then. Â The good news is this:
Irving,Kyrie | James,LeBron | Love,Kevin | Mozgov,Timofey | Smith,J.R. This lineup is by far the most used lineup by the Cavs over the last 16 games (not including tonight).  In 183 minutes, that lineup has outscored opponents by 94 points.  NINETY FOUR POINTS.  If you want to sleep easy tonight, maybe just stare at that for a while.
Tom- I’ll echo the two-for-one frustration. Just when I thought the Cavs were making it close just before the half, one could have cut the lead to 7, this is how the last 35 seconds ended the second quarter: 1) Delly pushed the ball up court to Lebron, in an attempt to push the action. 2) With 30 some seconds left, Lebron stops, and backs out to half court, killing (again!) a two-fer opportunity. 3) Lebron watches the clock go down to about 15 seconds, then forces a drive on Snell. 4) Snell creates the turnover. The Bulls race up… Read more »
I don’t get how people are dismissing this loss so easily. A game the day before the All Star break is just as important as the season opener. With a win, the Cavs would have taken a 3-0 series lead on the Bulls. This game was completely inexcusable for Lebron. I don’t get how people say ,” he makes his teammates better” and “he’s the smartest player in the league.” As Tom stated and we all noticed that nobody knows what to do when he honestly goes into bitch mode. It is so painful to watch his refusal to listen… Read more »
And also great recap Tom. I just discovered this blog and you guys post some awesome stuff. You guys really bring your game every night, unlike our Cavaliets
Too bad you made these points after the thread was dead. These comments deserve more discussion than what I have to add here. This is powerful: “As Tom stated and we all noticed that nobody knows what to do when he honestly goes into bitch mode. It is so painful to watch his refusal to listen to ANYONE about anything or give credit where it’s due. Remember when Kyrie looked like he was getting the Cavs going at the beginning of the 4th, and once Lebron came in, he didn’t see the ball for the rest of the game?” Bloggers… Read more »
I think you may have chosen the wrong screen name based on your comments…
I’m going to be the contrarian and not get on James’ case after last night’s game. I’ve enjoyed watching the Cavs this season and he’s been a big part of it. So Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. He gets a get out of jail free card from me after his bad game last night. I’ll be tough again when he’s back on the throne.
To be a contrarian, LeBron displays some bad habits. He decides when he’s going to play hard, and when games matter to him. If he wants to engage Kobe in an egotistical in-game one on one matchup, he does it. The Lakers’ season is lost, but the Cavs’ season isn’t. He says he’ll do whatever it takes. Come off the bench? How about close out on shooters, or make an off ball cut? LeBron has been flat out terrible in transition defense this season. Most of the time, it’s because he’s looking for a ref to complain to. But even… Read more »
I’ve noticed that we have been playing with little fire on the backside of back-to-backs this year. Especially on the road. I fully understand that some drop off is to be expected, but it seems like the Cavs drop off is much greater than most teams. So, even though the All Star game was looming, I think we played poorly because it was the second night in a row.
So I read that, because the Cavs will be over the cap this summer, Haywood’s contract has more trade value before the trade deadline. Even though half the teams in the league won’t trade with us (“Why help the Cavs out anymore?”), I’ll bet well see another trade to shore up our big man depth problem – revealed in last night’s game.
Total agreement with Joey and dr.puck… good calls guys
There’s no way LBJ was executing Blatt’s game plan. This remains the Cavs’ #1 obstacle in the way of their undeniable talent being empowered to flourish. I maintain that Blatt is a far superior coach than is LBJ. “Mozgov has helped, but ISO-ball is not how you beat the rough-and-tumble grinders.” Yes. In fact, the Bulls did to the Cavs what the Cavs should have done to the Bulls. Go strong to the hoop, try to put Noah in foul trouble, free up your team attack. Last night LBJ took Kyrie out of his game. This was the astonishing result… Read more »
JOEY B GREAT PTS ON KYRIE—AGREE WITH YOUR THINKING ON KYRIE AND LOVE THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHT AND GROW THE FUTURE ON
GREAT recap. Best one I’ve read at CTB in the 6? years I’ve been visiting. I say that, of course, because I agree with all of it and I think I’m a genius. Even so, great read. Its so weird, these games from lebron. I didn’t watch the game, I hardly watch any of them because I live in LA and don’t have cable. But I follow online, and I can tell in the first ten minutes of the game, just from looking at the shot charts and game clock, when Lebron is having one of these stupid games. I… Read more »
wow. thanks man.
And since I know I’m a genius, now I have confirmation that you are as well.
Kyrie’s done a fantastic job this season of picking his spots and very rarely getting the rest of the team out of rhythm.
And his defense…..I’ve been so impressed.
I enjoyed the recap better than the game. A bit anti-climatic for a game starting into the all star game. players were upset i bet. just an aside though. delly plays tonight in the futures game right? the bulldog is going to be exhausted but never turn down a chance to play at MSG.
Speaking of which, $MSG (for cols the investment advisor) gets a 12% profit margin and 4% return on assets. Anybody want to guess if the amare, melo and bargnani contracts had any material consequence on their asset line-item?
our not having both love and andy ( who we had early game ) was huge against their big last night—that is why I think the cavs need to get a reliable back up big for 12–15 minutes a game/ 6 more fouls —come playoff time—could you imagine what timo and andy would be doing together
here is a question to throw at all you bloggers—ENES KANTER wants out at Utah—-if they would agree—would you trade T.T. straight up for ENES —-gives us a huge post presence / depth—-takes t.t’s contract out of the question—–just thought I would throw that out for you bloggers ” to chew on ” and throw your thoughts out threre—–we do need to go out and get a back up big before the trade deadline our pick one up
Probably not. As much as I HATE TT’s hooves for hands, he does provide a “big” that can hedge and play aggressive on the PnR. In addition to his energy, I think he is a necessary piece of this puzzle because the Cavs can look downright lazy sometimes. The problem is that we lost Andy (who would provide seriously valuable minutes) and Haywood is a complete waste of space.
Nope. Kanter is an offensive player. We don’t need more of those from our bigs, especially. We need another defender, which is Kanter’s weakness and Thompson’s strength.
Agree with Joey B… He provides the frontcourt defense that’s sorely needed.
Kanter kan’t defend… He kan score and rebound, but he kan’t defend or rebound like TT… Plus he’d cost more to sign than TT. Kan’t see it happening… kan’t do it… just kan’t…
That post is the thread winner, EG. Awesome.
We should have a thread winner every thread.
This game showed how valuable Andy was to this roster. With a healthy Andy we win that game going away. Without him AND Love we don’t stand a chance LBJ -27 or not.
Andy has always played well against Noah and given him fits.
Good observation. Despite Mozgov’s contribution, Andy would be sorely missed in a series against the Bulls.
Great article Tom. Thanks for sacrificing your time to write it for all of us. More comments later . . .
I want to see Kevin Love to start wearing an eye patch like the Governor from the Walking Dead. I also want to see him take on his badass persona.
Nice Recap and Podcast, Tom. Great stuff. The ragging on LeBron in this game is completely warranted. His handle is not as tight as it used to be. A lot of that is due to the slight drop off in explosion. Bron must decide to play the game with fewer dribbles. Literally every conceivable avenue for that to happen is good. More post play, less PG, less holding at 30 feet, etc. LeBron doesn’t enjoy playing PF, and honestly, he hasn’t played PF nearly as much as people think on the defensive end. Shane Battier took care of that. But,… Read more »
Yep. They’ve lost two games in the last 16 yet panic sets in. They are 2-1 against the Bulls, yet panic sets in. This Cavs team is great. If LeBron had been healthy all year is there any question who would be the #2 seed in the East? Nope.
They will roll through everyone. No one has the talent to match up against us.
Whose panicking? There’s a difference btw panicking and being critical.
Panic is just a word that Cols likes to throw around with abandon when anyone criticizes the team… or more specifically LeBron. It’s his blanket defense for whenever the Cavs play poorly because he’s gone so far the other way with his exuberance…
Don’t you think that LeBron realized early on that the rest of his team was sucking last night? That Irving wasn’t playing well and they didn’t have Love so he was going to need to score a ton of points to win this game. So he tried to take on the Bulls by himself and failed. It’s not a big deal or even a big loss. I’m glad LeBron tried to win the game, otherwise we would have had zero hope. It turns out that when the Bulls play their very best, the Cavs are missing Love and their two… Read more »
The team was sucking because LeBron wasn’t passing and getting them involved. He was just chucking contested 3s and turning the ball over left and right. If he allowed Blatt to run some plays I think they would have had a better shot at winning. The team played much better with him on the bench and his +/- of -27 reflected that.
Your framing of X player playing and Y player not playing isn’t as black and white as you make it when it comes to playing a series in the playoffs.
Yeah, I’ve only seen the highlights and a few bits and pieces of the first half, but it sure looked like LBJ was their biggest issue last night. I agree that it’s not a big deal, mostly because I think he and Kyrie seemed like they were checked out and had their heads into ASB weekend already…
LBJ took responsibility for the turnovers. They learned their lesson… don’t defend, don’t win.
To me an underrated storyline here is KLove. This game should stop everyone from wondering whether KLove is a critical piece of this team. Without him, our rebounding was terrible and, yes I will say it, our interior D suffered. K Love is not an elite defender, but he has become an effective position defender AND he is a great rebounder. Without him against a team like the Bulls, we needed the Kyrie and LeBron show to go off. It didn’t.
KLove is the the man. Get well soon.
This. I hope it gives KLove a little confidence that this team NEEDS him, even if he only scores 5 pts on 1-7 shooting.
Apparently Lebron is temperature-sensitive. We’ve seen him cramp when the AC “broke” in San Antonio and we’ve seen him turn the ball over 9ish times (felt like more) and puke up brick after brick when the Blackhawks ice was under the court. If it were the Bulls and had to play the Cavs in a series, you’d bet we’d have some “technical difficulties” removing the ice until after the series was played.
Thanks for the recap. I missed this one live but sounds like it was a frustrating one to watch.
Geez… I’m really glad I missed this one… But thanks for the recap Tom! It saved me from wasting an hour or so of time with my DVR… Had a feeling the Cavs would have a letdown in this one. Second night of a back to back against a Bulls team that needed to prove they could beat the Cavs… and without KLove to space the floor and do the dirty work on the glass… It does sound like LBJ was horrible though… maybe his head was already in NYC. 8 (9) turnovers is as many as the whole Bulls… Read more »
EG, you got to see this game to see what I was talking about.
Yeah, from the little I saw from the highlights and the late TNT replay, it’s almost as if LBJ read the live thread from the Heat game and said to himself “I’ll show you what W is talking about EG…”
Hey EG! I think all of the criticism James Jones is receiving from the peanut gallery is undeserved. He was the best sub besides Shumpert. He spaced the floor, came up with some gritty defense a few times. Yeah, probably shouldn’t play 30 mpg, but I’m personally glad Blatt went with him, and not Miller or Matrix.
But how does he go 2-8 from three if that’s literally what he’s here for?
I believe that’s a product of being out of the rotation for the past couple of weeks. He hasn’t played in the regular rotation in a long time… hard to just snap back into rhythm without playing time. The Cavs made two runs during the game, both with Jones on the court. Best sub besides Shumpert last night. I think Blatt realizes his value and is starting to use him more and more, over Miller certainly, possibly over Matrix. Made a few defensive plays making shots difficult with his length. Can’t rebound worth a lick, but no one was last… Read more »
Good point, CLF. I’d like to see Jones get some floor time every night. If he doesn’t get stale on the bench, he will be valuable at some point shooting threes. If he’s always on the bench his ability to give us points off the bench or clutch shooting will diminish.
Enjoyed reading this! Hit the nail on the head on all fronts! Jones wasn’t helpful at all. Agree it did not make sense he got 30 mins. Your criticism of Lebron is fair. He has got to take these turnovers in which opponents like the Bulls do score seriously! ESPN this morning did say Bulls were more desperate for the win and more to prove than Cavs. They thought Cavs could possibly be focused on All Star week and check the game out. It turned out true.. Now this game did shed more light on just how valuable Love is… Read more »
Actually, in the recap, Tom applauds Blatt’s decision to go with Jones. Jones was helpful. He was the second best bench player besides Shumpert. If you watched the game, you would’ve noticed they made their runs with Jones in the game in both halves.
I did watch the game so please don’t assume I didn’t because I didn’t share your view. I am hardly in the minority on not seeing Jones contribution as effective enough to make a difference to get a win. I was referring to the quote “His decision to play James Jones 30 minutes was puzzling to everyone, but it didn’t hurt the Cavs ” wasn’t exactly a ringing an endorsement. From local papers to the ESPN correspondents shared the bewilderment of playing Jones that many mins. That wasn’t really the overall problem as the brilliantly laid out point by point… Read more »
I didn’t assume anything, which is why I said “if”. I apologize for not assuming, I didn’t know it would hurt your feelings. I’m basing my opinion of the evidence that the Cavs were able to close the margin when Jones received the majority of his playing time, not whether the media or the majority agree with my opinion. It was obvious he received the playing time because Love was hurt, and Matrix was ineffective when given time. I would agree 30 minutes is a lot, and he most likely would be more effective in shorter spurts, but it was… Read more »
I don’t get this logic that the Bulls needed this worse than the Cavs. Winner is in first place in the central. Cavs schedule gets much harder after the all-star break. Cavs need to be 2nd or 3rd in the east. Can’t afford to be in a fourth or fifth seed, get beat up in the first round, and then have to play a well rested Atlanta in the second round. Every time I think the Cavs are legit contenders, they mail in a game like this. Thought your comments on how difficult it is to play with LeBron were… Read more »
Just trying to make myself feel better, Nate. Cavs have played a lot of games recently. They didn’t show up tonight. Bulls wanted to make a statement.
I console myself with pessimism.
They can be any seed. They’ll need to go thru Chi and/or ATL. Then the West. So be it. This loss was tough but not the end of the world. I get the feeling that many of these guys they acquired aren’t rentals. It would suck to be bounced this year but imagine this squad back for another season.
I think about this a lot. Remember Miami heatles in year 2? They were like…terrifyingly smooth. Imagine another year older Delly…another year smarter Blatt…a freshly signed and fully committed Kevin Love…and another year more of defensive wrinkling (and maybe another year warmer for lebron’s poor blood circulation or something?…no wonder he can’t dribble anymore). We could conceivably eke out a championship this year on some streaky shooting down the stretch…OR we could lose the finals and come back all spursian motivated next year and wreck the league for 70 victories and a title in 4 clean sweeps. Fun to think… Read more »
I would never have guessed that’s how Nate consoles himself…
Haha the logic is that hopefully, just hopefully, Kevin Love is far more important to this crew’s success than we realize…and Lebron was laying an egg to send a cryptic message to Love that he is needed, and that message is far more important than winning the game and taking over first in the central. Lebron will later tweet: “that -29…that was no accident.”
How super BRASS would KLove be if he tweeted something like “That’s how you Fit OUT” or “No Coincidences…” and then played like he was just tweeting it to the world when the reporters asked him…
That would be so dumb.
You say dumb… I say awesome…
Don’t be so myopic Cols…
That was awesome, EG. The problem is that James lives by one standard and everyone else by another. Winning makes it ok. For now. The thing is, James would be even awesomer if he wasn’t ball dominant and played within the offense. Everyone knows that but he’s going to do what he wants to do.
LeBron didn’t want to give Markieff Morris any credit either: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/566093584089509888
Awesome work, Tom. I missed the game tonight and came on here ready to read through all of the Live Thread comments. Was pleasantly surprised by a full recap and a Cols comment to let me know everything will be A-Okay.
Thanks – I have to be at work early tomorrow so I kinda rushed this one. Apologize for the typos nate is patching me up as we speak.
Can you guys imagine Cols offering financial advice?
“So you lost a few million, and your identity, and you didn’t sign a pre-nup. Look at how nice it is outside. Plus, your shoes are so shiny – those shoes just scream success. You’ll be fine.”
Or a lawyer…
Cols: “You have no proof that my client is guilty…”
Prosecution: “We have the murder weapon with your client’s fingerprints on it… three witnesses who say it was him… and the video evidence he shot with his own cameraphone…”
Cols: “Yeah, but look at him! He’s the best defendant ever! Look how nice his suit is!”
I’d be a great financial advisor. I wouldn’t panic!!!!!! because something happened, I’d stay the course. I understand that there are ups and downs in the NBA and that even great players (not named Michael Jordan) can have off nights and if both of your stars are off on the same night your other star is out injured and the Bulls get their best performance of the entire year it’s going to be tough to win.
But I also know that this doesn’t mean anything at all because in the long run (we are all dead) we have invested wisely.
I will sleep easy. Best first half of cavs basketball we’ve had in four years. I know no one can beat us in a series. Cavs are 2-1 vs the Bulls. That means we win the series in 5.
I don’t get your logic or math, but okay?!?!?!?!?
These aren’t the droids you’re looking for…
Did you not watch last night? The Cavs certainly have the talent to win the East. But it by no means is a sure thing. Chicago at full strength poses significant issues for the Cavs. Ditto the Hawks. The Bulls front court is big and deep and, as we saw last night, if the Cavs thin front court gets hurt or in foul trouble, the Cavs simply lack the depth to compete. It is abundantly clear that the Cavs need a fourth big over a Ray Allen type. Unfortunately, those types of players are scarce so not sure if the… Read more »
It’s a sure thing. So far we are 2-1 vs the Bulls and it took a monster Derrick Rose and Tony Snell effort minus Kevin Love for them to get that one.
I doubt a series with the Bulls even goes 6.
The Bulls were also missing their best player in Jimmy Butler. If we play them in a series, there’s no reason why it couldn’t go 7 games.
I guarantee it won’t go 7 games. The Bulls just do not have the talent. They didn’t have Butler but Snell played much better than Butler would have anyways.
If Jimmy Butler is your best player, your team is in trouble.
They have Butler, Rose, Pau and Noah who are/were All-Star candidates at one point. That’s talent! We could win this series or lose this series. There are no guarantees.
not much to say after a bummer loss. just surfing around about to crash out and saw a FULL recap and its not event 1120pm. I salute you tom! You guys at CtB are blogging beasts! Thanks.
I take forever to write so i started trying to knock out the first half during halftime. In close games I usually spend a lot of time on the 4th quarter – didn’t need that tonight.
But yeah, we aim to please!