All-Star Roundup, and who Would Help the Cavs? — w/ a Haywood Contract Update
2015-02-16LeBron moved into second place all time in All-Star game scoring with 30 points last night– including 15 in the first eight minutes — but he missed his third MVP trophy when Russell Westbrook went off for 41 points to lead the West to an All-Star game victory last night.
There was a flurry of fluff over the weekend, and it’s impossible to list every interview or soundbite, but one thing of note, LeBron James was elected Vice President of the NBPA, joining president Chris Paul as the top players in the union power hierarchy. Count me in the group that thinks having two max players at the top is bad for the rank and file NBA guys. Their focus is going to on improving contracts for the guys at the top of the salary structure, not the middle or the bottom. Of course, I’m an old school prole. I’m always wary of the rich. If there’s one guy who knows how to leverage his image for gain, it’s James. For all the LeBron news about him holding court at the All-Star game, click here.
J.R. Smith provided my highlight of the weekend (above), by participating in the NBA All Star Weekend fashion show, SI reports.
With the All-Star game in the books, the talk now turns to the NBA trade deadline, which is Thursday the 19th at 3PM. The Cavs are in the middle of a few rumors, but nothing is really concrete. Let’s take a look at who’s out there in trade or as a free agent, and who could help the Cavs. While the Cavs’ biggest needs are probably another big and another guard, they’d add a wing if the price was right.
Chris Manning at FearTheSword aggregated the Jason Lloyd and Mark Stein tweets for a report that the Cavs are not pursuing Amare Stoudemire. Besides, they’d have to give up J.J. Hickson to get him, right? In seriousness, every rumor I’ve read says Dallas is the frontrunner. There’s probably not enough shots to go around here for Amare, ayway.
Speaking of wings, all’s quiet on the Ray Allen front…
Despite rumors that Ray Allen would decide about playing over All-Star, teams haven’t heard if he’ll play. Still no timetable for decision.
— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) February 16, 2015
There aren’t a lot of guys directly linked to the Cavs, but the Cavs are in a tough spot. If the Cavs look to only move Haywood, Harris, and (say it aint so!) Dellavedova, they can only take back slightly over five million in salary. Of course, if Cleveland relaxed their stance on James Jones, Mike Miller, and Shawn Marion, they could have some more flexibility. But with guaranteed contracts and powerful friends and agents, those guys are harder to move.
Count me in the camp that wants no part of Michael Beasley or Andre Blatche. Blatche had an excellent FIBA tournament, and has dominated in China to the tune 31 points and 14.6 rebounds per game. But have you seen clips of guys playing in China? It’s basically Americans and some Euro pros combined with Chinese guys that look like they couldn’t start for Saint Ignatius. It’s a weird league. And I don’t think Beasley will ever screw his head on right. I doubt LeBron wants to relive that adventure. LeBron is a lot of things, but someone who puts up with knuckleheads isn’t one of them.
So let’s look at guys who could help the Cavs. One of the guys at the top of my list? Henry Sims from the Sixers. He is a solid defensive big who can play both spots, doesn’t need to score much, and is on a minimum contract, so the Cavs don’t need to trim the roster to get him. His moratorium on being repatriated to the Cavs is over, too. The only problem, is the Sixers don’t need more middling draft picks. They’d probably rather just hang on to Henry.
Sacramento is a mess. They have rebounding specialist and general thug, Reggie Evans on a vet minimum. The Cavs could use a thug. But at 34, with a 42% field goal percentage and no shotblocking ability, are six hard Reggie Evans fouls worth the risk that he’s going to do something really stupid in the playoffs? You know who might be available though? Darren Collison, and his very reasonable $4.8 million contract. Now would Sactown be stupid to trade a starting point guard on such an affordable contract? I’d offer a first rounder because yes, they’re stupid, and they might actually need that Haywood contract. (HOW?) Sactown also has Ryan Hollins and Razor Ramon Sessions. Let’s just move on.
Jerome Jordan of the Nets is a seven-footer who shoots 59% from the field, and 83% from the line. He boasts a 17.5 PER, and is on a minimum contract with decent per minute shot block and rebound stats. Cavs could do a lot worse, and he’s an RFA after this year.
The Pelicans have a smorgasbord of big men: Omer Asik, Alexis Anjinca, and Jeff Withey. I’m sure they’d love to unload Asik, but the contract doesn’t work and Anjinca has been electric as a backup center with a 20 PER. I’m guessing Withey would be available for the right price. He only plays 6.6 minutes a game, but averages almost a block every ten minutes with a 17 PER. But do the Cavs have an asset the Pelicans want?
Orlando has a ton of serviceable bigs. Kyle O’Quinn is my favorite. Another guy on a minimum contract, he’s a defensive maven who’s lost on that team. He’s a restricted free agent and would give the Cavs some leverage with Tristan Thompson next year. I’d give up a future first for O’Quinn. Dewayne Dedmon is another guy who fits the bill: an undrafted player on the second year of a minimum contract who sports a 1.44 DRPM. The Ghost of Luke Ridnour plays in Orlando too.
I brought up the Lakers’ Robert Sacre‘s name the other day. He posts a 2.29 DRPM and has a bit of thug to him. I like him. There’s Lots of Ed Davis fantasies out there among CtB readers, but I’m betting the Lakers hang on to him to try to re-sign him. But who knows? David is a guy that L.A. could maybe turn into a first rounder. He’s a very solid player with good percentages and splits, and a total RPM around zero. Wayne Ellington also needs to be on the Cavs radar. With Irving and LeBron, Ellington can play at the one in stretches, and his shooting would do wonders for this team. I’d even park Delly on the pine for Wayne. Haywood pick and a first rounder for them, so that LA can use it when they get over the cap? Maybe even a conditional pick?
The Knicks Cole Aldrich is a guy I’ve always liked. He boasts an RPM just under 16 and is a big body. He has an ORPM below -4. (Is that possible?) That has to be cause he’s on the Knicks, right? Pablo Prigioni is there too. He’s a 37 year old ball hawking guard who can play point and shoot 37% from three. Solid third (or backup) point, right? Why not just get half the Knicks squad?
Miles Plumlee from Phoenix is available, and Phoenix is one of those teams that could actually use the Brendan Haywood contract next year. Plumlee only shoots 50% from the line, and that leads to only a 13 PER, but he does post a 1.74 DRPM. Also, Plumlee is on the hook for a reasonable $2.1 million team option next year.
Denver’s Darrell Arthur… 6’9″ guy who has played center before, and shoots 25% from three, but takes 2.3 a game… His splits: 42%/25%/81% 7.5/3.2 . He does sport a very good 1.19 RPM but only a 12.98 PER. Darrell’s a little too small to back up Mozgov, and his $3.2 million salary is a bit tough. When it comes to guards, I feel like saying “Jameer Nelson’s available” is the basketball equivalent of the Sprint Hamster saying this.
But hey, if you want to replace Delly with a guy who finishes just as poorly, has lost his defensive chops, and isn’t hitting at the same clip from three, be my guest. To wrap up, my favorite option is probably Sacre and Ellington. Ellington can play point on this team, and did some ball-handling the first time he was in Cleveland. But Henry Sims, Prigioni, and/or Orlando’s bigs would great additions.
— Update —
Arch Stanton makes a great point about the Haywood contract, but let’s not forget why other teams are interested. Just because the Cavs can’t use it in a sign and trade because they’re taxpayers, doesn’t mean it’s not incredibly valuable. Here’s a list of all NBA salaries for next year. Look at guys making around $10 million next year. There are a ton. There are gettable guys the Cavs could get with the Haywood contract this summer. It would be very very shortsighted to move the Haywood contract now. Also remember that the Cavs can add existing salaries to Haywood’s contract. It’s not like a salary exception. Mike Miller is untouchable for this season, but for next? The Cavs could combine it to add a guy like Iguodala…
Notable guys on this list by salary, in the millions: Andre Iguodala $12.3, Larry Sanders $11 (if you’re into that sort of thing), Danilo Gallinari $10.9, Ryan Anderson $8.5, Channing Frye $7.8, Isaiah Thomas $6.9, Marvin Williams $7, J.J. Redick $6.9, Jarret Jack $6.3, Jason Thompson, $6.4, Josh McRoberts, $5.5, Spencer Hawes, $5.5, Shaun Livingston $5.3, Victor Oladipo, $5.2, Tony Allen, $5.2, Otto Porter $4.7, Kris Humphries $4.6, Ian Mahinmi $4, Marreese Speights $3.7, The Morris brothers $8 and $9 million, and a very very intriguing Kenneth Faried whose $12 million 2016-2017 salary will be a bargain.
The cap is going to explode in 2016-2017. It might increase to $90 million. Guys on this list with contracts going into 16-17 might end up being an absolute bargain.
A fun vid for you guys
Watching delly and smc battle gonzaga were some of the most great games I’ve seen in college ball.
Sacre vs delly
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B7qn6M7-dzI
For the record smc won ;)
Plumlee may be the only big out there that I’d give up the Haywood contract now for. He’s young enough and has enough potential that I’d be willing to potentially sacrifice a “major addition” this off-season by combining Hays contract with others for a 10-12M type guy. Besides Allen (who will either sign with us or not), of all the names mentioned to this point I think Plum is the only one I can see being a big part of our future beyond 3 years from now. There have also been rumors that Kanter wants out. If that’s the case,… Read more »
All we need is a Plumlee. Any Plumlee would do.
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2015/02/ranking_lebron_james_100-plus.html
Really cool article with a database to rank all of Lebron’s team mates throughout his career, statistically. Rebounding wise, he has never been surrounded by more productive big men. in fact, according to the database, this may be the best supporting cast he has ever had in his career.
But if we could just add a Plumlee man, and Lebron would promise to move the ball and contribute to a free flowing offense, hello dynasty.
Man, all we need is a Plumlee. Legit, that is all we need.
Unrelated, but satisfying: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/six-seconds-to-perfection-the-best-nba-vines-of-the-season/
Dion and KLove get the um, star treatment. KLove’s Vine made me laugh out loud, then feel kinda sad. Dion’s just made me feel sad.
Let’s keep in mind history, Cavs fans. The last time the Cavs were in contention for a title (2010) they traded to get Antawn Jamison. Sure, they got Ilgauskas back, but I thought he had less confidence after being stabbed in the back by management. And Jamison hurt the Cavs badly, as his offense stayed in Washington and his defense was atrocious. Sure, they also lost in the playoffs because Shaq’s tank was empty and Lebron had the strangest series of his career, but another cause of that playoff failure was the flawed mindset in mid-February that adding a piece… Read more »
But that 2010 team had to do something! Their second best player was Mo Williams. I still can’t believe that LeBron willed that team to 66 wins. Just an amazing performance.
This team has a ton more talent, so yeah sitting back and doing nothing makes the most sense to me too. I will allow an exception though for Ray Ray.
For all the LeBron bashers on this site, go read this
http://www.fearthesword.com/2015/2/17/8047549/lebron-james-utilizing-experience-and-becoming-real-leader-key-to
Cols, put out that reefer — there are NO LeBron bashers on this site. There are people who think he does not walk on water all that well, and could at times play smarter.
There are plenty of LeBron bashers on this site. This is the key to me:
“Blatt may very well be an offensive genius, but in the NBA there really aren’t magic plays. The Cavs have the best offense in the NBA since James returned from his two week hiatus, and it’s come with heavy Pick and Roll or Pop options that every team in the league is well versed on.”
Agree with DaveR that Griffin seems to have a good read on the pulse of the Cavs right now. If he felt okay pulling the trigger for Larry Sanders then I would fully support that. Sanders would be a perfect backup C to spell Mozgov/TT/Love for 10 minutes a night. I’m done judging the personalities of these players whom I know nothing about, calling them “headcase” when I’ve spent all of 10 minutes ever reading about them through third party media sources. Look how wrong some of us were about JR Smith’s impact on the team. And just because someone… Read more »
Thanks for the pointer. That was excellent. Who knows what happened with LeBron. It did seem that after that season they were not friends. Personally, I always liked Delonte. BTW, recall the final playoff loss in game 6 to the Magic. With about 10 seconds to go, and the Cavs up by 1 and the Magic had the ball. The ball got knocked loose, and Delonte recovered it near the line. The ref said he or the ball touched the out of bounds line. The dozen or so replays were inconclusive, so who knows. But that call could easily have… Read more »
For whatever reason JR is behaving…maybe because all of the other Cavs have vanilla night lives. Having another notorious personality might upset the balance. Anyways I’m confident in Griff given this year’s track record. He seems to have a good read on the pulse of this club now.
I am sure that the cavs brass ( and LeBron’s input ) will do their homework and check out ” SANDERS ISSUES ” before taking a leap (if there is excessive baggage that comes with all that talent –then no pursue someone else )—I heard Denver is shopping FARIED —-any chance that is remotely doable for the cavs
Why Faried hasn’t helped Denver doesn’t make any sense. He was sensational in FIBA .
They need something. Not sure what it is. A new coach? Think when Nurkic gets rolling, he could be a nice 1-2. If you can add a stretch big to those two they could have a nice three big-man rotation.
Have to say that there is an enormous difference between a guy like Smith who has done some really dumb stuff including kill his best friend in a car accident, but is generally a guy who makes bad choices, but might be “growing up, ” and a guy with a verified substance abuse and mental health issues that are requiring absence from the team and serious treatment. Larry Sanders has Shawn Kemp/ Roy Tarpley level substance problems and a contract that is completely up in the air. It all depends on contract and if he is healthy in whether the… Read more »
JR has actually got a history of doing more distracting things on the court than Sanders. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe both of Sanders’ drug suspensions were for marijuana and not cocaine like both Kemp and Tarpley. I’m not saying marijuana is not an issue, but it doesn’t sound like that’s at the level of either of the two you mentioned. The mental issues, I don’t think any of us can speak to since nothing has been confirmed. I’m cautious as well, since the last thing you want to do is add the wrong guy to… Read more »
Eh. Everything I’ve heard makes me think at the very least he has serious alcohol issues.
Agreed. Sanders is toxic. Do not get. At least this year. I need to check out Plumlee, that sounds plausible.
So you’re saying Sanders! is going to sleep with LeBron’s mom too?
agree with evil ( as usual ) and so says—-sometimes you have to ” roll the dice ” and see what comes up—-they ” rolled ” when they picked up J.R. —-Sanders is worth the gamble / think he is surrounded by enough proven veterans to be able for him to ” toll the line ” and be a huge asset—– CMON GRIFF ( YOU WORK FOR A CASINO OWNER ) ” ROLL THE DICE ” GO GET SANDERS AND LET’S HOPE LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE—-
One thing we can be sure of: Griff won’t pull the trigger on Larry Sanders unless Lebron’s locker room signed of on it. So, if we go down that road, I think it’s an informed choice.
Agree with Nate: Robert Sacre and Ellington would be nice additions to our roster. I’d Love Mo Speights back (yeah, there’s a herculoids theme) but he’s such a good fit out here in Warrior-land, I can’t see him being moved.
Charles Barkley really, REALLY liked J.R.’s green coat in the fashion show… Like I think he might have bought it from him afterwards. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him wearing it on the next TNT broadcast… Speaking of J.R., before the trade, he was one of those knuckle-head cases that I thought could potentially endanger the Cavs chemistry both on and off the court. Since the trade, he’s done nothing but prove my concerns to be unfounded. Don’t know if it’s J.R. buying in, his temptation to be a knuckle-head being curbed due to his impression that there’s nothing to… Read more »
I don’t think we really need anyone at all. As long as the big three are healthy this team is great. When one is missing we struggle.
Another big for 5 minutes a game or Ray Allen would be fine. But right now they don’t need anything.
I’m kind of in between where you and EG are. On the one hand, I agree… the Cavs really don’t need anyone. There’s a solid rotation, and I think if Blatt would expand the bench just a tad over the rest of the season, the Cavs arrive healthy and ready for the playoffs. On the other hand, if they can get a big man enforcer for Haywood, who doesn’t appear to be useful, then I think it would be well worth to trade. I must admit, I am intrigued by Sanders, but I tend to agree with Nate and Cols… Read more »
The Chicago game convinced me we need another serviceable big. With Love out, we literally had to change our whole style of play, switching to a variety of small ball lineups on the fly. This can work against some teams, but not against Bulls.
I don’t think we need a great big, but we need someone who can step rebound and play D in a pinch.
Would take L. Sanders in a heartbeat — you’d have to think he’d be hype about just getting to run and dunk, block shots, and win all the time. plus, TT and Sanders and Moz running the floor diving with K. Love trailing after an outlet? all the transition points forever.
DO IT GRIFF
Headcase big guy? Do not want. Yuck.
That’s what I said about J.R. when the trade happened… and look how that worked out…
JR has proven himself on good teams with good coaches. Sanders…never been in that situation.
@SamAmicoFSO: Two Cavs items: 1. Told plenty of interest in Brendan Haywood’s contract; 2. Cavs keeping close eye on Larry Sanders/Bucks situation.