Links to the Present: Rockets/Mental Health Edition
2015-03-03Each week there is a ton of NBA media pertaining to the Cavs and the league in general that deserves recognition. A lot of it goes unread because there just isn’t enough time to keep up with it. Don’t worry. I’ve got you covered notable reads/videos from the past seven days to get you through the day feeling entertained, caught up, and much smarter. I’ll throw in Earl’s Pearl of the Week and some other features to add to the entertainment.
The MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference ended over the weekend, and Grantland writer/Harvard professor Kirk Goldsberry received first place honors for his paper. His analytics study redefined how NBA players can be evaluated on the defensive end of the floor. It shows how certain players’ defense affects other players’ shooting efficiency and habits (see chart below). A non-math-inclined person version of the paper can be found here. The academic one for people who really understand stats is here.
And, the Rockets beat the Cavs in overtime, 105-103. Houston’s general manager, Daryl Morey, is officially in a good mood. He attended the Sloan conference, which he co-founded, and watched his team take out another top tier organization.
I don’t mean to bring up a sore spot for Cavs fans though, so I’ll offer two facts to bring Morey back down to Medina, Ohio, his birthplace. LeBron James only missed his final two free throws on Sunday because he got kicked in the groin by James Harden and was experiencing delayed pain. The NBA has verified the crotch shot by suspending Harden for one game. Adding to Harden’s issues, Goldsberry’s paper says that Harden is a poor defender who people shoot well against.
Ian Jacoby at TheDreamShake.com countered in January that this year, Harden isn’t necessarily better, but he is defending differently. “To say The Beard has had some kind of defensive renaissance would be misleading. He’s very clearly making a concerted effort to defend better on the perimeter, though it would appear that on the low-block he’s become a significantly worse defender than he was last year.”
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Now, on to the conference this shot chart was meant for. FiveThirtyEight live blogged the Sloan gathering, and summarized the different sports panels. Here’s a highlight.
Anthony and Bryant, though, were depicted as the anti-Battiers, in a question by moderator [Jackie] MacMullan (who, like Battier, works for ESPN, which owns this website and sponsors Sloan). MacMullan noted their selfishness and focus on scoring over other ways of contributing to their teams. (To which my boss, Nate Silver, would respond that Anthony’s shooting makes his teammates better.) Battier made clear how much he relished having those two stars as foils, learning their tendencies so that he could neutralize their strengths when playing defense. MacMullan pointed out that Battier blocked more of their shots than any other player’s. Anthony also topped the Battier leaderboards for balls stolen and offensive fouls drawn.
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While the FiveThirtyEight coverage was straightforward, Matt Dollinger of Sports Illustrated did a piece with fifty anecdotes from the conference.
-Can the triangle offense work in the NBA? Kevin McHale once told Morey: “If you have the best players, you can run the square.”
-Someone asked D’Antoni if coaching Carmelo Anthony was his worst nightmare. The former Knicks coach, and big advocate of ball movement, quipped: “They are doing great things with therapy, I’m good.”
“I’m sorry Phil Jackson” is all I can come up with in response to those statements.
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Kevin Arnovitz did a fantastic piece about Larry Sanders a few days ago. It’s a profile about Sanders’ personal state of mind as much as it’s a profile about the idea of mental health in the NBA.
“I want to open that door for guys,” Sanders said. “It’s hard for people in my field to respect mental health. We say that the game is 90 percent mental, but yet mental health doesn’t get the respect of, like, an ACL. The game is 90 percent mental, but we’re going to ignore your mental health.”
This piece made me go back and reread Chuck Klosterman’s profile of Royce White. White is a former NBA player who suffers from extreme anxiety. This anxiety ultimately derailed his career before it really even started. He isn’t even on a D-league team or playing overseas now.
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William Bohl of Fear The Sword has the definitive Matthew Dellavedova breakdown. It’s fair. It brings up his poor shooting at the rim and every where on the floor outside of the right hand side of the three line. Matty doesn’t generate shots for other players either. Bohl also points out that Delly isn’t a great overall defender when looking at defensive RPM (he notes that he excels at pick and roll defense and closing out though). He actually ranks 409th out of 496 players. The only thing I find issue with is this:
The issue with Dellavedova has never been, and will never be, his hustle. It’s his other limitations. For example, when he stands in transition to foul a player streaking down the floor, it can be mistaken for a smart play. He isn’t fast and can’t jump, so sinking back and defending the paint by stopping the ball or contesting at the rim aren’t options for him.
Fouling a guy in transition is always a good idea. If your team isn’t in the bonus and the player doing it has fouls to use, why not do it? First off, how often does one man stop a ball handler in transition? Furthermore, if you stop a guy near mid-court instead of chasing him all the way down the floor, you are conserving your energy. There should be a stat for these types of fouls, because they do say something about a player. I need fellow Cavs:The Blog bloggers Nate and Tom to do good by Matty and write another, even more, definitive breakdown.
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If you like mediocre basketball, Chris Bernucca’s column for Sheridan Hoops broke down the race for the final playoff spots in the Eastern conference. It’s the battle of the 23-26 win teams.
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And, to end these links look at the shot Alexey Shved took this past week during a rare Knicks win.
Earl’s Pearl of the Week
Nick Young defended his girlfriend via social media yesterday. Young had to defend Iggy Azaleza after ESPN reporter Robert Flores took a shot at her on national television. He said she’s actively trying to harm the notion of hip-hop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJvnr8GizQ
The Tweets are now deleted, but thanks to Nate Scott at USA Today we have screenshots.
Nick Young should have responded with something along the lines of: “And, Robert Flores is trying to kill the idea of a late night TV monologue by doing it in the morning and on ESPN.”
Bottom Lines of the Week
-Ricky Rubio had a triple-double last night in a lose against the Clippers. He scored 18 points and had 11 assists and 12 rebounds. He’s Russell Westbrook light.
-If you listened to nationally syndicated sports radio yesterday morning, a lot of the broadcasters were talking about the Cavs-Rockets game on Sunday being the game of the year. I watched the game after it was over, and I saw a lot of isolation basketball between James Harden and LeBron James. I witnessed a lot of bricked threes, and I gagged from too much hero ball. I also saw one MVP candidate kick a former MVP in the groin. I didn’t see basketball that made me say, “Wow.” There was little ball movement, and the Cavs style of LeBronffense reminded me of five years ago. What am I missing? And, don’t say playoff intensity.
–Kyrie Irving will be active for the game against the Celtics tonight.
I thought the Arnovitz piece on Sanders was interesting, but I think there is a small flaw in its thesis which is “the NBA has a problem dealing with mental health issues”. Society has a problem dealing with mental health issues. In a country like Japan, they hardly even recognize mental health is a thing that exists independently of abstract concepts like “character” and “will”. It’s not that I am unsympathetic to NBA players, but to say the NBA should identify and fix a problem that other employers cannot seems a bit ambitious.
So what are the odds tonight Blatt has Cavs PR guys behind him with cattle prods to shock him in case anyone asks him about Bibi’s speech, today?
HAHAHAHAHA… Blatt’s too smart to fall in that trap, isn’t he????
http://www.businessinsider.com/communication-charts-around-the-world-2014-3
Obama and Netanyahu should both take a look at this. LeBron and Blatt too. It will give them a better understanding of the other’s negotiation styles.
I can see it now… “Breaking news… Kevin Love misses morning shootaround… Sources say this is first step in his plan to leave Cleveland!”
“Breaking news… Kevin Love is sick… Sources say he’s allergic to Le-ISO…”
“Breaking news… David Blatt brings chicken soup to Kevin Love’s house to help him feel better for the game… Sources say Blatt finds him in a Laker’s jersey while on-line looking to buy a house in Los Angeles…”
HAHAHA – definitely you’re best one of the three.
But then Blatt takes Kevin Love out to the local bowling alley. Afterwards, Love immediately signs a max extension to stay in Cleveland.
Haha. Funny. I love it.
Just my way of protesting rumor-mongering disguised as “responsible journalism.” Unless it comes out of a player’s mouth directly (and even then you can only believe it 50% of the time), it’s just wild prognostication. Maybe Curt Shilling can track down these “sources” and expose them like the cowardly Twitterers he did today…
I can’t imagine any reason for a guy who is clearly shy of the limelight and unable to carry a team on his own to a championship to leave money on the table, almost assuredly go someplace where he will win less, and walk away from a relatively consistent 17 pts/10 rebs line.
If he Love leaves, it won’t be because of financial or basketball reasons. It will be because he doesn’t like the guys he’s playing with.
Agree… If he leaves then that would make him not only a bad businessman, but more importantly a player who doesn’t really want to win titles… And if he’s actually that kind of player (I don’t think he is), then the Cavs are better off without him.
If he leaves because he doesn’t like the guys he’s playing with, that just seems like a mentally weak position to take…
Agree about them being better off without a temperamental malcontent with priority issues, but that woud make the Wiggins trade a complete disaster. I don’t think he is going to leave and I doubt he knows himself. I think it all depends on how the playoffs go. In Love’s defense I think the issue is not that he doesn’t care about winning, but his sensitivity about how much credit he deserves. I think he has a big enough ego where if he feels like the perception is that he is an important part of the team but not close to… Read more »
Tonight: Kyrie is a game-time decision and Love is “probable” (missed shoot around with an illness).
My guess is the big guns will most likely sit, since there’s a back-to-back against Toronto tomorrow night.
agree with both above comments—–how can a player occupy a roster spot if he is out for the season with an injury—this is a spot that we definetly could fill with a pt gd or chase after javale McGee
Long live, Robert Flores.
HAHAHAHA…. Nick Young is a bit of a clown!
“A bit?” He’s a complete clown. HE GAVE HIMSELF the ridiculous nickname Swaggy P. Haha, you’ve got to be kidding me. Loved what Jalen Rose said on NBA Countdown and the Grantland Basketball Hour – until you contribute in a meaningful way to any of your teams winning a playoff series, I refuse to acknowledge the ridiculous nickname you gave yourself and will only call you by your actual name. #KeepinIt100
HAHAHA…. I was practicing something that I believe is loosely called, “gentleman’s discretion.” I actually have Nick Young to thank because for the first time in my life, I agreed with Kobe Bryant and his reaction to Young’s celebration over the Celtics a week or two ago.
Trust me, I know what you’re saying… HAHAHAHA!!!
It’s annoying that Andy takes up a roster spot. If he didn’t, we’d be able to pickup a backup point guard and keep Delly, which I think is what most of us want. Why can’t the NBA allow an extra roster spot with the guarantee that the injured player doesn’t re-enter the season?
Yeah this bothers me. NBA and NFL have antiquated injury-roster designations.
Agree. I have wondered what is the reason for this. Both leagues hold fast to rules that most teams are pushing against. It doesn’t hold the total salary down much, because additional players signed would likely be making the minimum.
Yeah doesn’t make a lot of sense — especially in the NFL where they won’t let them expand rosters to account for all the injuries. This, from the league so invested in “player safety”.
LOLZ
Keeping Delly is not why we haven’t found a backup PG. The problem is that good backup PGs aren’t out there for the taking.
Nate Robinson, Will Bynum, Jordan Farmar…
Eph. Then Griffin screwed up.
Say it ain’t so, Cols… Griff walks on water doesn’t he? ;)
Ha. We can allow him this one mistake.
Got rid of:
Zeller, Waiters, Jack, Wiggins Bennett
Got
LBJ, Love, Shump, Smith, Mozgov, Marion, Miller, Jones, Perkins, and also got Irving extended
I’ll allow a small mistake after an offseason like that
Nets won on Jack’s last half second shot last night. Too bad the Cavs didn’t have him on Sunday.
Because while it makes sense in our case with Andy, how easily can this be abused? Think a Bill Belichick type in an NBA front office. Or keeping a Cavs theme, they could easily make up an injury for Brendan Haywood and shelf him and his contract for next year to pick up another player. Also, if things change to what you suggest, the injury exception is out. DIdn’t the Cavs use Andy’s exemption as part of their trading to help out the roster? NBA won’t allow double dipping in giving teams injury exemptions and then also giving extra roster… Read more »
Sam Hinkie would have like 30 roster spots then, which he can fill with his legions of second round draft picks on four-year nonguaranteed minimum contracts.
Thanks DW, I liked the Sheridan article in the bottom feeders of the east. Lots of possibilities but I personally do not want the pacers in the first round. There is enough to that team that will make it a hard out and exausting. Pistons are similar, all others are easy outs for us imho. Love has answered the question many times on whether he is leaving or not “I am a cavelier”. Also he said” I am having fun winning”. Not bold definitive statements but they are telling. Just get him the damn ball in the 4th. Go Cavs… Read more »
We will likely sweep the Pacer and the Pistons in the first round.
Wow! Cavs are so good they’re going to sweep two teams in the first round? Amazing…
Haha. Even if they combined those two teams we’d beat them easily in a series.
The Pacstons would be an easy sweep!
Lol I belive we will beat them but not that easy. Pacers when full are a formidable foe, I believe they have been pretty good over the years and have not been swept. Anyway……
Pacers can’t score enough to stay with a healthy Cavs big three. It wouldn’t be close.
If Paul George comes back in enough time to shake off the rust before the playoffs, then it would be closer than you think (shocker).
LBJ, Kyrie, Love say otherwise. All three of those guys would be the best player on the Pacers.
Pacers are an elite defensive team and battle tested from multiple trips to the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the East playoffs. An argument can absolutely be made that Paul George is on par with, if not better than, the talents of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love too.
Pacers are an elite defensive team that cannot keep up with the scoring from the Cavs big three.
I suspect that CLF will be very upset about the FTS article on Delly, and that Cols will be like “See, I told you so…” oh right… that was the first comment in… The Larry Sanders situation is one that should definitely start bringing more attention to mental disorders in the sport. As DW mentioned, Royce Young’s career got derailed before it started, and Delonte, while more high profile, was still known more for his humorous Delonte-isms. Sanders’ problems kicked in full force following a breakout season where he got rewarded with a big contract. Sad that it takes that… Read more »
I’ll be the first to admit, Delly is having a bad year. But that doesn’t mean he can’t improve and contribute. A lot of it is a confidence problem. If you don’t believe the shot’s going in, it’s not going to go in. And, to be frank, we’re stuck with him now, there’s not a lot of street free agents who are going to be better. Just have to hope Delly plays better. I believe in him.
I agree with that, and would add that most people forget that Delly missed some time earlier this season with the knee injury. I don’t think he’s had quite the same “quicks” since he got back from that, so maybe there are some lingering effects?
Agreed Nate and EG, I believe in Delly and my guess is his knee is a bit unstable, thus the lack of quickness/agility/change of direction. Plus, he’s young and should have improvement over the next 6 years to his peak. I read the aforementioned article, and again, it totally misses the point of why Delly belongs. Again, I go back to what Blatt said of him, he says he’s the “ultimate team-first” guy. That’s the reason he receives so many minutes, and that’s the only way he’s gonna stick in the NBA. The reason why Delly has a job is… Read more »
Preach!!! “culturally conditioned to believe that measurables are the only way to determine success” – it is easy to form an opinion based on stats, which are convenient, absolute, and more universally understood than much basketball lexicon. It takes much more effort and reflection to evaluate something based on what you see, and the intangible aspects are not easily reproduced in text form, where we intake most of our information. Andrew Sharp has a column up on Grantland today calling the 76ers Tankapalooza plan stupid. In it, he notes the biggest issue with analytics is that it “often values methodology… Read more »
Thanks, cwzagger… HAHA! Absolutely, my field of philosophy, it was realized back in the 19th century that the scientific method lacked the ability to quantify human experience. Thus, the existentialist movement was born, and it is still the most relevant philosophical school of thought today That Andrew Sharp piece was excellent… thanks for the recommendation. What’s really cool, is that the quote you point out,”when you etc….” has a fancy mathematical term that describes the phenomena, it’s called “Godel’s incompleteness theorem.” What Godel’s incompleteness theorem states is that, in the context of the Sharp quote, if the process is sound…… Read more »
CLF man I LOVE this post. I love the existentialist movement and the line of thinking that came from it — that the human experience cannot be accurately depicted, more or less, on paper. Your post is not too arcane, it is infinitely relevant. What follows is my brain spewing thoughts and observations that may or may not make sense, I just got on a roll and don’t mean to be preachy if that’s how it sounds: To tie it in with what I posted before, I think that today’s American culture is so inundated with an excess of information… Read more »
I <3 Cavs
I <3 philosophy
Dangerous combo^^
Amen, cwzagger, I do love the Cavs and philosophy and it is a dangerous combo hahaha! I appreciate your response and thank you for it because it provides for me a sense of validation for my work on my senior thesis at undergrad school. My senior thesis was a philosophical inquiry on the nature of technology. The question I answered was, “Is technology de-humanizing?” I used existentialist philosopher Martin Heidegger as the basis for my response to the inquiry. In it, I came to basically the same conclusion you have, and others have, especially with respect to the internet. Technology… Read more »
Richard Pryor once taught about “life in the beginning as it manifests itself though the eternal complexities of renunciation as opposed to the juxtaposition of the inferior mind.”
I’m not quite sure what that means, or if it has anything to do with basketball, but I do remember Richard Pryor once saying that . . . and thought I’d toss it out there.
HAHAHAHAHHAA…. Nice U-Dog!!! I loved Richard Pryor in David Lynch’s “Lost Highway”…. I know, I know, I should probably youtube Pryor’s standup from the 70s-80s.
Cool stuff CLF, I’m sure we share similar opinions on technology and its influence on people. It’s all soooo interesting to me, especially since I tend to try and make the effort to “read in between the lines” in life, and most especially in instances where an attempt is made to boil down something complex into simplified form. It’s pretty awesome how sports are a great microcosm of life and we can observe the parallels to our own lives. U-Dog, I think the quote basically means that Pryor embraced his own imperfections rather than compare himself favorably to something/one else… Read more »
So glad to have read that Larry Sanders article! Just reinforces that these are, in fact, human beings and not machines that we root for in the sport we love. We should remember stories like this when we go around calling players “headcase” and such. We don’t know them and have no business labeling them.
I know I’ve posted this before but since it’s on the subject I thought I’d share again this article about the perceptions of my fav athlete ever, Delonte West: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2014/06/delonte_west_he_was_branded_as_crazy_and_became_the_subject_of_a_vicious.html
Hey cwzagger, if you’re a Delonte fan you may have already seen this… but if not, check this out…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTpwYSyA0tk
Ah hadn’t seen that one but it’s real good! Very heartfelt. Delonte is a good guy, straight up. He loved playing for the Cavs SO MUCH!! Man, I miss that team. I wish he’d makes it back to the league–finish his last chapter–but it will probably never happen at this point…
He’s currently playing for the Guaros de Lara of the Venezuelan Liga Profesional de Baloncesto with his old teammate Jamario Moon… not sure how much playing time he’s getting lately, but I check the box score from time to time. Really thought he’d get another shot after the Shanghai Sharks last year…
Yeah between the good showing on the Sharks and all the positive press from the recent articles/videos denouncing the notion that he’s “crazy,” I assumed he’d get a shot as well. Just keep doin ya thang, Delonte.
This is the best Delonte West video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZukVN_djZds
“You better have my donuts!”
<3 it!
I don't feel like finding the link, but the Delonte sock quote is also one of his undercover best. Every word that comes out his mouth is so great.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this yet or not…. Well I know it’s been mentioned but this from a new source. I don’t have a link because it was on TV, but Jason Lloyd backed up Broussards story on the Les Levine show, by saying he spoke with folks he trusts around the league and they stated “We keep hearing Love is leaving Cleveland and won’t be there next year.” Hopefully this is all untrue spun propaganda from Pat Riley or something.
He’s not leaving. Cleveland can offer him
1. THE MOST MONEY
2. THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN
Also, they don’t make that trade if they thought there was any chance of Love leaving. He’s staying.
So why is this story being confirmed by other reporters? Just because you don’t want it to be true doesn’t mean it could be true.
I don’t trust those guys to have any inside information. They are just trying to sell clicks. No free agent leaves money on the table when it comes to being able to play for a great team as well.
Most money
Best chance to win.
Cleveland offers both.
So you don’t trust Jason Lloyd? I don’t think he’d risk journalistic integrity to sell clicks. BTW I’m not saying it’s true necessarily, but it’s a story that doesn’t seem to go away and that seems peculiar.
If the Love situation was a math equation this logic is flawless. But if Love isn’t happy playing for the Cavs, well…
Lebron left his team that was in the finals, have just won two, when it could have offered him more money. It possible, whether you want it to be or not.
Eh, if you believe The Essay, LBJ was always going to come back to Cleveland before his playing days were done… Also, he left a team that was already starting to decline age and injury-wise… Cavs are a much younger team on the rise with a bright future. Also KLove is not the game-changer that LBJ is… The other places that can offer him Max money are not nearly as close to a ring as the Cavs…
The problem is . . . if something doesn’t change in the way Love plays . . . the Cavs will NOT offer Love the most money.
True statement… it is very much a two-way street… although it would mean the Cavs essentially getting a one-year rental for Wiggins and a first rounder (can’t in good conscience include GumDropBear as a positive in that deal)…
The story that’s being confirmed is not that Love is leaving but that there’s buzz around the league that he is leaving. Big difference. The buzz may simply be speculation, because people like to talk (and there’s hours of TV and radio airtime to fill). Given how the first half of the season went, there were probably a lot of people around the league speculating that Love might leave.
THIS.
The “story” here is NOT Love saying he wants to leave. Its other people in the league THINKING Love will leave. This is not a “story.” This is guys in the league talking basketball and then reporters reporting what the guys in the league talk about.
This hot take is absurd. He absolutely can leave. That’s the thing about contracts and player options. Kevin Love is not required to pick-up his option and is free to sign with other teams. This doesn’t mean he will leave of course, but it doesn’t mean he will absolutely stay either.
And taking solace in the idea that the Cavs have some type of hush-hush arrangement with K. Love is ridiculous. This is the same franchise that had a similar “arrangement” with Carlos Boozer. That didn’t work out too well for the Cavs.
Some people are not overly consumed with THE MOST MONEY. Maybe for Love, the difference between $15 million a year and $17 million a year is negligible. For Carmelo Anthony, getting the last dollar was what he cared about. Not all players are the same. And many teams in the West also offer him the best chance to win. What if GS finds a way to sign him, or maybe SA even. Their stars keep taking less money to bring in talent – another example of athletes not looking for THE MOST MONEY. Memphis may even be able to bring… Read more »
You seem to have an awful lot of disdain for LBJ OSU… did you not like the jerseys he designed for the Bucks or something? Maybe there’s not a big difference between 15 and 17 million to you (maybe you’re independently wealthy), but judging by the rift that was caused between Love and the T-Wolves when they refused to give him a max deal the first time around… news flash… money is important to him… Most of the good teams in the WC will not be far enough under the cap to take on Love as a max player next… Read more »
What did I say about LBJ is not true and makes it look like I have disdain for him? You got me on the jersey thing. I had no idea players designed jerseys for other teams so if you show me an example of the one he designed, I can let you know if I like it or not. Pretty sure it won’t cause disdain though. However, its interesting to learn something new about how NBA jerseys are designed. I would gladly take $15 million over my current salary and hang out in an unhealthy, unhappy situation for a few… Read more »
I didn’t think he came at you that strongly at all, to be honest. I think he was trying to be funny with his first paragraph, not offend you. Anyway, you have posted a fair amount of LBJ critiques of late, but I don’t necessarily disagree with those opinions so keep ’em coming. ;)
I was mostly giving you a friendly jab OSU… not meant to offend you. You have been fairly critical of LBJ (both the person and the player) on today and yesterday’s threads though. But it wasn’t an attack on you, so if you took it that way, then maybe get a thicker skin… How is my analogy off the reservation? It is well documented that Love was pissed at the Wolves for not giving him a max contract the last time out. Sure, some players have taken less to be in a position they desired, but not since the last… Read more »
Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding then. I guess you don’t need twitter to have one of those. I’m just tired of people around me constantly saying Love is staying when there is no clear cut reasoning to it. Probably overreacted for that reason. I thought I provided a valid, well-reasoned justification to why he won’t stay w/o any bias or untruth to it and the first response I read after that was someone (you in this case) saying of course he is staying and trying to say I hated LBJ when that is nowhere near the truth and nowhere near… Read more »
No worries… I’m usually pretty sarcastic in my responses (sometimes overly so). I can understand your overreaction to people just blindly thinking that Love will stay because it helps them sleep at night. I’m not saying that he WILL stay necessarily… just that his best/smartest move is to stay and take the money because there is likely few (if any scenarios) out there where he plays for a contender like the Cavs for anything but a substantial reduction. I would be surprised if he bolted this summer because it wouldn’t be either the best economic decision he could make, nor… Read more »
Looking back on it, I guess it was more just the LBJ logo on the OSU men’s basketball uniforms, but I seem to remember him having a hand in the jersey design as well…
Here’s a link:
http://www.sportsangle.com/2011/07/holy-grail-lebron-branded-ohio-state-jersey-version-1-0/
Also, he’s been designing special versions of his Nike line of shoes for OSU basketball over the years:
http://nikelebron.net/tag/ohio_state/
Interesting tidbit about the apparel. I’m usually on top of what goes on with the Buckeyes and Cavs but this completely slipped by me.
Well, watch him play. I mean he’s relegated to being a spot shooter. I don’t know though. The back is hurting him a lot more than people are realizing. We saw it a little bit at the end of the Indiana game, again. But on the other hand, once you’ve played with guys like Ricky Rubio, dealing with LeBron’s constant BS has to be tiring. I don’t think we’ll really know anything till the end of the season, so it’s click bait for now. Kevin probably won’t decide till the end of the season.
Considering the items Cols listed, I find it very hard to believe that Love would bolt Cleveland after one year. On paper, there is almost no reason for him to do so. But what you say, Arch, sure worries me. We’ve seen with some of these rumors that where there’s smoke there’s fire. He has all the professional reasons in the world to stay here, but does anyone ask if he’s actually HAPPY? Love has stayed out of the media’s eye, but he hasn’t really said anything on record to back Cleveland without a doubt. Before we write of the… Read more »
Kevin hasn’t said anything on record to definitively back the Cleveland without a doubt? He’s done nothing but that this whole time. He’s said verbally and on record that he plans on being in CLE long term. I believe I even read a couple months back a quote from him saying he didn’t even plan on using his option. He’s consistently stated that nothing but Cleveland and the Cavs are on his mind. Granted, he could very well be telling the media one thing and feeling, privately, something totally different. However, he’s seemed very earnest and sincere anytime he discusses… Read more »
Found one of those sources: http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_cavaliers_forward_ke_1.htmlhttp://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_cavaliers_forward_ke_1.htmlhttp://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_cavaliers_forward_ke_1.html
Sorry, messed up that link.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_cavaliers_forward_ke_1.html
Thanks for posting. I remember reading that article too, and it makes me feel much better. My thought both times when reading it were this: If a guy wants to leave (or is even thinking about it), he just gives a politically correct answer when asked about his plans for free agency. Something like – “I’m not thinking about that right now; I’m focused on this season and trying to win a championship with my team.” When a guy specifically lays out his plan like Kevin Love did – “I’m not going to opt out this summer. I plan to… Read more »
All good points. He sounds convincing. I’m just not going to be convinced either way until something happens, not that I’ll let it keep me up at night. Heck, we all know LeBron COULD leave… I guess I really don’t trust anything an NBA player says to the media — it’s all so guarded and angled.
Okay, I’ll change my phrasing: Love hasn’t said anything on record to back Cleveland *that has convinced me*. I think that all just sounds like him saying what his agent tells him. Now, if that’s what Love actually believes, then bully. Truthfully, though, I doubt he’s made a decision either way yet.
There will be stories and rumors from “sauces” about KLove splitting town until he signs his next deal… Then, there will be stories and rumors from “sauces” that KLove is splitting town after that next deal is over… and so on… wash, rinse, repeat… the media spin cycle is never ending…
This is true but I don’t consider Jason Lloyd to be sauce and have a lot of faith in his reporting. He was awfully well informed about the LeBron homecoming when 90% of the nation though Ohio was out of its mind to believe LBJ would go back to the Cavs.
Much as I like Jason Lloyd, his information is second or third hand at best… He’s quoting league sources who have “heard something.” Until there’s something definitive from either a source who is willing to go on record or Kevin himself (or his agent), it’s all just wild speculation…
I think it could easily be true that “things have been said”… just like it was true earlier in the season when Lebron’s camp put out the word that he could always leave at the end of the season too… for the time being I’m assuming it’s just a leverage play, and I’ll keep waiting to see what K Love thinks of the playoffs. Basically everything about this season is unprecedented for him, so I have to assume there will be various events between now and summer that could change his mind one way or another.
So far griffin is a better gm than morey.
Probably time for Morey to kick Griff in the nads then…
PREACH! This is the perfect response.
That fear the sword delly article shows what we’ve seen all year. Delly is not good at basketball
Lot’s of co-linearity this year with crappy lineups. Lots of crutches in that FTS article.
Wait, Nate Smith, the king of +/- statistics, is now raising the fundamental problem of colinearity that haunts all such statistics!?!? Glad you are coming around.
I’ve never denied it. There’s lots of wonky stuff in RPM/APM. It gets filtered out as time goes on, but especially with a second year player, there’s going to be a lot of noise.
Cols, is Willam Bohl somehow related to you?
More importantly is he related to Manute Bol?
I miss Manute… He was awesome…
so do i. my favorite pic as a teen was the bullets team photo that had muggsy bogues with him.
I remember that pic! It was like that Guinness World Book of Records shot of the tallest man with the shortest wife…
#NBANostalgia