Recap: Hawks 106, Cavs 97 (or, Pick Your Poison… )
2015-03-07The Cavs ran into the NBA’s equivalent of a mythical nine-headed monster last night in Atlanta. Dangerous because of the ability to kill you in so many different ways, and from so many different places, this Hawks team (like the monstrous hydra) lived up to its lethal label.
The Cavs were determined early to cut off the head responsible for three point shooting, but where one head got severed, two more sprouted in its place… in this case to kill them with pick and roll and guard penetration. And just when they seemed to be getting somewhere, that first head reared up one last time to bite them. Add in a few self-inflicted wounds… and it was a pretty poisonous night all around for the Cavs.
First Quarter:
Things started out ominously with an LBJ ISO play where Bron’s late in the shot clock turnaround fade-away jumper was blocked by the long arm of Al Horford. The Hawks looked to double LBJ and Kyrie early and often in this game, determined to take away passing lanes for both. On the other end, Atlanta relied early on a diverse attack of interior passing for easy big man scoring, dribble penetration and early offense. The Cavs countered nicely at first with a couple of KLove three-point bombs and a sick crossover move for a dunk in transition from LeBron. This bucket would be the last one they would convert for the next four minutes.
The Hawks struck from seemingly every direction in seemingly every way possible as they went on a 15-1 run, and executed a clinic on how to play motion offense. There were layups by nearly every starter (often early in the shot clock), and then from the bench (which goes at least nine or 10 deep). In fact, the only starter who didn’t score was the one man the Cavs seemed geared up to stop… Kyle Korver (he only took one shot). It hardly mattered since the Hawks constantly moved the ball, especially on the high pick and roll (10 of the 17 Atlanta baskets were assisted). The Cavs defense couldn’t stop it, or much of anything else in the quarter. They were like a perpetual motion machine…
The Cavs were able to scratch out a few scores towards the end of the quarter on two LBJ assisted baskets from TT and Shump, plus a trip to the line for TT and Bron, but the ball-hawking Hawks pressured both LBJ (three) and Kyrie (two) into turnovers. The Cavs also decided to pick “die by the three” as their poison for this quarter as they went 0-6 following KLove’s two early treys. Cavs trailed at the end of one ugly quarter… 36-19.
Second Quarter:
This quarter started promisingly enough with a Cavs counter-attack that featured a Kyrie dribble-drive and then three trade-off triples from The Champ and Delly to close the gap back to 10 (the first JFJ three came on the heels of four passes all the way around the horn). Meanwhile, Mike Scott and Denis Schroder took turns showing off the many scoring heads of the ATL monster, and Al Horford was just monstrous getting by TT on a baseline jam.
Then things got a little chippy on a Demarre Carroll foul of LBJ (one could probably win a lot of money if one was to bet on LeBron missing a free throw following a hard foul these days). The next time down the floor, LBJ got called for an offensive foul (on an acting job by Carroll that’s sure to be nominated), and something happened that had not happened all season… David Blatt finally went NUTS! The polite Princeton prolocutor unleashed his inner tiger and popped his Technical cherry. In fact, he looked so incensed that he nearly went for the daily double. This would ironically give the Cavs a sustained shot in the arm for the next quarter and a half.
Korver hit his only point of the first half on the Tech FT, and the Cavs were able to hold the beast at bay for nearly four minutes as they ratcheted up their defensive intensity and energy. But they were unable to take much advantage, only outscoring the Hawks 6-1 during the stretch (with a KLove triple and another magical drive from Kyrie). The Cavs continued to poison themselves with turnovers, getting three more from LBJ (not including a 24 second violation) and another from Kyrie to bring them up to 11 total for the half. Kyrie was able to steal one back though which resulted in an LBJ drive and kick for a timely Shumpert three to close the scoring and get the Cavs back to a 10 point deficit at the half… 53-43.
Third Quarter:
The second half began with a parade to the line by both teams. The Cavs, seemingly still being fueled by Blatt’s earlier technical, increased their intensity on both ends of the floor. After some miscues by the Hawks (some forced and some not), JR Swish assisted on a dunk for LBJ, and then nailed a triple to cut the lead to four. The Hawks took a timeout to regroup, but not before Al Horford tried to channel his inner Motombo to give Moz a good finger wagging for knocking him down (usually this is reserved for when you do something good, Al).
Kyrie and Jeff Teague traded driving layups before LBJ swatted one away from Teague, and then Moz got fouled to go to the stripe. He sank them both to give the Cavs their first lead since the opening minute. The lead would be short-lived, however, as LBJ got his own tech foul for arguing what looked like another clean block (this time on Horford). The lead see-sawed until another threat emerged in Kent Bazemore who hit a wide open three. JR Swish tied it up again, and then the quarter turned into a free throw contest with both teams in the bonus.
Around this time, the Hawks dusted off yet another weapon by bringing Elton Brand off the bench. He combined with super-sub Schroder to score the last six points of the quarter for Atlanta. The Cavs attempted to answer with a barrage of missed threes (they went a poisonous 3-12 from distance in the quarter), but couldn’t convert. LBJ hit a tough 15-footer, but Schroder made a driving layup to finish off the scoring. The Cavs did make some headway with a 36 point quarter of their own… and outscored the Hawks by 13 following the Blatt technical. Cavs down just two 81-79.
Fourth Quarter:
When JR Smith blocked Kyle Korver to start the fourth, and then contested his bail-out three attempt, it seemed like a reminder that the Cavs had at least succeeded in cutting that particular head off this monster. But it was only a warning for what was about to be unleashed. After a turn-back-the-clock-block by Brand on Kyrie’s drive, Schroder finally found Korver on his patented curl route for a catch and shoot trey. The final head reared back and sank it’s teeth into the Cavs chances. Following a sick Kyrie drive, Korver missed his next one, but it resulted in a Mike Scott garbage bucket. Scott hit another in the post, just before the unofficial dagger three by Korver that pushed the lead back to 10.
With the Cavs now having to pay more attention to Korver, Schroder and Scott continued to wreak havoc, pushing the lead to 15 before a Shump three and LBJ drive and trip to the line stemmed the bleeding and cut it back to 10 with six minutes to go. LBJ and JR would make one more three apiece to offset a couple more Mike Scott buckets (he had his first double-digit game in weeks, scoring 14 points on nine shots), but the Cavs would get no closer than nine the rest of the way.
Despite having some opportunities to draw closer, the Cavs hurt themselves again with turnovers (five more this quarter) and missed threes (six more this quarter). But it was really Korver’s threes that seemed to break their spirit as they never really recovered. A dunk from Shump made the final tally a nine point loss (but it didn’t seem that close). Cavs lose 106-97.
The Evil:
The Cavs set out to try and take away the three point shot from the Hawks. In theory, this was a good plan, and it even bore out to a degree with Atlanta making just 6-21 for 29%. However, the Hawks fared just fine using their high pick and roll, guard penetration and interior passing to hammer the Cavs with 54 points in the paint.
The Cavs came out listless and flat-footed in the first quarter and put themselves in a deep hole, giving up 36 points before they tightened up the defense in the second and third quarters.
Moz and TT were generally ineffective at stopping the Hawks at the rim, and this was one of the few games where the Cavs got out-rebounded by a smaller team. Horford and Millsap are fairly quick for big men and got most of what they wanted inside.
Nobody really shot well (Kyrie was 7-11 inside the arc, but 0-5 from deep), as the Cavs shot only 42% as a team compared to giving up 51% to the Hawks.
The Cavs lived and (mostly) died by the three-ball. Aside from some KLove bombs early and some JR ones late, they went 13-38 as the Hawks packed the paint and trapped the ball-handlers, forcing the outside shots.
Turnovers killed the Cavs almost as much as the Hawks tough D did. They had 17 as a team, but LeBron (nine) and Kyrie (five) had the majority between them. They adjusted in the middle quarters, but didn’t take care of the ball in the first and fourth when the Hawks trapping D dominated, holding the Cavs to 19 and 18 points respectively.
The Cavs allowed six members of the Hawks nine-headed monster to reach double digits (including Schroder who was often even better than Teague, and Mike Scott who had been struggling). They shut down Korver for the most part, but allowed him to get loose for two dagger threes in the fourth.
The Genius:
The Cavs had a reversal of fortune that followed a similar pattern to their game against Toronto. This time though, they were the ones down by a ton to a team that was clicking… and they were the ones who had to fight and claw to get back into it. They did and even (as the Raps did to them) took a one point lead in the third. They gave themselves a chance going into the final period, but ran out of gas in the fourth.
Kyrie, although he wasn’t hitting from the outside, made several highlight reel drives and finishes at the rack. He was worth the price of admission.
JR consistently kept fighting all the way through the game. He played some great D on Korver (even blocking and contesting his first two attempts in the fourth), and hit some big shots.
LeBron had a tough game. He turned the ball over a lot, didn’t shoot particularly well, but still had eight assists. Plus, he made 7-8 from the line. When asked about his performance after the game, he replied with a frank… “I suck.” He didn’t make excuses after the game… as with the missed free throws in Houston, he owned his poor performance. Let’s hope he learned something from it about not only himself, but how to play the Hawks in the future.
While this was not one of David Blatt’s better games, hopefully, it was a learning experience for him as well. One thing he did accomplish though was his first technical foul as an NBA coach. And it seemed to work for him as the Cavs outscored the Hawks by 15 in the quarter and a half that followed it. It’s okay to get mad, Coach!
While there was no consolation in losing the season series to the Hawks, there was some consolation that the Cavs didn’t lose any ground in the EC race for a top three seed, as both the Bulls and Raps lost as well.
Final Thoughts:
Anyone who didn’t think the Hawks were legit before tonight, should re-examine their thinking. This team can hurt you in so many ways and go extremely deep in their rotation without much fall-off. They have no true stars, but they are a dangerous multi-headed monster of a team in the truest sense.
Another fairly brutal second night of a back-to-back awaits the Cavs back in Cleveland later today against the Suns. Here’s hoping they can dig deep for some payback on Phoenix, then rest up for their upcoming Texas two-step.
Another good recap, EG… and the Hydra!
So to beat Hydra, who is our Agent Coulson? :)
why does kevin love always shoot 3’s he is never playing inside anymore.
Cavs could have used Nate IMHO…
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/12439044/los-angeles-clippers-sign-nate-robinson-10-day-contract
I’m gonna say he sticks with the Clips, as Doc’s son is pretty awful at basketball…
Well, his dad is pretty awful at being a GM so I guess they have that in common. :P
I have thought for a while that the Hawks are absolutely legit, and this game didn’t prove or disprove anything in that regard to me. They are for real. So are the Cavs. But one team can absolutely beat the other in a seven game series. People want to create and believe narratives, it’s our nature to want to explain things in tidy ways that please us. “The Hawks can’t beat us because we have too much talent” is such a narrative. I don’t know who “we” and “us” are anyway (nobody on this board as far as I know… Read more »
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/07/kevin-love-i-know-im-not-a-stretch-four/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs I hate seeing articles like this where there is no ulterior motive like Windhorst or Broussard write about trying to cause controversy. This is a straight up article with quotes straight from the guy. I gotta hope Blatt/Griffin have spoken with Love and the overriding conversation has been to stick with it for now, come back on a 1 year deal, they will work more offense conducive to Love’s playstyle in next year and if he likes it, sign a longterm max deal or else walk away in 2016 when the cap explodes. There is no reason why any… Read more »
Kyrie played a pretty bad game, especially defensively. Honestly, this was a much needed loss. The Cavs needed to realize that even at full strength they can’t play stupidly, and Blatt needs to realize he can’t get cute with the lineups against good teams. James Jones shouldn’t be playing fourth quarter minutes. The rebounding was a giant problem with him in. Also they need to have sets against defenses for late in the game when they need baskets. Everyone wants to blame Delly. Delly wasn’t the one giving up offensive rebounds against the worst rebounding team in the league. This… Read more »
I’m kind of sick of everyone on the Cavs being a perimeter player.
Neither LeBron nor Kevin Love seem much interested in playing back to the basket.
Maybe they are just shying away from contact… it’s a lot easier to hang out on the perimeter and jack up threes than get in the post and bang. One of KLove’s best possessions last night was towards the end of the third when he drove baseline and kissed it off the glass over Brand. Love got called for the charge, and while it seemed like a call that could go either way, it was good to see him take it inside. Moz can be a good back to the basket player… but his hands have been betraying him lately.… Read more »
I agree Tom re: lack of post play from K Love and LBJ. I actually think that K Love’s willing to, but apparently no one on the Cavs can get the ball into the post with any consistency/accuracy. It’s as if they’ve never used a ball fake before a post pass in their entire lives. I remember one instance Shumpert tried to get the ball inside, and threw the ball so far away from Love it completely removed him from the post. I agree with EG in terms of shying away from contact, I would argue I see it more… Read more »
Kevin is not going into the post, so there’s no way anyone can pass him the ball down low, cuz he ain’t there. It’s not like he goes in there is ignored, he just fakes in and pops out at the earliest opportunity most of the time. I went through a bunch of the player-tracking movements just watching what Kevin does off the ball, and it just seems like getting him to a post up position just isn’t part of the offense. There is no one screening for him to get into a good post position, for example. In other… Read more »
I was screaming at Kevin to take those shots. He didn’t hear me I don’t think. But he is a better option than having to swing the ball to Delly.
Delly, by the way, played very effective defense against Schroeder for about 6 of his 7 drives…Schroeder made some incredible floaters and teardrops. In fact their whole team shot very well on contested twos and shots at the basket. We played very poorly and still nearly won. A few extra threes from Kevin love in the fourth changes everything about the way the last 6 minutes play out.
I agree with you Scotch that they were shooting the lights out yesterday. I think that they got going in the first quarter, and really that gave them all the confidence to knock down some tough jumpers. I agree with you in part that the Cavs were in this game…. it was their defense that really let them down. Scoring 97 points isn’t too bad, but giving more than 100 was an indication their defense wasn’t its usual (usual for the last 2 months that is) suffocating self. I kinda thought the opposite of you hahaha.. re: Delly. I thought… Read more »
I enjoyed the recap, EG…. thought it was well done and pretty fair. I’m glad you gave JR props last night, he was a bright spot. I think Love was too, perhaps to a lesser extent, I thought the Cavs could’ve done more to feed him the ball after they saw his shot was on last night. If the Cavs beat this team in the playoffs, we’ll know they’re championship ready. The only way to beat ATL is with team basketball on offense, and being tough and physical defense. I thought LBJ had a great post-game presser. He acknowledged how… Read more »
Thanks CLF… good point about the poor defensive effort from Kyrie and Delly on the Atlanta guards. Can’t put it all on Moz and TT when the guards allow their counterparts to blow by them at will…
Absolutely… and I think that Kyrie and Delly play super aggressive because they know TT/Moz will bail them out on the back end… but last night Kyrie and Delly should’ve backed off and played the drive, and force them to shoot over them. Especially Delly, because he has size and lacks the quickness.
I’d much rather have Teague and Schroder shooting jumpers instead of dishing and finishing in the paint.
I went back and looked at some of those plays it the 4th with Schroder — the last two possessions Delly does sag off him pretty far, and he immediately sends to Korver for the 3 ball both times. Schroder is just playing well.
Since mid-February LeBron has had two games with nine turnovers and one game with eight. Cavs should rest him tonight. No more back-to-backs for his old bones, plus he’s looking like he could use a mental break as well. Let him come back refreshed for the Dallas/San Antonio trip.
why did we get PERKINS —-just so other teams couldn’t have him ?—-need to see more minutes from him or otherwise it is another wasted roster spot that could be utilized ( JAVALE MCGEE / OTHER PT GD )—-I hate to admit this but as true basketball purest—the hawks are a fun team to watch—-could you imagine a HAWKS / SPURS FINALS —IT WOULD BE LIKE LOOKING IN THE MIRROR —-hopefully that doesn’t happen
what does Pop see when he looks at the Man in the Mirror
Cavs got blitzed by a defense they weren’t ready for. Kudos to ATL for coming up with a pack-the-paint D and executing it against Lebron and Kyrie.
Leaving LeBron in for the entire 3rd quarter got them back in the game but disrupted the 4th Q rotation.
The 4th quarter shot chart says it all — no layups from Kyrie’s at the beginning of the quarter until the meaningless dunk at the end of the game. All 3s. Kyrie was 0-5 from deep.
I agree Charlie E about Atl’s defense. I felt the Cavs got blitzed by it as well. The efficiency of the offense was equally impressive. This team is going to be a tough out.
Good recap, EG. I thought we got a really strong lesson on the importance of ball movement. First lesson goes to Lebron: how about adopting more of Blatt’s motion offense? The inside/outside game is not bad, but seemed pretty predictable. Our missed threes were generally well contested. The second lesson goes to all the players: did you notice what happened when we started to play Atlanta more physical? Yep. They didn’t like it and we gained ground. More of that please. The last lesson goes to the coaches: it looked like Hawks did their homework thoroughly while we only did… Read more »
Thanks hpbd… with regard to the Cavs’ gameplan… the lone victory they had over the Hawks this year also included a similar “deny the three and cover Korver like a second shirt” strategy. However, in that game, the Cavs shot the lights out from three and blew the Hawks out. If they’d hit even half of the threes they took in the third (they were only 3-12) they would have had a decent sized lead going into the fourth and could have rested LBJ earlier. The poor energy and effort in the first and the turnovers cost them the most,… Read more »
agree with “d ” ( I mentioned in a recent blog ) how not having the matrix is huge as far as rotation goes ( hoping he can return healthy soon ) when he does return —yes delly’s minutes are reduced —I love his hustle and he can be bothersome for a short period of time but used too much and other teams/ players figure him out and exploit his weakness—-hoping the cavs can get reenergized tonight against phoenix
Like Lloyd’s article too. And I did appreciate Sam Amico’s as well http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-cavs-atlanta-hawks-030615 regarding using centers in the playoffs. BUT CTB Evil Genius the best! Loved that pic of 9 headed monster! Accurate depiction of the game!
Thanks TV63! Originally I had a pic of a buzzsaw, but that seemed like a lazy comparison on reflection… I’ve always been a big fan of Greek mythology, and this seemed like a better analogy… Let’s hope LBJ can go all Hercules on them in the playoffs and use arrows dipped in their poison blood to slay the Warriors (okay… took the analogy too far…)
Ha Ha I kept trying to picture who Hercules would be slaying the many headed dragons and yes It’s Lebron!. Gotta go after Horford with a vengeance. This team last year had showed signs of something special until he got hurt thanks to Andy They were not the same team w/o him. He has got to be the head of the snake If the Cavs can disrupt at least 2 very good players… then a different outcome.
http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/hawks-106-cavs-97-jason-lloyd-s-33-final-thoughts-on-lebron-s-turnovers-socks-and-playoff-preview-1.572678
Count me in the nonplussed group. Cavs played as bad as they can play, were on the 4th game in 6 nights (while Hawks were on the 2nd in 6 nights), were on the road, fell behind by 17 early, and they still were in the game in the 4th.
Hawks are very good. But this game was more proof that Cavs are in great shape in East.
Jason Lloyd sounds like me. I like it and agree that the Hawks won’t be LeBron 4 times in the playoffs
He does sound like you… someone should bring that to his attention… ;)
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Yeah I loved it at first, the characters were interesting and the dramatization of such a tense time in history was fascinating, even more so considering its somewhat based on real occurrences (check out the Illegals Program, shocking). But 2/3 into the 1st season and the characters are plateauing in their development and its become increasingly more plot driven. There is at least one but often times 2 or 3 sex scenes every episode…I get it, sex sells, but its cheap and cloy when its overdone. Breaking Bad had maybe 1 or 2 sex scenes throughout the entire series. All… Read more »
Also Keri Russell’s character is becoming more and more stilted and one-dimensional. She’s so obviously an American archetype, all brash aggression and energy and no subtlety, that it detracts from her ostensible role as the partner that still doesn’t quite get what it is to fit in with the Americans (as opposed to her husband who increasingly sympathizes with them) nor understand their way of life
Haven’t seen, was wondering about it…. However, I saw the premiere of “Dig” last night… pretty intriguing.
Check out Lloyd’s final thoughts for an interesting perspective. I tend to agree more with him than EG, but appreciate the game you bring to these recaps. Hopefully you get to cover a winner soon.
Thanks Kevin. As someone said in the thread (Joey B I think), C:tB should probably keep me away from playoff games… ;) I like Lloyd too, and think he’s one of the better guys covering the Cavs. Although, I thought he was a bit too myopic about last night’s loss. The Hawks are for real and are going to be tougher to beat than I thought…
Looks like LeBron is going to be upping his dose of HGH
That lineup to start the 4th was a mystery to me. Blatt hurt us there I thought.
I don’t underatand Blatts tendency to keep Mozgov on the bench in the 4th. The Cavs are clearly a much better team when he’s on the floor. Does anyone have any insight on this?
I don’t understand why Mozgov and Shumpert don’t play more period.
When was the last time Lebron played the 4 with Moz at the 5 and Kyrie, JR, Shump rounding it out? I don’t think I’ve seen a lineup with LeBron at the 4 this year.
I’ve seen LBJ play at the 4… but you’re right, it’s been a most rare occasion. I’m almost convinced that he’s refusing to do it, or they’re keeping it secret until the playoffs so that teams can’t get any tape of it.
LBJ seems to like to dominate the ball. When he dominates the ball, there is little movement. When there is little movement LBJ often puts himself in a position for extremely hard shots – which he incredibly sometimes makes. Still makes me cringe though.
Seems like he trusts TT’s ability to get tough rebounds and guard smaller, quicker guards and big men over Moz’s length. Moz does seem to have a tougher time guarding quicker big men. Moz was also not much of a deterrent to Teague or Schroder last night… but then again, nobody was…
I agree, EG re: TT and Mozerati. Last night was the first(?) time I’ve seen Mozerati unable to protect the rim, but that was because of ATL’s ball and man movement to get him out of position.
You’re right Take a look at these stats http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mozgoti01/lineups/2015/ Tristan doesn’t have near these numbers all the way down to the 2 man line-ups. Not only is Mosgov effective with the starters, he is with the bench players as well which shouldn’t surprise of course.
I cannot believe we list to that collection of stiffs. Instill don’t believe they cdn beat us in a series.
Just to be clear, you’re referring to the collection of stiffs with four all-stars, right?
This isn’t baseball. Team play beats individual play, every time. This isn’t NBA jam.
That said- it was good to see the Cavs come back & make a game of it. These are the top two teams in the East for sure. And with the Dubs, probably the top three in the league.
The hawks are so reminiscent of Denver their magical year a few years ago. Right system, right starters, super effective bench guys… Every single lineup seems better than the last. Nuggets lost gallinari and were never the same, especially in a playoff series where you could really attack the hole guys were expecting gallo to fill.
Hawks have hit exactly zero road bumps since November. I think they could still pull something like the Pacers last year and all of a sudden just lose their edge. Once you lose your groove, you can look like a completely different team.
While I agree with you that iso-ball is an unsustainable and largely ineffective offensive strategy, I disagree that team play beats individual play every time. The team with the best player in the series usually wins in the NBA.
Well executed team basketball will beat teams reliant on ISO ball over time. The cavs have a stagnant offense and I don’t think it is originating from Blatt. Too much 1 and 4 spread/drive and kick stand around. It seems like they do that or a high pick and roll and that is about it. Pretty easy to plan for and defend against the Cavs.
Cavs were exposed on their weakness in the 4th by the Hawks. They could not wait for Blatt’s predictable line-up of no Mosgov and pounced their offense in the paint. It wasn’t a coincidence. Delly played 15 mins and he is no matchup for their BIGS. Horford is 6″10 , 250 pounds. Milsap & Carrol are both 6’8 and about 240 pouinds. Lebron’s 9 turnovers and Kyries 5 turnovers were the bulk of the team’s turnovers. Lebron is particular has to be committed more to remedy this and quick. If the Raptors can beat this team 3 times, the Cavs… Read more »
And change their style of play against them to pass he ball more quickly Lebron’s over dribbling on a winding down shot clock is killing this team. He can get away with it against most teams and be effective but not against the Atlanta Hawks.
The real mistake that Blatt made was sticking with LBJ for the entire third quarter which threw off his rotations for the fourth. He did get outcoached by Budenholzer last night, but that’s going to happen from time to time. Budenholzer has outcoached a lot of opposing coaches this year. Blatt’s had more good coaching games than not lately. A lot of us are fixated on the lack of playing time for Moz and Blatt’s penchant for using Delly… me included. Delly was bad last night and probably shouldn’t have even played the 15 minutes he got, but Moz wasn’t… Read more »
I like to see the stats on how many paint points were allowed with him in vs him out in the 4th. A lot of the reports coming in that saying it was a significant difference. That’s why Pick your poison is so accurate here. Maybe his rebounds are down against this team but if he can stop the paint points by 1/3 or more then why sit him? The premise from some he hurts the team more so he should sit and yet we loose doesn’t make sense . Blatt’s cookie cutter 4th quarter line-up one of size fits… Read more »
Haven’t looked at the first quarter yet, but in the fourth, Atlanta had 8 points in the paint… 6 alone from Mike Scott. Two of the buckets (one from Scott and one from Millsap) were put-backs off of long rebounds from missed three pointers. One was a transition dunk from Scott after Millsap stole the ball from LBJ. Not exactly a lot of successful drives to the hole…
In the first quarter, the Hawks scored 20 of their 36 points in the paint… 14 of those while Moz was patrolling it.
WOW!!! Thanks for the info. The 1st quarter really did kill us. That should have never happened. I think Mosgov came out in he middle of third quarter. I know Cavs did better in third but how much was credit to him… idk. I’m going to really pay attention more on paint points because I am curious. I remember seeing Schroeder get an easy layup I thought was in the 4th and was P.O’d about it. Going to game tonight. Hopefully they have enough energy for a win!
Bring the #C:tBKarma TV63!
few thoughts on this game 1. coming out with little energy and focus was rather bizarre considering the game….cavs came out with more energy and focus against the celtics when they didn’t need to but this game they seemed to be lost flat footed and disinterested until they were getting their azz kicked and then decided to show up 2. the turnovers and free throws are starting to become a disturbing trend that could come back to haunt this team down the road and into the playoffs….there doesn’t seem to be any stretch where there are few turnovers and team… Read more »
It’s weird but they miss Marion. When he’s back they can have him at the 2 or 3 and give Shump the minutes that are going to Delly.
I know getting on Delly is a cliché at this point but he was getting abused by Schroeder out there. He’s just not athletic enough to check anyone dangerous and he isn’t a good enough 3pt shooter to justify the time. Yeah he full court presses and looks like he’s trying hard but come on.
Meh. Delly got burned a couple time by Schroder, but also had some nice stops. Schoder was so focused on going after him that he took the hawks out of their offense.