Live Thread: Cavs @ Hawks, ECF Game 1
2015-05-20It’s been a long week. If you’re like me, you didn’t know what to do with yourself while the Cavs weren’t playing. Fortunately, we hoops junkies get our fix tonight, as the Cavs take on the Hawks. Some great storylines heading into this one: Kyrie seems to be at the healthiest he’s been in a few weeks, according to Chris Fedor of the Northeast Ohio Media Group.
I feel good,” Kyrie Irving said. “This is a lot of days resting and getting treatment but also finally feeling good and actually being out there with my teammates preparing again. It’s a totally different mindset than being in the training room or being on the court watching film. Now it’s time to get started, roll the basketball out and go play.”
That’s good to hear, and it’s a key factor for this playoff series. When taking a look at the matchups, peak Kyrie is superior to Jeff Teague, but the Kyrie we saw for most of the Bulls series comes out on the negative side. I believe the week off is going to do wonders for Kyrie (He’s only 23. He still heals like a young guy.)
Speaking of matchups, lets throw all analytics out the window and look at these guys from the gut.
PG, Irving vs. Teague: At a 15.3 ppg average, 7.4 assists, and 3 turnovers, Teague stirs the drink for the Hawks, but his shooting has been spotty. In the playoffs, he’s at 40%/35%/80% for his shooting splits, and he’ll definitely put up a stinker every now and again. A gimpy Kyrie still shoots better than a healthy Teague. Irving’s 43%/46%/86% splits to go with his 19.8 points per game in the playoffs and his 3.3 assists and 1.6 turnovers definitely help stretch the field for the Cavs. Given Irving’s recovering status, and Teague’s very play in the playoffs this matchup is probably a wash.
SG, Kyle Korver vs. Iman Shumpert: Korver’s shooting numbers have bottomed out: 39%/35%/77% far below his regular season percentages of 49%/49%/90%, leading some to wonder if Korver is nursing a secret injury or if his Mike Miller-esque 34 years have finally caught up with him. Shump’s numbers have ticked up slightly in the playoffs as he’s at 10 points per game, and he’s gone from 67% at the line to 90% at the line. But his defense has been other-worldly. It remains to be seen if he sticks on Korver. I imagine Blatt will switch around the matchups to confuse the Hawks. I’m giving the nod to Shump, because he can switch onto anyone and guard everyone on the Hawks except Horford Sorry, Kyle. Age is undefeated.
SF, LeBron James vs. DeMarre Carroll: Yeah, no need to go too deep into this one. The question is, can Carroll’s smoking hot three point shooting (52%/44%/81%) in the payoffs continue and keep the Cavs’ defense honest. Carroll’s making teams pay for sagging off him, and stopping DeMarre is going to be a big task for the King. Cutting into Carroll’s 17 ppg and 6.8 rpg per game average is going to be key to stopping the Hawks. James is the greatest basketball player in the world, so he has the advantage, but it’s not as great as you might think.
PF, Paul Millsap vs. Tristan Thompson: Millsap scores well, but the Wizards figured out how to guard him, holding him to 40%/21%/76% and 15.7 ppg. His task will be keeping Tristan off the boards. Tristan’s need to chase Millsap out to the three point line may help him with that on defense, but Thompson’s athleticism may prove too much for Millsap on the offensive boards. In 37 minutes per game, Thompson averaged 8.3 and a whopping 11.2 rebounds to go with a 54%/0%/83% free throw shooting splits (you read that last number correctly). I’ll give the slight edge to Millsap because of his ability to pass, shoot, rebound and score, but TT’s energy makes it almost even.
C, Al Horford vs. Timofey Mozgov: This is the matchup that most favors Atlanta. Horford is one of the best 20-foot jump shooters in the league, and that was what killed the Cavs in the Bulls series. Mozgov has to chase Horford out to the perimeter. Horford averages 15.6 points, 9.9 rebounds, 4.1 assists, and 1.8 blocks in the playoffs, and it dwarfs Mozgov’s 8.5 points and 7.4 boards. Timo’s 2.2 blocks will fall, and his .435% playoff field goal percentage has to improve. Hopefully Timo’s offense returns, and the Cavs force the Hawks to match up with him, instead of the othre way around, because right now, this looks like it’s a big plus for Horford.
Bench, Cavs vs. Hawks. in the regular season, you’d give this to the Hawks, but with Delly and Smith, the Cavs have a slight edge. Yes, Schröder is a waterbug, but the Hawks are a net negative with him on the floor in the playoffs. In addition, the Hawks have been playing three bench player lineups that have been killing them, according to Hawks/Hoop’s Jeff Siegel.
Budenholzer has regularly rolled out lineups with three of the Dennis Schröder, Kent Bazemore, Mike Muscala, and Pero Antic bench brigade in these playoffs, and they have regularly gotten killed while out there. The three-man combination of Schröder, Bazemore, and Antic has played 75 minutes in the postseason, posting a ghastly -10.2 net rating, per nbawowy.com, and lineups featuring Schröder, Bazemore, and Muscala have fared even worse with a -11.1 net rating in 25 minutes. It’s understandable that Budenholzer wants to spell his starters, but he needs to avoid these lineups that takes too many of them off the court at a time.
The Cavs rarely make that mistake, with Delly and JR rotating in with the starters (and JR being a starter for much of the season), and the third rotation guy being being James Jones. Count me among those that think Jones won’t be the liability most think he will. Jones defends on the perimeter, and has been a solid, if not spectacular team defender. If the Hawks choose to post him up or put him in islolations, it takes them out of their offense. Edge: Cavs.
Coaching Blatt vs. Budenholzer. On paper, you’d pick Bud, but with the way LeBron has controlled the last two games, you have to think his cloor coaching could make up the difference.
Have to love the fact that the Cavs won the game despite Irving being no where near his normal self.
Have to hate the fact that the Cavs let the Hawks get the game back to within four points after leading by as much as 18 in the fourth quarter.
Sad to see Carroll be injured on a freak play. Sadly, the Cavs will be hearing that this is a lucky series from the media if Carroll misses extended time….
Thought Bron was super classy the way he handled the Carroll injury…
Classy move indeed. Sad to see injuries. I believe Bazemore would replace Carroll? Maybe more Millsap guarding LeBron?
CAVS need to sit Kyrie at least one game if not until the finals (if we make it?).
Hilarious post conference.
Media: LeBron (para phrase) what were your thoughts on JR when he came to Cleveland? We’re you concerned?
LeBron: Get him here and I’ll take care of him
**JR and LeBron giggle**
I was listening to this game on the radio, and at one point one announcer said that J.R. took a heat check (it was a contested 26 footer that he made). The other announcer said, “He knows he’s hot, he doesn’t need to check.”
I can’t believe that I questioned that Waiters trade. I had some serious homer glasses on. I think I just wanted him to be great. But whatever. We stole J.R., Shump, and Moz for waiters and a pick. Those trades don’t happen, and we’re probably sitting at home for a while now. Griff for the win.
Skip Bayless: Sometimes J.R. stands for Just Ridiculous. NOBODY can get hotter from 3 than J.R. Smith. Shot Atlanta’s lights out tonight
Lebron and JR on the podium right now on NBA TV
Kyrie talking on FoxSports. Says he should play Game 2. But, you can tell it is eating at him so much not being healthy, and not being able to contribute as much as he wants to. I really feel for him. Hope he can somehow get healthier going forward in the next few days/weeks.
Taking the verrrrrry long view – what he and kevin are experiencing, assuming Love returns, will change the way they approach the game. You hear it with guys who have injuries that keep them out of important moments like this – they gain a greater appreciation for the time they have on the Court. It focuses them, makes them seize the moment, gives them a little bit of humility that is so hard to gain when you are young and don’t know any better. In a way, its like a near death experience. You survive and realize you gotta stop… Read more »
They should start Delly and bring Kyrie off the bench with JR
Great win! Spectacular game by JR — so happy for him. Being tied at the half I thought we were in good shape, Cavs D just keeps coming and coming and eventually takes you out of your game. One thing about LeISO down the stretch is that the other guys are resting on offense and go all out at the defensive end. Good enough to win tonight, but pretty nerve racking. Carroll’s injury looks like a hyper-extended knee. I suspect he’ll be back before the end of the series, though maybe not for game 2. On our end, Kyrie still… Read more »
Gonna have to drink more
Next game. Too sober had me getting a bit worked up while they replayed that goal tend for 20 minutes.
iTools like the plan was to let Teague or Schroeder shoot but not let any open threes. Great perimeter defense.
I wish I could go out and party with Smith tonight. That would be fun.
I hope Carroll isn’t hurt too bad. Landing awkwardly like that, but without hyperextending his knee, I don’t know what it would be other than popping some kind of connective tissue. I hope it’s not something career altering, but if he’s out for the series it changes this from a seven game grind to a four or five game breeze.
The prevent offense works? It works at turning 18-20 point leads into 1 and 2 possession games. That’s playing with fire.
True. But he was going to the hoop almost every time. That normally turns out well.
When he burns so much clock that by the time he drives, there isn’t time for a kickout and the entire defense can collapse on him, it doesn’t normally turn out well.
I’m sick of these 19- and 20-second isos that result in a back leg turnaround fadeaway brick. If they want to chew up the shot clock they should move the ball around the perimeter and then drive it. Lebron, Irving, and JR are good off the dribble and Delly is serviceable.
That said, the game never should have gotten down to 2 possessions. If anyone hit that ball on the goaltend it was Bazemore.
Agree. Sounds like LBJ does, too. With so many shooters on floor, we need to move ball more. Le-Iso for final 2 minutes is OK but not last 7 minutes.
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO 22m22 minutes ago
Cavs’ LeBron James tells @FOXSportsOH he didn’t like how he closed out Game 1 win over Hawks: “I allowed them back in it with my nonsense.”
In a way Atlanta baited LeBron into going solo. He just didn’t believe Millsap could take him out on the perimeter and so kept going after it.
Be interesting in future games if Atlanta goes back to that or if its a one-game gimmick. Look for more surprising looks on defense by the Hawks.
Timothy had a quiet but effective game, 5-9FG and 11 rebounds (4 Offensive) in only 24 minutes. I’m glad we won the game but so mad at how we finished it off
Eh… they won by 8 on the Hawks home floor… just enjoy the win…
Agreed. It was a nice win. Wasn’t ever all that close at the end. The prevent offense works. All we needed was e bucket and we got it eventually.
It works for spurts or for rest or for the final couple minutes. Not for whole quarters
True. But he was taking to the hoop. Just not getting any calls or making the shot. Eventually he will shoot better and then it’s lights out.
Agreed I wasn’t too mad about it since he was going to the hole. And all we needed was one or two buckets to drive the final nail in.
It worked for 8+ minutes tonight. It wasn’t pretty, and I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it, but it got the desired result…
Lol, that’s true, now I wanna be greedy and get both games at Atlanta.
For what it’s worth, he’s aware of it: James tells @FOXSportsOH he didn’t like how he closed out Game 1 win over Hawks: “I allowed them back in it with my nonsense.”
Great Game 1 win. Kyrie was a non-factor, and that’s concerning considering he’s coming off of 5 days of rest.
We take this series in 5 games. But do we stand a chance against a full strength Warriors team when we’ll be without Love and with a 30% Kyrie? That’s concerning.
Concerning?? Let’s be pumped we are even in the playoffs and still watching basketball in Cleveland after April. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Dude still had 10 points and 6 assists in 27 mins on two bad wheels. Wouldn’t exactly call that a non-factor…
Kyrie outscored every Hawk except for Teague, Horford and Millsap…
I know it is time to truly appreciate what he has been doing. We have gotten way too used to 30 plus from him.
Yes!!!!LeBron and Smith took it to them. Fantastic defense by the Cavs. You know JR is going to hit up
Some strip clubs tonight.
I don’t think the chip the Cavs had put in his head will allow that…
What Blatt is saying. Last game was a Delly anomaly. Tonight was a JR anomaly. Next game may be a Shump anomaly.
They have enough weapons, even with Love out and Kyrie hurt, that they can usually count on someone to help LeBron carry the scoring load.
Yep. And all he needs is one guy to step
Up each game.
Wow, Atlanta fans all over the Internet saying they got jobbed by the refs. Because of moving screen violations. Unreal. Not sure what makes the NBA the worst: the officiating or the fans’ interpretation of it.
They were often makeup type calls from poor officiating on their defensive end. But all except one were blatant
For Marv and the guys, the big takeaway from tonight’s game would be the Hawks’ heroic attempt to overcome the absence of Sefolosha.
And the underrating of Jeff Teague as a basketball player, a man and a human being…
Coach Blatt is on now on NBA TV
Didn’t realize that Millsap fouled out…
Did the all star Al Horford play tonight? If so, who guarded him?
He actually shot pretty well… 8-12, but just 7 boards…
Atlanta just couldn’t win this first game at home. They just couldn’t. The crowd was nuts and the wilted.
It’s the same with all the Cavs games. There are good teams that do good things and do well. But Cavs just keep coming and over 48 minutes Cavs take over.
Kenny Smith eating crow now…love his thoughts on this series–a bit of a homer, no doubt. Agree with all of the ISO-ball hatred, but as this game unfolded, it is clear the deeper/better team is…I cannot help thinking game two is ours if we show up….
He’s trying SO hard to make it a JR anomaly game…
The Hawks looked truly defeated walking off the court! Nice block from shump to make a point at end. Go Cavs
I don’t like to overuse the word “beast.” But TT is a beast.
One of my friends just texted me, “It’s official Kendrick Perkins has resting murder face” LOL
Ha haaaaaaaa!!! Line of the night.
Barkley on JR: Once the house is on fire, you need to get the women and children out.
HHAHAAHHA I love it. Barkley knows a little something or two about layin pipe!
Who else is in to let Kyrie take the next game off so he gets better?
If we lose its ok we still have home court, if we win let him rest some more.
We do not beat the warrios with a hobbled Kyrie.
I think Marion is next man up. But ya we I think we let Irving sit till we lose.
Id be fine with resting Kyrie. It would give him four days off. With Carroll probably out, the Cavs could still win game two.
Game 2 we can use jr smith as a decoy to find openings for driving and other shooters. He will Kyle korver the crap out of the hawks
Man I believed we would this series but winning like this is so sweet. I like it when we are not the easy favorite and all the talking heads like the opposition. Moments tonight where we looked like a team that could win it all. What a story if we can pull this off without love. Swish just loving playing with cave and we sure do love him! Go cavs
Love that Shumpert blocked Teague’s academic last shot, Garnett style. Embarrassed, demoralized em. Hope Carroll’s Ok. Kyrie looks like Uncle Drew…..75 years old