5-on-5: Larry O’Brien Edition
2015-06-011. Who or what is the key to the Warriors winning the series?
Ben: Harrison Barnes. If the Tar Heel can legitimately guard LeBron, it frees Draymond Green to compete on the defensive boards. The Warriors are not a great defensive rebounding team. If Green is busy on LeBron for long stretches, it allows Tristan Thompson to go crazy on the offensive glass against a weaker positional rebounder in Barnes. Green loves to grab the rebound and push the ball on the break a la Charles Barkley. The Cavaliers will eliminate many of the Warriors’ advantages if Barnes can’t handle The King. TT gives the Wine and Gold extra chances while limiting the Dubs’ transition game. If Harrison is up to the task, Golden State becomes roughly impenetrable. Green and Bogut are great weakside defenders. If they are free to cover space, the Cavs are in trouble.
EvilGenius: The extra half second Steph Curry needs to get open. Quite literally, this will be the key to the Warriors success. To achieve this half second, the Warriors will need to be able to move the ball and set crucial picks like they have for the majority of the regular and post-season. The one team that was able to prevent them from doing so, was the Grizzlies in the first three games of the second round (before the Grindfather, Tony Allen, pulled up lame with a bad hammy). When Allen was on the floor in Games 1-3, fighting through picks and harassing the Brothers Splash, Steph shot 39.6% (28.5% from three), and Memphis went up 2-1. When he was missing for most of Games 4-6 (14 mins in Game 4, zero in 5 and five token mins in 6), Steph abused both a broken faced Mike Conley and Nick Calathes for 83 points on 44.4% shooting (51.4% from three). The Cavs have shown the ability to shut down teams from the perimeter thus far in the playoffs, leading all playoff teams by allowing a microscopic 28.1% from three. They will need Iman, J.R., Delly and LeBron to continue their commitment to close-outs, and also for Kyrie to be passable enough to be on the court. They will also need TT to continue switching effectively on smaller guards.
Robert: If the Warriors can limit the Cavs second chance opportunities and get out and score in bunches on the break, they will be very, very difficult to beat. The offensive glass is effectively where the series against the Bulls was won and, watching the games, it was clear that the team’s dogged board work absolutely broke the Hawks spirit. If Golden State can minimize Tristan Thompson, Timofey Mozgov and LeBron James (and, heck, even J.R. Smith) squeezing two, three or even four possessions out of one and then attack the Cavs D before it’s set, the Cavs will have to play perfect to win. This team is many things, but perfect ain’t one.
Cory: For the Warriors to win the series they will have to hold court and avoid the lulls that plagued them against the Rockets and Grizzlies. They were legit lucky to take the first two games against the Rockets. For the reputation they justifiably earned during the regular season for being an elite defensive team, there were moments where their players started pacing themselves the last two rounds. This Cavaliers team can build a big lead fast, then move into ground and pound mode eating up clock and suffocating your own shot clock with swarming perimeter defense on the other end of the court.
Lil b is terrible
— Marreese Speights (@Mospeights16) September 2, 2011
Also, they need to avoid being cursed by one of their biggest fans.
David: The Warriors need Barnes to play above average for an entire series. So far in the playoffs he has put up 11.3 points per game on 45% shooting. He’s had a 24 point game and an 0-9 game within a four day period. The Cavs may try to hide Kyrie on him for stretches, and LeBron may play some lazy defense on him to conserve energy. Can a player who couldn’t handle coming off of the bench to lead a second unit last season handle being the man called upon to win a game?
2. Who or what is the key to the Cavs winning the series?
Ben: For his 56th year, Blatt asked for the answer to the high screen and roll. Against the Hawks, Blatt gifted himself a brilliant solution. Unfortunately, the same solution, i.e., daring the ball handler to shoot, simply isn’t possible against the best shooter in the NBA. Blatt and his staff are probably going to allow any Pick and Pop shots not involving Klay Thompson. If the Cavs can force Curry into taking mid-range jumpers between the dropping (Icing) Cavalier big man and the chasing on-ball defender, Cleveland stands a chance. It doesn’t matter if Curry drops 50 if it comes on pull up 18 footers. The Warriors offense doesn’t get humming on all cylinders unless they can get into 4-on-3 situations. Blatt must have the guts to let Curry score. Just not from deep.
EvilGenius: The extra gear that LeBron can reach in the Finals. It’s been well documented already that Golden State is the favorite and the Cavs are the underdogs. The Warriors had the better record, the best scoring offense, the top ranked defense and the MVP of the League. However, to ever call LeBron James an underdog is borderline insulting. He is only the 9th player ever to play in five straight NBA Finals. He’s also brought the 10th along with him in James Jones. And even though guys like Jones, Shawn Marion, Mike Miller and Kendrick Perkins play limited (or non-existent) roles on the court, they have the wisdom and experience of 11 combined trips to the Finals prior to this year’s that they can impart to the youngsters on the team. (In case you weren’t counting along, that’s 16 Finals trips for the current Cavs vs. zero for the current Warriors.) Despite all of that, it will ultimately come down to LBJ and his ability to raise his game to an even insanely higher level in the Finals. It’s almost unfathomable that he could outpace the 30/11/9 line he racked up against the Hawks, but if anyone can, it’s the King. He has already deemed both himself and his Akron-born counterpart, Curry, as unstoppable as gravity. It will come down to which one is more unstoppable.
Robert: The Cavs need to be the more aggressive, physical team from jump. They need to… [reaches into his bag of old Mike Brown-isms] make the Warriors “feel them” and continue their defensive intensity. For a team whose defense, for much of the season, looked like a flock of birds flying into the engine of a 747, the swarming, attacking, grinding defense the team has busted out in the last two series gives the Cavs an extra dimension most people did not see coming when the playoffs opened.
Cory: For the Cavs to win the series they are going to need LeBron to find his jumper. He’s shot a career-low 17% from three in these playoffs. If he could raise it to 30%, the Warriors will have to pick their poison with him. If the defender starts going over the pick, it will open up James’ deadly drive and dish attack and give the roll man a cleaner path to the basket with an uncluttered lane.
David: The King needs to summon his inner Chevy Chase. Chase has (this thought is courtesy of Chuck Klosterman) never tried to venture outside of what he’s really good at, comedy, and the acting community hates him for it because he’s not seen as dedicated to mastering his craft. The King needs to just go to the block. He cannot be stopped by Draymond, Iggy, or Barnes if he puts his body into backing down and getting easy shots. Golden State may even half to double him with Bogut, who is leading the playoffs in rim protection allowing just 36% shooting at the rim. If LeBron plays down low, the Cavs will be free to whip the ball around, drive, and do all shorts of other scary offensive things. This is doable, LeBron even sort of looks like Chevy with his hairline. Cleveland needs him to be hated.
3. What is the most intriguing matchup in the series?
Ben: Kyrie vs Steph. We would all look forward to this even more if we knew Uncle Drew were at 100%. Still, the prospect of watching the two most exciting point guards in the world is exhilarating. Kyrie has a chance to completely put the NBA on its ear. Remember that Kyrie beat out Curry for the lead guard position for Team USA. The FIBA MVP will have a chance to take down the NBA MVP. Both guys probably feel slighted for different things. Both guys have come up huge in big moments. Basketball fans should all hope for health.
EvilGenius: Canadian Dynamite vs. The Dancing Bear. Okay, maybe it’s not fair to Draymond to perpetuate the old, irritating nickname given to him by Tom Izzo during his days at MSU. Green has slimmed down a bit since those days, and has transformed himself into a top-notch defender (finishing runner-up in the DPOY vote to Kawhi Leonard) and a well-rounded offensive player (finishing runner-up in the MIPOY vote to Jimmy Butler). However, for all of the exponential leaps forward Green has taken this year, Tristan Thompson has jumped just has high during these playoffs. After Kevin Love went down in the Celtics series, David Blatt made his third biggest potential mis-step of the post-season (behind the timeout that wasn’t and the scratched in-bounds play) and started Mike Miller at the four in Game 1 against the Bulls. That took about five minutes to fail worse than Tomorrowland did at the box office, and from then on, TT took over. Though his averages aren’t necessarily eye-popping, he’s had double digit rebounds in all but two of his nine playoff starts, and has absolutely dominated the front lines of both the Bulls and Hawks. I for one cannot wait to see these two high-motor forwards mix it up under the rim.
Robert: Wow. So many, but I’m going to pass over many of the bigger names and say that the matchup in the between Andrew Bogut/Festus Ezeli and Timofey Mozgov/Tristan Thompson will go a long way toward deciding the outcome of this series. Mozgov has a slight size advantage over Bogut and Thompson proved in the Chicago series that he can play bigger than his 6-8 frame (and, yes, I realize that Thompson has been listed as tall as 6-10… but, let’s face facts, he’s not). In particular, the Cavs need Thompson to continue his recent growth as a rim protector and stay out of the foul trouble the Warriors will likely try to get him into.
Cory: Lawd, there’s a number of them, but I’m going to go with a pair of guys who nearly shared the same bench this season. Both coaches are rooks by the standard of the term, but Blatt has twenty years on Kerr from the pine and Kerr has twenty something years of NBA experience on Blatt. This is going to be a close series and both teams are chalked with versatile players. Whoever adjusts better on the fly is going to win.
David: The best matchup this series is Kyrie and Curry. These two guys are offensively potent enough to force Sports Center into doing top-20 lists instead of top-10 lists each night a Finals game is on. However, they need to actually cover each other for the match up to pan out. I’ve seen Kyrie play superman defense this season anticipating screens, fighting over and under them, and actually blowing them up before they even start. If that Kyrie shows up and doesn’t have to be hidden on defense, the series will be infinitely more interesting because there will be lots of one-on-one battles between two otherworldly point guards.
4. Who is the x factor for each team?
Ben: For the Warriors it is Andre Iguodala. The Cavs offense relies on LeBron’s ability to back down any player who has the speed to guard him faced up. Andre is a supreme defender, but is a bit too light to handle Bron for long stretches. Moreover, Iggy is a hot and cold shooter from deep. If he can hang with Bron on the block and his shot is falling, the Warriors are invincible. That is an ultimate X factor. The rest of the guys on Golden State are more predictable.
For Cleveland, it is imperative that they keep complete focus on off-ball defense. They can’t allow the many backdoor cuts and baseline screens to result in layups. There will be very specific directions/rules for each Warrior. The Cavs must immediately recognize and identify each Warrior on the fly. Drop off non-shooters, chase over on shooters, and switch when appropriate. Small mistakes result in buried threes. The Cavs can’t afford a moment of confusion.
EvilGenius: I’ll go with “Injured Sidekicks” for 100, Alex. Answer: This Australian-born Blue Devil was the only NBA player to have multiple 55+ point games this season, and was the MVP of last year’s All-Star Game, but has been hobbled by multiple lower leg injuries in the playoffs. “Who is Kyrie Irving?” Correct! We would have also accepted “Who is Uncle Drew?” “Who is Kyriediculous?” and “Who is Magnum K.I.?” Okay, “Injured Sidekicks” for 200, Alex. Oh it’s the Daily Double!
Answer: This son of a former Laker great also scored 50+ points in a game this season, going 11-15 from three with an NBA record 37 point quarter, but was last seen woozy and throwing up after taking a Trevor Ariza knee to the head. “Who is Klay Thompson?” Correct! We would have also accepted “Who is the other Splash Brother?” Both of these guys claim they should be good to go for the Finals. Whoever is right, and whichever one can step up the most to help their respective superstar the most, should prove to be the X Factor of the series.
Robert: If we’re talking a lot about Harrison Barnes in this series, that’s probably bad news for the Cavs. The Warriors have so many weapons, Cleveland’s going to have to make sure one of them is firing blanks — and Barnes, while improved, is probably the guy the Cavs want to dare to hurt them… and really hope he doesn’t. For the Cavs, Iman Shumpert’s defense on Stephen Curry could (obviously) play a big role. No one expects that Curry will (or can) be shut down, but if Shumpert can make Curry work for the shots he makes and can disrupt him a little bit with his hustle and length [closes the bag of Mike Brown-isms… for now] Curry may, at least, become a slightly more guardable unguardable player.
Cory: For the Warriors, I’m going with Harrison Barnes also, but by design I want him to be talked about a lot. The Cavs are going to try to suffocate Curry or Thompson with Shump and help defense. If one of them can be neutered, another Warrior is going to have to step up. In the 2013 Western Conference Semi-Finals, the Spurs baited the Warriors into feeding the unattended Barnes (92 shot attempts) and it worked. Make Harrison Barnes beat you.
For the Cavs, I’m gonna go with J.R. Smith. Reputations are easy to earn and hard as hell to change. He can rewrite everything bad that’s ever been said about him in this series.
David: The x-factor for the Warriors is going to be whether or not Barnes shows up. He is the only person in the Warriors starting five that the Cavs can conceivably hide a person on defensively. If he’s on, the Cavs will have a hard time in this series. The x-factor for Cleveland is going to be offensive rebounding. The Warriors are among the top four playoff defenses. Offensive rebounding is going to help offset that wonderful defense. And, the Cavs are actually better than Golden State at rebounding. In the playoffs, the King’s Men have been grabbing an average of 6.5 more boards than opponents, while the Warriors have just been getting four more than their enemies.
5. Finals prediction.
Ben: I have gone back and forth on this quite a bit, but I will resist the urge to be realistic/pessimistic and actually go with my basketball sense. The Warriors have been the best team in the NBA all season and have a chance to go down as one of the best teams ever. BUT, this Cleveland team is the worst possible matchup for them. The Cavaliers’ insane ability on the offensive glass will prevent the Warriors from leaking out in transition for easy buckets. Golden State’s defensive positional flexibility is almost rendered irrelevant against a Cleveland offense that doesn’t utilize screens in the same way as all of the “space and pace” teams. If anybody on the Dubs can really prevent LeBron from getting to the rim on post-ups then the Warriors will win. But have we really seen that? Green and Barnes are in the conversation, but neither of them is in Kahwi Leonard’s class.
The Grizz were up a game before Tony Allen went down. The Cavs can do similar things on both ends but at a higher level. Like Memphis, the Cavs have shown a grit that I haven’t seen in years. Those 25-8 runs that the Warriors have every game won’t come easy againt the Cavs’ “Ball control” offense. Unlike the Warriors, the Cavs are incapable of giving up 40 point quarters. And they certainly won’t give half effort like the Rockets.
Blatt has always been known as a guy who can gameplan the Goliath into an average attack. I think the title drought ends. Cavs in 6.
EvilGenius: I’ve been saying for a while now that I not only believed the Cavs would make it to the Finals, but also that they would emerge victorious. Golden State will be a tough test… probably the toughest they’ve had yet. However, the only team I really worried about the Cavs facing in the Finals, the one team that I thought could come close to shutting down or neutralizing LeBron, was the one that did it so well last year, the Spurs. Golden State has tremendous athletes, and they go 10 deep, so they can wear teams down on both ends of the floor. They can be deadly marksmen from deep, however, they can also go cold for spurts. They haven’t played a truly physical opponent since the Grizzlies, and Memphis showed the beginnings of the blueprint required to beat the Warriors. The Cavs will need to get physical, will need to slow the game down, and continue their excellence in defending the perimeter. All those things will also need to be bolstered by maybe the best Finals performance of LeBron’s career for the Cavs to prevail. Given how much determination, grit, fire and will this team has shown to this point, I’m not going to bet against them. Cavs in six. LeBron wins the MVP for the Finals performance for the ages.
Robert: People have been asking me this all week. What I say — and truly believe — is that I could see this series going any way, excluding a sweep by either side (which, I guess, I could also see… but don’t want to think about). The fan in me wants this series to go the distance, though, so I’m going to say Cavs in 7. And, yes, I’ve already had several heart attacks just typing that, thinking about having to win a Game 7 on the Warriors floor. But, hey, let’s get our fandom’s money’s worth, people.
Cory: Maybe I’m a homer, or maybe I’ve just killed too many braincells with Jameson over the years, but I think Vegas is bananas to have the Warriors as such heavy favorites (a new series called Cory’s Adventures in Gambling will begin during the summer btw). The Cavs have defended the three better than anyone in the playoffs. The Cavs have gobbled up an astonishing 31% of offensive rebounds attempts with Thompson on the floor, and that will drastically limit the Warriors transition offense. The Cavs will win one of the first two games in Oakland. They will go on to win games 3 and 4 in Cleveland. The Warriors will strike back and win game 5. Then on Tuesday, June 16th just before midnight, the 51-year hourglass will be flipped over. The curse of John D. Rockefeller for his crimes against nature will be forgotten. LeBron will win his third Finals MVP and a million grown men in NEO will cry in unison.
David: The Cavs are going to win in six games, and LeBron will be the MVP. There often comes a point in life where you want something so badly that the situations surrounding it don’t matter. This is that point for LeBron. How could he not want to bring a title home for Cleveland more than anything he has ever desired? Leaving the Land allowed him to see that the city needs this title more than anything. His departure caused mass depression and a spike in booze sales. It’s not often that a player can actually be bigger than an entire city. LA didn’t miss Shaq when he left. Denver didn’t freak out when Carmelo was traded, and Toronto didn’t fall into a malaise because Bosh left. It’s a sad but true reality.
And if that isn’t the case, the Cavs have Delly. The Aussie man has already taken out one of the NBA’s top three shooters and gotten two game changing bigs ejected. Curry, Thompson, Green, and Iggy best watch themselves.
I live in SF, so I feel like I’m living in enemy territory. I grew up in Rocky River, but my favorite sports team has always and forever be Cleveland (Cavs, Indians, Browns). Every time I try to argue with a Golden State Fan, they think I’m crazy that Cavs have a solid chance. They also seem to complain that the Warriors haven’t won a championship since ’75, so they are more deserving. Cavs have never won a championship! When I bring this up, I’m met with skepticism and a, “whats your point” look. If we have a healthy Kyrie,… Read more »
I feel you Dave — so many Warriors fans around my town but what they don’t understand is that this Cavs team is a team of DESTINY — LeBron has waited so long to do what he was meant to do and this is his time — our time — ALL IN
Here is an article from the PD this past July. This will get the juices flowing. I hope Lebron reads this again:
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2014/07/how_lebron_james_learned_about.html
Mr. Green, you said too much: http://uproxx.com/dimemag/2015/06/lebron-james-mocked-twitter-college-draymond-green/
How much should I pay for a ticket in the event of Game 6 at the Q with the Cavs leading 3-2 ?
Once in a lifetime opportunity… I live in SF and nosebleed seats are going for $1000
As much as I’d like to spend that $$ I have 2 kids and a mortgage :(
Not sure what the historic rate is for potentially series clinching tickets are, but I’d say it would be worth the memories, camaraderie, and pure awesomeness of being there. Although my wife would disagree about spending that much $$ :)
@AkronJackson: There is currently a line out the door at Summit Mall because Matthew Dellavedova is inside signing autographs. This is a real tweet.
Cols is gotta be the first in line, since he’s such a big Delly fan.
https://vine.co/v/ehHMEnl3jB1
Here’s a vine of the crowd…
We got his autograph on opening night – #truefans knew what was up! Or, he’s just the only guy who really signs autographs for everyone who comes down to the fan area =)
#Dellyforlife
How do i embed the picture instead of just linking it?
Everyone is forgetting about the mental side of this series for me it will be interesting to see how the young Cavs will react IF the Warriors go up 2-0. How will they react if Curry or Thompson begin to drop 3’s like crazy, to be honest they haven’t faced an offensive juggernaut like the Warriors yet.
As long as they play defense the right way and compete as hard as possible like they have done so far I will be ok with them.
I agree with Ben that this one of the most important things that the Cavs need to focus in therms of their defense :
For Cleveland, it is imperative that they keep complete focus on off-ball defense. They can’t allow the many backdoor cuts and baseline screens to result in layups. There will be very specific directions/rules for each Warrior. The Cavs must immediately recognize and identify each Warrior on the fly. Drop off non-shooters, chase over on shooters, and switch when appropriate. Small mistakes result in buried threes. The Cavs can’t afford a moment of confusion.
+100000000
Great analysis, though I am not all that optimistic, cleveland fandom what can I say. Neil Paine’s analysis marks GS as historically great. I am not huge on analytics depending on the stats being used, but watching GS this year, they sure past the eye test. They look scary. Then again never thought we would sweep the hawks, the caveat being I hadn’t watched the Hawks much this postseason. They truly seemed like they never recovered their mojo from their streak. However, considering my expectations for this team at the beginning of the year (east conf finals) and my expectations… Read more »
Just watch this on a loop until Thursday…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhsJE3YBOg4
That’s great! Love Skip Bayless bowing down before the king. Also looking over my spelling and grammar above makes me cringe. Got to stop posting comments from my phone.
I’ve been saying to my friends here that Cavs will win in 7 in order to seem respectful to a very hungry fanbase and a truly epic team. They hesitate and shake their heads. But I’ll tell why we’re going to win in 5 or 6: leadership and team chemistry. Strange, right? No continuity. Plenty of misfits. The truth is, we’ve been through some hard times and we’ve got guys that know all about hard times when the stakes are high. GS, for all its splendor, doesn’t have the will and confidence to manage adversity. Lebron, TT and JR (and… Read more »
It will be incredibly important for Cavs to split the first two games at Golden State. If they can do that, they take home court away from the Warriors, and develop significant momentum within the series.
I agree, if the Cavs go down 2-0 then is just a matter of in how many games the Warriors will win the whole thing.
very good article and comments by the CtB writers on this…few of my thoughts on why Cavs will win – they are on fire this postseason, they have won 7 straight games and only 2 of them were close while the other 5 were blowouts or games out of reach from the get go even if final score looked close – Delly factor, its not coincidence two straight series he has been focal point for being aggressive and getting big men ejected and eventually getting a top seed team to completely lose their shit over his ‘dirty’ play and become… Read more »
I’m cautiously optimistic because the Cavs have a lot of different possible paths to victory. If LeBron has the same energy he had in game 4 against Atlanta, that alone could carry the day. If Kyrie has recovered enough to defend Curry and stay on the floor, that opens up the Cavs’ offense. If Moz dominates inside… If JR or Shump goes off… If the Cavs are too physical for GS… It’s a little different from the usual ‘If X, Y and Z all go right, then the Browns might be a .500 team’ that we’re accustomed to as Cleveland… Read more »
Here’s one that may bring a tear to your eye. From Sunday’s Plain Dealer for those of you out of the loop.
I live in Chicago, where it’s hard to walk one block without running into a Cleveland native. Half of my friends in the city have ties to Cleveland, and we’ve had an informal pact for years that when Cleveland is poised to win its first championship in our lifetime, we’ll return home……
click for the rest of the story.
http://plaindealer.oh.bb.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=2336aa14a
Murphy – I live in Chicago too and am looking for a place where I can watch the finals with other Cavs fans. Any ideas?
My bad. I didn’t realize that you were pasting from the article.
No problem. Maybe try contacting the writer. I also ask my son. He’s got quite a few friends there.
Great piece gentlemen. I can’t bring myself to make a prediction. The analytical lawyer in me says Warriors are just too talented, too smart, and too deep. I can easily see us down 2-0 with KI reinjured before the first fan enters the Q. There was an article on fivethirty-eight about how this is one of the worst finals teams, barely better than the 2007 squad. There are bones to pick with it, of course, but its pure analytics and their point is well made. GS is one of the best teams. Vegas, who is smart, is against us. On… Read more »
I knew that was coming.
Am I that predictable? ;)
The thing everyone is missing is that playoff JR Smith > Klay Thompson
We’re not missing it – it’s not true. 30 out of 30 GMs take Klay over J.R. I love J.R., but come on, man. If these guys switched teams you’d be all over us about how Klay is 10 times better than J.R.
I think the best we can say about JR is that he is an X-factor who has the capability to outperform a great player like Thompson in a short series like this.
But I agree with Joey B that you can’t say JR > Klay Thompson based on just the playoffs.
I’m not saying you would take JR over Klay if given that choice. I’m saying that during these playoffs JR > Klay. He’s been better at offense and defense.
Curry>Kyrie
JR = Klay
LeBron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whoever
Cavs in 6
But that doesn’t mean anything against GS. Too small a sample size. Klay is better than JR, but JR could outplay him.
I agree with this–if Kyrie’s healthy or close to it, he’s nearly as good as Curry. And it’s worth remembering that Kyrie is the second-best player on our team, far behind LeBron.
Per 48 minutes in the playoffs:
Klay Thompson has 27 points, 4 assists, and 5 rebounds.
J.R. Smith has 22 points, 2 assists, and 8 rebounds.
From nba.com. So far these guys have been pretty comparable. Maybe Klay has been better, but only very slightly.
Yep. And JR has been playing tremendous defense.
Good stuff. I agree with some of you that Barnes is sort of key, i.e., if he is being talked about, the Cavs are in trouble. The most important player to try to control is Green. If they can’t make him hit the boards, he is annoying as hell. I really have no idea what to expect in this series. We’ll know a lot more about some of these matchups after the first game. I predict Bogut gets away with a lot of nonsense around the hoop, since he always does. I hope Lebron and Irving can get Green into… Read more »
@RealGM: Andrew Bogut Lobbied Warriors To Sign Matthew Dellavedova: http://t.co/gju4IG9tWx
Wow, this is a more optimistic take than I would have guessed. I can live with and rationalize away any outcome for this series. It’s been a season for the ages (good and bad) whether we win the whole thing or get swept.
I think the key predictive issue is finding out if the Cavs great playoff D is for real or a product of some terrible east teams, bad coaching and timely individual slumps/injuries. If it’s real and if Lebron can recapture even his average jump shot I like the Cavs to surprise Vegas. Hoping for the best!
It is impossible for cavs to get swept with this version of Lebron
Take a look at LBJ’s highlights from 2007 against Detroit. That kid was AMAZING. And he got swept in the finals, and it wasn’t close. MAYBE this version is better because of experience, but 2007 Lebron was a force of nature.
They got swept by a team with 3 HOF on it. And that LeBron was not this LeBron who is much more mentally tough.
Another prediction: A Mozzy 20-20 game against his favorite team
Good point. He had a 29 rebound, 23 point, 3 block game last year against GSW.
What Ben said about Golden State’s amoeba-defense being “almost rendered irrelevant against a Cleveland offense that doesn’t utilize screens in the same way as all of the ‘space and pace’ teams” is a great point and the biggest reason I think the Cavs will beat the Warriors these Finals. The Warriors are the model team for this new age of basketball: they’re all about scoring in transition/spurts of 3’s on offense and switching/causing chaos on defense. However, one of the best ways to remain competitive in many fields is to zig when others zag — the Grizzlies’ Grit-N-Grind methods just… Read more »
(I mean Cavs in 6 – forgot about the newer 2-2-1-1-1 format)
I agree with this take. But we need to avoid pure LeIso. We need the LeIso and Ky-Iso tag team, with lots of driving and kicking. But the key is SLOW THE PACE.
Yeah I left Kyrie out of my post on purpose. Considering the rest and the stakes, I wanna be optimistic that he can perform well, but at this point I’m also not gonna assume we get a ton more out of him than the last two series. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
No Isolations 20 feet from the basket. LeBron can be stopped if he’s a jump shooter, especially when he holds the ball for 20 seconds. But if he isolates in the post or on short dribble drives, he might be the most unstoppable player on the planet.
In 9 out of 10 instances I agree, but there will be times when the Warriors start picking up the pace and heating up from deep, and the egregious LeIso is used as the dagger in a momentum swing. I get that the LeIso that involves 20 seconds of jab steps beyond the arc culminating in a fade-away 3 is one of the worst possible shots a half-court offense can take, but when LeBron times that particular shot at the right time — and I think he has a good sense of this — it is the one of the… Read more »
One of my big worries is Lebron losing the handle on some of thise isos giving the Warriors fast break points. See James Harden game 5.
1. Controlling the boards against the Cavs. The Cavs have a more efficient offense in the post-season than the Warriors because they get lots of shots per possession. If Warriors keep us off glass, our efficiency plummets. 2. Slowing the pace. Cavs have played slower in the playoffs with Love out. Because they control the glass, the slow play has led to super efficient offense. Warriors are the opposite. They aren’t as efficient per possession, but they create lots of possessions by pushing the pace. The Cavs need this series to be at a slow pace. 3. Kyrie v. Steph.… Read more »
Phil great video/ thank you for sharing—–cavs players need to watch—-better yet show this on the jumbo scoreboard at the “Q”
The gent at the end is great. “I used to be 6 foot 2…”
@kpelton: Adjusted for opponents, the Cavs have been the best team in the playoffs. What does that mean for their chances? http://t.co/RS5CoGsN4a (In)
It means Cavs in 6. No analytics needed.
I think the Cavs might also have the best team if you look at the last 57 games (games since 1/15 PLUS playoffs). At worst, things bw Cavs and Warriors would be wash.
One the biggest analytical fallacies I see from national media analyzing this series is including data from pre-1/15 Cavs in comparisons of the two teams. Pre 1/15 Cavs had a different roster that is not relevant for making inferences about this series.
great job guys ( as usual ) good insights on making difficult decisions / picks —–Delly needs to be PLAYOFF Delly and not early season Delly —–TT has to prove he has Grown more ( as a player ) than Barnes —-Kyrie not only healthy for game 1 but for the entire series —Lebron shows Curry that it is more vital / fun / rewarding to be the PLAYOFF MVP rather than regular season —-Shumpert / JR continue to have that ” street assassin ” mentality / toughness– FIANAL JEOPARDY —OUR 6TH MAN ( THE BEST DAMN FANS IN THE… Read more »
Literally just reading predictions that we have a chance gets me choked up…I can’t even fathom if it were to happen.
Cavs in 7, Cleveland burns to the ground before the game even ends.
Grown men will be crying in all corners of the globe, Cory!
It’s a different sport, but maybe something like this, which was the end of a 44-year drought:
https://youtu.be/ADsZ3Tw-k3A?t=260
Good stuff guys! I also have the Cavs winning in 6. I don’t think home court is as big a deal as people think. This is where EG’s experience comes into play. Does anyone think LBJ will be influenced by crowd noise? JR? even Kyrie and TT don’t strike me as guys who would clam up at the highest levels. The only guy I see getting jitters is Moz and we can live with those moments (or Blatt will just pull him). I could see the series going similar to the Bulls. Cavs and Warriors splitting home/away for the first… Read more »
Yeah, though the defensive strategy that worked so well against the Hawks (and the Bulls) just ain’t gonna work against the Warriors, Cavs dropped back and dared the Hawks to shoot off-the-dribble 3’s…can’t do that against Steph. We’ll see. I think it’s going to be a very interesting series.
The Warriors’crowd isn’t so much about what they do to opponents as how they energize the their players.