Finals Live Thread: Game 4, Warriors @ Cavs
2015-06-11I want to get very specific. Everyone watching the Cavs sort of shutdown the Warriors can recognize what’s going on: the Cavs are protecting the ball, limiting 3-point makes, slowing the game’s pace, making role players perform, and marching the NBA back to a time where games had less than 200 combined points and more than 200 combined hand-checks. Let’s check out some numbers from these playoffs to get a better appreciation for the Cavs 2-1 series lead.
LeBron James
The King has truly become the fearless leader of this Cavs team. There’s no arguing that. He yells at guys and a minute later points to the same guy saying, “you the man.” Throughout the season where he has placed his command throne on the court has changed. Look at his regular season shot chart:
Notice the high-post area where LeBron is Einstein. He just didn’t want to show his brilliance off during the regular season, and he settled for that comfortable undefended mid-range jumper. He took nearly 27% of his shots there, and sank two percent less than league average.
Now let’s look at his shots during the Eastern Conference playoffs. LeBron changed his mindset about getting to his happy place.
He started taking the ball in the high-post, as teams put smaller defenders such as Jimmy Butler and Jae Crowder on him. He used his patented adamantium shoulder to collapse chests with his first step, and the results were beautiful. Even though LeBron shot roughly average from the post, he hooked up shooters and cutters when the Bulls, Hawks, and Celtics sent an extra help defender to stop him from scoring.
Now let’s look at the King’s shot chart during this Warriors series:
In the first three games of the Warriors series, the King has been taking his talents to the post even more frequently. He’s staring Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes, and Andre Iguodala in the eyes and showing he isn’t scared to boogie despite a barrage of grabby hands.
The change in where LeBron is shooting is actually not what people should be focused on though. LeBron has essentially taken up an extra 1/3rd of the ball handling responsibilities in the playoffs and some how protected the ball even better. Looking over SportsVU possession data from the regular season, you can see that LeBron held the ball 6.1 minutes per game. During the playoffs, that number has jumped to 9.0 minutes per game (he has also started receiving the ball 1.4 more times in the post than he did during the regular season).
What’s truly amazing though has to do with the King’s turnovers. During the regular season, he turned the ball over 3.9 times a match, or about one time every 1.56 minutes. During the playoffs, the King has been turning the ball over 4.2 times a game, or once every 2.14 minutes. That’s some serious ball security right there. How is he doing it?
I would say that he is hyper-focused. I would also say that he knows how to better survey the floor from the post than on pick and rolls. He has also stopped trying to thread impossible passes on pick and roll plays.
What’s even crazier about LeBron’s ball security is that the one turnover every 2.14 minutes of possession is skewed. LeBron has had just ten turnovers in the three games against the Warriors, and he has held on to the ball even more, since Kyrie Irving went down. Unfortunately, the SportsVU data I have access to doesn’t let me look at specific dates, so just be happy knowing LeBron is constantly improving during this Finals run.
The Warriors
When you think Warriors, what comes to your mind? I think about 3-point shooting and the Splash Bros, Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson. Those bros ranked number one and two, respectively, for made 3s in the regular season. They also rank one and two so far this postseason. However, they aren’t doing so well during the first three games of the finals. The Cavs have held them both under 33% from 3-point land.
This is a problem for the Warriors because when they have struggled in the postseason or fell behind, they have jacked up threes to get caught up/gain momentum. During the regular season, the Warriors took 30.9% of their shots from 3-point land, and they made 40% of them. They hit 10.7 per game.
During their Western Conference playoffs run, the Warriors started taking 35.7% of their shots from beyond the arc. They made 11.7 per game, but their shooting percentage dropped to 38. This uptick in 3-point shooting helped them overcome dialed in defenses and helped during a 20 point fourth quarter comeback win against the Pelicans.
In the finals, 36.8% of the Warriors shots are three-pointers, but they’re making just ten a game at a 31.3% rate. The Warriors shooting has gotten progressively worse throughout the playoffs, and this is a product of better defensives and their own mindset.
Throughout the regular season the Warriors would shoot their way out of trouble. This is great when it works, but when the ball isn’t dropping it helps to have guys that can simply dunk over someone to score or back their way down/dribble to a layup. Sure, the Warriors have guys who can do those things, but that is none of their players’ calling card. The Cavs number one skill….Okay, LeBron’s number one skill is being able to back guys down to get an easy bucket, or back guys down to create an easy layup for a teammate.
Matthew Dellavedova Is Objectively Doing Stuff
What Matthew Dellavedova is doing this series is absolutely amazing, and there are actual stats which are objectively impressive enough to show how amazing it is. NBA.com has a stat that shows how well a player defends opponents. It takes the opponents’ average shooting percentage and compares it to what they shoot when covered by a specific man. In the Playoffs, Delly has caused opponents to shoot 1.4% worse than their average from 3-point land. In the Finals, if Delly defends the 3-ball, the shooter is shooting 25.9% worse than their average. That’s not a typo. Stephan Curry has shot just 32% in the past three games, which is pretty far away from his regular season average of 44%. If the Cavs laid the Delly onto Draymond Green, who is currently shooting 12.5% from 3-land this series, he would theoretically be shooting a negative percentage on 3-balls, which is impossible. Thankfully for stat recorders, that matchup won’t happen.
Game Four Thoughts
A lot of people are pointing to Stephen Curry’s 17 point barrage in the fourth quarter of game three as a sign that he’s going to start playing at his MVP level again. That doesn’t scare me. The Cavs have now given up three leads in the fourth quarter. J.R. Smith has yet to have a lava heat level shooting game (He has scored just 32 points total is three games). LeBron James is shooting only 40%. Iman Shumpert has yet to have a break out game. And, Tristan Thompson is shooting just 33% on shots.
The Cavs are causing Curry to falter. The Warriors aren’t really causing J.R. to struggle or Shumpert to struggle. The Warriors are game planning for LeBron James, and the King is still averaging 41 points, 8.3 assists, and 12 rebounds on 40% shooting. 40% shooting is great for some guys, not for LBJ. Eventually, more of his shots will drop. The same goes for TT. TT isn’t a jump shooter. He will shoot more than 33% considering most of his shots are simply put backs.
This game is a must win for the Warriors. They need both Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry to perform along with one other role player if they want a decisive victory. The Cavs just need one random hot game from a role player to win big tonight. The Cavs have the upper hand, and will come out looking to keep it.
What are your predictions tonight?
I’m picking the Cavs to win this game 110-92. The Cavs aren’t likely to have another fourth quarter melt down, and I would bet on one of the Wine & Gold role players getting hot before Draymond Green or Harrison Barnes does. Those two Golden States guys are too busy covering LeBron.
Game 4 thoughts: To have a shot heading into the 4th with LeBron playing through a serious laceration and potentially mild concussion and with Delly having to ask out due to cramping, following the night in the hospital… once we’ve gone from underdogs to perhaps favorites and certainly media darlings and when the Warriors have way more urgency to win Game 4 than us… and under the spectre of one Mr. Joey Crawford… to have a shot heading into the 4th is pretty remarkable considering the guys we have out, let’s note. But that kind of three-point shooting night ain’t… Read more »
Also, I should mention Mozgov’s breakout game – he was the game-high scorer with 28. TEE-MO! We won the rebounding battle, especially on the offensive boards. Plenty to build on here…
Lebron said he was gassed at end of 3rd qtr, no surprise. That 1st quarter pace was not ideal. Kind of played into GS’s hands. But at some point, you have to hit some shots to slow them down.
I liked Lebron’s demeanor at the podium. Hope he comes out and dominate next game.
Joey Crawford just gave Tim Duncan a technical.
Joey Crawford is a douchebag Hall Monitor that can lick Delly’s sweaty red haired arse.
Well, I didn’t mind that at all, actually. My only beef was that I thought Blatt could’ve waived the white flag earlier and let the guys rest. They were exhausted from about 5 minutes in. GS made good adjustments and we didn’t counter very well. LBJ and Delly were particularly gassed. I was worried when Delly said no coffee. When you’re used to it you get sluggish and a headache if you go without. Get rest, come out for Game five like you did for game one and we’ll be fine. J.R. and JFJ need to put up a bunch… Read more »
Cleveland!!! We can win a title! Fluke games by iguadala will not destroy us…only delay us a few days. We are more motivated and we are more willing. Give me mozgov’s game 4 and Lebron’s game 2 and a couple big threes a piece from smith and shrimp and game 5 is a ten point cavs win with another Tyrannosaurus rex spike of the ball at the very end!
Shump*. Lol not shrimp
How are you going to send your best men out to die without using men with fresh legs on the bench. You can’t hide behind Jr and shumpert which was in the majority of all the other games for heavy minutes. You have to at least find out what else you have and set a platform for a transition for the next game . The bench don’t know how the warriors play because you didn’t use them. You have a young boy in harris that loves to drive and can run around to at least if nothing else give someone… Read more »
WHy are you even on here? Warriors have their own blogs. You know nothing about this Cav team.
Lebron just come on da podium
Meanwhile, Moz finally had a podium game…
I hope Lebron is there with him,because his English aint that good to have all the questions going to him all the time
I don’t listen to the post game stuff when we lose. Too depressing. But I would like to here this.
Look’s like Cavs plays good when the odd’s are against them, backs against the wall. Hope they come with that killer mentality on Sunday
He CAVS should just send Joe Harris, Haywood, Miller, Perk and JR to Oakland. Let the rest of the team wait here for game 6.
Ha – interesting to think about…
@johnschuhmann: Warriors new starting lineup was actually a minus-1 in 14.4 minutes tonight.
@KeithBritton86: Anonymous #Warriors player to anonymous #Cavs player in hallway: “We kicked the shit out of you guys”
Would be great if the Cavs player says the same thing after Game 5
Bulletin board material…
I don’t want to say it was definitely Draymond Green, but it was DEFINITELY Draymond Green.
@MrMichaelLee: JR Smith just rolled by the media workroom on his hands free Segway #NBAFinals
Maybe JR can bring his drone with him to the next game?
I mean we had to know that was coming at some point. It’s not the end. Sunshine Bear is here to tell you that it’s all
Going to be good. We get two days off to rest and scheme. A win in their place in game five then bring it home in 6. We still got this.
Tough loss, but they can’t let it get them down. They had the will to win two of the first three. They’re going to have to dig deep and win two of the last three. As long as there are games left to play, they have a chance.
Silver lining: hopefully the Cavs didn’t exert too much energy tonight. And come come back fresh for the next 2-3 games. I’d rather see this lax blowout affair than an overtime heartbreaker which would be extremely demoralizing. LeBron was smiling at the end of the game. I think it’s because he knows they’ll play better and feel fresher next time.
This is our worst loss in the playoffs, and it sucks sooo bad , my gosh.
The 2 days of rest will help a lot but Blatt needs to at least add one or more guys to his rotation. The Cavs just didn’t have their legs tonight.
Might be able to get Miller in there against their bench and hide him on someone. If he could somehow make a couple of shots it could be big.
Blatt at the podium right now
Best of 3 now. It’s a fresh series.
fresh series with tired guys. I hope they can max their down time and get amped for game 5.
fresh series? longer this goes, with short bench, it’s to our DISADVANTAGE… it’s NOT fresh series.. Cavs are fatigued and beat… and play 2 of 3 in GS land.. winning the series is now a near miracle… (already was b4 the series)… before tonight, winning the series was highly improbable… now, near miracle needed..
but it happen.. I watched US vs Russia in Hockey back in 1980… that happens every 40 years…
Cavs players not named LeBron James, Timofey Mozgov or Tristan Thompson: 7-40 FG, 22 Pts, 4 TOs
I will say this for Moz — he looks like he never gets tired.
He’s being defended by people who are close to a foot shorter than him. He’s dominating them. But it’s a honey trap. Cavs aren’t gonna ride Moz to the championship.
Right, he’s not working overly hard on defense, but he always runs the court, and always seems to have his legs. Might be the vodka.
Def the vodka. He was fantastic tonight, really. Lebron is the guy though. He didn’t bring it tonight. Sure, he played well in relation to other nba players, but he needs to go nova for the cavs to pull this off.
Can’t win games like AT ALL. 4 -17 on 2’s and 3-23 on 3 pointers. Just an ugly game overall
It’s all good. We will get them in game 5. And if not the. 6 and 7.
yes what’s up with the crowd.. just did not look like they were in it….even if we are playing catch up mode the entire game.. crowd needed a bit more energy.. not like we get these home finals every year…
I think the fans sensed how exhausted the team looked. Delly in particular just wasn’t himself. Just let him sleep for 24 straight hours with an IV drip.
If we can somehow win Game 5 I will be ecstatic
If the Cavs don’t get the Win on Sunday is over IMO. They are not winning a game 7 on the road without Kyrie and Kevin.
Didn’t get Blatt’s strategy to rest guys opening the 4th for this game. Down single digits after trailing big and fighting back. Up to 10 before Lebron and Delly checked back in. Maybe the long game is to keep guys fresh for game 5 but obviously winning 2 of 3 is a tougher road.
I think he probably didn’t have any choice. I’m sure Lebron came in when he felt he could. But yeah, that was a brutal lineup on the floor.
He’s gotta rest lebron at least a little, but the offense goes to hell whenever he’s not in.
yes. when I saw that.. watching Kentucky play division 2… am sure Lebron needed the break for sure.. but wish Blatt took him out in 3Q with 1-2 min to go instead… we were down just 3 (less if Lebron made so FTs)… then 3 became 6 with Curry’s 3 at enof Q3 and then 12 within 2 min of Q4.. that was ball game
totally agree. You have to play the player lineup with the flow of the game. Cavs rallied from 15 down to 3, Then the brutal lineup coughs it back up to 10. Just can’t expect this club to rally back from that.
Maybe the Cavs can try a 2 man game with JR and LeBron and maybe JR can get some decent shots off of it.
Shots were dropping for GS. Cavs looked gassed. Crowd was lame.
Let’s get game 5.
Pretty much sums it up.
Oh, and we lost the game while winning the rebounding battle (+5)
The thing about this is during the first quarter we didn’t dominate the defensive boards. Thats when we lost
Let’s hope the Cavs can recover enough to steal another one at their gym. This next game is a must win for the Cavs. …well basically every game from now on is a must win for both since it is the best of 3 now.
I don’t like Delly shooting 9 3’s in a game at all. Lebron only attempted 22 shot attempts, not good. This was a game we need him to shoot 30+
so many writing / hoping fr JR to have big game… we don’t need BIG game .. we just need 10-14 point type of SOLID game from JR and Shumpert…. and play better D (for JR)… Splash bro had decent night but not great night.. we let Livingston and Iggy kill us with over 40 points from them… that killed us.. Lebron looed bad from beginning.. missing two layups first few min.. just knew that he wasn’t all there tonight… even before camera incident.. well.. we get 2 day rest… better show up Sunday.. otherwise, we lose by 30 in… Read more »
Kerr finally decided to double LeBron… and the only guy who hit shots out of his passes was Moz. Plain and simple.
Iggy had 22 and Livingston had 7 for 29. Iggy had more points than Lebron (20). That can’t happen again
Man we need a big jr smith game in Oakland. Rest will help too.
Exactly, basically our bench gave us 4 points (JR), Joe and Perk gave us 3 for a grand total of 7 points
LeBron had 0 points in 4Q.. he did NOT play well – what r u drinking? just like last year’s 4th finals game, James had 0 points… not a good thing…
perimeter guys should be pissed off as heck for game 5… they didn’t earn their pay check tonight… terrible game for JR… my gosh, he was awful
Was JR bad? I didn’t notice the first fifteen times you mentioned it…
as I sated b4 I say how I see it man. u don’t like it, don’t read my comments.. no one asked you to.
No… actually, you repeat it how you see it… ad nauseam… JR had a bad game. We get it. Move on…
of course I am pissed… me and thousands of others NOT on this board… you need to get over it… tomorrow we move on from tonight’s feelings… again, quit reading my posts then… not like I enjoy reading yours
And you don’t have to read mine either. Mine are just not predominantly negative nor hyper-repetitive…
Also, you’ve never posted before tonight. Seems odd that you just started posting halfway through the Cavs first poor game and most of your comments have been critical… Where were you in the first three games… or the rest of the playoffs… or the entire season?
Lebron, Moz and TT played well enough, if they had gotten ANYTHING from the perimeter guys.
If Only. I find JR/Shump hasnt had any good offensive games in these 4 games in the finals. Mozgov has been the second best player for the Cavs in the Finals and really came up big tonight. Sigh
Yeah, the problem is GS has defended the perimeter well, and those guys – Delly, Shump, JR – aren’t really the type of guys that can consistently beat a good defender off the dribble. We missed a dumptruck load of threes tonight, and didn’t get a lot of open looks.
I came into this thinking this was the pivotal game of the series – would show either that GS could make adjustments and defeat the Cavs’ defense or the Cavs would continue to shut them down. This was disappointing, but I’m still optimistic. The biggest thing I noticed was that the Cavs were completely gassed. It’s part of the reason they shot so badly and it probably led to some defensive breakdowns as well. Every game from now on comes after 2 days of rest (travel, yes, but more rest nonetheless) – that benefits Cleveland more than GS. Also, GS… Read more »
There’s only one rest day before game 6,
Ah, you’re right. Ok, not great, but 5 games in three nights was what really killed them. Hopefully this extra day gives them a big boost.
Lebron needs to figure out Andre Iguodala. He must find a way to score consistently against him. Not pass, score. Get one or two good screens to force a switch if he cant. Also, Blatt for all the praise I have given him, didnt do his job today. He has to know how tired his players are, so as painful as it may seem he has to extend the rotation a bit, get some fresh legs. Especially when Lebron plays the dropoff between JR or Shump when they play like tonight with Smokin Joe wouldnt be that big. I think… Read more »
And its not about the threes. Lebron and Delly could barely advance the ball in the fourth.
It’s a challenge because Iguodala is a decent defender who also gets away with a lot of hammering on LeBron.
Can any of us really say we are surprised after memphis game 4 and the 4th qtr of game 3? They figured it out. It sucks but cavs need to respond and adjust. Even if they don’t did still a great run. Be happy, don’t worry, even if we don’t win, still more than anyone, anyone expected of this team.
There is no moral victories or anything especially in the Finals. A loss is a loss and Cavs aint reach all the way to this point to loose, especially to the Warriors
Gotta agree more with John B here. We are definitely playing with house money here!