Recap: Pistons 104, Cavs 99 (or, Taking a Hit in Motown…)
2015-11-18The team from the town that is home to “Hitsville, USA” dropped a big one on the visiting Cavaliers at the Palace at Auburn Hills last night. Though Cleveland led for much of the contest, the Pistons were able to reel off a staccato of points in the fourth quarter and twist the night away from the Cavs by getting into a defensive groove. However, if not for a repeat performance from the wine & gold of their own self-inflicted hits that keep on coming, they might have walked away from this one singing an entirely different tune…
[Editor’s Note: For your listening pleasure (if you’re interested), each headline is a link to the Motown song of the same name.]
I Heard It Through The Grapevine
Let me start this off by repeating something I’ve been hearing a lot lately… the Central Division is not only much improved, but it might be very well be the deepest and one of the physically toughest divisions in the NBA. The Milwaukee Bucks are the currently the low man on the totem pole at 5-6, but many experts picked them to be a mid-level playoff team. Beyond the Cavs and Bulls, the Bucks, Pistons and Pacers all have a legitimate chance to make the postseason. Though unlikely that all five would make it, it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Thus far, the Cavs have gone just 1-3 versus the members of their own division. The lone win was at the Q in a close game with Indiana, and all three losses have been on the road. They have all been hard fought contests, in which the Cavs not only been competitive, but also had the opportunity to win in the final minute. But, that’s just not a good enough outcome against division rivals. The Cavaliers need to be able to impose their will on these teams to prevent them from gaining the confidence required to make life more difficult for Cleveland in say an early playoff round.
This Pistons team demonstrated just how far they’ve come by rolling out a reasonable facsimile of their architect’s previous construct — the 2008-09 Orlando Magic. Yes, the Master of Panic, Stan Van Gundy, is at it again, surrounding a burgeoning star big man in the middle with a speedy trigger man and a bevy of shooters who can gun it from deep. And, while the long range bombers haven’t yet reached the full-on “YOLO” stage that the Magic achieved, the scary part is that Andre “The Giant” Drummond might actually wind up being a bigger talent than D12. At least he can’t hit free throws either (well, except against the Cavs, but we’ll get to that).
Heat Wave
For anyone wondering if J.R. was ever going to change the Smith back to Swish, the first few minutes of each half of this game not only rekindled the spark, but instantly raised the temperature to blazing. To start the game, J.R. nailed a jumper, intercepted an errant Reggie Jackson pass for a run-out dunk, and then torched the net from downtown, tallying the Cavs’ first seven points. After halftime, J.R. came out scorching once more, tossing two more fireballs through the hoop from beyond the arc, with the second giving the Cavs their largest lead of the game, 70-57…
Unfortunately, the J.R. heat wave met up with a cold front (or in this case a cold shoulder) as beyond these first few minutes of the halves, his teammates did not seem to want to feed his hot hand. J.R. made 6-10 from the field, 3-6 on threes, and all but three of those attempts came after the initial minutes of each half, and one of them was a contested desperation triple try in the final 20 seconds. On the further downside, J.R. missed both free throws he took, and defensively he lost Ersan Ilyasova a few times, getting torched for a game low -15 differential.
Reach Out I’ll Be There
After the initial J.R. points explosion, the Cavs needed their go to guy early, especially after Detroit launched their own barrage with Jackson and Ilyasova providing the firepower. LeBron responded in kind, reassuring his team that he would be there for them in their time of need. Once LBJ nailed his first triple, it was clear from the look in his eye that he was going to provide some long distance support for his guys. He would go on to dial up four of his first five from beyond the arc, with the only miss weirdly being an airball. And, he wasn’t just calling it in, as he also came knocking with a series of drives and finishes at the rim over, around and through Marcus Morris and Andre Drummond. It seemed like all the Cavs had to do was call LeBron’s name, and he was there with a score, to the tune of 23 points in the first half alone on an incredibly efficient 8-13 shooting.
The second half, though, was a much different refrain. After getting his first shot blocked by Drummond, Bron seemed content with trying to orchestrate things so his running mates could get theirs. At first, this played well, as the Cavs shot out to a 13 point lead. Once the Pistons started to chip away, LBJ drove for his only basket of the quarter, before getting fooled into fouling Morris on a three that went in and led to a four point play. LeBron went to the bench and the Pistons closed the gap to six. When he returned to start the fourth, he just didn’t seem like his aggressive self, scoring a mere five points in the quarter to finish with a game-high 30. Bron was just 3-8 in the second half, and missed one of the only two free throws he attempted. He snagged six boards, but only wound up with three assists to his pals.
You Can’t Hurry Love
On the flip side of J.R.’s hot start, Kevin Love took a while longer to get going in this game. Though he did hit one early hook shot in the post, his game of give and take with turnovers and some suspect defensive play got him off to a slow first half. The Cavs just had to wait for KLove to get into a flow, which he sort of did towards the end of the half with a seven point burst that included his only triple (he was 1-4 for the game from deep). Then, in the second half, the Cavs got at least a little of what they’d been waiting for, as Kevin made maybe his most aggressive under the hoop play of the season thus far, stripping Andre the giant of a rebound and scoring a hard-nosed bucket…
Love also had a decent fourth quarter, scoring almost half of the Cavs’ total for the quarter with eight points (19 total for the game). Yet, he only wound up with nine boards (two below his average), had trouble boxing out Drummond (five offensive boards, 18 total), turned the ball over four times to even out his four assists, and (the above vine notwithstanding) often looked a little soft on the defensive end.
I Can’t Get Next To You
It’s no secret that Mo Williams is deficient at defense. Some games it’s not quite as obvious… but last night wasn’t one of those games. Seemingly every one of the 29 minutes Mo was on the floor, the Pistons were running their offense directly at him through Reggie Jackson penetration and open jumpers off of screens that Mo could neither run through or under fast enough. Our own Nate Smith probably summed Mo’s defensive struggles up best with this Tweet…
Mo Williams couldn't guard Reggie Jackson the baseball player, and he's 69 years old.
— HoopsDogg (@oldseaminer) November 18, 2015
Conversely, Mo Gotti’s offense usually covers most, if not all of the glaring blemishes to even things out over the course of a game, and he did hit 6-13 from the floor for 15 points with seven assists. However, most of the makes were of the mid-range, transition variety, as he was a cold shooting 2-8 from downtown (0-3 in the crunch time minutes he played with a missed free throw).
What’s Goin’ On?
I find I ask this question more and more with regard to Timofey Mozgov. I don’t know if it’s the knee, or his hands or his head, but he’s just a tall pale shadow of last year’s Moz-erati model. Occasionally, he’ll sprint full steam down the lane for a throwdown, but that’s the only time he seems as engaged in the game going on around him. Whatever is happening, I’m hopeful he starts to figure it out soon, as the Cavs will need a locked in Mozilla for when the games start to really matter in the spring and summer months.
You Keep Me Hangin’ On
It’s been a while since we’ve seen the collective might of the Space Stars off of the bench, and, as long as Coach Blatt continues to keep the rotation short, their usage rate likely won’t allow them to shine nearly as brightly. Nobody had a particularly stellar or standout night from the bench bunch, but they did find ways to hang on and contribute where they could. R.J. didn’t score at all on a night when the Cavs could have used a few buckets from him, yet he was still +8 during his 16 minutes on the court and brought a bit of defensive intensity. Delly had a rough night shooting (1-6 and 0-4 from three), but he did dish out five dimes, including two Loaded Wombat lobs to TT, and at least kept the Piston guards in front of him on defense. Tristan was able to hang with Drummond to a degree, and still posted nine boards in 21 minutes, but he had trouble scoring beyond the dunks from Delly dishes.
It’s The Same Old Song
For all of LeBron’s criticism following Saturday’s game against the Bucks, about how the Cavs aren’t a good team at the moment, and how they need to clean up their act, things sure didn’t seem to change that much last night. The same issues that had plagued the Cavs in their previous loss (and to some degree even in their wins lately) got put on repeat against the Pistons. A general lack of focus permeated from the outset, as the Cavs turned the ball over five times in the first quarter. The starting five were responsible for 12 of the 14 total turnovers for the game, leading to 18 Piston points. The Cavs also struggled to keep Detroit (particularly Drummond) off of the glass, losing the board battle 48-40, and the points in the paint by the same margin. They did manage to share the ball better than in the Bucks game, although 19 of their 21 total came prior to the fourth quarter when the ball stuck and the offense stagnated. And the free throws… yeah, the free throws have become a big enough issue that they warrant their own separate section…
Brick House
Contrary to what the song says, the only thing “mighty” about the house the Cavs are building with their bricked trips to the charity stripe is the increasing futility of the endeavor. Their 12-20 represented a slight uptick from the 58% they shot against the Knicks on Friday, but a regression from the 63% against the Bucks. Overall, they’ve combined to miss 31 free throws in the last three games. In fact, it’s so bad, that it seems to be spreading to the guys who usually make most of their throws like Mo and Timo and even James Jones (who missed two of the three FTs awarded for his banana-in-the-tailpipe stunt on Drummond). Just like in the Bucks game, the missed free throws not only killed the Cavs’ offensive momentum, but also helped allow the Pistons back into the game in the third. As we’ve seen, missed free throws will really come back to haunt the Cavs in games against better quality teams.
Cleveland came into the Pistons game 29th in the league in FT pct at 69.4 pct. They're worse tonight – 10-for-18 (55.6 pct)
— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) November 18, 2015
And, while we’re on the subject of sending guys to the line for free opportunities, isn’t it extremely ironic that while the Cavs were struggling once again to make theirs, the 40% FT shooter, Andre Drummond coolly hit 4-5 down the stretch after being fouled intentionally? I loathe the current hack-a-pocalypse anyway, but this just seemed like tempting fate on David Blatt’s part in this instance. And, it wound up backfiring from a momentum standpoint…
“That probably ended up helping us a lot,” Pistons coach Stan Van Gundy said. “They ended up giving us some points when we didn’t have to do anything except go to the line and he made them.”
Ain’t No Mountain High Enough
Andre Drummond is a beast no matter who he plays against. The Giant was averaging 18.5 points and 19.0 rebounds per game coming into this contest, and he did nothing to diminish those numbers. The Cavs probably need a healthy Moz, a locked in KLove and a postseason form TT to fully counteract Drummond. Maybe even a few minutes of Andy getting under Andre’s skin might have helped on a night like this. I hate playing the “what might have been” game… but choosing the Giant over St. Weirdo in 2012 might well have changed the course of Chris Grant’s career.
Nowhere To Run
One other aspect of this game that bothered me was the fact that the Pistons outran and outhustled the Cavs for the most part. Detroit held the points off the fastbreak edge 16-10, as Jackson and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope zoomed the length of the court like Olympic sprinters. They seemingly pushed the pace much more frequently than the Cavs did. Also, I counted no less than four instances where a Piston player jumped or dove out of bounds to save a possession. If the Cavs had such a hustle play, I don’t remember it.
I Want You Back
This was one of those games where I pined longingly to have Kyrie and Shump back in action. Nothing against Mo, J.R. and Delly, but all three are so much better suited as part of a guard rotation coming off the bench. Kyrie’s ball-handling and shooting would have kept Jackson working hard on defense, and Shump would have been key in helping to shut down Jackson, KCP and even Ilyasova from the perimeter. January can’t get here fast enough.
I Second That Emotion
LeBron again had some harsh words of criticism for his teammates after letting a 13 point lead slip away to a Pistons team that brought some toughness and intensity…
“We are too relaxed and too nice,” James said. “We need to get tougher, but I’m not talking about being an iron man. You have to be mentally tough, and that means performing at the best of your abilities at all times. We’ve got some guys who do that all the time, and some guys who don’t.”
According to reports, David Blatt left the Palace at Auburn Hills just as annoyed as LeBron about how soft the Cavs are right now.
“We need to toughen up,” Blatt said. “I didn’t think we displayed the kind of toughness that made us a team last year. I didn’t see that the last two games and we need to toughen up. Every aspect.”
Blatt is right on this point, and it’s easy to see why he’s frustrated. It’s hard to coach an intangible like toughness. A player either chooses to focus and toughen up mentally and physically with his style of play, or he doesn’t. Wonder if Blatt, being the players’ coach that he is, would ever resort to sitting guys when they coast.
Uptight (Everything’s Alright)
There’s no doubt in my mind that this particular loss, because of the sustained issues the Cavs are experiencing right now, and the fact that it was a second consecutive loss to a Central Division foe, will spark the newest round of Cavs scrutiny from the media at large. There will be questions about defense, about Kevin Love’s role in the offense, about LeBron’s frustration and recent run of monster minutes… even questions about Blatt’s questionable use of hack-a-Drummond. And, to a degree, it does all matter. But, bear in mind that these are still early days; that this was yet another game on the road against an improved team; and that (aside from the white hot Warriors) every contending team is going through similar bumps in the road. The defense, focus and toughness will undoubtedly improve over time. The only truly sour note that concerns me is the free throw shooting which must be corrected… and soon.
Up next, the Cavs get another crack at the young Bucks from Milwaukee. Looking forward to hopefully seeing the wine & gold toughen up and deliver a few greatest hits of their own on Thursday.
Awesome recap EG. So creative. You Can’t Hurry Love is such a great tune.
Thanks Tom! It took a while, but it was fun to do…
Maybe LeBron should STFU until he starts hitting his free throws.
He was 4-5 on FT’s last night. What are you talking about?
It’s really weird how there is a subset of Cavs fans who hate everything LeBron does and it’s never good enough for them. Meanwhile the Cavs have been garbage outside of when LeBron has been on the team. It’s very strange. Like they loved losing so much and drafting top 10 every year that they complain no matter what LeBron does.
I get your point, but unless you were only a Cavs fan from 1998 on, you know that they weren’t “garbage.” They were a competitive team for a decade from 1986-1997, and had a three year span in the mid-late 70s as well. If you’re just talking about the last decade and a half, then specify that…
Of course. The Mark Price teams were exceptional and if Danny Ferry didn’t begin his wreck the Cavs as much as possible stage of his career they might have won the title. I’m talking 1998 on.
Thanks for clarifying… I think for some people, nothing will ever be good enough until LeBron delivers a title. That’s probably an unfair way of looking at it, but just how some people are…
Look for the Cavs to come out with a vengeance on Thursday vs Milwaukee.
Yeah, well, eight teams passed on Drummond in 2012. He was a fairly clueless oaf coming out of college. Make that a gargantuan and mobile clueless oaf. I know that people liked him, but he went where he should have. We talk about all the busts coming in the first 10 picks. Anthony Bennett’s game was 10x more refined than Drummond’s coming out of college. Yeah, he had a huge upside (as we all see now), but he had as big a bust potential as anybody in the last several years. Even now, he is a big body that nobody… Read more »
Of course it is, which is why I said I hate playing that game… but as someone a lot smarter than me once said… you can’t coach tall… and big men develop slowly, but barring injury, most seem to develop into at least serviceable pieces…
Jason Lloyd had some good observations on Drummond in his recap as well… check out points 17-29…
https://twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/status/666866355216318464
I disagree with blanket statements about big men. Ryan Hollins & Semi Erden have size. Half the Cavs faithful wanted Alex Len when he came out – using that same logic. They’re probably the same guys that wanted Drummond.
Ryan Hollins was and Alex Len is still a semi-useful piece… Erden not so much, but I think it gets somewhat tougher to project Euro bigs…
I wasn’t a fan of Len’s game, but I did like both Barnes and Drummond over Dion in 2012…
Did you notice “I just can’t help myself to swipe at Dion 1 more time” remarks? LoL Dion really got under Lloyd’s skin. I read a lot of his articles and he was never a fan & he made it known. He claimed Dion was traded solely because of his attitude. Never mind he was the only asset at the time to get a 1st rd pick for a trade for Mosgov. Water under the bridge. But other than that, Lloyd always writes a great recap of the games. I don’t care for Plain Dealer ‘s Kabot when she does… Read more »
Or, in this case Waiters under the bridge… Agree about Lloyd though. He’s my go to read on recaps outside of this blog…
I’ll tell you this much: don’t waste draft picks on undersized power forwards with low basketball iq who play in weak conferences and have a myriad of health Problems.
Especially when their names rhyme with Samthony Kennet.
Don’t draft running backs or Quarterbacks from the Big12 either!
Revenge game #1 this Thursday!!!!!!!
I want to see a Mr. Blonde of Reservoir Dogs type of beat down. The Bucks will leave without their ears.
“Stuck in the middle with you” great recap Evil to a lousy game. Thanks now I have all kinds of music in my head.
Motown music is some of the catchiest music in the world…
Also, McHale? What in the heck?
I knew Houston was not a cohesive unit. That group of players is a bunch of clowns, They can’t come together, they’re just stat stuffers. Clippers are the same.
No dilly dallying. As much as Lebron is talking, and as much as he has the right to do so, the getting to down to business needs to start with him, and he hasn’t brought much in the first three quarters since the first week of the season.
Unfortunately, K-Love and TT who are being paid through the roof to help Lebron lead look clueless when Lebron doesn’t have his foot down.
Sucks to lose to division rivals but I’m hoping Leb’s comments help fuel the brimstone/fire the players all talked about preseason. One of my favorite things to hear after the game, though, are Blatt’s comments. He seems pissed at the team. Did he ever seem pissed off last season? He’d bristle when people brought up the “rookie coach” thing but I don’t ever remember him getting mad at the team/players or calling them out like he did last night. It’s a great sign. Blatt now has expectations in place after last year’s Finals trip so he’s allowed to get angry… Read more »
Who’s idea was it for Kevin Love’s physique to become that of a gazelle? Why has he become so lean? He needs mass to bang with opposing front courts down low. Love and Mozzy are too soft right now down low. They need to be able to lay some lumber on opposing front courts.
Mentally, the Cavs just aren’t there with execution. They need to be sharper mentally.
I really think alot of these NBA players loose weight more about back issues than anything. Love had alot of back spasms last year as does Lebron suffers from that.
The bench was awful. We need Irving and Shump back so Mo can be a backup PG and Shump can be our defensive guy.
Keep on grindin’ Cols…
Man that was such a letdown. I still say the hack a Drummond is the main reason we lost that lead. We were up 4 why we chose to use that tactic is beyond me..
It didn’t work out that’s for sure. It wasn’t the main reason Cavs lost though. They should have never needed to resort to that.
With you on this Nikpre… as I mentioned, I loathe the tactic anyway. As LBJ said himself, he’d rather they’d just get stops. I don’t know if it was the main reason they lost the lead, but it certainly contributed…
I had always thought Shump was going to be the one we would miss more because of his defense. Of course we miss Kyrie but we are really seeing Shump’s defensive value in games like this. Too many time Emu (that’s my nickname for him) was completely isolated on an island draining 3’s . The guy is good & I wondered why didn’t the Cavs guard him like they did Kover in EC Finals. Ah That was Shump wasn’t it? Cavs letting Jackson have a wide express lane to the basket was ridiculous. There is a glaring communication breakdown with… Read more »
Great recap EG. TV3: Agree with all your points…well said. Value of Shump, issues with Love, Moz, etc.
Still we could be 11-0 wiith a few more breaks and a few less bricks at the line.
@WojYahooNBA: The Houston Rockets fired coach Kevin McHale, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Smart move before the season gets out of hand.
WHOA THAT IS WOJO BOMB! Rockets problems have to do with the Kardashian curse and an unreliable Howard.
Ty Lawson ——>>> coach killer!!!!
Who’s coach gonna save them tho? Even Thibs won’t be able to take how awful Lawson and Harden on defense. And he’s going to grind down even more fragile bodies like Dwight..
Unless they get their defensive act together, it won’t matter who they bring in. They are stinking it up, and Harden is the king turd.
The starters played well and ended up with good numbers (except Mozzie). But the bench was putrid. We really missed Shumpert this game.
Oh well, on to the next one. We’ve lost 3 games by a total of 10 points.
Except Mo couldn’t stop anyone on defense.
We missed Shump. Could’ve used him in the 4th quarter to shut down Jackson.
Disagree that the starters played well… even you, a fan of only offense, have to admit that the starting back court were like bullfighters waving red capes last night… I recognize that Mo has never been much more than a turnstyle on defense, but neither he nor JR played anything resembling NBA level defense last night…
Offensive stats are only half the game Cols…
Am I the only one who thinks that Lebron should keep this stuff in-house at this stage of the season? If you asked me if I’d take 8-3 out of the gate before the season I’d have taken it for sure.
Nah. LeBron has plenty of experience getting teams motivated and through the playoffs. I think he’s earned the benefit of the doubt on this stuff.
Lebron’s passive-aggressiveness is his worst character trait. Show me other great leaders who called out their teammates in the media. Call them out at practice.
Why does it matter what other leaders do? A few points here
1. Twitter is a recent invention, so other people had less ability to make comments known
2. I’m not combing through former players and newspapaers to see what they said
3. LeBron has been a great leader for quite a while. 5 straight Finals appearances. I’ll take him knowing what he’s doing. Since he’s proven that he knows what he’s doing.
8-3 is nice in a vacuum but the Cavs should be 11-0 because they’ve been the better team in all 11 games. To me, it’s especially important when the Warriors are showing us up in the W-L standings — I’m glad Leb mentioned that team playing hungrier, I would hope that serves as the best motivation of all.
Let’s see the Warriors do that without Curry and Igoudala. Which is the equivalent of us losing Irving and Shump.
I mean, give me a break. NBA teams are going to lose some games. This is one we shouldn’t have lost but I don’t think we need to compare them with the fully operational GSW who are going for 70 wins.
To me it doesn’t matter how healthy or injured teams around the league are, I know what the Cavs can do even with all our injuries and I still view the Cavs as the better team on the court against all but a short list of teams, I will be comparing the Cavs to the Warriors all season because that’s the team that took us out and for all we know we could have the exact same injuries this year and will have to field a hobbled team in the Finals once again. All championships are not created equal —… Read more »
I mean, if we face them in the Finals with one of Kyrie or Love we will win. I don’t know why obsessing over how the Warriors are doing makes any sense.
And yes, all titles are equal. You will not be any happier or sadder if the Cavs win 42 games plus a title or 79 games plus a title. It doesn’t matter. All that matters is the championship.
We have Love right now and still don’t look better than the Warrior, though. That’s my point — if we faced them in the Finals tomorrow we’d be heavy underdogs. The Warriors look far-and-away like the best team in the league and seem to have the best shot at coming out the West — of course I’m gonna continue measuring this Cavs team to theirs. No, all titles are NOT created equal. I will infinitely happier if my Cavs win 82 games and a title and go down as the unquestioned greatest team in NBA history. That would be awesome.… Read more »
While it’s true that some championship teams are far more impressive than others as you say, your personal level of satisfaction when the buzzer sounds and LeBron holds his FINALS MVP trophy and Cleveland throws a huge party will not be any different if they won 40 or 79 games in the regular season. There will be no happier feeling than that title.
It’s hard to say you’re wrong when I’ve never experienced that feeling before. But I know that last playoffs I rooted more and more ravenously after each injury to Love then Kyrie. I realized that we became bigger underdogs, and HAD LeBron pulled it off in the Finals, it would have been arguably the greatest individual performance in NBA history, vaulting him into the MJ stratosphere. I relish that underdog mentality and to me the more doubters proved wrong in a W, the sweeter. (I think ultimately we both agree that winning a title wouldn’t be half bad, though, no?)
LeBron seems to be obsessing over how the Warriors are doing… he constantly brought them up as a yardstick in his comments last night after the game…
They are missing their coach. They also lost Alvin Gentry to another team. And currently being coached by a former herculoid. Think about that. Fully operational? Not really. Greatly improved? Definitely.
Sigh. Whatever. Then go root for them. The Cavs should’ve won last night, no doubt about it. But overall and long term this team is fine.
Why would I root for them??
If there’s no doubt we should’ve won last game then why didn’t we?
Why didn’t we win? The number one reason is it’s sports and things happen
The number two reason is our bench was awful
The number three reason is we missed some free throws.
The bad thing is we lost
The good thing is that none of the reasons we lost mean anything bad going forward.
Except the free throws… that will be a real problem if they can’t clean it up…
Yep. It’s sports. It’s part of reality too. You know where real things happen.
Also.. In terms of going forward.
You mean Kevin Love not making much of an impact on offense might not be good for us moving forward??
Kevin Love’s name will not win us the title. Kevin Love’s game will. Isn’t it his game the reason you already have us winning it all already? Are you living in reality with what we’re seeing with him so far?
I don’t think he said something wrong. IMO he’s saying all the right things a leader should so far..
IF IT IS ANY CONSOLATION ATLANTA LOST TO BROOKLYN AND MIAMI LOST TO TIMBERWOLVES LAST NIGHT —–APRIL IS A LONG WAYS OFF ——WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BLOWOUT THIS THURS AGAINST THE BUCKS —NEED TO GET THAT GOOD FEELING BACK IN US !!
VERY ENJOYABLE EVIL ( THE ARTICLE / NOT THE GAME —ALSO PER YOUR SUGGGESTION I HAVE EASED OFF THE XMAS ALES AND CALMED DOWN )——-SAID IN A BLOG BEFORE THE GAME / PISTONS ( AS ALL EASTERN DIV .—HELLL EVERY TEAM ) IS GOING TO GIVE US THEIR BEST SHOT / THIS IS HOW THEY ARE GOING TO GAGE WHERE THEIR TEAM IS —–AND WE NEED TORESPOND IN ORDER FOR THESE TEAMS NOT TO GAIN ANY CONFIDENCE AGAINST US — WILL THE REAL MOZ PLEASE SURFACE SOON —-WE ARE IN TROUBLE IF HE DOESN’T PERFORM TO LAST YEARS STANDARDS LEBRON’S… Read more »
Glad to hear it, NOMAD… don’t want to peak too soon on the Christmas Ale… ;)
Up 70-57, this is where having Kyrie and Shump available would have helped. No reason to panic but they definitely need to get the FT thing figured out.
I had the game on Gamecast so I didn’t catch why Moz was taking a final shot to win the game. A jumper at that. Can anyone break the sequence down?
Don’t think it was the drawn up play, but Moz did have a pretty open look at a shot that he knocks down with regularity…
I consider this back-to-back losses the first hurdle of our season. How do we bounce back on this is crucial to what we will be the mental makeup of the team come January or February. I know we’re fine. We’re gonna be ok. I’m not panicking. But until we hoisted that trophy we haven’t proven anything. I’m not going to point this loss to Kevin Love or the coaching for that matter. But 11 games in (+1 whole season), even w/o two starters, it’s still a question to me how do the team incorporate Kevin Love FULLY to the offense… Read more »
This game is on the bench. Love was pretty good all game and ended up with good numbers. So did LeBron, JR, and MO. The bench was terrible. But whatever. No real problems here, just should’ve won this game.
Agree with Cols. Most embarrassing is only 2 pts scored in the second half.
Lol dude. Read my post again. Never did I say that the game is on Kev. Never. What I’m pissed off is the overall play of his up to this point. Actually it culminated to me the last game against the Bucks. And no don’t tell me it’s still early in the season. Because.. 1. We invested 100m 2. The whole team committed on involving him more. And clearly there’s still no plays set for him. NONE. Ok except for the first few plays against Chicago. SMH.. 3. He is Kevin freakin Love. It the whole team really wants to… Read more »
Dude had 19 points and 9 rebounds. There’s nothing wrong with that stat line at all.
Ask that to yourself. Your the one gloating about how great Kevin Love is. And you’re definitely lying if you can say that he’s CLEARLY the 2nd best player based on what he’s done so far with THIS team THIS year.
Maybe you’re confused because of the timing where I’m saying this. Based on this game he’s good. I’m fine with that fact. But based on his production so far, and the CONTEXT of his play this year is he all star Kevin Love that you, me and everyone expected? Don’t lie..
There was, however, something wrong with the stat line of the dude he covered, Ilyasova… 20 pts., 6 boards in 29 minutes…
I agree with this. LeBron and Blatt are both clearly trying to build good habits now, not later.
Kyrie and Shump are out, Mozgov and Varejao aren’t 100%… This is exactly the time to get Love heavily integrated and I agree that they haven’t done enough with that to this point.
Huh? Mo’s defense was why they lost the game. Pistons ran high pick and roll at him every play for the last 7 minutes. He was powerless. Some of this is on 8latt.should have switched Mo on someone else.
LeBron’s critique is on point. There was no good reason to lose this game. Hopefully the guys will re-focus and step it up.
Moz and Mo both missed absolutely wide open looks down the stretch. Maybe they weren’t mentally ready, expecting LBJ to take everything in the 4th quarter.
Still, the sky is certainly not falling — better days are ahead.
Oh, and if we had drafted Drummond, I wonder if SVG would be the coach of the Cavs, now?
I like what Lebron’s been saying so far this year. No passive aggressive messages.
You’re right on point there!