On (Im)mortality
2015-11-30Yesterday marked the beginning of the end of an era. It was the day that Kobe Bean Bryant (aka The Black Mamba) declared that this season, his 20th, would be his final one. It’s rare to see an athlete play for two full decades in a sport anymore, and rarer still to see one amass the level of accomplishments and accolades that Kobe was able to achieve. From five NBA Championships, to 17 All Star selections, to two gold medals, to passing MJ for third all-time in scoring, Bryant became a legend and a bridge from the Jordan era to LeBron and the other stars of today’s NBA. Yet, for all of his acclaim, there’s always been a darker flip side to Kobe, both on and off the court. He’s seen his share of trouble and controversy, and has never been exactly congenial, with his abrasiveness costing him teammates, help in free agency, potential additional titles, and (most importantly) respect.
As a Cavs fan who’s lived amongst a sea of Kobe fans for almost the entirety of The Mamba’s storied career, I’ve often found myself at ground zero of the inexorable Kobe/LeBron debate. This discourse is of course even harder to quantify than the MJ/Kobe debate given their difference of position, the disparity in their styles of play and their inherent basketball philosophy (LBJ is more of a Magic pass-first mentality while Kobe has removed the word pass from his vocabulary). However, Kobe’s oddly-timed (if not entirely unexpected) announcement of his impending retirement got me thinking about how his basketball mortality will stack up with the King’s when it’s all said and done.
There are a myriad of ways to compare and contrast Kobe and LeBron, but for the sake of this examination, I’ll hit the highlights in four specific categories that encompass some of the more major areas of distinction between the two.
Longevity
In 1996, as an 18 year old rookie, Kobe Bryant played his first NBA game against the Minnesota Timberwolves. Twenty years and 1,279 games later, Kobe opened this season against those same T-Wolves, becoming just the fifth member of the double decade club, joining Robert Parrish (21), Kevin Willis (21), Kevin Garnett (21) and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (20). And, though the announcement of his retirement ends his pursuit of most seasons played, Bryant has still set a new NBA record for seasons spent with a single franchise, eclipsing the 19-season mark set by Utah’s John Stockton. He’s also played 220 postseason games, likely his final total given the Lakers’ current bleak outlook. In all, Kobe has logged over 55,000 minutes combined in his regular and post season career, and will likely end up fifth all time in minutes played.
Though he remained mostly injury-free throughout his early career, the wear and tear finally caught up with Kobe in the last few seasons. The most devastating of them, a torn achilles tendon, was the first to arrive toward the end of the 2012-13 campaign. The Lakers were pushing hard for the final playoff spot in the West, and Kobe was averaging more minutes than nearly anyone else in the NBA (38.6). At the end of a seven game stretch of 40 or more minutes per contest, the achilles finally snapped with four games left in the season. Despite working hard to return to action, just seven months after surgery, Bryant would only play six games in 2013-14 before suffering a fracture in his left knee that cost him the remainder of the season. Then last year, even though he started in terrific shape, Kobe’s season was cut short after just 35 games after he tore his right rotator cuff during a slam dunk. This season, though he’s struggled with a calf injury, Bryant has been able to play in the majority of games for the Lakers, but it remains to be seen if he’ll be able to finish the year healthy.
LeBron, who also started his career as an 18 year old rookie, may not ultimately surpass Kobe in seasons played, but he’s likely to catch him in both regular season (928) and post-season (178) games played. He’s already played more than 36,000 regular season minutes, to go with another 7500 playoff minutes. If he can avoid injury and continue to condition himself properly in the off-season, LBJ should prove to be more durable than Kobe in the latter stages of his career. David Blatt is already making a conscious effort to reduce LeBron’s minutes per game, and even though his 36.5 average isn’t as low as last season’s 36.1, that should change once Kyrie Irving and Iman Shumpert return from their own injuries.
Given his four year layover in Miami, the King would have to play with the Cavs until the ripe old age of 42 to match Kobe’s record for seasons played with one organization. The chances of that happening are slim to none, and, if Bron’s comments earlier this season are any indication, he probably won’t play even as many total seasons as the Mamba. It’s far more likely that LeBron will choose to either go out on top, or at least retire before age and injury remand him to a shell of his once royal self. Though, it seems like he’s got at least another four or five seasons beyond the current one in his future. The ultimate measure of this will undoubtedly be how LeBron continues to adapt his style of play to extend his career. While Kobe’s game was largely predicated on his scoring and ability to get to the rim, LeBron can still be fundamentally productive as a facilitator, while also developing his post game.
In the end, longevity only means something if you can still be effective. Kobe’s game has deteriorated exponentially since his rash of injuries robbed him of his athleticism. It doesn’t seem to be in LeBron’s nature to take a similar path.
Likability
Though nobody arguably worked harder than Kobe in his prime, the phrase “plays well with others” would never apply to the Mamba. His ongoing “this town ain’t big enough for the two of us” feud with Shaquille O’Neal ultimately ended with Shaq getting shipped off to Miami. Some say that it’s Kobe’s high level of commitment and performance tend to alienate his teammates, however, it might just be his notorious selfishness with the ball (he’s missed more FGs than any other player in NBA history).
“Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn’t going his way,” said his former coach, Phil Jackson. “When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns.”
This domination of the ball, while it’s served Kobe well and helped deliver the Lakers five championships during his tenure, has also been a turn off to prospective free agents. In the days before the salary cap exploded, the Lakers were able to trade for pieces to put around Bryant (Pau Gasol) or sign aging vets (Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Steve Nash). The one recent free agent coup they did enjoy (Dwight Howard) was a short-lived failure. The truth is, as attractive as the Los Angeles market is, no star wants to come and share the spotlight with the Mamba. They’d rather wait until he’s slithered off into the sunset. The Lakers’ free agent plays for LeBron, Carmelo Anthony, LaMarcus Aldridge and other big names have all fallen short. Kobe’s announcement at least gives them hope for a shot at Kevin Durant this summer, no matter how minute.
From a fan perspective, Kobe is supremely polarizing. You are either a card-carrying member of the cult of the Mamba, or you can’t stand him and consider him an overrated ball-hog. The Kobe fanbase is one of the more rabid (and most irrational) I’ve encountered. Even through his off-court troubles stemming from a 2003 reported incident in Colorado, most Kobe fans never wavered in their support. To them, he is the greatest player this side of MJ and darn near walks on water.
LeBron, on the other hand, seems to be one of the most well-liked superstars of the NBA. He is the anti-Kobe in many ways with his desire to get other players involved in the action. Sure, he has his bouts of LeISO ball when he takes the scoring mantle on his own shoulders, but he’s just wired differently than Kobe from a pure basketball perspective. He’s probably deferred the final shot just as many times as he’s taken one, a factor that led to scrutiny and criticism early in his career. Though he had trouble recruiting free agents and veteran players in his first stint with the Cavaliers, it had just as much to do with his own non-committal approach to staying in Cleveland, as it did with the appeal of the city and franchise.
LeBron took a lot of heat (pun intended) for his move in 2010, but he was able to convince veteran pieces (Mike Miller, Ray Allen, Chris Andersen) to join him in Miami, and has done the same (Shawn Marion, Richard Jefferson, Mo Williams) in his return to Cleveland. Guys like him and respect him, and most importantly want to play alongside of him because they know LBJ will make them better and elevate their game. Sure, he can be salty too, calling out his teammates when there’s a perceived lack of effort and intensity (like he has already twice this season), however, it’s usually done inclusively and constructively. Unlike Kobe, he’s never made a teammate cry.
Because of his approach to the game and his generally gregarious demeanor, LeBron hasn’t had to rely on just a diehard group of defending fans. The King is universally appealing to Cavs fans and NBA fans alike. It’s not hard to like LeBron, especially now that he’s the personification of the “Prodigal Son.” Even in the dark times, when LBJ put on the proverbial black hat and “took his talents to South Beach,” he still never became quite as unlikeable as the Mamba. Just look at this survey from September of 2010 from Ball Don’t Lie. And therein lies the primary difference between Kobe and LeBron on this front. Kobe never really seemed to care whether people liked him or not, and in fact relished it when people rooted against him. LeBron, on the other hand, seems to have an inherent need to be liked by everyone from his teammates, to his contemporaries, to the masses.
Because of the likability factor, chances are when it’s all said and done, LeBron will most likely be remembered with a greater sense of nostalgia by the average NBA fan.
Statistically
Last season, Kobe passed Michael Jordan to move into third place on the all time NBA scoring list behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Karl Malone. With his retirement at the end of this season, that’s where he’ll stay (for the time being at least). Currently at 32,683, Kobe will likely finish his career somewhere over 33K, well behind the Mailman’s 36,928 and Kareem’s mind-boggling 38,387 (although he is still the Lakers’ all time leading scorer since Kareem split his time in Milwaukee). That still makes him the highest scoring guard in NBA history, a record that should stand until guys like Steph Curry and James Harden have wrinkles and grey in their beards respectively. Kobe is also third in playoff scoring (5,640) behind MJ (5,987) and Kareem (5,762), which also is unlikely to change until others catch up and surpass him. He’s averaged 25.3 ppg over his career, with a career high of 35.4 in 2005-06, while shooting 45% from the floor and 33% from beyond the arc. Even though he’s primarily been a scorer in the league, he’s also averaged a fairly robust 5.3 rpg and 4.8 apg over his career.
Kobe only has one League MVP trophy on his shelf (due to Steve Nash snagging a couple in the mid-2000s), but does have two Finals MVPs. He’s a 17 time All-Star, winning the MVP of that contest a record four times, as well as an 11 time All NBA First Teamer, a nine time NBA All-Defensive First Teamer, a two time NBA scoring champion, and was the winner of the 1997 Slam Dunk Contest.
Until LeBron came along, Kobe was the youngest to pass the scoring milestones of 5K, 10K, 15K, 20K and 25K points. He still holds the record for youngest to 30K (for now anyway). In addition, Kobe owns the second highest scoring night (January 22, 2006) in NBA history with 81 points against the Toronto Raptors, behind only Wilt Chamberlain’s 100 point outburst. However, he does own the dubious distinction of most field goals missed in a game with 30.
No matter how much Kobe scores though, he can’t seem to escape the King. LeBron now owns the scoring milestones the Mamba once did, and seems destined to surpass not only his youngest to 30K record, but should also eclipse Kobe’s final tally and stake claim to youngest to 35K. LBJ currently sits in 18th place on the all time scoring list at 25,349, having just passed both Jerry West and Reggie Miller. He should pass Alex English (25,613) by Christmas, and then blow by active but aging players like Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan. Given his typical seasonal scoring output, LeBron has an outside shot of cracking the top 10 by the end of the year and passing Hakeem Olajuwon (26,946). It’s doubtful that LBJ winds up passing Kareem for the number one spot, but barring unforeseen events, it’s hard to imagine him not surpassing Kobe for top three, and possibly even the Mailman. He’s averaged 27.3 ppg during his career, with a high of 31.4 in 2005-06 (ironically the same high mark year as Kobe), while shooting 49% from the floor and 34% from beyond the arc.
Yet, as we all know, scoring isn’t LeBron’s only passion. Just last week, he became only the second player in NBA history to crack the top 25 in both scoring and assists (6,413). He’s averaged 6.9 apg and 7.1 rpg so far in his career, and though it’s unlikely he’ll make the top 25 all time in rebounds, he should wind up as the only NBA player in history in the top ten in scoring and assists.
When it comes to MVPs, LeBron dominates Kobe 4-1, and he matches the Mamba in Finals MVPs with two of his own. He’s an 11 time All Star (soon to be 12), a two time All Star MVP, a nine time All NBA First Teamer, a five time NBA All-Defensive First Teamer, an NBA scoring champion (2008), and NBA Rookie of the Year (2004). He did not win the Slam Dunk Contest… because he’s never entered it.
Statistically speaking, though Kobe currently leads in doing what he does best (scoring), he probably will be eclipsed by LeBron when it’s all over. Moreover, LeBron has a much more well-rounded game, filling the stat sheets with assists and rebounds, while also playing high level defense. The most telling stat is LBJ’s career triple-double edge over Bryant, 37-19.
Legacy
And so, it comes down finally to the primary argument that Kobe fans use as “definitive proof” of why the Mamba is greater than the King… rings.
Kobe will finish his career with a fistful of five championship rings (in seven tries), while LeBron still has some ground to make up with a running total of two (in six cracks at it). The bad news for Kobe is that his championship window to try and catch MJ with six slammed shut when his achilles snapped three years ago. The good news for LeBron is that he’s still got four to five prime years left with a top-notch supporting cast to try and catch Kobe.
Looking at it more closely though, will show you that Kobe was arguably the second best player on his team for the first three titles he won with the Lakers. The combination of his talents with the greatest Center in the game at the time, Shaq, was enough to overcome the Reggie Miller Pacers, Allen Iverson Sixers and Jason Kidd Nets. Only for the final two, when he was paired with another star big man in Pau Gasol, was Kobe the best and most dominant player on the floor.
For LeBron, two of his Finals losses came as the single dominant player for the Cavs, first in 2007 and then last season with the injuries to Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. Granted, his two titles came with the help of two other All-Stars in Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh, but he was still arguably the most dominant player on the floor for the Heat in winning those championships. Kobe has never taken a team on his back to the Finals, because he ultimately required more help than Lebron does.
This fundamentally comes down to the quality of leadership displayed by these two legendary players. Kobe has become a leader through the hard work and dedication to his craft he has shown during his 20 year career. He is ball dominant, unafraid to take any shot and demands high levels of excellence on both ends of the floor. Yet, his leadership is predicated on his ability to hit shots and make plays for himself, which leads to the (not incorrect) perception that he is a selfish player. Even now, in the twilight of his career, he is still leading the Lakers in shots attempted (17 per game) and is second in minutes played (31.1), while shooting a rim-wrecking 30% (20% from three) and averaging a career low 15.5 ppg. He is not leading the young Lakers by example, but instead giving them license to stand around or jack up their own shots with abandon. As a result, the Lakers are an embarrassing 2-14, and are years away from being a playoff team, let alone a championship contender.
Meanwhile, LeBron continues to employ a strategy of getting others involved by being the prime facilitator of the offense. His scoring average is up slightly from last season, and he continues to rebound and distribute the ball at the same prolific rate as he has in the past. The revelation so far this year has been more reliance on a team concept of moving the basketball, and less so on LeISO ball. Yes, there are still stretches of it, particularly in crunch time, but LeBron knows the value of having multiple threats on the court offensively. He also understands that in today’s NBA, you have to be able to turn up the defensive intensity if you want to win championships. He has stressed this already twice this season, calling his team out for their softness and lack of focus, but still including himself in the conversation as part of the problem. He continues to be a coach on the floor, working with and cajoling younger guys to improve their game and elevate their play. And, he has earned the respect of the veterans (like James Jones and Richard Jefferson) who help to echo his messages in the locker room.
Championships are important to legacy, and they count as strong currency when discussing the best players in NBA history. Undoubtedly, LeBron will have to win at least one more title to cement his own legacy as one of the greatest of all time. But, returning to the place he calls home to bring a title to a title-starved fanbase would go a heck of a long way in doing just that.
Final Thought
On some level, it’s sad to think about this being Kobe Bryant’s final season. For several years, he was the predominant face of the sport, and he will go down as one of the greatest Lakers ever, and one of the greatest NBA players of all time. Yet, given the ignominious ending of his career, it seems like he’s already been gone for a while. In some ways, he’s become sort of the Brett Favre of the NBA… holding on to past glory for much too long. At least he didn’t team jump or retire and come back like Brett or even MJ did (well… at least not yet). Still, his giant “lifetime achievement” paycheck from the Lakers wound up being a sizable albatross around L.A.’s neck, and probably set back their rebuilding plan a half-decade.
All that said, I’ll probably still miss the Mamba… at least for a little while. And, even though I don’t sympathize with Kobe fans right now, I probably will whenever the King decides to hang it up… hopefully not anytime soon.
Nate Duncan and Seth Partnow actually discussed Bryant’s place amongst the all timers on Duncan’s podcast, and both seemed to agree that he’s a top 15 or top 20 rather than a top 10 type player. That has always been my thinking, too, much as I dislike that kind of barstool ranking of players. (perhaps I dislike that type of jabber because I have read/ listened to Bill Simmons do just that for far too many years)
That is still quite good, but probably seems very low for younger fans who have grown up watching him play.
“Kobe only has one League MVP trophy on his shelf (due to Steve Nash snagging a couple in the mid-2000s)”
Strange Cavs the blog doesn’t know that LeBron had more MVP shares than Kobe in 2005 and 2006 (Dirk also).
Kobe’s best MVP ranking outside of 2008 and 2009 was 3rd – so Nash didn’t snag anything from him.
Fair enough, although Kobe had the second most first place votes in 2005-06 after Nash…
I’ll admit to using my own selective memory from those years. It just seemed like Kobe should have won given the season he had that year…
I not a fan of Kobe, but anyone will agree he is one of the best players of his generation. One might question why he is getting to minutes now that he cannot play anymore. I guess the excuse is that the team will not win anyway and most fans want to see him fire away.
New article up about LeBron. Not to be missed:
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/12/01/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-kobe-bryant-stephen-curry-dwyane-wade
This deserves a full CtB post, for sure, and really a round-table podcast.
Finals pitting LeBron and the Cavs vs. Warriors is going to be like nothing since 80s Celtics-Lakers.
Spectacular article… Lee Jenkins is fast becoming one of my favorite writers.
Too many good nuggets to pick out one or two. Interesting quotes from LeBron, Griffin, Love, JFJ.
Not sure if anyone agrees or knows much about Dragonball Z, but I’ve always thought there was a perfect comparison to be made for LeBron and Kobe: Goku and Vegeta.
It works really well on so many levels. Think about it.
I know nothing about Dragonball Z and the fact that it probably does work so well on so many levels says something about the narratives we create for players and how we push actual, well-rounded people to fit our pre-established archetypes. I think Kobe wants to be liked just as much as anybody and kinda had to adjust his persona to accept that it was the best way to get people to celebrate his performances. Even LeBron turned heel in reaction to fans turning against him. Then he went back to being his affable self. So to sum up, I… Read more »
tl;dr – INTERTEXTUALITY!!!!
This was a great, introspective piece, EG. Kobe will be remembered as arguably the best player of an entire NBA era (late 90’s – 2000s) and absolutely one of the all-time greats. More than anything I’ll miss the old school mentality he brings to the game — the trash talking, the pride, the competitiveness… Once Kobe, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce are all retired, the league will have really transitioned to the new generation of Millennial players. That’s sad to me cuz I love those old school guys. I did want to point out, though, that I thought the “Likability”… Read more »
I try pretty hard to avoid the comments section of ESPN articles for that very reason. They are typically populated with the worst scumbags on the internet, and I’m sure you can find irrational hate spewed about every player. LeBron probably gets more because he’s the most visible or identifiable. I thought long and hard about that, but I’ve run into so many fans of LeBron outside of Cleveland over the years, even ones who stayed fans regardless of where he played. And I guess the more important takeaway I wanted to have from that section was that LeBron, more… Read more »
Going to Cavs games in Boston I’ve met quite a few LeBron fans who are not really Cavs fans. It’s not just the Wine & Gold glasses. The guy is a true superstar with fans around the world. Coming back to Cleveland diffused the main gripe about him.
One example of “wide-spread” support for Lebron was the standing ovation he got in Philadelphia. Very rare for them to show such appreciation to a foe.
I loved the article until that last part. Kobe has not set them back a half a decade. He is out at the end of this year, they get another top pick, AND free agents will be lining up to be the top dog in the biggest and best NBA market in the country. There is too much sunshine, cash, women, and history on there side to be bad for more than a year. They need some home grown talent to couple with a prized free agent or two. All of which they will get next year. The rest of… Read more »
He’s already set them back two or three years with his contract and injuries, so a half decade would only technically be two or three more years. Also, name me a big name free agent this coming summer that you think will go to L.A. Their best shot is probably waiting for former UCLA star Russell Westbrook. Also, it’s not like Jim Buss and Mitch have proven themselves to be all that competent at drafting players. I’ve been to a few games and am really not impressed with Randle or Russell. With the salary cap explosion, it’s no longer all… Read more »
Ug Jazz closed that game like they were a college team. Could have easily won with any semblance of control. Makes me realize how much we take LBJ for granted.
Also watching Draymond Green pound his chest and scream after a soft tip-in as if he had just dunked over Dwight Howard made me barf in my mouth a little.
Just shows you how good the Warriors are. They can play crappy, and still win. (and still be undefeated) I dislike them immensely, but they are being taken for granted. Like it’s easy to be undefeated at this point of the season. (and having few even remotely close games)
Draymond Green has 0 redeeming qualities.
The Browns are absolutely brilliant at losing. Its actually pretty funny once you stop caring.
I lost in an airport bar in Vegas. It’s hilarious. They are Charlie Brown.
DOUBLE THUMBS UP EVIL —–AS A SPORTS FAN IN HIS 60’S I THINK WHENEVER AN ATHLETE THE STATURE OF KOBE RETIRES IT TENDS TO TAKE ME IN A “TIME MACHINE ” OF PAST FAMOUS ATHLETES THAT HAVE RETIRED AND YOU ANALYZE WHAT THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS WERE / AND HOW THEY IMPACTED THEIR SPORT —GOOD OR BAD KOBE HAS IMPACTED THE SPORT AND HAS LEFT HIS MARK FOR PLAYERS TO CHASE AFTER —–.. WAS GLAD TO HEAR / READ IN ONE OF KOBE’S COMMENTS THAT KYRIE IS ONE OF THE ” YOUNG GUNS ” HE HAS DECIDED TO MENTOR (PASS THE TORCH… Read more »
Thanks guys! Appreciate the comments! Was going to write something about Kobe and LeBron closer to when the Cavs and Lakers play, but Kobe’s announcement gave me an excuse to write it early. If you couldn’t tell by the piece, my irritation over the years has been much more with Kobe fans than the man himself. It’s amazing how much different things would have turned out though if he had just decided to retire after the achilles injury. I would never begrudge anyone from signing a big contract that’s offered, but the events of these last few years will certainly… Read more »
Good writeup, EG. I never much cared for him, and especially his all too obvious act of imitating Jordan, right down to his physical mannerisms, but he always worked hard and played hard. If every talented player worked as hard as Bryant, we’d have a lot more great basketball players, and less Lance Stephensons et al. Definitely happy I’ve never had to root for him during his career.
Terrific write-up, EG. I think a very fair depiction of the plusses and minuses of KB. Sure more plusses over his stellar career.
Thanks EG. I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up being the best analysis of Kobe’s career to be written . . . until a book comes out.
Brilliant work EG. Must say this overlaps with a conversation i had with a colleague recently. He was critical of a movie I want to see soon (Victor Frankenstein). I told him i was anticipating it because of the cast and a perspective i didnt consider. even as an admitted fanboy. He was critical saying that it was too long and that colored his appreciation. for me that seems a bit harsh. kind of like the people being overly critical of kobe for personality reasons or he should have hung it up long ago. not to appreciate somebodys work and… Read more »
I’ll be interested to see what you think of Victor Frankenstein when you go and see it, Matt…
fortunately the dude didnt give away any unique features. nor did he bias me because “it ran long”.
Awesome article EG. I’ve rooted against Kobe for years, but I’m kind of gonna miss him. Not sure what he the chapter is for him. Gaked out Lakers fans think he’ll be a coach, but I can’t see that working out very well. He’s as articulate as an athlete can be, perhaps he’ll be on the broadcast side.
He was asked that in his NBATV interview if he would consider coaching. His response : Roaring laughter and a loud, “Helllll No” “I don’t have the patience “
It would be a mess. I assume the reason that many great players are terrible at coaching is that they expect players to be what they were. Maybe he does the Magic thing and balances business interests and broadcasting.
I always thought great players made terrible coaches because they don’t understand how other players can’t play at the same level they did. I remember hearing a story about Tony Gwinn coaching at San Diego State. Some kid was struggling at placing the ball during batting practice and he told him, “Just hit it straight down the left foul line”. The kid failed a few more times, and Tony continued to plead with him, “Just hit it down the foul line”. The kid was like, “This isn’t as easy as it looks!”. So Tony came up to the plate, grabbed… Read more »
Just look at Luke Walton… his team is 19-0… ;)
Great piece EG. Can’t wait for the final showdown between Lebron and Kobe on March 10th. I’ll be there! Hopefully Kobe will be too.
If anyone hasn’t seen it yet; Kobe: The Interview by NBATV is very good. You get a good look on how he thinks and views the game. One part that stands out to me is how pissed off he said he was losing to the Celtics. He wanted to prove he could win NBA title without Shaq.
That’s a nice piece, EG. My thought on Kobe is pretty much the same its been for the last decade: he’s one of, if not the, best scorer I’ve ever seen. But any other measure, he comes up short of the greatest. Whether its defense, passing, rebounding, leadership, etc, he’s sometimes engaged, but generally all he ever brings to your team is scoring. Which is important, but nothing like what other greats have brought, especially MJ, to whom he compares himself. MJ was a better passer, defender, and leader. But man, Kobe could put that ball in the hoop. Also… Read more »
Well written! Many NBA players supporting Kobe and as going so far to tell the media to shut up on smearing him Durant telling the media he was disappointed in them for treating him like sh^*in his last days. Our own JR really letting loose on twitter today mocking those he felt are hypocrites. As a fan of the game and respect for him as a legendary athlete, I don’t want to hear any shade or hate his way either. I think we have heard enough of that. No shortage in that dept.
Just a minute 63: you might expect people to excuse the rape because Kobe is legendary, but does legendary excuse being the worst ball hog in NBA history? Isn’t that part of who he is? Count me among those who are not impressed by someone who puts personal glory ahead of team success. So, yea, I’m throwing shade.
I don’t think he puts personal glory ahead of team success, I think he legitimately believes that him playing the way he does gives his team the best chance to win. In a way, it’s tragically romantic.