Recap: Cavs 115, Suns 93 (or, Movin’? Yeah! Groovin’? Yeah!)
2016-01-28In his 1982 stand up concert film Delirious, Eddie Murphy used the subtitle of this piece in his imitation of the great James Brown having an interaction with his band members. The joke was that, even though the guys couldn’t understand everything that James was saying, it was all working well enough for them to just keep shouting along in agreement… and it helped that they were all getting paid and having a good time. Similarly, even though the Cavs are still in the process of learning new Coach Tyronn Lue’s uptempo motion offense, it came together enough against the Phoenix Suns to get everybody up and shouting in assent. And, for the most part, the guys in wine & gold were movin’ (both themselves and the ball) around the court, and groovin’ to a fairly easy victory over the tired and sinking Suns… all while having a pretty good time. Everybody say “Yeah!”
It’s Too Funky In Here
In game three of the Ty Lue era, the Cavs came out looking to run and gun with the Suns, but turnovers, miscommunication and the officiating crew got in the way, and turned the fun into funk. Kyrie kicked off the festivities with some signature Uncle Drew moves for a score, and Kevin Love hit an early three, but the Cavs seemed to be overthinking and trying too hard to make the right decisions with the ball. Even though seven of their 10 baskets in the quarter were assisted, they also turned the ball over five times. Not that the Suns were much better in the early going, as they also had a quartet of coughups themselves. The lowlight for both teams was a back-to-back sequence of 24-second violations that seemed to have less to do with the opposing defenses, and more to do with general indecision about what to do with the ball. Halfway through the period, the score was tied at 11, and the game was more of a funky slow jam than an up-tempo shootout. Part of this could be ascribed to the quick whistles of the officiating crew, who seemed intent on keeping dance partners from getting too close, calling nine fouls in the first 10 minutes. Even old pal Lauren Holtkamp got in on the act, sending both J.R. and KLove to the bench with early trouble. Fortunately, Timofey Mozgov checked in with his dancing shoes on, and tossed in six quick points, including two dunks off of dives to the hoop.
An unfortunate by-product of the Cavs focusing on running more of a motion offense, however, is that they’ve let their defensive intensity and rotations lapse, especially early in games. They left the paint open for a Devin Booker backdoor cut, a Tyson Chandler dunk, and a steady parade to the foul line by Archie Goodwin. They also failed to close out on not one… not two… but three P.J. Tucker corner threes. LeBron hit a tough stepback J to keep the Cavs close, but they trailed 26-23 after one.
Papa’s Got A Brand New Bag
Maybe it was because of foul trouble… or maybe he just planned it this way, but Ty Lue dug into his expanding rotational bag of tricks in quarter two, and pulled out an old dog and a Wild Thing. For the first time in a week (and the first time since Lue took over), Richard Jefferson saw the court, and shortly thereafter, Andy Varejao joined him. AV brought some defensive energy and rebounding, and R.J. showed no ill-effects from his recent inactivity, knocking down the first two of his four shots on the way to a near perfect night. Despite a 1-5 bricklaying display from Kyrie to start the period, the Cavs kept moving the ball, sandwiching the two R.J. buckets with assisted J.R. bombs from downtown. In fact, 10 of the 11 Cavs’ scores were assisted in this quarter, giving them 17 in the first 24 minutes. LeBron alone had four in the second, including a throwback dish in the lane to Andy, a sick no-look bee-bee to a cutting R.J., and a nice set-up pass to KLove at the elbow (or at least elbow-adjacent… you be the judge).
Still, the Cavs were much too generous on the other end, allowing a couple of dunks in transition, and failing to close out on Goodwin and Booker from distance. They allowed the Suns to shoot 50% from the field in the first half, which kept Phoenix in the game. Although a runout throwdown by Iman Shumpert (off of a Moz-block) pushed the lead to five to close the scoring. Cavs led 55-50 at halftime.
Get Up Offa That Thing!
The Cavs got on up (and quickly) to start the second half, tightening the screws on defense and forcing the Suns into a multitude of poor decisions with the rock. J.R. (3) and Kyrie (2) took turns committing grand theft Spalding as well to kick start a series of fastbreak getaways. In all, the Suns turned the ball over nine times in the quarter, most of them forced by the Cavs (although a few were just careless throwaways). The Cavs took full advantage, exploding for 12 straight points (including a couple threes from KLove), and forcing Jeff Hornacek into consecutive timeouts to stop the bleeding. The highlight of the barrage though, was the very thing that got the kid in the title picture up and dancing like crazy… a little Globetrotter action between J.R. and LBJ…
The Suns recovered somewhat behind the efforts of T.J. Warren (who scored nine points in the quarter) and Markieff Morris (in his unofficial audition for the Cavs), but LeBron finished the period with a five point flourish of his own. Coupled with an R.J. triple, the Cavs pushed out to a 19 point lead, before a phantom foul on Matthew Dellavedova sent Devin Booker to the line for three shots. Cavs still led 87-71 at the end of three.
I Got You (I Feel Good)
Delly quickly rectified his mistake from the end of the third quarter by nailing his one triple (and only basket) of the game. Though he didn’t shoot well, he still dished out seven assists and was +17 on the night. Coach Lue opted to keep Kevin Love on the floor with the second unit (maybe because of his earlier foul trouble, or maybe to try out his rotational experiment), and it really seemed to work well. KLove continued his aggression, pulling down five of his game-high 11 boards, and getting inside for the last four of his 21 points. After a couple more easy Timo buckets, basically insuring LBJ’s night was over, J.R. tagged in for KLove, and hit one more triple to give him four for the game and 18 points. At that point, R.J., Andy and even Mo checked in to mop things up, ballooning the lead to as much as 28 points before sending the Suns packing. Cavs win 115-93.
The Evil:
By The Time I Get To Phoenix. The weary Suns are in the midst of a four game road-trip, and have only played five home games in January… not that they’ve fared much better in the Valley of the Sun. Phoenix is just 3-17 in their last 20 contests, as injury and discontent have decimated their once promising team. As such, it’s tough to take too much from this game from a Cavalier perspective. The good news is that Cleveland beat a team that it should have, and handled them pretty easily from the outset of the second half. The tempered news is that the Suns had mostly lost their legs by that time since they were on the second night of a back-to-back. The bad news is that the Suns got a lot of uncontested shots both inside and out in the first half, as the Cavs’ defensive rotations left something to be desired. Still, it was a win on a night that the Cavs took another step forward in getting Ty Lue’s motion offense down.
Cold Sweat. Jeff Hornacek has been on the hot seat for some time now, but you have to wonder how much hotter it’s gotten since the surprise firing of David Blatt. Odds are that he’s probably the next neck on the coaching chopping block. Wonder if he makes it to All-Star weekend?
Please, Please, Please. I find myself saying this refrain a lot lately when Kyrie shoots the ball. It’s clear that he’s in a bit of a slump lately… but he also doesn’t seem to have quite bought into the full share the ball offense that Coach Lue is trying to install. Much of KI’s wizardry comes from his remarkable handles, but the downside is that he doesn’t always seem to have a good exit plan on his ISO possessions. Especially in games like this one where his shot isn’t falling, it would be a real positive for the Cavs if Kyrie turned his focus to setting up his teammates a bit more. On a night where his team logged a whopping 34 assists, he should have more than just three of them.
The Genius:
Superbad. LeBron James flirted with efficiency perfection tonight, scoring 21 points on a scant eight shots from the field. He hit 7-8 (the only miss being a three ball), and 7-7 from the charity stripe. Despite only three boards, he led the team with nine dimes, and was a freaking runaway locomotive on the fast break. He squeezed every ounce of productivity out of his 31 minutes, and as a result, got to take the final 12 off to chill on the sidelines. Well… not quite chill… he did take some time to playfully dance around to Super Freak during a timeout. In lieu (or Lue if you prefer) of finding the actual footage of that, here’s an older reference that should provide a reasonable facsimile…
It’s A Man’s World. The young skinny armed kid from the Hoopers took the night off, and the real Kevin Love showed up for this game. This was the KLove we wanted. The one who balls out in the paint as well as from the arc. A rebounding machine. A focal point of the offense. Kevin took 17 shots tonight (making eight), compared to just eight for LBJ and 11 each for Kyrie and J.R. He took a beating early on from the Suns’ big men of Chandler and Alex Len, but responded strong, pulling down a game-high 11 boards. Kev also blocked two shots, snagged two steals and dished out four assists. It was one of his better all-around games of the season.
Ain’t That A Groove. J.R. didn’t let early foul trouble (however egregious) get him down. He not only did a terrific job mixing up his knock-down catch-and-shoot triples with his drives, but he also excelled in getting his hands in the Suns’ passing lanes. At one point in the third, he had three straight steals that led to runouts. He’s also an underrated passer, particularly on the fast break. Oddly, during the time of the biggest upheaval within the organization, J.R. has seemingly been one of the most consistent Cavs.
The Payback. You can sit them on the bench, and forget about them for games at a time, but both R.J. and Andy played like they had never heard of the term DNP-CD. All Jefferson did was knock down every shot he took (4-4, 2-2 from deep), and almost every free throw (4-5) for 14 points in 23 minutes. Andy was also highly efficient (3-4 from the field) with three boards and a steal. It’s great to see both of these guys contribute, and justify Coach Lue’s decision to expand his rotations.
Living In America. The other two foreign big men both had quiet nights if you only looked at the box score. However, TT had a terrific run of rebounds in the second quarter, and Timo brought both offensive energy by diving to the hoop off pick and rolls (hitting 5-7 shots for 10 points), and defensive presence to help protect the rim. When each of them is contributing, and bolstered by some minutes from Andy, this can still be a formidable big man rotation.
Give It Up Or Turn It Loose. The Cavs tied their season high with 34 assists, and did it on 45 made baskets. Every one of their 11 three-pointers was assisted. This is the kind of ball movement that Coach Lue has been preaching, and the results have been promising thus far. They also scored 33 points off of the Suns’ 23 turnovers, and dominated Phoenix on points in the paint 48-38. They shot nearly 56% from the field for the game and right around 40% from downtown. Granted, it was against one of the poorer defensive teams in the league, but those are still some robust offensive numbers.
There Must Be A Reason. Despite having only coached three games, Ty Lue was officially named as the Head Coach for the Eastern Conference for the All Star Game.
“He’s won 66 percent of his games so far,” joked Kevin Love after the game. “I don’t think it’ll be his last time coaching the All-Star game. We’re happy for him.”
Lue had originally wanted to avoid coaching in the game, suggesting that the NBA should allow David Blatt to still take the honors. But, since the NBA wouldn’t consider that as an option, Lue wanted to make sure the Cavs’ coaching staff got the opportunity to be rewarded for their hard work.
“It’s a tribute to Coach Blatt and the players and the hard work the assistant coaches put in to get us to this point,” Lue said. “It’s going to be a great honor to represent the Cleveland Cavaliers and having a chance to do this, I know my coaches are excited, and I know it’s going to be a surreal moment.”
Parting Shot:
As much fun as the second half of this game was, there’s still the caveat that it was against a far inferior team with tired legs. In fact, both of the last two games were a welcome respite of lottery teams for the Cavs to play with and recover from the aftermath of a seismic coaching change. The true tests are coming… and they will be stout. It begins with a tough back-to-back at Detroit and back home for the Spurs (who blew the Rockets out by 30 after their humiliation at Oracle). The last two games have been encouraging steps forward, and hopefully, the Cavs can continue to move the ball as they groove into the All Star Break.
It seems like the Cavs are getting into that underdog mentality that we might need to be motivating. Everyone’s saying that they have little to no chance of winning the championship. People are saying Cleveland’s coaching staff doesn’t deserve to coach the ASG. Only getting 1 all-star even though they’re on a 60+ win pace. Love has similar numbers to LMA who got in in the “tougher” west. {People saying we should trade Kyrie and Love for role players… Maybe we use all of this, the nobody believes in us mantra that seems to work so well for us and… Read more »
Cavs regular season record prediction: 70-12…
SHOUT IT OUT JOEYB !!!—I’M ALL IN !!——GOOD POSSIBILITY THIS MAY BE THE ” GALVANIZING ” PIECE THAT TAKES THEM TO THE TITLE
As long as they are also spiritually connected by April…
I’m on record saying I’m disappointed in the Blatt firing, more for what it says about the team than what it says about Blatt. However: These guys are young guys. They went from being favorites to being dragged through the Mud. LBJ is taking heat. Love is taking Heat. Kyrie is taking heat. ESPN (that bastion of professional journalism) has floated that all three of them should be traded. Suddenly, no one is giving them a chance. Add in that Lue really has something to prove – nearly the whole league believing he doesn’t deserve to coach all star game,… Read more »
K-Love is seventh in scoring and first in rebounds per game among all power forwards in the league. Plays for the best team in the eastern conference.
Snubbed.
Hope he plays pissed the rest of the season.
Definitely snubbed. Three Hawks last year on pace to win 60, and the Cavs are in the same glidepath and only get LeBron. Love’s numbers dipped slightly since Irving returned, but that wasn’t his fault.
K .LOVE NOT VOTED TO ALL STAR GAME ——DON’T THINK THIS IS A HUGE DEAL FOR KEVIN —-THINK HE WILL PREFER THE TIME OFF TO REST / RELAX / WORK ON HIS GAME AND ALSO THIS WILL HELP ” FUEL HIS FIRE ” TO PROVE EVERYONE WRONG —GO LOVE—GO CAVS !!!
Phenomenal recap, EG. That was a fun game against a terrible team. I also saw no one on that team I wanted. Markieff is mediocre at everything and a rangy above average defender. But he’s just meh everywhere else and is an a-hole. Just no. Also, at this point there’s nothing Chandler does better than Mozgov.
LeBron was absolutely amazing on the offensive end in this game. He moved the all IMMEDIATELY on almost every possession. It was almost Miami LeBron.
He was asleep on defense for the first quarter, but his decision to constantly move the ball set up Love and Kyrie for success. Now if only Kyrie could get the memo.
It doesn’t matter who the coach is if LeBron swings the ball that quickly. Great stuff.
JR. Defense. Well done.
To all the Kyrie-doubters:
It’s been a rough year for him. In two weeks, he’ll be your favorite Cav. (Funny how everyone turns on a guy when someone’s on a short slump.)
That’s why this game has been, and continues to be, about getting buckets.
I think the Cavs still have a shot at beating the Warriors with Love still on the team. However, he would be delegated to a much smaller role, where he would start but come out of the game rather early and basically be a bench player the rest of the game. At no time whatsoever can he be put on Draymond Green. He would have to come into the game only when the Warriors reserves are in the game. Whenever Curry is in the game, Love would have to be out because he could not guard a Curry pick and… Read more »
Resort to the “drive him nuts” defense by putting Andy on Draymond Green.
TT, LeBron, JR, Shump and Delly (minus Mozgov) were the main pieces in last year’s finals, when the Cavs “ran out of talent.” JR had a terrible finals, but Love and Kyrie absolutely have to be the difference makers. They’ve got to find a way to get Love minutes against the Warriors and he’s got to be able to punish them on the offensive end.
I think this up tempo pace will be the spark we need to show we’re the best team in the NBA by the end of the season. It lets us run it on offense, spread the ball around more, use our athleticism, and most importantly, will probably make guys more excited to play defense if they know they get to get out and run. GO CAVS!
That’s the hope. So far, its been making them too tired to play good defense. I think its great to push the ball and I think its great to be able to play at a fast pace against certain opponents. I fear; however, that a faster pace will help us little if we indeed face the Warriors in the Finals (assuming we make it that far). The Warriors are more than happy to have the extra possessions a faster pace provides them. They are more athletic than we are and they have better transition defense than we do. The way… Read more »
Hey everyone. Saw some other people getting in on their first commentings earlier, so figured I’d join in. Just want to say this is an awesome and highly knowledgeable community of sports fans. One of the only message boards on the interwebs that is actually usually very civil and thoughtful. You can really tell the people here care. Anyway wanted to get everyone’s thoughts on what they think of an idea. If the cavs are really all in on championship this year as they claim to be do you think they’d have to trade klove? I don’t see him being… Read more »
No way should we trade Love. Just no way. Number 1, you’re not going to get value for him at this point. Number 2, he is one of the best power forwards in the game. According to espn, he is third in RPM. He averages a, what, 16 and 10 a night? He shoots 35% plus from three. He is an excellent, and i mean EXCELLENT passer. His defense is average. Its not horrible, like some people like to claim. Its average to above average. When you see Kevin getting lost on defense, rewind the action and see where the… Read more »
I agree with pretty much all of this. Well said, well said.
One more thing…Its shortsighted to trade a player because you think they don’t match up well with a particularly opponent. First, players can adapt and change, even if they aren’t perfect for every situation. Second, that kind of thinking has you end up getting a player for an opponent you never end up facing at the expense of a team you do need him for. Remember when we signed Shaq for the express purpose of matching up with Howard? We overreacted to losing to Orlando, never ended up facing them again, and sacraficed minutes and scheme to play a guy… Read more »
You and I seem to agree on most things JoeyB. Above I give some of the same reasons for not trading Mozzy.
If you and I agree on most things, then my wife thinks you’re an idiot. :p
Bahahahahaha sounds an awful lot like my fiancé!
This may sound crazy, but after Saturday, we may not see the Spurs or Warriors again this year. Basketball can be crazy and I certainly don’t count out the Thunder with two of the best players in the game. If Westbrook and Durant are playing out of their minds, they could take 4 from San Antonio and/or Golden State.
I could very possibly see a Thunder/Cavs finals and would welcome it.
Yes, that would be great if they ran out of gas before the final.
Not with that coach or that point guard.
The Windhorst ESPN article on James as a coach killer is a pretty interesting, quick read. Especially for being by windbag who is one of my least favorite of the national guys.
Pretty provocative (in a bad sense) with its questions asked and answered. It got me thinking about LeBron and friends vs. would-be fathers. If you’re trying to be LeBron’s father figure you’re in trouble. His message to fathers real and imagined — I DON’T NEED YOU. LeBron is a man who lives for his brothers. David Blatt never could see a way to become that. It’s hard for any coach to do that within the framework of coaching. Really I think all the analysis of LeBron as calculating string-puller is off base. Maybe Team LeBron acts that way sometimes but… Read more »
Very interesting, Sigmund, I mean, Charlie. Seriously, that is a provocative idea. But Lebron did/does seem to have good relationships with his high school coaches, Keith Dambrot and Dru Joyce. Can you explain that?
He was a lot younger and as such was probably more receptive to father figures in his life.
Does that mean that maybe LeBron feels like Lue is closer to a peer than a father figure and will play for him like no coach before? Fingers crossed.
Way to, “Make it Funky” EG! You guys are the best writers.
One promising aspect of this game: The bench closing it out –
“At that point, R.J., Andy and even Mo checked in to mop things up, ballooning the lead to as much as 28 points before sending the Suns packing. Cavs win 115-93.”
We need to see more of it. Here’s hoping to see Mo, Andy, RJ, & MDN develop a chemistry and finishing games regularly.
Kevin Love having a strong game while leading the team in shot attempts got me wondering: what player should lead the team in shot attempts per game, or should it be fluid, with a different leader each night?
I think the Cavs are best when they adapt their offense to whatever defensive mismatch they can get from the other team. It’s the same reason I don’t want to see Mozgov traded, because there are some matchups where he can be a huge help.
I agree. Sometimes Mozzy’s big body is just too valuable against certain teams to just dump him. We cant make the same mistake we made when we adjusted our whole team to stop Dwight Howard. Yes the Dubs look unstoppable right now but they STILL have to make it thru what is likely to be a very tough western conference playoff. Also, Curry can be a little injury prone so they could lose him. The point I’m making is, we shouldn’t throw every single egg we have into the “beat warriors” basket.
It should be more fluid but I do think KLove does need a certain amount of shots per game, more than 10 probably less than 17.. He just does so many different things from several different areas of the floor that not giving him 14 shots a night, regardless of whether or not they go in, opens up so many different things for the offense. I don’t know why Kyrie refuses to run PnR plays with the rest of the team. He can get to any spot on the floor and yet no one else knows where he’s going and… Read more »
On a slightly related note, I want to encourage those who have not yet had the experience to listen to a lot of James Brown. It will deepen your understanding of music. If you don’t get the concept of “the groove”, play “I’m a greedy man” a few times in a row. (I hope that is not KI’s favorite song).
Some of the absolute best music of all time IMHO…
In the 1960’s, England was leading the music world with guys with Moe haircuts. US: I see your Beatles, and I will raise you this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DmlRK5RWNA
That footage from the Tami Show, the rest of it too, is some of the best stuff I’ve seen in my life.
It’s really amazing when you think about how many artists have been influence by JB…
FUNky recap EG. Once again I was only able to tune in on the Cavs radio broadcast but it seems like the team is really starting to emphasize ball movement and capitalizing on opponents’ mistakes by attacking in transition. Regardless of the quality of opponent, these are invaluable reps against pro competition. The defense should return to being dominant as we get used to the new pace… I’m interested to see if Lue has any new schemes/rotations for that end as the offense gets settled. Good things to come.
I love that CtB exists and I can come and always get an in-depth recap of the actual game every time and not the short-hand national media narrative. Props for the Eddie Murphy, James Brown theme.
The real test will be when they sustain ball movement against real defensive pressure. So far this year, that hasn’t happened, and they respond to steals of passes with less passing instead of with better passing.
Here’s hoping…
You nailed it. Maintaining an actual system against great defensive pressure is THE underlying variable in this team’s narrative.
That hammer screen action in the GIF you posted with Shump & Love is gorgeous. If you watch you can see Delly running his man through Shump and Tristan on the wheel route as well (very similar to the play the Warriors run ALL THE TIME with Steph / Klay), and absolutely wide open for the kick-out 3 if someone rotates to Love. That’s a really really well designed play. Isn’t playing actual offense fun?
Great recap EG, as usual. I know that this was more of a James Brown than Eddie Murphy ‘Delirious’ themed recap, but by the middle of the 3rd Quarter the Cavs were basically taunting the Suns, and all I could hear was, “You don’t have no ice cream, cuz you on the welfare, and your Dad’s an alcoholic…..”
Thanks taximike… I’m always reminded of you when writing anything concerning officials in a recap, but they noticeably affected the game in the first quarter or so… although they were pretty uniformly quick with the whistle on both ends…
Yeah, I was torn between doing more of an Eddie themed recap and a JB one, and since so much of Eddie’s act (while awesome) was R-rated… I opted to follow the JB path…
Re: Kyrie and his ball sharing, Jason Lloyd had this great quote from him after the game, in response to positive stats about assists that the coaching staff put on the white board: “I guess that’s an important stat,” Irving said. “When you have players like we do on this team, I mean, honestly, that doesn’t take away my freedom or what I feel like coming over half court. I’m going to make the best decision for the team and myself, coming up and being aggressive. One pass, two passes, three passes, if we get no passes and someone hits… Read more »
love lebron and delly looked alot better than KI, Love and Lebron. that is just an eyeball test though.
Love looked very good in this game. Not sure what your eyeball test was seeing unless you are talking about player pairings.
The difference between those trios was the point guard, not Love. He was comparing Delly and Kyrie.
Kyrie appears to be the only one on the team who understands how to make a proper statistical inference. I applaud him for being honest. The stats about 3 pt % and number of passes look the way they do because threes that follow more passes are more likely to be open, spot up threes. The goal is not to throw a lot of passes. The goal is to get an open, spot up three for a good shooter. That is exactly what Kyrie is saying. Makes perfect sense. I don’t think he is looking to avoid passing. He is… Read more »
It wasn’t a media narrative, it was Coach Lue’s narrative; He was the one who wrote it pregame on the board.
That’s a very good point. It could have just been a harmless jab, but reading the quote still makes you wonder if he’s missing the point Lue is trying to get across.
Disagree. Lue did ineed write it. But I am sure he explained the nuances of it to the team, and I am sure everyone on the team understands the nuance of what Kyrie is saying. The media has turned the Lue quote into an opportunity to ask every key player questions about passing, and then take their quotes out of context, and write simplistic stories about passing the ball. In other words, ny controversy associated with KI’s quote above is generated purely by dudes like Lloyd in the media and people like us running with it. I guarantee none of… Read more »
I’m sure you’re right that the quote is just framed to seem controversial. My only point is when I first read the quote I thought, that’s not the most reassuring thing you could hear from Kyrie in particular, if only because he’s the one still having to prove he can thrive in the facilitator role that the modern offense calls for. Nothing deeper than that.
I agree that this becomes low-hanging fruit for the media, but watching Kyrie play recently makes me think he isn’t really getting the message. Or like someone else said, maybe I’m sure I’ll feel better about him when he starts hitting shots again.
If you actually listen to the interview, that take is misconstrued. The questioner is asking if that pace stat goes through his head in the game. I think he is just saying he is trying to go with the flow of the game. Not that he would think about that stat, say nope, and continue to go into an ISO because he is disobeying coach. As the guys practice and play I think they will become more comfortable with the new pace but clearly it’s not an instinct at this point.
Yes but passing NEVER is an instinct with Kyrie. His whole career he’s been a shoot first, pass at the last resort point guard. Some of it was necessity, because he had no one he trusted shooting more than himself, but that certainly is not the case now. In theory, the Cavs team as constructed, is prolly the best situation for a shoot first PG, since Lebron and the others more than make up for KI’s passing deficiency. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
KI absolutely isn’t a pass first pt guard, and tends to looks for his own shot initially. That’s why LeBron took the ball out of his hands last year as you’ll recall. The eye test is clear when he dribbles into a crowd in the paint with no other plan B on what to do with the ball. Even AC called out Iriving on this last night. It’s glaring to me that he just doesn’t get the ball to Love enough. Ball don’t lie, and stats don’t lie: 3 dimes among 34 for your starting pt guard. And I very… Read more »
Kyrie must still be too focused on his brand. /s
KYRIE THE NEXT ” COACH KILLER ” —JUST WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO JUMP ON THAT
will be byron scott if i had to guess
This is where LeBron being the leader will pay off.
It will always be Lebron. Lost in the media pile up is the fact that Lue is Kyrie”s fourth coach in his 5 seasons in the NBA.
EG, good summary as usual. I sure agree that KI has got to pass more in general, but for sure when he isn’t shooting well like last night……and too many nights since his return. Delly had 7 dimes in 19 mins vs just 3 for KI in 22 mins. Also, KI didn’t seem to he impressed by the very revealing stats Lue put wrote on the pre-game blackboard. It showed the Cavs’ sharp increase in shooting percentage as the number of passes increases. I’m sure many saw the post game presser wherein KI said basically he still wants the freedom… Read more »
Thanks Mike, and I did read the reports about Kyrie’s response to what Lue wrote on the whiteboard. I assumed, as it seems like a few others below did, that the comments were taken out of context a bit…
THE NEXT 2 GAMES ( PISTONS / SPURS ) WILL GIVE US SOME KIND OF READING ON THE PROGRESS MADE AND THE PROGRESS TO BE MADE —-JUST AS WE SHOULDN’T GET OVERLY EXCITED ABOUT THE LAST 2 WINS —IF WE SHOULD LOSE THE NEXT 2 GAMES WE SHOULDN’T REVERT BACK TO “PANIC ” MODE —LOOKING IN THE NEXT 2 GAMES ( WEEKS ) ON HOW WE COMPETE AND HOW WE ARE ADAPTING TO A NEW COACH / SYSTEM
COLS IS THAT YOUR SON AFTER A LEBRON SLAM ( OR BETTER YET IS THAT YOU ?)
That is definitely Cols in the Middle.
Nope, if that was Cols he would have a T shirt on that said Lue>Blatt. Or else it would say, Delly Sucks.
Actually, Cols has pretty much tapered off on the “Delly sucks” narrative. I always wondered if he was just pulling our chain, or if he actually believed it.
It will be interesting to see how long Arch goes with “Blatt >>>>>>> Lue”.
Because Delly is good now. He was terrible last year. But this year he’s been so much better. Losing weight helps I guess.
And Lue has been much better than Blatt.
Nope Cols. As usual, I am not going to let you promote that bs narrative. Delly was never fat. Stop it.
And Delly was a solid backup guard last year. He’s a solid guard this year as well – just better from 3.
Good recap. Seems like you put some effort into making it all work! The last 2 games were good tune ups. The Cavs could get what they wanted by the 2nd half. It was also nice to sit Lebron in the 4th and have everyone else under 30 minutes. RJ and Andy are total pros. RJ has been a great signing as he can come in cold and still play effectively. Lue has done a good job with the rotations. Love ate up those minutes with the 2nd unit and we’ll have to see if Lue feels like that will… Read more »
I think its interesting to think about what this team will look like in April. If we continue to progress and take little to no steps back, what does this team look like? Do we compete with the Spurs and Dubs?
That’s the $120+M question
and gilbert has bet payroll plus tax on it. i like his chances better than any game at horseshoe casino
Really impressed how you can “spill pixels” and pair pics on such a short notice EG. If there is an ESPY for sports journalism I would hope that you are on the list. lets make that happen. As for the game, I only cought the second half. My boys are in Shrek Jr. here in central ohio. While they were practicing I would check the box score. Wondered if Mozzy and the frontline were shrek or donkey. Then the second half comes and that is what I am sure gilbert envisions his $ buying. even if it was against an… Read more »
Thanks chemist! And I hope the Love trade rumors never really materialize, especially if he plays like he did last night…
OK, I have been a loyal reader of Cavs the Blog since the late 2000’s. Your mixture of in depth well articulated basketball knowledge and insight is a breath of fresh air, coupled with the fact that you guys truly have a finger on the pulse of Cavs fandom makes this a go to site of mine off and on since after we drafted KI and pretty much every day since. I come here to soak in our victories, and lick my wounds in defeat. But the reason I finally posted after years of laying in the cut; because EG… Read more »
I second this. how many do we need for a quorum?
Quorum is usually a majority, and here I don’t think we’ll have trouble getting that.
A quorum is the minimum required to hold a vote.
Usually in the documentation defining your organization membership and a quorum will be defined.
60% of active members or 50% of paid members or 2 thirds of voting members will constitute a quorum.
Then there will be stipulations on voting.
Sometimes a quorum is required to vote on certain items. Sometimes you just need 50% + 1 of people present.
For extraordinary matters you might need 2/3 rds of the vote of a quorum or the quorum might be defined as all eligible voters present or not.
Check out the brains on bobby. Nice to know.
Great post.
And I just knew EG was a Delirious / Raw fan.
Thanks for your many years of loyal readership Znote! And glad you decided to comment! I had originally included a link to the clip in question from Delirious… but since I know there are younger readers here, I figured the profanity laced bit (regardless of how funny) went a bit too far across the line… However, I encourage anyone of age who hasn’t seen Delirious to check it out… Eddie Murphy at his most genius!