Stat Stats: Joe Johnson’s New Year’s Resolution
2016-02-26The impetus for today’s “Stat Stats” comes from Gordon’s comment:
Great stuff. Just throwing it out there, but I’d love to see an in-depth breakdown of how a guy like Joe Johnson would fit with this team.
You got it, Gordon.
Joe Johnson’s on the back 9, and his 2015-2016 stats are the weakest of his 14-year career. For the first time since his rookie season, he’s posting a negative offensive Box Plus Minus (which uses box score stats to model plus-minus. Not perfect, but a cool up-and-coming stat). His PER is at a career low but some of that is due to his career-low usage %. That second point isn’t necessarily a bad thing, as the Cavs don’t need another high usage player alongside LeBron (6th in USG%) and Kyrie (21st in USG%). Kevin Love’s usage dropped by more than 20% after joining the Cavaliers. So, as a role-player, how would Joe Johnson benefit the Cavs? I’ll remain an optimist for the rest of this post, but not before reminding everyone that Joe Johnson, despite his LeBron-like frame, is not now, and has never been, a great defensive player. Is he better than Richard Jefferson on D? Not sure. Johnson posted a 2-year Defensive RAPM of -0.63 from 2013-last season. So, below average, but not terrible. During that same timeframe, Richard Jefferson posted a -0.57. So if we assume they are about the same defensively, let’s put on our optimist cap and look at the ways Joe Johnson could greatly benefit the Cavs at the offensive end. The key, is to ignore everything Johnson did before the New Year. Let’s see what 2016-Johnson can do for the Cavs.
Since the ball dropped, Joe Johnson has taken exactly 100 3-pointers. How’s that for nice round number? When I tell you that he’s shooting 46 per cent from downtown, I literally mean he’s made 46 out of 100 threes. That’s awesome. Less than 15% of those 100 threes have been unassisted, meaning, he’s evolved into a deadly catch-and-shoot 3-point shooter.
It’s worth pointing out that, during this same time-split (2016 only), Richard Jefferson has made 19 of 41 3s (or, 46.3%). Like JJ, less than 15% of those have been unassisted. On a per-minute basis, these guys are almost identical in their 3-point shooting since January 1st:
JJ: 46 triples made in 826 minutes (or, a made 3-pointer every 18 minutes of action)
RJ: 19 triples made in 323 minutes (or, a made 3-pointer every 17 minutes of action)
(Of course, that Johnson has shot the same percentage despite attempting more than twice as many is more desirable.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2gcxeku56Y
Johnson has dished out 109 assists to just 55 turnovers (actually the worst A/To ratio of his career), so that jives with his reputation as being a decent passer. This playmaking ability as well as JJ’s mid-range game is what separates him from Richard Jefferson. Jefferson has been, since Jan 1st, almost exclusively a 3-point sniper and fast-break finisher. Johnson has done a lot more playmaking and only about a third of his shot attempts are 3-point attempts, unlike Jefferson who has taken more 3s (19) than 2s (14) since January 1st.
So a good way to think about Joe Johnson, based on the numbers, is that he embodies Richard Jefferson’s spot-up 3-point shooting but, additionally, he’s a more dynamic offensive threat and he creates more opportunities for his teammates. He’s shooting 50% from the field on 2-point attempts which is outstanding for a wing that is the primary offensive perimeter threat on his team. Unlike Jefferson who almost never takes mid-range shots, Johnson is still pretty effective from anywhere on the court. While historically more of a mid-range player anyway, Johnson has seen a precipitous decline in the number of shots he’s attempted at the rim this season (now down to 6%).
The Cavs play such a LeBron-centric style. Richard Jefferson is really the kind of guy suited to play with LeBron James, not in his stead. Part of the reason for this is that it’s easier to recover against more one-dimensional offensive players when LeBron is not drawing all that attention. This is where Joe Johnson is arguably a better LeBron substitute, while still being as statistically compatible with playing alongside LeBron (the highly accurate spot-up 3 point shooter). Here are some figures that lend themselves to this argument. These stats courtesy of NBAWOWY.com
Jefferson at the SF with LeBron on the Bench:
Cavs taking 40% of their shots from mid-range and only converting 39% of them.
LeBron at the SF with Jefferson on the Bench:
Cavs are taking 35% of their shots from mid-range and converting 43% of them.
Joe Johnson on the Bench:
Nets are taking 46% of their shots from mid-range and only converting 38% of them.
Joe Johnson at the SF:
Nets are taking 46% of their shots from mid-range and are converting 43% of them.
If those stats don’t mean anything to you yet, consider this: LeBron James’ percentage of mid-range shots (26%) is more than twice that of Richard Jefferson’s (12%). So why would lineups featuring RJ but not LeBron lead to MORE mid-range jumpers as a percentage of team shots? Doesn’t make a lot of sense, right? Well, my theory is that it’s the same reason the LeBron 1.0 era always went so badly whenever LeBron sat or missed games.
The team was/is built around LeBron’s unique skillset. He draws in defenders and the roster put in place around him is meant to catch and shoot, not create their own offense from scratch. (Kyrie Irving is the lone, and oftentimes necessary, exception.) When those more one-dimensional offensive players are left to their own devices, efficient offense is harder to come by, and guys that are not as comfortable creating something from nothing are forced into late-clock mid-range Js after they’ve been run off the comforts of their 3-point line. Thus, the much lower FG% in those cases.
If these mechanics I’m describing are true, a guy like Joe Johnson is a very solid LeBron replacement for those other role players, perhaps even Kevin Love. (Dare I call him a ‘role player’ at this point? Maybe ‘X-Factor’ is better…) Look again at the on/off numbers I posted above. The Nets take the same number of mid-range shots with and without JJ but they increase in accuracy by five percentage points with him. That’s not trivial. Johnson is comfortable creating something from nothing and he’s still pretty good at it. When LeBron sits, the overall offensive execution and role-player effectiveness should increase with Joe Johnson at the SF position instead of Richard Jefferson. Not only will Johnson draw the attention when he faces up that LeBron does, (not to that extent, of course) but in the event that the offense stalls out, he’s a much better guy to be taking those “we gotta get some kind of shot off” shot than anyone else sans Kyrie when LeBron is sitting.
Of course, in the playoffs, LeBron’s not going to sit very often in tight games. He averaged over 45 minutes a game in the Finals. That’s why it’s so critical that Johnson has been such an effective spot-up 3-point shooter since January 1st. The LeBron/Johnson fit should be not too dissimilar on offense than lineups that feature LeBron and Richard Jefferson (interestingly, those lineups draw the most fouls of any 2-man combination on the Cavs)
Conclusion: Joe Johnson’s New Year’s Resolution to shoot 48/46/92 would give the Cavs an adequate replacement for Richard Jefferson’s (also very effective) spot-up 3-point shooting. But his solid mid-range game and ability to create for teammates makes him a huge upgrade as a LeBron replacement during the 5-10 minutes a night when LBJ needs a breather.
For some other analysis on how Joe Johnson could fit the Cavaliers, I strongly recommend today’s “Hey Windy” podcast. He talks about how Johnson could help the Cavs in a small-ball lineup against the Warriors “lineup of Death”.
Kyrie short on all of his shots tonight.
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Championship!!!!!!
Sweet! Thank God we cleared Varejao off the roster to make room for him.
On the one hand, he scored 61 points in a D league game. On the other hand, he couldn’t stick with the Sixers or the Suns.
Lowery is pretty level headed. He sounds like LeBron in his comments: it’s another game for us to get better. It’s not a measuring stick game.
Any word on Shump for tonight? Looking forward to a good game.
I believe he is playing.
Thanks! Just saw that he is. Nice to see him play and show some fired up D but not expecting a whole lot necessarily.
I didn’t realize this just turned into Dubs: the blog.
Is Marcus Thornton good on defense?
No he stinks! May be worse than Kevin Martin. And he’s a below average 3-point shooter this season.
Cheap-O-Arison, or as I like to call him Mickey Mouse Arison, plans to waive a player to stay under the tax, to sign JJ.
Odds that Whiteside gets ejected in the playoffs for pile-driving an official?
.@WojVerticalNBA says Joe Johnson told suitors he “wanted starting job, major minutes”, thus choosing the #Heat
Glad he’s not coming then. Don’t want another whiny, mopey disgruntled player on the bench.
Go do your ISO ball in South Beach, JJ, with some of the worst fans in the NBA. The Heat won’t make it out of the second round. Elated that Johnson didn’t land with the Cavs despite LeBron wanting him. But then LeBron wanted Antwon Jamison too, and we know how that worked out. Integrating Frye with everyone else – but most importantly getting back to our great D from last year’s run – is where I hope Lue puts the most emphasis. Heck, I would be happy just to consistently have LeBron, KI and Love mesh.
I think his rationale for going Heat is clear – he is going to be a free agent, and he wants playing time to try to get a better free agent contract. He’s going to get more PT with the Heat than the Cavs or OKC.
He’d probably get significant time on OKC or the Clippers. But if he’s trying to score a contract with Miami, then it makes sense. I wouldn’t pay him more than $5 million on a one year deal, with a team option for a second year. He will be 35, and I don’t think he has more than 2-3 years left.
Why is ESPN still calling the Cavs “one of the best teams in the east”? We are the best team. What a weird disrespectful affront to me, personally.
They’ll be pumping the Miami-Cleveland storyline until the playoffs. We will see a lot of Pom Pom’s waived by Amin Elhassan, Dan LeBaTARD, and Bomani Jones.
I can’t stand Amin’s style of communication. Super sarcastic and nasty. Disrespects most people he talks about. Why am I still talking?? He works for espn
He only knows how to #HateHard, which basically means he’s a troll.
You complain about this but above you have people disrespecting GS. Why is one ok for you and the other have people in agreement?
I could care less what people say as the product on the court is most important. A word of advice though, the less you pay attention to the talking heads @ espn, the better off you will be.
If there were a scandal in the Golden State organization, would you call it Golden-State-Gate?
Really? If Cavs play in the playoffs the way this guy tries to be funny, the rest of the NBA has nothing to fear.
I like the ring of it.
Well you can be happy with 2 wins – almost 3 – in round one before being heckled off by the fans. Suck it up.
I’ll put on my big boy pants to see if I can “suck it up.” I may not be able to though.
Don’t feel bad. After all, Curry can’t do it with his mouthguard.
Slow day in Oakland?
Just curious, has Curry found out a way to get by Dellavadova yet other than “hope he falls down from dehydration?”
Sounds like Houston is interested in Kevin Martin. They can have him!
JJ cares about playing time more than winning. Nuf said.
Well…that and probably a couple extra million dollars
The defense of Steph curry against even a tiny bit of criticism is so funny. I don’t think those 07 warriors Stephen Jackson says would beat the current Warriors in the series…but I definitely think there is a definite difference in the way curry would perform twenty years ago. Zach Lowe is a great writer. I do enjoy when writers have to discuss real nitty gritty basketball with people who have played it. Lowe’s only response is “they’re historically great!”
Makes for an interesting debate.
Yep. They’ve one won freaking title. They are not the 1990s Bulls who won six. Or the Shaq Kobe Lakers that win three straight.
Get a grip people. They are having a great season. But they are not unbeatable.
And they won a title that was essentially given to them. LeBron took 2 from them – almost 3 – without two All-Stars and a banged up Shumpert.
Lol, keep on believing that. You can bask in your pretend championship. We’re good with the real one. But a second will be twice as nice!
Grats on your two wins – almost 3 – in last finals .
Why is a GS fan trolling a Cavs board? The majority of people outside of California believe what I said. There’s a reason people were giving Green and Co. flack well after the Finals ended. The basketball gods were on your side.
Imagine the Cavs, with not a single injury, playing GS without Klay and Draymond. Good grief.
Imagine peace on Earth. Imagine no childhood hunger. Imagine clean drinking water for all.
Worthwhile dreams.
Imagine the tooth fairy, santa claus, and an injured Klay. Imagine GS winning 2 – almost 3 – games.
Glad I don’t have to.
What if they win in sweep fashion this year, and win again next year? Are you still going to be dismissing them?
Of course not. But assuming they will is why we didn’t get rid of Dion fast enough. Deeming someone one of the greatest of all time before they actually perform to that potential is silly. It’s the same w teams. They aren’t the best ever until they are. They haven’t won 70 games yet. Pace and reality are different.
I don’t think people are dismissing GS’s championship as much as dismissing the chatter about Curry being the best of all time. He’s got a long way to go. He didn’t average 20 ppg until his fourth year in the league.
He’s a superstar now, and if he’s throwing up PERs nears 30 for the next number of years, people will have an argument. But come on.
I haven’t heard anyone (other than maybe GS fanboys, but who cares what fanboys claim) claim that Curry is the best player ever. I have heard many say he’s the best shooter ever, which is pretty clearly true. I’ve been watching the NBA to some extent since the mid ’70s, and there have been great shooters, but nobody has ever done what he’s doing this year. It gets a little old hearing people say ‘they aren’t that good’ or some such nonsense. I don’t like them either, but I’m not living in some fantasy world. If they lose to anyone… Read more »
A voice of reason. Thank you. FTR, I also don’t know anyone who claims Steph is best ever, that’s an internet thing. Most longtime fans still are aligned to Mullins/Hardaway and crew. Although this crew is definitely gaining fast.
Hey, thanks for the shout out, Tom!
I really like this analysis. I never would have considered this sort of thing. I like the possibility of signing Johnson a little more than I did before. It could really be a solid signing.
And as I write this, I see Johnson is supposed to go to the Heat. Well, I guess he doesn’t care about winning at all. The Heat are going nowhere.
JJ to the heat just flashed on ESPN.
At least we still have those two empty bench seats.
Marcus Thornton was waived by Houston. Don’t really think much of him either.
Yeah, no thanks to Thornton, who is shooting 34% from 3, and cannot defend.
I’ve been told that the 3 most attractive options for Joe Johnson were Miami, Oklahoma City and Atlanta. It was about fit, playing time. — Skolnick
Not surprised Skolnick would say this seeing that he’s a Cavs hater!
I think that Skolnick guy’s right though… he’s getting way more playing time on those squads than on the Cavs right or wrong.
Sucks. Oh well. We could’ve used him.
And the plot thickens!!! AV saying what we already know.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/former-cavaliers-player-recently-joined-173006576.html
Whatever. The difference right now is we weren’t healthy last Finals. Otherwise we’d be defending champs. They are better this year but they aren’t head and shoulders better than a fully healthy Cleveland team with playoff mode LeBron. Eph Andy.
Where did the idea come from that players need to get along?
Do you think a locker room with MJ and Dennis Rodman was all roses? I mean Jordan punched Steve Kerr in the face during practice.
I’m glad that the Warriors are buddies but I would venture to say it’s more a byproduct of this season from heaven they’re having.
Yep. Plus this Cavs team by all accounts gets along. Does anyone remember the cold tub video from JR last Finals. This team is a great collection of guys who seem to really enjoy playing together and don’t get into fights and stay out of trouble off the court.
I don’t think Andy was taking a shot at us. Bogut probably wasn’t either. Media loves conflict is all. When we win the title we can all chuckle about this article and feel a bad for Andy cuz he had such a FuN time losing another finals.
I thought the more telling point was how they play on the court, AV as quoted by Bogut:
‘Man, this is so different to where I was. You guys move the ball so well. Everyone passes up a good shot to get a great shot.’
Yep. You nailed it Phil. That was what I was talking about… funny how everyone else focused on the unimportant stuff.
By great shot you mean a step back 3 pointer from 25 feet from Steph? Or a 25 footer from Klay? That’s their entire offense.
Come and stop it.
Personally, I’m glad all we have to do is stop a James jump shot. That is if he doesn’t already stop himself.
I’d take my chances on our jumpers and great shooters.
What Andy is saying actually ties into part of what Lue is saying when he talks about pace. It isn’t just about transition baskets or early offense. It’s about keeping the ball moving to stress the defense and make it keep working.
The Cavs can be awesome, and they can be exasperating. If they keep the ball moving like the Warriors do, they tilt more to the awesome end of the scale.
I thought this idea came from you guys firing David Blatt. Weren’t the stories that the team was sad despite winning and being favorites. Then your GM fired this guy because he wanted a happy locker room and guys who got along with each other? The rumor was it was a cancerous locker room all caused by one guy. Get rid of the one guy made it a great locker room.
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly where this idea came from.
And now he’s not coming lol.
I think the Cavs will end up signing Quinn Cook from the D League and maybe Kevin Martin?
Yeah, neither of those guys will make the 12 man roster in the playoffs. At this point I’d just do some 10-day contracts.
I can confirm that Joe Johnson will be signing with the Heat upon clearing waivers, a league source tells @clevelanddotcom. — Haynes
Free agent Joe Johnson has committed to a deal with the Miami Heat after his clears waivers, league sources tell The Vertical. — Shams Charania
I hate Miami. I hope we face and sweep them in the playoffs.
The Heat expect to sign Joe Johnson today or this weekend, sources say. — Zach Lowe
I trust Lowe more than Broussard. So he’s probably going to Miami. Have fun sitting getting knocked out in the second round Joe!
Try round one. They won’t have bosh it looks like.
That’s right the Philosoraptor is out with blood clots.
As much as this would help a fantasy basketball team, I’d like to see the Cavs start to whittle down and tighten up the rotations as we get closer to playoff times, not expand them. RJ has played pretty well when he gets regular minutes, and I’d like to see more of the second unit with Kyrie and Frye, etc.
Miami seems like a better fit for playing time and maybe role. I think he’d fit in really well in OKC as well.
According to Amico: ESPN reported the Heat have surpassed the Cavs as Johnson’s top destination. One league source strongly refuted that report, telling Amico Hoops “that information had to have come from (Heat president) Pat Riley — the same guy that probably told ESPN LeBron was upset about (Cavs owner) Dan Gilbert’s letter a few hours before LeBron returned to the Cavs.”
I’ve always liked Sam Amico.
I’ve always hated Pat Riley. He’s a slimy cheating piece of dirt.
Yaaaaa… even his hair exemplifies that.
Sounds like Miami is in the lead to sign him. But that’s according to multiple sauces Broussard.
Well that was fast.