Recap: Washington 113, Cleveland 99 (Or, Fear the Walking Dead)
2016-02-28While many in our nation’s capital were just being served their third round of drinks at Bottomless Mimosa Brunch, the Cavaliers took to the court at the Verizon Center to face the Wizards and see if the sword is, in fact, mightier than the wand.
Just as I was thinking about how, historically, these 1pm Sunday matinees have never been a favorite of LeBron James (or any player in the NBA), news broke that The King would be sitting out today’s contest. After playing 40 minutes in Friday night’s 99-97 loss to the Raptors, Cavs head coach Tyronn Lue chose to rest the Cavs’ star. Richard Jefferson started in his place.
After beginning the season with high hopes, the Wizards have struggled, hit with injuries and inconsistent play. They started the game 2.5 games out of the eighth playoff spot in the East and had yet to make a push, despite finally having a healthy roster and trading for Markieff Morris at the trade deadline. The Cavs, meanwhile, were 2-10 without James over the last two season. Which team was up to the challenge of bucking recent history and which was caught still sleeping off a late Saturday night?
Of course, if you’ve read the headline, you already know…
Fist Quarter:
The Cavs came out looking to exploit 6-10 Kevin Love’s size advantage over the Wizards’ 6-7 stretch four Jared Dudley. After missing his first two hooks over Dudley, Love barely squeezed in a fall-away. Still, Love was extremely active, looking to take his man off the dribble, as well as establish position in the post. In the early going, though, both teams looked like they would have appreciated another couple hours to warm up their shots.
Not surprisingly, Kyrie Irving had no plans to be shown up by the opposing point guard this day. Irving and John Wall went after each other early. After allowing an Irving three, Wall nailed a wide-open jumper that was wide-open because Irving got stuck to the screen man. Irving answered by weaving through the paint and filling up the cup. Irving led the Cavs with 10 points in the first.
A vicious block of Love that knocked the Cavs’ power forward to the floor (with no call) led to an uncharacteristic clank on a three ball by Bradley Beal and an Iman Shumpert three in transition that put the Cavs up 18-12 halfway through the quarter.
A 16-2 Wizards run led by Wall and newly acquired Morris was finally stemmed by an Irving triple. But the Wizards kept feasting on a slow-moving Cavs defense. Washington was able to get what it wanted from the arc and from distance on their way to 60% shooting for the quarter and, at the break, the Cavs found themselves in an early hole, down 28-35.
The 35 points the #Cavs allowed were the most they’ve given up in a first quarter this season. Not exactly the start they were hoping for.
— Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydABJ) February 28, 2016
Second Quarter:
The Cavs went to their bench, hoping Matthew Dellavedova and Timofey Mozgov would help slow down Washington.
Mozgov responded with, perhaps, the shot of the game:
But Timo also coughed it up three times in a four minute span. With seven minutes left in the half, the wine and gold were down 43-33.
Irving re-entered the game with just over six minutes left and scored quickly. Love followed that by finally getting a hook to fall, but just when you thought the Cavs were ready to get something going, Wall hit an open jumper from the foul line and then converted an and-one break despite being wrapped up by Tristan Thompson to push the Wizards lead to 11.
J.R. Smith tried to keep the Cavs in it with five points late in the quarter, only to see the Wizards grab three offensive possessions in one play on the way to a demoralizingly easy layup by Wall.
Love responded by scoring on a drive and Dellavedova chipped in a Delly Trey, but with the clock ticking down, the Cavs allowed Wall to slice through what looked like all 14 members of their squad to keep the Wiz up by nine at the break 63-54.
Oh, and Irving didn’t even attempt to get a shot off before the clock expired.
Kyrie Irving didn’t want to shoot half court shot before buzzer so he wouldn’t mess up FG percentage. He ended up hitting it after buzzer.
— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) February 28, 2016
Third Quarter:
The Wizards continued to exploit the Cavs problems on defense. They picked on Smith, who was forced to continually help out on the perimeter and then recover a ways back to his own man. This freed up Otto Porter Jr. who nailed back-to-back three pointers and helped push Washington’s advantage up to 18.
The Cavs problems weren’t just limited to their defense. They looked disinterested and discombobulated on offense, as well. When they weren’t coughing up unforced turnovers, they were resorting to isolation ball, sometimes from the least desired sources. On one possession, Shumpert and his poor ball handling went full-Kyrie trying to dribble his man into submission before tossing up a shot.
I probably don’t even have to mention the fact that the shot did not, in fact, go in.
With just over six minutes left, Coach Lue showed his frustration with the lack of effort shown by his starters by subbing out everyone except Jefferson. Unfortunately, the move may have been too little too late. The Wizards had already found their groove and the Cavs’ heads had yet to clear customs from their trip back into the States.
The Wizards outscored the Cavs 33-16 in the third quarter. The score 96-70 after three.
Lue told players before the game if they compete & play hard they’re tough to beat. Not sure they’re doing much of either in this beatdown
— Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydABJ) February 28, 2016
Fourth Quarter:
More of the same…
Though, to be completely fair, Mozgov came in for the fourth and played with much better decisiveness, outworking the Wizards on the glass and giving a lift to the Cavs offense. Of course, if you were a Wizards big man, with your team up 30, your work was practically done. So, take that praise with a handful of salt.
And we saw the first appearance of D-League call-up Jordan McRae. McRae scored eight points in seven of the garbage-iest minutes around. Still, he got those eight on 2-4 shooting from the floor and did lead the team in +/- with a positive 15.
The Wizards also trotted out former Cavs Drew Gooden and newly-acquired J.J. Hickson. So, that was cool… I guess.
When the final buzzer sounded, it was Wizards 113 , Cavs 99.
The Wizards were led by Wall and Porter, who both scored 21 points. Wall chipped in 13 assists and Marcin Gortat had 13 points and 9 boards.
Irving led the Cavs with 28 points (9-20 shooting) and six assists. Love had 12 points, five boards and went 4-11 from the field.
Reasons to Believe:
•Um… well there’s…
•There was that one play where…
•Richard Jefferson was the only Cavs starter to finish the game with a positive +/-. He was +2 in 33 minutes. Of the Cavs rotation players, Mozgov was the only other player to give more than he gave up. He finished with a +1 in 25 minutes, chipping in 10 points and 10 rebounds.
After watching this game, I may need some bottomless mimosas myself.
Reasons to Quit:
•If LeBron James was the leader he says he is, he would say to the rest of the team, “I’m resting until you prove that you are a disciplined enough basketball team — a hungry enough team — to win without me.” The Cavs have the talent, but they have yet to show that they have the heart to grind out wins when James doesn’t play.
•The Cavs started out the game the right way. They looked to move the ball and find the mismatch. The ball often found its way to the third or fourth option… unfortunately, that option was Thompson who couldn’t convert the short jumpers his teammates created for him. By the time the Wizards picked up steam, the Cavs had abandoned trying to run an offense and resorted to Irving or Love going one-on-one, an infection that quickly spread to the rest of the team. The Shumpert play I described above was (unfortunately) wildly indicative of how this team played in a game they could have won.
•Thompson finished the game 1-4 for two points and two rebounds in 21 minutes of action. Too often, the Wizards’ players found themselves wide open in the paint, which led Coach Lue to lean on Mozgov.
•Channing Frye had a clunker of a game. He was held scoreless on 0-5 shooting (0-4 from three) with five personal fouls. He did chip in on the boards, grabbing five.
The Cavs better hope the showers at The Q can wash some of this stink off as they return home tomorrow night to face the Indiana Pacers.
Boycotting what a joke. If you want to boycott, state your name here and never ever come back. Otherwise, realize this was a game without Lebron.
Amen, brother. Preach it.
Can I admit to not watching this game? Or the next? Or the one after that?
That’s right, I’m not watching Cavs for a while. BECAUSE OUR CABLE HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY WORKERS KNOCKING DOWN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
I would give an awful lot to be watching the guys play right now, Lebron or no Lebron. I know there are concerns about the level the team can reach right now, but geez people – will you lift your heads and dare to dream?!?!
I’m going to catch hell here but does any of this matter? As formulated the Cavs don’t have the right pieces to win it all, clearly. KI and Love are major problems and won’t be moved until after the season, if at all. On the record I was in favor of a Kyrie for Bledsoe trade at the beginning of the year(so in theory that would have interesting and then Bledsoe got hurt) and I’m still interested in seeing if we could trade Love for Favors in the offseason. Anyway, what good does it do to limp to the finals… Read more »
Why does everyone assume this year is it for the Cavs?
If you mean a LeBron led team, I’d say they have a three year window, but know who knows? I suppose if LeBron stuck around long enough and could adjust his roll with age then they could have a good 5-7 year window with the right players around him.
Yep, agreed what I have been saying since Lue took over. If they actually ever figure out how to play true team ball, they can contend and contend better for the next 3-5 years than they probably will this year or last year. Is this year impossible? No, but they have to get a lot better in a very short amount of time. However, eventually the stars of this team will need to buy into some radical changes, especially offensively. Defensively, I have yet to see the commitment a perennial contender needs.
I am expecting a Windy report tomorrow about some LeBron and Kyrie, or Love and Kyrie, or Lue and LeBron, or something like that. Who’s with me?
No doubt some report is going to come out. The post season can’t come fast enough. The Cavs will be #1 or #2 in the East
Agree. And I think they will lock in and start rolling.
If you think Varejao sucks, look away.
Here’s CtB’s own Tom Pestak (assist from Nate) with a Twitter smackdown in defense of Andy:
https://twitter.com/tompestak/status/704048797878366208
Can you believe that?
Varejao “unplayable” and “worst defender in the NBA”
Holy smokes.
The data shot that looked like it came from Joshua in WarGames was a nice touch.
Love War Games.
I love Andy. You all know I do. BUT…. yes there is a But. Of course his +/- numbers will look fantastic on the Warriors. He gets burn time with Curry, the superhuman Basketball god. Curry would make anyone look GREAT including CtB writers. LoL He scores like 40 pts a game, Gets 3’s from the half court now. I have watched Andy play on their team and he makes a lot of mistakes and misses easy layups. He is still fighting for deflections and setting good screens. And Andy’s flopping has returned Big time. He was a nonfactor against… Read more »
Yeah, +/- is always noisy, but never noisier than tiny sample size playing on that Warriors team. I think he had lost a lot of athleticism, but was still at least ‘okay’ on the Cavs. Anyone saying he’s the ‘worst’ is clearly crazy – he had two guys on the Cavs who were far worse in Mo and KI.
It’s not noisy. It’s a team-based stat that we apply to individuals. If you read it as “The Team outscored opponents by X points while Varejao was on the court” there is no noise. If you read it as “Varejao was responsible for +11 in this game” then it can be misleading.
The fact is, his teams have been outscoring opponents when he plays. By a lot. Therefore, he CAN BE PLAYED and the team meets it’s stated goals (to outscore the opponents). He is, then, PLAYABLE.
But Tom is right. He is NOT the worst defender.
I’m giving Kyrie a break until next season. If he isn’t back to last season’s form now or even in May, it’s probably because he’s still recovering from the injury. It would be a classic case of selling low to trade him.
There is something to be said of his attitude though.
What a dumpster fire. Thinking of quitting the NBA and watching something where the players care about putting on an entertainin show
UNFORTUNATELY I THINK TEAMS / COACHES HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWROK AND HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO ATTACK / COMPETE WITH THE CAVS—- THAT SO CALLED ( AND EVER SO IMPORTAMT ) ” INVICIBLE SHIELD ” HAS BEEN BROKEN —-THE CAVS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO “FIGHT —COMPETE —-EARN ” THEIR WAY TO EVEN WIN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP —IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HANDED TO THEM AS IT WAS WAY BACK IN NOVEMBER ——AGREED THE TIME TO ” MAN UP AND SHUT UP ” IS NOW ———MY HIGH SCHOOL COACH ALWAYS TOLD ME TALK IS CHEAP”—“YOU GOTTA WALK THE… Read more »
To be honest I still don’t have confidence in Lue as a championship coach. It’s unfair to compare him to the Popovich Jacksons, but I believe there’s even some re-threads out there who’s better than this guy.
Also Mark Jackson to me is IPad Air version of Mike Brown..
I didn’t watch the 4th quarter, but man that was a bad bad game, after a good start. At this point, we are not as good a team as last year. Kyrie, Shump, JJ, and Mozgov are significantly worse this year. TT is sometimes his old self, but often is coasting along.
It’s hurting Delly that he doesn’t get much run time with TT. Instead he’s out there with Frye stumbling over him, I mean it figures to take a while to get Frye working well, but right now he’s not looking good.
Yuck, that was a stinker.
Yeah, who is his high energy guy now?
Tomorrow is practically March. We’re still the same team back in November.
If the league is giving out trophies for being “consistently inconsistent” team we’re in for a dynasty.
The Finals start in early June, so we still have 3 months.
For sure. As a die hard fan I’ll still bet on our chances to win if we’re in. But as a person with some grasp on reality, chances of us being the best team by that time is well..
I agree. But I still feel very confident we will get there. Which, for a Clevelander, should be a fun and enjoyable thing.
So remember when most of us are saying “we still have until March to figure it out” in December? Or “we still have 3 months to get it right” in January? Haha.. Thought so.
Well there’s always next year for the Cavs.
Lowry sitting today.
Detroit 103 Toronto 78. 8:30 remaining.
DeRozen started the game scoring a bunch of points, but not playing with any heart.
He’s got the flu, I don’t think it’s fair to blame him for lack of heart.
Now he has the Budweiser flu? Figures. LoL
Cavs, without Lebron, lose by 14 today – after being down big.
Raptors, without Lowry, lose by 13 today – after being down big.
WHATEVER ——–AT LEAST THE RAPTORS ARE GETTING CRUSHED BY THE PISTONS ——-MENTIONED BEFORE –DO NOT WANT TO MEET THE PSTONS IN THE 1ST ROUND
Windhorst just said on Stein’s show that Kyrie and Lue have tension in their relationship.
Coach Killer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For once I actually believe Windhorst. Btw it’s no secret both Kyrie and Windhorst don’t like each other. But I do believe him.
SO TOMORROW WHEN WE BEAT THE PACERS ( FULLY EXPECT THAT ) ALL WILL BE ” TEPORARILY” GOOD —–BUT FOR ME THE CAVS NEED TO PUT ON A GOOD STRETCH OF 15 GAMES ( DON’T NEED TO WIN –JUST PLAY LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS —-THEN MAYBE I WOULD START TO FEEL BETTER / MORE CONFIDENT ——–STILL TOO EARLY TO START ABOUT WHO IS GOING / WHO IS STAYING —LET’S SAVE THAT UNTIL LATE MAY / JUNE ——-THEY DO NEED TO GET SOME YOUNG BLOOD ON THIS TEAM TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE ——-AFRAID THIS ” WIN… Read more »
NOMAD agreed: “STILL TOO EARLY TO START ABOUT WHO IS GOING / WHO IS STAYING —LET’S SAVE THAT UNTIL LATE MAY / JUNE” “-AFRAID THIS ” WIN NOW ” ATTITUDE IS GOING TO COST THEM DEARLY —–WE MAY HAVE A 3-4 YR WINDOW TO BE COMPETITIVE ( NOT EVEN SAYING ABOUT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP )” Thinking about a championship at this point is ruining the season for both the fans and players. And aside from a few “fart games” – it’s been a good season. The type of season that Cleveland fans don’t see much of. I read yesterday that… Read more »
We have a lot of new posters on CtB.
Where have all the regulars gone? I don’t see any of them here today.
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You’re making up for them, U-Dog. You are post-apocalyptic tonight my man!
We’ll make it to the Finals no question. But we’re playing for the title, which with the way GS is playing, no way that’s going to happen. sorry guys, LeBron isn’t going to bring a title to Cleveland.
I’d rather not make the finals at all this year..
Well, since now the players (JR), and local media are criticizing the team, I think it’s okay for the fans to do the same. Yes, this was a Sunday game in February, and yes they could still make it to the finals. But I don’t see this team as constructed winning a championship. I anticipate some major changes this offseason. And I think either Kyrie or love will be traded. I also don’t see Ty Lue being the coach of this team. But I’d rather have Lue then Mark Jackson.
I probably have as much respect for JR as any Cav right now.
I’m going to go way out on a limb and say that LBJ is the one that will be leaving. A mutual decision by LBJ and Gilbert (although Gilbert doesn’t really have to decide).
What this inquiring mind wants to know is WHY there wasn’t any effort today, or against Portland in December? Were both games Saturday afternoons – because after watching years of girls high school basketball anything can happen on a Saturday afternoon.
This team really knows how to put the “FUN” in dysfuntional.
That would be awesome if he leaves…oops, James can’t go anywhere though, that would ruin his brand. He’ll definitely come out as a quitter. I would say JR is leaving, Delly too if he isn’t restricted. But if James leaves, can we bring back Blatt.
No, he can leave. He just can’t go anywhere else. I happen to think if it goes bad this year, he’ll retire.
The real question, unless the Cavs somehow win the championship this year (which ain’t happening if it’s against GS), is who Mark Jackson’s preferred GM is when they can Griff. Maybe make Jackson coach/ GM?
I’m okay with them playing basketball the right way, watching the team be exciting and winning games, and NOT winning a championship this year.
The only explanation that I could accept as being some what justified is the fear of injury hanging over this team after what happened last year. Perhaps Kyrie’s body breaking down last year after 10 months of brilliant basketball made him put all his priority in to staying healthy whatever the cost to the team.
That’s why I’ll reserve final judgement until the playoffs. No excuses will do then. Even from Cols ;)
A lot of “right things to say” damage control in the post game interviews.
I’m a little concerned that LBJ told Lue yesterday that he was staying in the game and played 40 minutes, took the last shot despite his poor shooting percentage this year, called out his teammates for lack of toughness (gee, they had it in last year’s playoffs), and then told Lue he was taking today off.
Contrarian, may Joe Johnson was onto something.
Wow only a little concerned.
We just saw the Portland game all over again today, folks. Draw you’re own conclusions about the cause of it.
Don’t know what happened to the Kyrie Irving that was the unselfish MVP among a cast of all stars inthe FIBA games under Coach K. I think Popovic would take him in a second. I know Coach Stevens in Boston (who is no dummy) would give up half his team for KLove. Don’t know what’s happened to Shumpert, Mozgov, and Tristan this year either.
Maybe Joe Johnson knows something about the Cavs that we don’t.
This team has lacked heart for a while. It was the complaint I had after watching them get embarrassed by the Warriors so many months ago. They fired Blatt to try to fix it, but lacking heart, I’m afraid, just ain’t fixable. I don’t think its a coincidence that this team showed the most heart after Love and Irving were out in the Finals. I can’t take hearing Irving talk about being a leader. He’s been saying it since he was the first pick in the draft. You’re not a leader. Lead on the court, with your defense, with your… Read more »
Clearly, there are parts of KI’s game that should have progressed more by now. But this is not “Fantasy Basketball.” There are a myriad of trades discussed, only a few are ever made, and most players that get moved are so so. All have a flaw or weakness.
How do the Cavs get Kyrie to fully develop his game?
I don’t know if they can – I think he kind of is what he is. I don’t think he understands the game that well, the big picture. He makes tons of bonehead plays, both on offense and defense. He always has. If they could make him at least give twice the effort on defense, that’d be a huge improvement.
Are you talking about Kyrie or Lebron?
Lebron has his faults, like most players, but no way should he be compared to KI…at least to this point in their careers.
One guy went to the finals 5 straight years, has two rings, 4MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs.This guy came within 2 games of winning a title while missing the 2nd and rd best players in the finals and most of the playoffs. The other guy has never even come close to sniffing a play-offs while being lead dog in three years. Oh yeah, he also won that all important All Star and FIBA MVPs. So I guess, it’s really very difficult to answer who needs to improve and change.
Throw-away baiting comment. Would you care to elaborate on your position.
NO BLATT / NO BOWLING / NO OFFENSE–NO DEFENSE / NO IDENTITY / NO HEART / NO MORE EXCUSES——NO CHANCE OF GOING TO NBA FINALS ( UNLESS IN THE LAST 24 GAMES WE ” GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER ”
KEEP JORDAN AND GO GET SOME OTHER ATHLETIC YOUNG BLOOD —CAN’T BE ANY WORSE IN WHAT WE ARE SEEING
ENJOYED WATCHING THE ” HERCULOIDS ” MUCH MORE THAN THIS GROUP AT LEAST THEY ” GAVE A SHIT “
NOMAD – There’s a reason they don’t give a . . . whatever.
We may not agree with it or like it. But there is definitely a reason.
One thing today made clear: LBJ should be at the top of the MVP convo with Steph.
It’s why most valuable player is such a stupid name. No question LeBron is more valuable to us than Steph is to GS. GS would be around .500 without Steph where as we would be collecting ping pong balls.
They should have one award for most valuable player regardless of how crap the rest of his team is, and another for the player people will most remember when thinking of this season.
Well it’s most valuable player of the league, not a team.
Yep. And no one is in Curry’s class, at least this year. He is having the most efficient season of all time. Of course if blocks were counted back in the 60s and 70s, nobody would probably ever touch Chamberlain.
Agree kyrie was a mess today. But love is embarrassing. There’s no real argument, all I’m saying is that we should have let go of this mope when we had the chance. When the cavs made a push at the end of the first half love got a charley horse and let that get in the way of feigning even an attempt to get in any ones way for the rest of the game. Somehow he’s immune to critcicism though because he doesn’t get the ball at.the elbow.
Unfortunately, Love has to fake a charley horse to get out of a game. LBJ doesn’t.
In hindsight last years playoffs may have been the biggest sign imaginable that this team doesn’t actually play any better with Kyrie or Love. Sure Kyrie can put up incredible numbers – but he gives up so many at the other end his points are redundant. I have been with the Cols argument of “they’ll improve in the playoffs”. But, what if that improvement we saw last year was because the team just became entirely LeBron centric. I would be utterly amazed if they don’t both get traded in the summer if we fall badly short. Trade Kyrie straight up… Read more »
I would take Paul for KI in a heartbeat right now, but no way the Clippers would do it. And I don’t even like CP.
Maybe we do a 3 team deal with Boston and LA. We get Paul, Crowder a couple of late 1st rounders and maybe some other wing Boston have. LA gets Kyrie, the Brooklyn pick and another 1st.
Or maybe we trade Kyrie for Austin Rivers, threaten to trade him to the Syrian basketball league before trading him back to LA for Paul.
It’s looking more like Kyrie will need a change of scenery in order to turn back into a perennial all star and potentially a hall of famer.
What’s funny is we drafted Crowder, but traded him and Jared Cunningham for Zeller.
I’m less concerned with the on court play than I am with the body language of the team the last two games. In the 1st qtr versus Toronto there was a sequence where LeBron has the ball and calls Kyrie to set a screen – who then REFUSES!!! LeBron gestures more aggressively, Kyrie seems to just sigh in exasperation and jog across. LeBron just walking off court come game end, everyone getting mad at Mozgov, people moaning at each other after each defensive breakdown, Smith today just dribbling it up twice in succession to launch two awful contested mid rangers… Read more »
Maybe Kyrie refused to set a pick because Lue didn’t call a play that required a pick?
Could be. Reminded me of what Donny Marshall (Nets broadcaster) said right after Blatt was fired, that a couple of Cavs players had told him pre-firing that there was a lot of on-court confusion because they didn’t know if they were running Blatt’s stuff or doing what LeBron wanted.
Wouldn’t be surprised that this is still going on.
What did you expect? The Miami years worked because there were Bosh, Wade, and Riley who kept Lebron in check. Meanwhile in Cleveland, Lebron portraits himself as a leader, running the show…you’re seeing the result.
Kevin love got annihilated by Otto porter. Otto. Porter. Barely nba player, Otto. Porter
I know you are not a fan of Love, but Kyrie’s play is an equal if not worse issue. Love’s stats are similar to Lamarcus Aldridge. But as you noted, Love seemed to lack energy after the first quarter today particularly on defense.
Love and Irving’s d and the whole team’s inconsistent effort level is a huge portion of the problem. I know you are harping on Love, which you should cause he sucked today, but Irving’s d is just as big of a problem.There is a reason why despite scoring 28 he was -22 and Wall was +23. He just sucks on d more than 95% of guards in the nba. But the whole team was garbage today. Whether it is because effort or inability, this team just has a lot of net negative defenders. Also they fall into terrible simplistic offense… Read more »
Leader LBJ didn’t show up today either.
Yeah I am fine with that since the dude has nearly 38000 minutes on his legs. I have been of the opinion we need to rest him more and play him less than 32 minutes a night.
This team supposedly has two other all stars. If they cannot show defensive intensity for a game without James, well they have no pride. I mean, 2 and 11 without James, those numbers alone should light a fire under their ass just to prove to the league they aren’t just good stats bad teams guys. Apparently, it wasn’t a big enough fire though.
How frustrating it must be for Lebron to see Kyrie is no Wade (on defense) nor does Love play D like Bosh. He should be able to sit a game out and they pick up the intensity
LBJ plays as many minutes as LBJ wants to. If he has 38000 minutes or averages 36 minutes a game this year – that’s his fault.
Well I hope he realizes he cannot keep this pace up if he wants to prolong his effective and elite years in his career. Even then it is besides the point. This team should still be competitive even if James rests.
You’re absolutely right John b . . . unless it’s a Saturday afternoon or Portland “statement” type game.
Next time I suggest he plays 20 minutes against Toronto and 20 minutes against the Wizards. Or 30 / 10 or something.
So by that comment udog, assuming it wasn’t sarcastic, you think James, who has more minutes in history by his age than anyone ever, ever, in the nba, should be not be rested differentially than everyone else on this team? Is that what you are saying? Just asking, because in the words of Indiana Jones, “It ain’t the years, it’s the miles baby.” As a guy whose professional career has been split between physical and academic settings, despite that being a fictional character, I can agree with that sentiment.
MJ was avg 38 min a game when he was 35, how old is Lebron again?
He’s 31, but he started his NBA career three years younger than MJ. It’s pretty clear that he’s past his physical peak and some occasional rest will do him good.
MJ also took some years off. Lebron is carrying mondo minutes played, even if people like Cols think that stuff is insignicant.
I really don’t think lue had much to do,with it. The team exerted zero effort. Rewind all the plays where love gave up points without even bothering to put a hand in any ones face. I really can’t exagerate how underwhelming kevin love is in person. This is my 6th game watching them and I really really wish we could have gutted the Celtics for a wildly overrated player.
So why are they worse at defense since he took over? Something changed.
Didn’t Kevin Love recently have two games with over 20 points and 10 rebounds? Who is this imposter?
Eventually this team just has to look itself in the mirror and figure out what they want, because right now and throughout most of the season they have looked a second tier contender. We judge them based on a game to game basis. Oooh they blew this team out one time or ooh they lost this close game. Wow they are turning the corner, everything is sunshine and rainbows. Ooh this loss doesn’t matter cause it’s the regular season. What we should look at is their massive inconsistency, mediocre point differential (for a contender), their overall record against the top… Read more »
I can’t even talk or look at this team. It is becoming clearer firing Blatt was a knee jerk reaction and a Big mistake. SO it has been said Big 3 didn’t like Blatt , but what Lue is to them is way worse. A Best Buddy they can walk all over and dismiss nonchalantly. My spouse and I have a business, the very worst thing you can ever do is hire your friends as employees. It’s fun and games at first but when it’s time to get to work, they try to get over on you. The end result… Read more »
Yes, TV63, it is becoming clearer that firing Blatt was a knee jerk reaction and a Big mistake.
Or maybe an act of desperation to get through to the players — the ‘No more excuses’ theory.
Or maybe an act of desperation to get through to the players that was a Big mistake.
Right, not mutually exclusive. I tend to think it was a mistake, with the caveat that our info looking from the outside is sketchy.
Still no way to run a team. You should have the control of your team at all time, not the players.
This whole team needs a vacation. Southwest Airlines has some excellent fares right now.
I think Cav fans need that vacation more from what we have been forced to witness.
Actually, you’re right. Southwest does have some nice fares right now.
They can all take a vacation if they exit early from the playoffs.
It just doesn’t seem fair that losers get to go to Disneyland a week or so before the Champions. Can that be considered incentive to lose?
They need a bowling game.
I wonder how often a player can score 28 but still be a team worse -22 +/- ? That is Kryie. Also, TT has had too many clunkers like this one, but as Robert noted there were few bright spots. There is one good thing about the game, however, for another fan: I just sold two $75 tickets to someone on Flash Seats for just $25/ticket. After this game, I decided a one game fan boycott was appropriate . I was in love with the team last year at this time, but as a poster noted during the in-game commentary,… Read more »
There seems to be some reading of the tea leaves on Kyrie.. And it’s not looking good.
A lot of “boycotting a game” going on these days.
Just couldn’t bear going to tomorrow’s game after the debacle today. I get to about 15 games a year.
Well, if you’re going to boycott the game, go do something and have fun. Don’t watch the game at home either. (Although I, certainly, am curious what happens against a tough Indiana team after what happened today and LBJ gets back.) Maybe you watch that game but miss the next one.
Hey gang, I’m a long time reader and big fan of the site. Normally I am in the cols camp that everyone is way too negative after cavs losses. But I was at this game. I’m worried that we did not trade k love at the deadline. This dude does not care. The next time lbj gets criticized for running love out of town he should hold up a replay of this game. K love is 100% the problem with this team. Good luck bricking wide open shots and just being out to lunch on defense in beantown. That media… Read more »