Recap: Utah 94, Cleveland 85 (and, All That Jazz…)
2016-03-15Trying to figure out what exactly happened to the Cavs last night in Utah had me looking in the mirror and shrugging wide-eyed like Roy Scheider playing an exhausted Joe Gideon (aka: a thinly veiled Bob Fosse) in a late 1970s musical… And, if any of that makes sense to you, kudos for following my tired brain deep into the recesses of this forgettable night of basketball. Maybe it was the altitude (Salt Lake, like Denver, has seen its fair share of last-stop-on-a-roadtrip losses for contenders like the Cavs). Or, possibly the product of tired legs from the second night of yet another back-to-back (thanks Adam Silver!). Or, perhaps the wine & gold did so much living by the three in the City of Angels, that the law of averages dictated they must finally die by the three for a change. Then again, maybe the road-weary Cavs just ran into another young, scrappy, playoff-starved team with more at stake (especially without their star) than the favorites in the East. In all likelihood, though, it wasn’t just a singular one of those things… it was All That Jazz…
Take Off With Us
Following the three point barrage just the day before against the Clippers, the trend seemed like it would continue when Kyrie Irving swished his first shot from downtown off a LeBron James assist, just 12 seconds into the game. Sadly, this would not be a portend of things to come. In fact, it would be the only shot from beyond the arc that Kyrie would convert from the nine he attempted this game. However, LeBron still had a little juice left in his batteries from the road trip, and he chipped in a quick six points on a drive, a sweet turnaround jumper that was smooth as glass, and yet another high-degree-of-difficulty alley-oop from J.R. Smith following a steal. You could almost hear J.R. singing the chorus “Don’t you, don’t you, don’t you… Don’t you wanna go higher now?”
Everything Old Is New Again
Contrary to Sunday’s game, Timofey Mozgov started to believe dreams could come true again, as he actually had a little success against the long arms of the Jazz front line, throwing down two dunks in the first eight minutes. Unfortunately, neither he nor Kevin Love could do much to stop Rudy “The Stifle Tower” Gobert, and Derrick “I’ll Do You No” Favors from tearing the rim down themselves. And, when they weren’t wrecking the rim like creatures out of the old Rampage video game from Midway, they were setting screens to free up Shelvin Mack and Rodney Hood for open jumpers on the pick and roll. Hood in particular seemingly had on his white suit, tap shoes and tails, as he went off for nine points in the opening frame to help send the Cavs backwards from an early seven point lead to a five point deficit. Only a throwback fadeaway triple from LeBron at the buzzer (to give him 11 in the quarter) kept the Cavs close when all else failed. Jazz led 28-26 after one.
Who’s Sorry Now?
The start of the second quarter marked the beginning of the end for the Cavs with regard to their tempestuous relationship with the officiating crew in this one. Tom Washington and his crew were not especially in the mood to be called out or shown up, and they handed out the first of three technical fouls to the Cavs on the third possession of the period. This one went to Channing Frye, following an apparent uncalled goaltend on his shot by Favors (replays showed it probably could have gone either way) and this subsequent dunk by Frye after Iman Shumpert stole the ball back, the deep-Fryer boiled over and voiced his displeasure to official David Guthrie.
Little did Frye know at the time, but this initial tech would prove costly later. And, even though it seemed to fire the Cavs up a bit, sparking a mini-run, they soon felt the short end of the penalty stick (six fouls vs. two on the Jazz in the quarter), as Utah cranked up the defensive intensity.
Bye Bye Love
It’s no secret that Kevin Love has been saying “bye bye” to consistency with his shot (especially his outside shot) for a little while now… and none of that changed in the first half of this game. Love was 0-4 (0-3 from downtown) in his first two quarters of play, missing mostly wide open looks at the hoop. What made him probably want to die, however, had nothing to do with his anemic jumper… and everything to do with his dreadful defense on rookie, Trey Lyles… which led to this dreadful clip…
Cavs defense on this play is not good pic.twitter.com/c6Fcvt14yC
— The Cauldron (@TheCauldron) March 15, 2016
Things didn’t go much better on the next sequence either, as Kev got stripped by the very same rook before considerately keeping his arms down to allow Rodney Hood to hit a floater over him in the lane. Although, KLove wasn’t alone in his misery, as the Cavs suffered through six and a half minutes of nearly basket-free play (the only bucket, ironically, was a layup by Kyrie). Meanwhile, Mack and Hood helped Utah push the lead out to as much as six before Delly hit a floater to close the scoring for the half. Jazz led 48-44.
There’ll Be Some Changes Made
Coming out of halftime, the hope was that Ty Lue had exhorted his troops to change the way they were livin’ today, but unfortunately, they continued to brick away from the perimeter, while allowing the Jazz guards to torch them mercilessly. Then, suddenly, Love was finally in the air. Kev knocked down a trey from the top of the key, then followed it up with a fadeaway, a nifty hook shot and a second triple. He almost had another one too, but was called for offensive goaltending. Kyrie, on the other hand, just couldn’t seem to get his style straight on the offensive end (in addition to going 1-9 from three, he was also a rim-rattling 7-23 from the field in general)… but he did wind up with a rare defensive highlight with a terrific block on Mack.
This, along with a technical foul call on J.R., seemed to galvanize the Cavs defensively, and they tightened the screws on the Jazz over the final three minutes of the quarter. Channing Frye and LBJ then nailed back-to-back threes to finally give the Cavs their first lead in a while… which lasted until Favors rumbled down the lane for a jam to tie the score… 66 all after three.
Some Of These Days
When Delly hit a trey to start the final frame, it seemed like maybe just one of those days for the Cavs would turn into some of these days that we’ve seen lately from downtown. This thinking was flawed though, as Utah went on a three point fueled 20-6 run of their own, during which everyone but Quin Snyder seemingly drained one from deep. Trey Lyles hit two, Shelvin Mack hit one, Raul Neto almost did, and even Joe Ingles knocked one down. Meanwhile, the Cavs couldn’t buy a three-ball, bricking away at a 2-16 clip for the quarter (10-42 for the game). The Jazz pushed their lead out to double digits… and then the fireworks started.
After You’ve Gone
Nobody likes a sharp elbow to the groin… so it was hard to blame Channing Frye for his reaction to a rookie getting overly exuberant around his nether region. Things boiled over, and Frye (who had apparently already been elbowed in the jewels once earlier by Lyles), had had enough. Channing entered into an odd sort of mountain goat head-ramming session with Lyles, then appeared to take a half-hearted swing at the rookie as they were separated.
Cavaliers' Channing Frye goes forehead-to-forehead w/ Jazz's Trey Lyles & takes swing after below-the-belt elbow pic.twitter.com/qmbj50Wxdj
— Ben Golliver (@BenGolliver) March 15, 2016
Naturally, the officiating crew needed umpteen viewings of the events, and 11 minutes of real time, to finally come to the conclusion that they needed to throw both parties out of the game (Frye because he was assessed his second technical, and Lyles for a Flagrant 2 crotch elbowing). The weirdest part though, had to be that since Frye was ejected before he could shoot his free throws for the flagrant foul, Jazz coach Quin Snyder was (by rule) free to pick a Cavalier of his choosing to toe the line. Paging Sasha Kaun… The Russian’s cringe-worthy free throw form still allowed him to somehow split the pair, and gave him the strangest line of one point in zero minutes.
Going Home Now
A J.R. triple and LBJ drive helped the Cavs get as close as seven points with about two minutes remaining, but the Cavs simply ran out of gas in this one. Oddly, Coach Lue kept his starters on the floor until the bitter end of things. Instead of heading home with a 4-0 clean sweep on this trip west, they’ve got a little bit of a limp in their tired legs. Jazz win 94-85.
The Evil:
- The Cavs decided to be content with jacking up 42 attempts from three against the Jazz. Hard to know if that was holdover confidence from their hot shooting swing through L.A., a general apprehension for Utah’s long-armed front line, or just the weariness of playing the second night of a back-to-back in the rarified air of Salt Lake City. It was probably a combination of the three, but since they only connected on 10 of them for 24%, maybe they should have tried to move the ball or run some plays occasionally.
- Speaking of moving the ball, the Cavs dropped only 18 dimes, as they spent much of their time in isolation ball or bricking away from the outside.
- The shooting in general was horrifying, but the standouts included Kyrie (7-23, 1-9 from three), J.R. (2-12, 1-8 from downtown), and Kevin Love (4-11, 2-7 from beyond the arc). The Cavs can win when one or two of these guys aren’t hitting, but not all three typically. Even Delly wasn’t his sharpshooting self, going just 1-5 from three.
- At least KLove and LBJ hit the glass, because TT and Moz sure didn’t. The two Centers combined for just six boards (and nine points) in 36 total minutes, as the Cavs wound up going small for large portions of the game against Utah’s formidable front line.
- Weirdly, even though the Cavs went with a fair amount of small ball, they weren’t really able to push the pace much against the Jazz. Again, this was probably due to tired legs, but they seemingly played into Utah’s gameplan by not speeding the game up.
- Defensively, the Cavs guards got torched by Hood and Mack, and the big men behind them didn’t really help much with their rotations to seal off the paint.
- Utah’s leading scorer and star, Gordon Hayward, didn’t even play, but the Jazz still handled the Cavs surprisingly easily. Road weariness aside, losing to teams without their best players is becoming a habit for the wine & gold.
The Genius:
- LeBron was the only Cav (except Delly at +2) in the positive column this game, with a +6. It wasn’t his best game, since he clearly ran down in the second half, but he still managed 23 points on 10-20 shooting, with 12 boards. He only had three assists, but given the sheer number of missed threes, it’s understandable.
- Kevin Love did turn things around from his awful first half, going 4-7 in the second half and pulling down nine rebounds. He kept the Cavs in the game in the third quarter, and kept fighting hard in the post, even though he was overmatched size-wise.
- Channing Frye, of all people, showed some fight and a refusal to back down when he tussled with Trey Lyles. After the game, LeBron said he loved seeing that from the veteran.
- This…
Kyrie is back on the Jazz floor getting up extra shots after the game as he does occasionally. Cavs aren't flying out until tomorrow.
— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) March 15, 2016
Parting Shot:
Despite this pot hole at the end of the road for the Cavs, a 3-1 swing out west (even against the opponents they faced) is still a pretty good result. Thankfully, there are only three more back-to-backs the rest of the season, and hopefully Coach Lue will start finding some rest for his starters to prep them for the post-season ahead. Utah is always a tough place to end a journey, and the Cavs didn’t lose any ground to the Toronto Raptors, who got edged by the Bulls last night as well. The Cavaliers have a day off to rest before they face the Mavs on Wednesday. Let’s hope they can recuperated and forget about All That Jazz for a while…
Great recap EG. I was making excuses for them last last night. It was a tough game schedule wise. Still hope they make it to 60 wins.
Thanks! I had a feeling it was going to be a grind for them…
So so glad I skipped this one. I knew the Cavs were gonna mail it in. Thanks for an awesome recap though, EG. I wish that Lue had just sat the big three and started McRae or something. Would’ve been better off.
Except they didn’t mail it in. They played well and hard just clanked everything.
You set the bar pretty low huh?
That message was directed to Cols.
I said on the thread last night, that game was on Lue completely…. should’ve sat the big 3 or limited them to 25minutes maximum…
Then Lue left Love and LBJ on the bench WAAAAAYYYY too long in the beginning of the 4th quarter, and the Utah lead blew up to 12. Then Lue left the big 3 on the court WAAAAAAAYYYY too long at the end of the 4th quarter…. such amateur moves on both accounts.
Yeah, he probably should have rested at least one or two guys…
Celtics lose tonight and Nets win. Fabulous hoops night.
They’re tied with Miami, but hold the tie breaker.
Anything that hurts their draft prospects is awesome…
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Much Danger Ninja! Never did get a chance to buy a Cavs Cunningham jersey… might have to spring for a Bucks one if he catches on…
Apparently Jared Dudley stated that if you take LeBron off the Cavs they are not a playoff team. Well, if you put Jared Dudley on the Wizards they are not a playoff team.
Jared Dudley is correct.
I am too.
Jared Dudley is correct because Love would not want to be here if LeBron was gone. He’d be demanding a trade immediately and never would’ve re-upped without Leb.
Now, I do think a team of Kyrie and Love can get to the playoffs. But without Leb we have no Love, we have no JR, no Shump, no Jefferson, no Frye, etc.
We’d be watching Irving and Bennett and Tyreke Evans 2.0 trying to win 25 games.
Huh?!?!?! I’m saying remove just LeBron from this team, not all these other players.
That’s not how it works. Players don’t want to be in Cleveland. Remove LeBron from this equation and we are stuck with whoever we draft.
Well Love is signed for 4 years. So is Shump. So is TT. So is Kyrie. Whether or not they want to be here is irrelevant. And we are talking about hypotheticals here.
So if lebron got injured before the season? Yeah the Cavs make the playoffs. As a 6-8 seed.
And if you believe he is correct, then why are you so adamant on keeping Love?
Because trading a star like Love for some bench players has never ever ever worked out in the NBA. Keep the star and keep working at it. People keep acting like this Cavs team is some disaster. Meanwhile they have one of the best offenses in the entire NBA, and we’ve seen what happens to their defense once the playoffs begin. They are on pace for 58-60 wins and are easily the best team in the East and will only have to beat one of OKC, GSW, or SAS for the title. They’ve shown they can handle the Thunder and… Read more »
Cols those “bench” plakyers have the Celtics in the playoffs. Dont get me wrong, I’m not advocating trading KLove but this argument is ridiculous.
Not a ridiculous argument IMO. This is the NBA, and I don’t understand why people seem to forget that. Stars when championships. Period. Trading Love for role players is an asinine idea, plain and simple.
win* <– good lord, it's too early lol
Unless you think the guy they’re trading for is a star (I’m looking at you, Jae Crowder).
In other news… how is anything Jared Dudley says credible?
Never said he was. He likes to run his mouth, because he wants a broadcasting career after he’s done in the NBA.
I wasn’t trying to be critical of you Arch… just wondering aloud why anyone would care what Dudley has to say…
I hear ya! Sorry, didn’t mean to come across as defensive.
Dudley has been regularly on popular NBA podcasts for years, I am not a big fan of his but clearly people in the media care what he has to say and assume listeners do as well. With all due respect EG “who care what that guy says” could apply to 99.999% of Internet content.
That’s true… who cares what anyone says? It’s just noise in the end. Just another example of a minor NBA player who is desperate to draw attention to himself for his second career… I’m sure Dudley will be the second coming of Jalen Rose… and the world will be a better place for it… /s
Cavs are what 3-13 without Lebron since last season? Given Kyrie and Shump are injury prone I don’t think Dudley said anything crazy. Lots of people say lots of dumber things on the mothership and elsewhere all the time.
But you can’t look at that record and apply it to a team without LeBron. The team would play differently. And that 3-13, doesn’t include Kyrie and Love for some of those games.
It’s not crazy to say… just what’s the point of him saying it, other than to garner unwarranted attention? How about focus on your own struggle to make the playoffs, Jared…
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zmayxzg
That’s a terrible trade for the Cavs.
They give us +2 wins. I think it would be a steal.
Nope.
Kevin Love doesn’t fit here. LeBron is better at the 4.
Nope. Kevin Love fits just fine. He’s clanking things right now, but he’s still rebounding and passing at a nice level.
You do not trade stars for garbage. It has never worked in the history of the NBA.
They’re not garbage. They are solid rotation players. Kyrie, Love, and Bron don’t maximize each others talents IMO. Maybe they could figure it out, but I don’t see it.
Garbage. The Celtics are getting the best player in that deal.
The best player that, according to you, would not help get the Cavs into the playoffs if LeBron wasn’t on the team.
It’s a garbage trade and would never happen. No GM in the history of the NBA would make that deal, because it’s pure garbage.
There may not be a bigger Roy Scheider fan than me, but I strangely haven’t seen that one.
I was out of town for this one, and forgot to set the dvr (probably mercifully….I probably wouldn’t watch that one even if I had set it). Thanks for the video highlights, EG. I was expecting that one to be a loss, just wish Lue would have rested guys and thrown that one on the scheduled loss column.
ATJ is definitely an acquired taste, but well worth seeing if you haven’t… Scheider was one of the most underrated actors of his generation I think…
I knew this whole twitter thing was going to take Nate and Mallory away from the comment sections.
You should join Twitter.
DId you not catch my orangutan with a loaded gun discussion a couple weeks ago, Arch?
No, I guess I missed it.
LOL… it was more in response to Cols wanting me to show him how to post pics and video in the comments section, but Twitter probably also applies…
Gotcha!
Then again… both of them could probably play on some NBA squads already…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTGUilXRpTg&feature=youtu.be
If I was Bron… I’d probably cut off Bryce’s allowance…
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/709617088898277378
No respect for dads anymore. I won’t let my son get a Curry jersey. You have to have your limits
Good. My son wore his LeBron jersey today. I told him the Cavs lost and he said it doesn’t matter, they beat the Clippers and his shirt was clean.
Selling my son on Lebron and the Cavs is not hard it is the rest of Cleveland sport teams that I feel is selling him junk. Not his fault I was born and raised in Northeast Ohio! Need a championship to get him to feel it is was all worth it, lol
Just don’t make him a Browns fan.
That’s a great quote!
Random jersey note – recently got back from a family trip to DisneyWorld. Plenty of Cavs gear out there tho surprisingly the Kyrie jersey was about 3:1 to Lebron. I’d also say I saw far more Cavs swag than any other team, tho that might be because it easily caught my eye due to bias.
Savannah needs to sit those boys down and let those boys know who their hero should be. I’m gonna go watch 310 to Yuma.
I think Lue needs to rest Love in the second game of a back-to-back from here on out. He looks noticeably slower when he’s tired, and when he’s tired he isn’t going to make shots (since he’s not making them consistently anyways). Why not make sure he’s ready to go in the playoffs? And honestly, I wouldn’t mind us going on a big time hot streak and opening up a larger lead on Toronto. I don’t want to lose home court throughout the Eastern Conference Playoffs, but I also don’t want to be playing LeBron full minutes the last few… Read more »
Good points. I wonder if the #1 seed even matters?
It always matters, at least to some extent. Imagine someone major gets banged up during the series, and instead of winning in 5, it goes 7, and you’re playing on the road? You never know what’s going to happen.
As far as any series we play in the East goes, so long as nothing crazy happens, then it doesn’t matter much. But still, no reason not to ensure we get the #1 seed just in case.
Well, at least there’s only three of them left… one this weekend in Florida…
Glad at least the Raps are stumbling pretty much when the Cavs do… Some may not agree, but I’d just assume the Cavs not have to play a game 5 or 7 in the North…
I love all the videos in the recap
Windhorst: Mozgov’s issues defensively are affecting the whole team.
Yep. He’s been terrible. It’s time to remove him from the lineup. Just give his minutes to Frye.
I wish he would just get physical instead of trying to block without fouling. Him fouling out would not hurt us as long his fouls were purposeful and puts had to be earned at the line. Get fired up!
Yeah, he’s pretty soft for a 7-footer.
I think he just stinks and lost what little explosiveness he had with the knee injury. Maybe he gets it back, but apparaentl y not this yea.r
Agree with this. I don’t think he’s fully back from the knee surgery. Hopefully he can get back into form for his own career’s sake. He was really really good for us last season, not just down low but also hitting jumpers for us. He’s got a pretty good stroke from mid-range.
They need a team field trip to the Brew Garden…
Or Beer Camp with Cols. Wait?!?! That might be a bad idea.
Moz couldn’t hang at beer camp. And how would we move him once he passed out?
I’m sure he could hang. He’s Russian. They drink Vodka with Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.
I don’t know. Beer Camp is expert level only.
I don’t think anyone on the team could hang actually.
JR Smith could.
Windhorst: I think the Warriors are starting to show some cracks. Draymond Green has fallen off. They are getting injured. #Cavs
It’s true. Green has sucked lately (thank goodness I lost that bet with EG so I can say suck again) and they’ve had to play playoff level intensity to win post all-star break.
I agree… because I’m really enjoying this Hard Wired coffee porter, and it would have been a shame to have had to ship it to you… ;)
Did you really get some? I think it’s my favorite new porter of the year.
Of course! I’m a man of my word… and you really looked like you were going to make it…
I think the Warriors’ pursuit of the best regular season of all time could hurt them come playoff time. It’s simply hard to keep up that level of intensity night in and night out for a full season, and then bring that intensity throughout the playoffs too
I don’t expect them to fall short of the NBA Finals, but hopefully they are still going for the record in game 82, while the Cavs are resting their players down the stretch.
Thanks Evil for the entertaining recap! Despite the loss they displayed more heart and energy than other disappoint losses. Lots of positives from the road trip. Jazz needed this to stay alive for playoffs and we simply want the playoffs to start.
Thanks Gregg! The synapses were firing in a bizarre direction on this one…
I also think that people who were saying that LeBron had lost a step or his explosiveness is gone needs to watch those two ooops from JR the last two games and see how high up LeBron gets. Dude is going to age really well.
Maybe we need to put an explosiveness clause in his next contract? In case he does decline.
I like this. If I were the Cavs lawyer it would be something like “Park yourself down at the 4 spot and surrender your Twitter password.”
One of my new favorite stats that I am going to start pimping against LBJ haters is that he is shooting .560 on 2’s this year, which is third highest of his career, behind only those two crazy Miami seasons. He has been great on O all year. The only downside has been his weak 3s. Can’t wait to see him in playoff mode.
Yep. And his threes are coming around. Dude just looks primed for a great playoff run.
I love how Arch Stanton can’t admit his favorite player Delly has been terrible at defense post All-Star break. Maybe the Cavs need to put a weight clause in his next contract.
Not that Delly was the reason we lost the game. We lost because despite good ball movement and LeBron playing well, no one else could hit a freaking shot.
Agree with you there. We couldn’t hit any shots. But they also had some defensive lapses. I think Lue could’ve done a better job with the rotations to counter Utah’s guards.
James played well for one quarter. He was 5-14 shooting after the first quarter. Three assists, three turnovers on the night.
I never said that Delly played good defense. And I noted last night that he wasn’t having a great night. So you are wrong there Cols. Like I stated below, Hood and Mack scored 45 points. Are you going to put that all on Delly, even though Delly played 23 minutes, while Kyrie had 34 min and JR had 29????
Also the half that I watched had lots of ball movement for those who care about that sort of thing. Just couldn’t hit wide open shots. And Delly couldn’t defend anyone.
Neither could Kyrie.
Actually his defense wasn’t awful.
He tried hard. But he still got torched. So did J.R.
Or Love, or J.R.
Nah, Love and JR weren’t the problem on defense. They, plus Kyrie, were the culprits on offense though.
Nope. Our guards got handled. Love was put into some vines.
Hood and Mack combined for 45 points. You can’t put that all on Delly.
The passing was beautiful. If we keep this up, we’ll be unstoppable (except for nights where we can’t hit shots haha).
Maybe this is what Barkley is getting at with his hate for jump shooting teams. Some nights it’s Golden (State) and others it’s turrrrrible…
Kyrie shooting 7-23, with 3 assists, zero FT attempts, and a team worst -17. Embarrassing for him.
Embarassing seems harsh. I thought he played really hard on both ends. He set up guys, but no one made a shot. And he couldn’t buy a shot himself.
Yep.
You’re right, embarrassing is harsh. Terrible is probably a better word. I’m glad he was overpassing in the first half, though.
Ugly game, but I do agree that they did fight pretty hard defensively. As EG noted, LeBron, Delly, and Kaun were all in the plus. But I wouldn’t really count Kaun since he played like 30 seconds. Shump was at +0. I’d like to see Shump be inserted back into the starting line up. I think the starters need more defensive presence.
For who? JR has played really well since January and has defended well too. Shump’s injury history is sort of concerning for reinsertion into the starting lineup too. Could disrupt the flow of the unit if he were reinserted and got hurt again. An injury would be much easier to overcome if he came off the bench.
That’s the lineup they ran with last year and it seemed to work pretty well. Plus Shump is starting to hit 3’s better lately. I’m not saying it’s the permanent solution. But with Moz struggling, and Kyrie and Love not great defenders, it’s probably a good idea to try Shump at the two again.
Nope. JR has been a top 10 SG. Even according to Nate. You don’t bench that.
Shump is our best defender. You have to play both sides of the ball. Shump can help cover up Kyrie’s defensive lapses.
JR has been a good enough defender this year and his offense has been great. Don’t mess with that. Shump is fine off the bench. He has been playing some great defense lately. And actually hitting some threes. But he’s no JR on the offensive end.
I love JR but the lineup does not feel balanced. Moz is not the same as last year. Our line up seems to offensive oriented. When they are hitting shots, it covers up a lot of their problems. When they don’t like last night, you see what happens. Ideally, they should probably take Love out of the starting line up and have a 3 guard line up with Kyrie, JR, and Shump, then LeBron and TT.
Nah. Tak moz out of the starting lineup. He’s awful.
I’d be willing to even have Love at center. As long as Shump is in the starting line up.
I don’t think Love is big enough to be a center. But anything to get Moz out of the lineup.
No, he’s not. But having Shump would help.
Agree with Merkaderka. I don’t think moving JR to the bench is a smart move. He’s been fantastic this year. Why mess with a guy’s psyche? Shump can’t shoot. And I don’t really know why people are obsessed (not saying anyone here is) with the “put player A in the starting lineup” noise. You can play a guy X number of minutes without him being a starter.
Well it worked well last year. And I think Shump shoots better with the starters in the line up because he gets better wide open looks. Shump is our best perimeter defender. JR can be decent at times, but he’s not nearly as good as Shump. Our starting line up is too offensive oriented. If guys aren’t hitting shots we get torn up. The starting line up needs some balance. Got to play both sides of the ball.
Actually, I forgot about Kaun… since he technically didn’t play even a minute… LOL
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That stat though…. Complete trash Speaking of which , garbage truck just pulled up the drive.
Me: “Hey, throw this in there too , Dude” Kyrie (7-23, 1-9 from three) .R. (2-12, 1-8 from downtown), and Kevin Love (4-11, 2-7 from beyond the arc
Trash Man: “That’s extra smelly, need another dumpster for that”
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Really glad to see that NOMAD caps lock in the new format!
Man I was terrified we scared NOMAD off with the new format. Like, ready to blow the whole thing up. Whew. Glad you are back. Those national parls in Utah are my favorite places on earth.
Cols nailed it. I watched the game and was never really annoyed because they played hard and played good D generally. They just shot absolutely HORRIBLY. And they were mostly good lucks (except for a few JR specials). One of those nights. And Utah is 6th in Defensive efficiency since 1/1/16.
Luckily Raps lost.
Does anyone remember the Sundiata Gains game? I haven’t stayed up to watch a Utah game since then.
Oh man… I try really hard to forget that one…
yep. LeBron led a magnificent comeback in the second half but it was the ultimate scrub-fuego. Gaines got up on the table afterwards and crowd showered him with disproportionate praise.
Most definitely.
Sounds like the played hard and got a ton of open looks but just couldn’t shoot.