Recap: Cavs 104, Hawks 93 (Or, Canadian Dynamite Hands Out Mulligans)
2016-05-03The Cavaliers remained unbeaten against the Hawks and in these 2016 Playoffs. LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, and Tristan Thompson led the Cavaliers to an uneven win over their growing playoff rival. Let’s get to it.
1st Quarter:
The Cavaliers began the game with some beautiful horn action that has become increasingly utilized in recent weeks. LeBron ran point while Kyrie set up on the right elbow and Tristan on the left. After making the entry pass to TT, LeBron crossed to set a soft screen for Irving. Kyrie high looped around the screen and picked up the dribble hand-off from Tristan, effectively picking up a second screen. Kyrie didn’t settle for the jumper with Teague on his hip and Millsap couldn’t risk helping off Love in the short corner. The Cavs have started almost every game this season with a Kyrie side pick-and-roll to get him a right wing 20 footer. Starting the game with a layup was a pleasant surprise. On the defensive end, the Cavs made it clear that Korver was their top priority. The Hawks got on the board when Kent Bazemore made a perfectly timed baseline cut with LeBron and J.R. in between switch action on Korver. As many of us anticipated, Love started the game on Horford which left Tristan to torment Paul Millsap.
The Cavs went right back to the same offensive set, this time passing out of it quickly to start J.R. Swish’s night from the left wing. J.R. could have stopped right there and still had more field goal makes than Kyle Korver. Both teams were feeling each other out, running sets more to see how the other team would react than necessarily flying through action. Kent Bazemore was allowed to roam free with the focus on Korver.
Action picked up when a dominating Tristan Thompson back-tapped an offensive rebound that eventually found its way to James for a right-wing three. The King immediately annoyed most Cavs fans with a “heat-check, I need a couch because I’m leaning so far to the left, I’ll show Brian Windhorst what a great outside shooter I am” bomb from the same spot on the floor the following possession. He missed. Kyrie didn’t. A rainbow from 25 feet late in the shot-clock found only nylon. J.R. fired a sweet cross-court pass to Irving in transition for a “Oh no, OH YES” three that forced Atlanta to call timeout trailing 16-8 with 7:41 remaining.
The defense swarmed early with great power and quick help execution. Love and Tristan were both solid in their post defense, forcing Horford to shoot over them far from their spots. The refs must have not believed in the good defense. Millsap flopped his way into an early foul that gave Lue a chance to sub Shump in for LeBron at the 4:16 mark. Kyrie was whistled for his second foul trying to navigate around screen shortly after. When Love checked out for Channing Frye with 1:44 remaining, fans mumbled to themselves about playing lineups without any member of the big three. A superbly executed out-of-bounds play that ended with a J.R. to TT alley-oop mitigated some of the fan worry. It also just made me laugh. Apparently J.R can throw perfect alley-oops to anyone not named LeBron. Or maybe Bron really does ask him to make it interesting.
Dennis Schröder got his first layup of the evening as he blew by Mathew Dellavedova. That part is to be expected. Schröder can get by almost anyone. What was disappointing was Shump’s decision to stick on Bazemore in the far corner instead of properly executing his crash down. Still, the Cavaliers closed the quarter well with another insanely quick catch and release three from Smith and a Channing Frye transition bomb. In all, the Cavs hit six first quarter threes and didn’t commit a single turnover. After one, 30-19 Cavs.
2nd Quarter:
Delly, Shump, RJ, LeBron, and Frye began the second period. Fans gleefully watched Delly dish a perfect lookaway dime to LeBron off of unstoppable pick and roll action. Delly continued the goodness when he spotted a Hawks switch that left Schröder on Channing Frye. Mathew sent the rock over to RJ who made the high/low pass to beat the Hawks post-front. Frye immediately kicked it to the far corner starting the ping-pong around the horn that ended with RJ drilling a dead-on three. Basketball!!!
The Cavs stuck to their defensive gameplan of allowing Dennis Schröder to shoot uncontested shots from deep. He dropped a left-wing three to answer Jefferson’s with no one within 10 feet of him.
Strangely, LeBron decided to stop rolling. The Delly/LeBron PnR which has shown itself to be unstoppable, was abandoned by LeBron. Lue apparently thought that that was Delly’s fault and Kyrie re-entered the game at 8:29.
The referees started their slow decent into ineptitude. Millsap was rewarded with two more cheap fouls, though the Hawks were called for a couple as well. The game came to a screeching halt with five whistles in three possessions. A Jefferson deep ball from the right corner fired up the fans before another weak cheapie on Love sent Teague to the stripe. Then LeMagic saved the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmBVeRH5u9U
LeBron dropped shots around the paint, but Kyrie could have hit him earlier coming out off screens. Irving waited a couple beats too long which allowed the defense time to recover. LeBron still converted, but those should have been catch and shoot layups. Dennis Schröder and Kent Bazemore helped keep the Hawks in shouting distance as the teams traded makes and misses. Another ridiculous foul was called against Dellavedova when he was in legal defensive position. The crowd was rightfully testy. The half closed with a wimper with neither team getting a decent shot attempt. 51-41 Cavs.
3rd Quarter:
J.R. Swish came out firing to push the lead back up to 13. After the first one, dropped off of good action, the Cavs offense began to stagnate. All momentum was stopped when J.R. dropped Millsap with a high elbow. Honestly, I’m just happy the ridiculous referees didn’t throw him out. They were in the process of calling one of the worst, most inconsistent games I have seen. It wouldn’t have shocked me if they had decided to eject J.R. on what should have been deemed a common foul. If we want to call all head contact a Flagrant-1, then fine(awful), but make that more clear. The way the rules are written now, one could argue that all contact above the neck is a flagrant. Clearly the NBA doesn’t call it that way, and for good reason. In this particular case, J.R.’s initial contact with Millsap was around the shoulder and then slid up as Millsap raised his own arm. Was it a foul? Absolutely. Was it a flagrant? Fine, if you want to be modern about it. Again, for a good two minutes, I was worried J.R. was going to get completely hosed. Glad he didn’t. The basketball gods agreed with me and Millsap missed both freebies.
Millsap began to make things interesting with a great steal and finish to cut the lead to nine. A quick timeout from Lue was followed by LeBron bully-ball against Bazemore to restore the lead to double digits. The next few minutes of game action featured sloppy ball-handling from both teams and limited player movement. LeBron was beaten backdoor by Bazemore again with the Cavs in chill mode. Fortunately Tristan was still working hard. A huge offensive board led to a left corner three from Kevin Love. Tristan followed that by shutting Jeff Teague down in a one-on-one situation. Mike Scott had a nasty throw down past LeBron, but James quickly atoned for the nap by dishing to Kevin for another left wing triple. Then came the highlight of the night to push the lead to 72-54.
The Hawks were down 18 with four minutes to go in the quarter. The crowd and the Cavs thought the game was over. Atlanta, and more specifically Dennis Schröder did not. A three from Mike Scott and a flurry of Schröder slow-motion jumpers and lightening fast drives quickly cut into the Cavalier lead. A Frye foot on the line two(ruled a three, but later reversed) helped the Cavs regain their balance, but the onslaught continued with a Bazemore three. The 16-2 run left the Cavs clinging to a 74-70 lead after three.
4th Quarter:
The now customary “second unit” of Delly, Shump, RJ, Bron, and Frye looked to restore order. Iman Shumpert made a nice drive to the cup to push the lead back to six. Once again, LeBron simply refused to roll on the PnR with Delly. Instead he stood there, looking to catch at 20 feet for no reason. It was infuriating. Frye bailed out the possession with a shot fake that netted him three shots from the charity stripe. The lead was back to nine when Schröder politely reminded people that he is not Rajon Rondo by drilling another uncontested three. LeBron played his worst stretch of playoff basketball making sloppy passes and lazily floating around the court.
The referees displayed their ineptitude again by inexplicably rewarding Kyle Korver with three free throws after Iman Shumpert clearly fouled Paul Millsap. There is no excuse for this. Shump ran through the screen and made zero contact with Korver. After a lengthy review, they came to a blatantly wrong conclusion that gave Korver his only three points of the night.
A chance to regain momentum was lost when Kevin Love got rejected in transition because he hates using his left hand. Shortly after, Dennis threw a perfect alley to Horford’s oop to give Atlanta its first lead of the night.
The next four minutes featured a bit of Kyrie/Dennis duel, zero energy and/or smarts from LeBron and a slew of home run swings from both teams. J.R. came to the rescue with huge three to give the Cavs the lead at 90-88.
The Cavs would never look back. Love drew a foul on corner three ball that yielded two points. The defining possession of the game started at 3:10 with a LeBron steal and didn’t end until a full minute later with a LeBron And-1. In between, Tristan collected his fourth offensive board, LeBron took an ill-advised deep jumper, J.R. Smith made a great save for an offensive rebound, and Kryie found a “better late than never” rolling LeBron. Amazingly, it was the first and only foul shot of the night for The King.
LeBron made another great anticipation steal that should have resulted in a trip to the line, but apparently getting hit in the head wasn’t a flagrant or common foul in this situation. LeBron milked the slight, not getting back on defense for an eternity. Fortunately, the other four Cavaliers stopped the initial attack and LeBron barely made it back in time to alter Schröder’s three. Horford held Love on the rebound attempt and Love drilled the foul shots to go ahead by nine. LeBron’s spinning layup and Kyrie’s awesome block on Schröder sealed the deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0zErLyyaJY
Thoughts:
The Cavaliers coasted through much of this game. And by Cavaliers, I mean LeBron James. He did a great job in stretches, but his curious abandonment of the roll in this game was frustrating. It’s really almost as if he just wanted to be a contrarian to Windy’s article. Other than a few possessions, he neutered the Delly/Bron PnR. The defense didn’t stop it.
The defensive attention and execution of the gameplan was very successful. The Cavs came into the game determined to shut down Kyle Korver. They were masterful. Korver only had one attempt and the three points he scored from the line shouldn’t have happened. The Cavs played on the high side of the all Korver-centric picks and switched when appropriate. It led to some open shots from Bazemore, but that is by design. (The ones that were a result of LeBron’s naps were not by design.) Tristan and Love were tasked with guarding Millsap and Horford straight up. They both did phenomenal work knocking the Hawks off their preferred spots. The gameplan also instructed the guards to go under all picks involving Schröder and Teague. Dennis made five of 10 from beyond the arc. The Cavs should think about a soft contest, but they should continue to go under those picks. It is the lesser of two evils. Schröder makes his living off dribble drives.
Okay, Schröder. Tom and I have had a long running debate/joke about Dennis. This might be the first time that Tom has seen Schröder perform well. I don’t expect Dennis to make five threes a game going forward, but he is far more like a young Tony Parker than he is a young Rajon Rondo. There are many reasons why guys have poor shooting percentages. For Dennis, it is more about shot selection and lower body balance. His actual shooting form and release are quite solid. He has the potential to be a great shooter and will likely develop into a good one. That being said, he is most lethal as a driver, where he can slither either direction with ease. Like Parker, it is still better to make him a shooter.
Kevin Love struggled mightily with his shot, but came up big on the defensive end. His two left corner threes were huge. I’m glad to hear his ankle tweak is fine.
There were stretches of the game where Tristan Thompson was the most dominating force on the floor. He continues to straight own Paul Millsap. He grabbed seven more offensive rebounds against the Hawks. His constant activity makes it very difficult for Millsap to be the premier help defender that he can be.
Ty Lue has got to be better with this minute distribution. The minutes he is giving to his bench are too often all at the same time. It worked in the first half. Not so much in the second half. Getting Kyrie a blow earlier in the third quarter should be a priority going forward. Until next time.
Republican party is a disaster
Ugh…Blazers will win one game…but it is insane that clippers are not the opponent. By the time they meet the Spurs curry will be back…two years of luck for golden state so far…wouldn’t be surprised if Aldridge got injured in the next couple games
I thought the Clippers *might* even be able to beat them with Curry out some games (but probably not)….but with no Griffin and CP, of course, no chance.
Well, at least the Warriors got pushed a little. There is a chink in that armor.
Turn out the lights…
Effing clear foul on Thompson and no call…100% biased Reffing from the end of the 3rd quarter on. Just replying the footage would prove it.
Do you mean that Lillard flail? That was no foul. It was a ridiculous flop.
Terrible attempt at drawing a BS foul there…GS has just flat outplayed them down the stretch.
Double expletive. Warriors have fouled themselves into this one…then started making shots. This feels like a bulls vs jazz game in the 90s…
Lillard has made plays in this game, but, god, he’s made some stupid plays…he needs to cut out the stupid mistakes if he wants to be considered a great player…
Expletive
So tired of this team…
Green Was late on that offensive foul…like crazy late. Dude has gotten away with evrything. He is like Dennis Rodman with One extra skill…and the refs love him. What does the league have to do to remind the refs he isn’t Michael Jordan?
He is on the Golden Child team atm, so he gets away with tons. It is what it is.
Please use max effort and lose this one, Dubs…
Ugh…warriors are so effing lucky the clips lost Griffin and Paul. Two years in a row they have lucked out on injured opponents…it’s getting silly
No argument there.
Starting to smell the foul stench of another Warriors win….
That was a bullcrap foul…plumlee was straight up. I am so annoyed that green has gathered a Lebron-esque rep. He doesn’t deserve half of it. He is a top 100 basketball player…h is not even close to a top 10 player…
I’m no fan of his, but I’d say he’s had a top 20 season this year at the minimum…and probably better than that. I agree that was a borderline call, though.
Blazers hanging tough…
Please don’t play stupid like this, Blazers…can’t afford these pointless turnovers.
Lollards. Wow! 17 points in the third quarter. I love the NBA playoffs.
Oh, thank you so much auto corrector…Lillard!
That was a great end to the third! Holy crap. I wil be so pissed when the Blazers lose this game
I thought the Blazers would lose for sure, and they still might, but Lillard has turned it on some….they might win.
I want these Blazers to destroy the Blazers this game. Unfortunately, curry should definitely come back too soon and ruin his team’s chances to repeat. If I’m Kerr I don’t let him play even if there’s a game 7
So I am clearly wrong…I want the Blazers to destroy the warriors
Absurd Klay shot answered by absurd Lillard shot…
It would be nice if the Cavs still had Shaun Livingston.
Yes.
I think the Warriors probably won’t lose a game at home the entire playoffs. (barring injury…but Curry is out now, and I doubt they are dropping a game at home to the Blazers)
This is the most fouls I’ve seen called on GSW in their building in a very long time…
Go Portland, go.
Andy is still such a clever basketball player…he makes a HUGE impact on a team’s bottom line…too bad he can’t shoot threes or he’d still be in Cleveland
You can’t spell “Hate” without “Heat”…
The rumors of DWade’s demise were greatly exaggerated…
Problem with DWade is how long can he hold up? Another 7 game series will be rough on him and Deng. Especially if they regularly go to OT.
Draymond just literally pulled a guy out of the air. I am SO SICK of him getting away with everything
Golden State = golden children. But ya, donkey wouldn’t be effective if he was actually called for fouls.
That half court heave was unbelievable!
Kyle Lowry must have heard me… WOW!
I thought he shot it way too high and then it just dropped in… WOW
It hit only twine!
Man… what happened to Kyle Lowry? I know he’s been dealing with injury, but he looks like a different player… in a bad way…
I think it’s entirely the injury. But who knows for sure.
http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/2603/why-ty-lues-game-1-plan-pained-kyrie-irving-yet-helped-the-cavs
I like that Lue is doing a great job coaching. The players are buying in, and more importantly, it’s working.
What worries me is that I’m not sure we can “let guys shoot” against GSW or SAS.
Game plan will change for different teams. I’m not smart enough to project what they will do to teams like SAS
JR is my spirit animal.
Shump should be renamed Dhump.
My theory for the LeBron ‘chill mode’ activation in the 3rd/4th was due to the ridiculous refereeing. It seemed to engage after that stupid JR flagrant foul. How LBJ only gets 1 FTA is beyond me.
I’m slowing climbing back aboard the Kyrie train – he just gets buckets.
Kevin Love ended up with a surprising line despite his shooting issues – good on him for the effort. I like games where he shoots this much even if they’re not connecting.
I also think LeBron was very tired. He’s been playing 40+ minutes. Right after the game when he was interviewed on the court, he said he was going to “go lay down.”
Does that mean you’ve sold the rights to http://www.tradekyrieirving.com? :)
Also, to speak to the idea that LeBron and Co. were sorta going through the motions, I think they were rusty after the days off. Of course it’s great to get rest but I think it is also understandable that they were a bit out of rhythm (Kyrie and Love both looked off on their shots). I suspect we see a more intense team in game 2.
I’ll pose a contrarian argument just to make us feel good. The Cavs managed to do things they hadn’t done in the regular season against the Pistons. Maybe Lue’s strategy was to gamble and try and sweep the Pistons and Hawks because it’s doable and then bust out new looks when necessary later. You could argue with all that extra practice time that when the Cavs finally need it they can return to Delly/TT and other new stuff when teams least expect it. Now this ignores the risk of not sweeping and running our guys out of gas as well… Read more »
As much as I liked to see the Delly/TT PnR during the regular season, I wonder how well and for how long that would work in a seven game series.
Bar has been raised on recaps again. Absolutely phenomenal depth. Great job guy.
Instead of replying to all the different discussions about minute distribution, I’ll just offer this: In the regular season the Cavs were SAS/GS-level Elite team with their best lineup: TT-Love-LeBron-J.R.-Delly. That lineup played a ton of minutes, as did the lineup with all of the above except Kyrie for Delly (the playoff starting lineup). So far the Cavs “Death lineup” has only seen 6 minutes of action. Remember Delly-oops? Delly and TT have barely played together. The Cavs are literally running 2 rotations right now: Half (116/240) of all minutes are going to the starters. An 8th is going to:… Read more »
UG. This post makes too much sense for comfort.
Your numbers back up what I thought I was watching. I kept wondering why we didn’t see Delly in with more starters, as well as the Delly and Kyrie together lineups we’ve seen , where Kyrie plays more of a shooting guard.
We’ve seen so little of the death lineup in the playoffs, I’d literally forgotten all about it.
Cavs do not have a deep team. We have incredible talent at the top, and then it falls drastically after the sixth guy.
Tom – basically agree with all of this. While I think the complaints about Lebron playing 40 minutes a night are off base, some of the lineup choices have certainly been odd and the lack of minutes for Delly or our best lineup is confusing. The minutes will work themselves out – if the Cavs play well and get a comfortable win the starters can sit at the end of the fourth. If the game are tight they are going to play a lot. Klay was at 40 and Draymond at 41 last night. Lillard and McCollum were both at… Read more »
We win by 11. James dominates the game and all people want to talk about is minutes and that LBJ didn’t play hard (which is crazy considering how often he went to the hoop and dove on the floor, etc.)
OK. I hate to see what happens once we finally lose a playoff game. ENJOY THE WIN
STOP REPEATING THE SAME POINTS
OK
Yea, the minute distribution is rough for the Cavs. This is not exactly a deep team. We really run Lebron into the ground, we’ll go as far as he goes. As playoffs progress, and we face better opponents with increasingly better benches, it will become more difficult to play our bench.
I wonder if the reason that Lue played the guys as much as he did wasn’t also partially due to the fact that they had eight days off between series? It’s obvious that he’s riding the starters anyway, but that may have also factored into his mindset…
If so, its a bad reason to do it. Will have to play two games in 3 nights, fly on day off, and then play 2 more in 3 nights. That’s not a whole lot of rest. Why overplay minutes at the beginning of a series? If you know you’re going to get a week off after a close out game, sure, overplay the starters to make sure you win. But game one? Its not like the week of rest can be saved up and sprinkled throughout the series. Even more to the point, the players seemed to get tired… Read more »
I don’t disagree… nor was I defending his choices. Just pointing out what might have entered into his thought process…
The ultimate importance of the bench/starters’ minutes issue: To have the best chance in the Finals, Lue needs to do better at blending in the bench guys so there isn’t a big dropoff in performance when they’re in, while also giving the starters enough rest so that they aren’t gassed in the fourth quarter.
The Spurs or Warriors will be tough enough to beat if the Cavs are at their best. If Lue doesn’t maximize what depth they have and wears down the starters, it will only be that much harder.
Really great recap Ben! Still humors me that Horford was an All-Star. Was a complete non-factor last night. Same with Millsap. They aren’t big-time players in the playoffs and deserve more criticism. People forget how much they completely folded last year too. Was also very impressed with Love’s defense in the game. Spot on the LeBron points. For whatever reason he entered regular season chill mode: overdribbling, stepback jumpers, inattentive defense, low percentage passes leading to turnovers. I was more surprised than pissed off (as i usually am with LeBron). Given how excellent and pleased i was with his first… Read more »
Last night, I think it was TNT Insider had Bogut’s interview. It was hilarious. He kept calling himself an asshole repeatedly to other opposing NBA players and he was more than fine with that title. I wish I could find the link.
Good recap, Ben… and thank you for using restraint with the Umlautted One…
I get the general consensus with regard to minutes and rotations, but it also might have looked a bit different if the Cavs had just stepped on the Hawks’ collective throats when they had them down 18 with about 5 mins to go in the third… My only complaint is that I’d love for them to have a bit more of a killer instinct when this happens. It would save them some energy in the long run…
That game shouldn’t have been as close as it was but I think they also didn’t expect Dennis Schroeder to will his team back into contention. Maybe that speaks more to the killer instinct you are talking about but the Cavs basically kept the Hawks at arms length for most of that game and pulled out a ten point lead after the game got close.
It wasn’t just Schroder though… they were letting Bazemore and Scott do damage as well…
I think that’s preferable to letting Milsap, Horford and Korver go to work though. Gotta give up something. Hard to hold a team to 0 pts.
Not sure I understand the complaints about the starters playing too many minutes. Every team is doing this now – it’s the playoffs. Aldridge played 43 last night. Durant went for 42, with Russ (and he was pulled for a stretch due to literally not passing the pall) and Adams at 37. PG13 went for 46 on Sunday, with Hill at 40 and Ellis at 37. Derozen went 40 for the Raps with Lowry and Carroll at 37. The Dubs, who famously play everyone, had Barnes at 38 with Klay and Green at 37. Lillard and McCollum went 41 and… Read more »
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Fatigue+causes+injuries+nba
Yes, but no one knows where that limit is yet. And SeanK is correct. No one was used a crazy amount of minutes for an NBA playoff game. Especially when they just had 7 days off and then an off day today.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cumulative+probability+curves
Minutes distribution as it relates to injury probability is something that requires a careers worth of data across multiple careers to draw any correlation between a specific number of minutes averaged that would result in a higher risk of injury. If the starters average five more minutes for for each game in the playoffs, it would not significantly effect their career minutes played enough to move their risk of injury up that curve. If you wanna argue that five more minutes per game makes the players significantly more tired in game which could lead to increase risk of injury, then… Read more »
Suck all the fun out of trolling Cols, why don’t you?
So who believes that Cavs lose series if Love or any other starter gets an extra 2 mins? It doesn’t make sense nor does refusing to give them a minute here or there. This team is good enough to get the win against the Hawks.
No one is particularly worried about getting past the Hawks. But optimal play and rotation now will lead to a higher likelihood of success in the Finals. We are not judging any play by its success against teams that are ultimately stepping stones. We are judging the Cavaliers on championship characteristics. If that quality is not exhibited now against inferior teams, it is hard to envision it in the future.
I have less an issue with the specific minutes as I do with the distribution. We have seen that Delly is a very effective player. We have seen that Frye is as well. Even a small alteration in rotation would yield better results. Honestly, I am fine with LeBron playing close to 40 minutes a night. I am not fine with Kyrie Irving playing more than 32 minutes or so. He just is not good enough to warrant massive minute loads. Considering his defensive limitations, he needs to be at full strength to even be serviceable on that end of… Read more »
Spurs fans might be the dirtiest worst fans in sports. They were holding Steven Adams (who was amazing on that last play) out of bounds after he jumped to contest the shot.
Cavs offense was very good last night. 104 points on 89 possessions, 1.17 PPP vs the 2nd best defense in the NBA
Still hard to believe Korver only got off one shot. I was at last night’s game and what was funny was coming out of almost every time-out, Korver was “practicing” his jump shot stroke coming out of the huddles. Seems like everyone must have been telling him to shoot, so he was imagining what it would be like. And he imagined the entire game. Tremendous lock down on him. As stated in the good summary, we’ll let Schroder fire way over Korver. I did think LeBron played at 85% for parts of the second half (particularly on defense but also… Read more »
We need those urls!
J.R.’s attention to Korver was outstanding
In the 4th quarter, I was having 2010-lebron-vs.-celtics flashbacks. He simply did not look engaged. As Ben noted he wasn’t rolling on picks, but it was beyond that. He would drive to the hole and either flip the ball up agnostically, or toss the ball outside without purpose- anything to avoid contact. He did his best Dion Waiters impersonation pounding the ball 30 feet away from the basket for 23 seconds on three straight possessions. He started reaching instead of rolling on defense. I hadn’t seen this from Lebron since early in the season. What happened? He got send to… Read more »
He had 60% TS!, He was 2-4 from 3 point land. He scored 25 points, grabbed a bunch of rebounds, got fouled a ton (no calls though), and dove all over the freaking floor.
Also, 5 steals.
For the whole game, yes Cols. But here was his 4Q production:
2-6 FG
3 reb
2 ast
2 TO
2 fouls
It’s not just the stats- it’s the way he played. The TOs and .333 FG% were indicative of his lack of aggressiveness; as were the fouls, where he was reaching instead of moving his body. It’s quite concerning.
Yeah but he had 5 steals in the game, many of them in the fourth at crucial points
I think LeBron dinged his back up late in the first half.
I wasn’t aware of that. That would help explain things. Not sure if that makes me feel better (that it’s not a mental issue) or worse (because Lebron is dinged up)
I have to disagree with you a bit, Ben. Thought Kyrie’s turnstile D in the late third early fourth was key to Atlanta’s comeback, and a much bigger deal than LeBron’s lackadaisical at times defense. Though LeBron refusing to roll and jacking up right wingers was maddening. And yeah, this minutes thing could be a problem. Also, the second units clearly haven’t practiced their sets together enough. No offensive flow there.
Kyrie certainly didn’t do anything defensively to stem the tide, but much of the damage during that stretch came off turnovers and gameplan dictated open threes. The Hawks also got the Cavs to switch a bit more on the top end leaving Love to attempt to guard Dennis. Their offensive stagnation and easy backdoor buckets allowed came from Bron. If Love hits a few more shots, it is a moot point, but for me, Kyrie was not the primary culprit. For once.
Second team offensive flow relies on Bron to roll. The dead horse is twitching.
Disagree. Defense improved when Kyrie stopped letting Dennis drive right and pushed him to his left hand. It was a simple adjustment that took ten minutes to make. Kyrie did get that block on a right side drive though.
I haven’t watched the replay yet, so I don’t know if TV showed LeBron bending Irving’s ear at least twice while Schroder was leading the comeback. KI has at least shown some flashed of better defense in the playoffs, but certainly lacks consistency. But I’ll take the improvement.
I agree Nate. I can’t count how many times I saw Kyrie on the ball handler and was immediately blown by and looking at the back of a jersey. Come to think of it, I can’t remember one time this entire year where I’ve seen him stay in front of his man and prevent penetration. Not once. He is an absolute turnstile.
The bench didn’t have one of their better games, which is why Lue was forced to play starters a bit more than usual. I don’t think this pattern will continue. 2nd unit will be back to their usual good play soon. And I agree with Ben it is best to not stick the bench crew in their all at once.
Overall, though, a solid win.
Yep. Delly, in particular was awful.
Give this line a rest. You are worse than the proverbial broken record. 4 assists in 13 minutes. If anything, Delly needed more burn. Are you watching these games on a 1960s fuzzy black and white tv?
He basically watches the games as if he’s watching sportscenter. He judges worthiness based on highlight-reel plays.
I think part of the bench problem is that they are getting quite irregular run. Delly, in particular, is a proven commodity in the playoffs and is better this year than last year. He should be getting more run, especially when the defense starts lagging.
LeBron and Kyrie are well below there free throw attempts averages despite LBJ going to the rim pretty much nonstop in the last 5 games.
I cannot get on board with this statement, “The Cavaliers coasted through much of this game. And by Cavaliers, I mean LeBron James. ”
LeBron went for 25 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, 5 steals and 1 block. While getting no calls anytime he was at the rim. That’s not coasting. If he actually got calls he’d would’ve had 30 easily.
Come on now.
When you are LeBron James, you can still get 25 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, 5 steals, 1 block, and no calls and still be coasting for large stretches. It’s testament to just how good he ACTUALLY is.
I’m amazed at Tristan’s conditioning. The guy might have the best stamina in the NBA. So much movement on defense and offense, pushing against guys and battling. These are strong, heavy people he is pushing up against and never seems to get tired. Dude is a monster.
Good job by Lue this game. The starters needed to play because the bench unit wasn’t doing much. Popovich, on the other hand, didn’t play his starters nearly enough and they ended up losing by a point. He should be taking ton of heat for this.
When even the Cav players (RJ)come out and say fatigue is a factor down the stretch; you have to pay attention. Cavs got beat in the Finals because of “Kerr’s famous lines of they only play 7!” Now, against these Hawks is the time to acclimate the adequate mins needed for starters and bench. It’s only going to get more difficult. Yes, you don’t have to throw them all out at the same time. 2 at a time and with a token starter of either Lebron or Kyrie preferably. I don’t understand Lue’s reluctance to do this.
To be fair, we had Kyrie and Love out last finals, so we were pretty much forced into playing only 7. However, I do agree with you. I feel like we barely even saw Shump and Frye was really effective last night, IMO. Delly should have gotten some run earlier and more often. The reason we got so demolished with our backups in was because Lue was trotting 4 of them out at once. I don’t know why he hasn’t been able to establish a more fluid rotation where 2 or 3 starters are always in. Maybe part of the… Read more »
We all expected Moz to get very little time in this series because of the lack of a traditional center on ATL, however Lue should have been prepared for this in a better way than by just saying “Well, we’ll play TT all game long.”
It’s going to backfire. Golden State is expecting this. Now is the time to take advantage of the opportunity. No way Cavs lose this series because 2 mins of rest was given to Love. Does anyone really believe that would happen?
I love the way TT is playing, I don’t think I am exaggerating when I say there are at least 3 games this postseason already where his 4Q offensive rebounding, defense and hustle closed the deal for the Cavs. He is indispensable to this team.
And precisely why we signed him for $82 million last off-season. Could you imagine if his scoring ability matched the other aspects of his game? Now that would be a terrifying player.
While I agree that Korver wasn’t fouled and it shouldn’t have been called so, I thought earlier in the season there was a play where it was determined that if the defender pushes the teammate into the shooter, the shooter gets the free throws. Am I remembering that wrong?
There was a play like that. There really isn’t anything in the book with that specifically but they do call it like that at times if a player blatantly shoves a guy into the shooter. Running through a designed screen should not qualify even under the broadest interpretation.
I don’t know that this is definitive but the dx in the below linked page from the NBA video rulebook “causes an off ball offensive player to make contact with an offensive player who is attempting a field goal attempt.” No mention of intention, and Korver’s foot got clipped on the shot attempt. Perhaps questionable on whether you mean to push a screener into the shooter but not a terrible call (unlike, say, our old friend Dion Waiters getting to arm bar Ginobli)
http://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/defensive-foul-defender-pushes-opponent-into-shooter/
Nice link, Mark. Ok. I suppose there is some wriggle room there. But I still do not see how contact caused from a screen(which is point of a screen) can lead to that call unless there is a specific push. I would ref it much in the way the they call offensive fouls. If there is an extension of the arm, then it would be considered an intent. If it is simple contact, then it should be a foul against the screener. I’m surprised there aren’t more flops into shooters if they are going to call it like this. Still,… Read more »
Great call on the minutes distribution. Most concerning thing of the night by far. And honestly, maybe the only concerning thing. If Schroder is taking 10 3’s every game and the Cavs are locking down Korver, this will be a quick series.
Nice recap.
Yep!! Good points!