The Point Four-ward: They Went Back to Ohio!
2016-06-15Four points I’m thinking about the Cleveland Cavaliers…
1.) For all of the deserved praised being heaped upon both LeBron James and Kyrie Irving for their dual 41-point games in a game in which the Cavs were facing elimination, the third member of the Cavs’ Trois Troika (a mongrel nickname that admittedly does not roll off the tongue) had a head-scratcher for the ages.
Love played 32 minutes, more than any other player besides James and Irving, and had as many personal fouls (four) as he had field goals (1 out of 5) and rebounds (three) combined. But, this seemingly invisible stat line also had a twist: the Cavs starting power forward was also was +18 during his time on the court, the second best +/- on the team behind Irving’s +20. That suggests that, while I was certainly screaming at the television for head coach Tyronn Lue to at least try Channing Frye for a couple of minutes, the team played well with Love on the floor, even if it seemed like Love, himself, did not.
While it certainly didn’t feel like it at the time, there were some practical reasons for Lue to stick with Love. The Warriors continue to respect Love’s ability to hit the three and rarely leave him open, which further cleared an already Draymond Green-less (and later Andrew Bogut-less) paint for James and Irving. As long as Love wasn’t getting destroyed on defense — and he wasn’t — Lue was clearly more comfortable playing him over Frye.
Lue probably saw that, while Love was struggling, he was also still hustling. This is backed up by NBA.com’s Hustle Stats, which have Love leading the team with 11 shots contested and finishing just behind Tristan Thompson, James and Irving in total Hustle Stats. The Warriors also shot just 25% at the rim when Love was the primary defender, second to James who played an exceptional defensive game and allowed just 20% shooting at the rim.
With the Warriors never able to seriously crack into the Cavs’ second half lead, Lue likely hoped that keeping Love in the game could end up paying dividends in Game 6. Maybe Love hits a shot or two that helps pry the lid that’s been sitting on the basket for him and that infusion of confidence makes Love more of a factor back in Cleveland. That didn’t happen, of course. But it could have.
At worst, maybe Love got a boost in confidence from his head coach refusing to quickly go away from him when he wasn’t scoring or rebounding. If you’re a Cavs fan, you sure hope so, because Love seemed to stop looking for his shot in Game 5. With the series already going back to Cleveland, a big Kevin Love game would certainly help the Cavs as they look to go back to Cali and a Game 7.
2.) For a little more insight into what could be going on inside the head of the Cavs head man on the bench, I turned to CtB’s own Coachface Killah, Ben Werth, for some thoughts on Lue’s Finals rotations.
Ben: Ty Lue got Herculean efforts from Uncle Drew and King James to push the Warriors to a sixth game. A year after “rookie” coach David Blatt led the Cavaliers to a six game Finals series loss, Lue needed to at least match his predecessor’s success considering the 2015-2016 Cavaliers are at full strength. Perhaps it is a poor way to evaluate Lue’s own success.
Still, with a vanilla offense and questionable lineup rotations, Lue has done little to differentiate himself from Blatt’s perceived weaknesses. Ya know, other than not being David Blatt and, by extension, having LeBron’s support. Leaving the Xs/Os and personality traits out of this conversation, Lue has struggled mightily to find lineups that maximize his players’ strengths against the various death lineups of the Warriors. The beautiful second unit of Delly, Shump, RJ, Bron and Frye has all but been scrapped in the Finals. Lue seems to have zero tolerance for any bad stretch of team play that includes Mathew Dellavedova. Whether it is Shump’s hijacking of the offense, or the referees calling phantom fouls, Lue has blamed any team dip of play on Mathew. When Delly is in there, the Cavs have not used him as a ball-handler, preferring to turn the best PnR player the Cavs have into a corner shooter. Lue went to Mo Williams in the second half of Game 5, cementing the case that he has zero confidence in our favorite Wombat.
Here’s hoping it was an aberration. With Bogut likely out with injury, the Warriors may go to the Death Lineup to start Game 6. We all know that Livingston’s length has given Delly some trouble with the second unit. I would be very interested to see a starting unit of Kyrie, JR, Delly, Bron, and TT against the Dubs Death Squad. Why not put Delly’s strength on Draymond to start the game. Mathew could switch onto Curry in any PnR and he is strong enough to make Draymond take more time with the mismatch in the post. His “annoying” behavior could upset Green enough to get him tossed for a potential Game 7. It could be an answer to an almost impossible question.
Thanks, Ben!
3.) How big of a boost was James bringing his jumper with him Monday night? In Game 5, James hit eight shots from outside the paint. That’s twice as many as he has made in any other playoff game this year (per John Schumann of nba.com) and was a major reason he was such a load for the Warriors. With Green out and his jumper on, the Warriors had to play him for the shot more and, in doing so, couldn’t offer as much resistance against the drive.
The importance of James “now you see it, now you don’t” outside shot was made even more evident to me by this video over at BBall Breakdown:
In it, Coach Nick takes a look at where James has found his offense in the half-court over his seven Finals appearances. The weakest part — and the one part of his game that teams can try to game plan to exploit — is his ability to hit the outside shot. If you’re a Cavs fan, this isn’t exactly news, but it’s helpful to see what advantages James gives to a defense when he’s not hitting outside the paint and, really, how unstoppable of a player he still is when his shot flickers on — if only briefly — and he is able to mix up his game, rather than just putting his head down and driving.
If James hasn’t completely exhausted his reserve of outside shots, the Cavs will be a handful for the Warriors on Thursday, even with Green’s return.
4.) Finally, I’ve been spending these Finals reading David Halberstam’s excellent book Playing for Keeps: Michael Jordan and the World He Made. If you haven’t read it, I highly recommend it, as I do pretty much everything Halberstam wrote. He wrote about basketball — in this and in what is probably my favorite basketball book, The Breaks of the Game — with the same texture and nuance as he wrote about political leaders and pillars of industry.
Early in the book, Halberstam talks about the first time that Jordan came to Phil Jackson and told his coach that he wanted to retire. Jordan told Jackson what he was feeling, but said that he could still be convinced to keep playing. Jackson left the decision up to Jordan, but not without painting for his star player the bigger picture. Halberstam writes:
[He] reminded Jordan of the singular pleasure he would be denying millions of ordinary people when he left the game because his gifts were so special. His talent, Jackson said, was not merely that of a great athlete but transcended athleticism to become an art form. His gift was along the lines of a Michelangelo, Jackson said, and therefore Jordan at the least had to understand that it belonged not just to the artist but to all those millions who stood in awe of the art itself and derived, in a life otherwise filled with the mundane, such pleasure from what he did.
I’ve been thinking about that quote a lot while watching these Finals, especially while watching LeBron. He’s had patches when he’s looked less than entirely transcendent, but overall the talent and will that he’s exhibited during these playoffs has, as Halberstam put it, “transcended athleticism to become and art form.” It’s that art’s ability to dazzle — the pleasure it gives us in its best moments — that I’ve tried to make the focus when I’m watching these games. That’s why his monster Game 5 performance was so satisfying: because a performance like that — or like Irving’s game, or like Klay Thompson‘s first half shooting, or like most of the last two years of Steph Curry — are momentary flashes of a certain type of brilliance that will never be exactly the same the next time out.
I predict whatever team calls the first time out loses the game. Put it on the books.
This kept plyaing in my mind as I was reading this. Just wanted to share.
Love the takes. Need to rally tonight with some fierce play. Draymond is going to be fierce, like KLove should have been coming back from the concussion. I really hope he rises up tonight to give the Cavs an extra option on offense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKy2HFBcYww
Loved the thought of Delly guarding Green, just for sheer enteratinment value! I don’t know if it would hold up basketball-wise – I assume LBJ would be guarding Curry ?
On the other hand, a Dray vs Delly collision would probably muck up the LIGO data and/ or unbalance the Force so Lue might not want to risk it
Same plan with Curry. Kyrie starts on him, only he has Delly’s IQ to balance out his own PnR defensive mistakes. Delly just switches onto Curry. Kyrie hasn’t been great against Draymond on the switch, but with LeBron lurking as weakside defender(off Barnes or Iggy) instead of chasing around Curry, he can help defend the hoop. TT can guard Iggy or Barnes depending on situation.
I know there is about a zero percent chance that this lineup will start. But I really think it has defensive potential against an almost unguardable lineup.
Great stuff Robert and Ben! Still haven’t seen the game yet (just the highlights) but KLove’s line was mind-boggling…
I want a kevin love 20-20 game and a draymond green ejection and a Cavs win. That’s all guys. Thanks!
You need to think bigger. A Green ejection, followed by a Green physical assault on a ref that leads to a 65 game suspension next season would do nicely.
All I want if for the Cavs to push it to 7 and let’s see what happens at Oracle. No matter what the Cavs have been playing them a lot better taking 2 of the last 3 so we’ll see what happens. I just hope the Cavs understand that if they defend extremely hard like they in the 2nd half last game they would have a decent chance of winning tomorrow. But they can’t also let Curry and Thompson hit a few 3’s from the beginning of the game like they did last game. Thanks God Ky and Bron were… Read more »
Kevin’s not here:
https://instagram.com/p/BGnlcUfkL2f/
RJ calling out Klay is hilarious. The whole thing is so eyerollingly ironic – Klay talks about ‘hurt feelings’, and ‘it’s a man’s game’, when all this is about is Bray’s hurt feelings about being stepped over. GS is full of more junior high manufactured drama then all of Lebron’s time in the NBA put together. They may well win game 6, but what a bunch of douches.
Play the game, and STFU.
Does anyone have stats on the death lineup this Finals? Nate Duncan keeps saying the Warriors need to go to it full time.
Here you go. For some reason, nba.com only has stats for 4 games. But the Cavs starting lineup with RJ over Love has been better than death lineup. Although death lineup is good.
http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/#!/advanced/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*G*10
Thanks!
4-man lineups are also interesting. RJ lineups key for Cavs.
http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/#!/advanced/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*G*30&GroupQuantity=4
So we can only conclude that by playing RJ only 14 minutes in Game 5, Lue was very cleverly keeping him fresh for the final two games.
A nice touch…
https://twitter.com/SBNationNBA/status/743097760329682944
Kudos ESPN & TNT
I dont know if that would be a little too much, but why dont the PA announces Love last? Just a little gesture, but show that he belongs too.
And then run the first 5 plays for Love. 2 Fouls for Draymong. Goodbye
Can we still sign Ray Allen?
Great stuff, Robert and Ben. I really do put elite athletes on the same level with artists. Though I don’t think Jordan was better at basketball than anyone was better at anything. I mean Meryl Streep is the greatest actor in the history of film, and there’s not even a close second just based on award nominations, so she’d be in that company: Picasso, Nabakov, Mozart, In his prime Tiger Woods, Jerry Rice, Roger Federer, Stefi Graff, Wayne Gretaky, Muhammad Ali, Bowie, Prince… LeBron’s game, Monday, was a masterpiece.
Do you put great blog commenters on the same level as artists?
Cols you’re kinda the Draymod of Cavs the Blog. Brash. Dirty. You’re going to get some dirty looks from your teammates game to game, but you don’t lack passion, that’s for sure. If the Cavs win it all you’ll get my vote for NBA Finals Blog Commenting MVP.
What about Phil Hubbard. All those vines
Yeah, he rules.
Thanks, guys. But copy and paste is easy.
Good call.
Usain Bolt running is absolutely beautiful. Luciano Pavarotti, Maria Callas, Leonard Warren, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Young Michael Jackson, Yves Montand, Stephen Sondheim,, etc.. Man, people are awesome.
I love Streep, but I don’t think she is the best actor ever. But the fact that she did a film about Florence Foster Jenkins pleases me to no end…. Einstein and Mozart are battling out “best ever at what they did” for me.
Best actor ever: Daniel Day Lewis
Best actress ever: Sasha Grey
Best band ever: The Beatles
Best guitar player ever: Jimi Hendrix
Best piano player ever: Mozart
Best drummer ever: John Bonham, although whoever was the drummer for the Walkmen is fantastic
Best singer ever female: Madonna
Best singer ever male: Bob Dylan
Best rapper ever: Tupac
Man Cols, that just taught me a lot about why your head is the way it is.
Agree on Hendrix! Not too much else, though…
Bogut out. He’s their best illegal screen setter. Helps the Cavs a bit.
Arguably their best… I mean how do you compare him to Braymond? His are more obviously illegal, but that doesn’t seem to matter to the refs.
Is it so hard for us to get Love some open looks from 3 point range? I understand that GS is great at switching, but are they the greatest defensive team in the history of the NBA or what? Kevin Love should be able to find open looks and he should be able to hit them. I get that he won’t average 20 ppg against GS, but can’t he score 15? It would really be huge if he could hit 3 or 4 three pointers in Game 6 just to add another weapon. LeBron and Kyrie are locked in, and… Read more »
It is hard. They’ve been trying, but his release isn’t fast enough against this team that can close out so fast.
Nice points on Love, too. I’m not getting down on him. Even though his stat sheet looked bad in Game 5, Love’s presence on the perimeter pulled Iguodala out of the paint on defense and allowed LeBron and Ky be great. So if Bogut is out and the Warriors try to Lineup of Death us to death, couldn’t the Love/Frye combo be a good counter with 2x the spacing fun? The Warriors are so good at switching and recovering but I feel like Love and Frye could neutralize that speed by shooting right over the top of a bunch of… Read more »
Yes, Love was pulling people out to the perimeter the whole game. That’s really his best role in this series.
Love didn’t hurt Cavs last game despite what stats say.
Against death lineup, Cavs best line up would be Lebron and Tristan Thompson. Lebron would get lot of opportunities close to basket if he plays PF. Frye is having hard time guarding anyone even more than Love. Barnes was having too much success against Frye. There is a chance Ezeli or Varajao will start at C so Draymond don’t have to play all 48 minutes at C.
The Delly stuff is on LeBron too. I’m always shocked at how easily the Cavs abandon things that get stopped. I think in game ONE the Cavs trotted out their Horns Rub lineup that completely eviscerated Toronto and the Warriors mucked it up and I have not seen the Cavs even attempt it since. Delly’s outside shot has gone missing but his downhill PnR game with guys like TT, or LeBron, can be devastating. Putting him off ball and letting LeBron pound it is pointless. Might as well bench him if they aren’t going to use him properly. But Mo… Read more »
I love how when Delly struggles it’s everybody’s fault but his.
You’re right, it really is. I wish the Cavs knew how to use him.
Warriors would love to take him if Cavs have no use of him.
Please take him. He’d sit behind Barbosa
I don’t really want Delly to leave, I still think he can break out in game 6. But I’d rather have Barbosa at this point.
I think LeBron’s jumper is just a matter of shooting it. Just shoot the ball and people will come out to defend him and then he can blow past them. A lot of crappy shooters just shoot (Looking at you Braymond!!) And we know James is a good shooter.
So LeBron should continue to shoot even if he misses his first few.
That might be your most inscrutable comment ever.
I had to look up inscrutable.
I love point #4 and that quote. Jordan transcended sports. A writer, Scott Turow, once said that “Michael Jordan plays basketball better than anyone else in the world does anything else.” Hyperbole, maybe, but that’s the image MJ created.
LeBron has knocked on that door. If he wins one for Cleveland, though, he will have transcended sports. Maybe only to people in Ohio, but I’m sure that would be fitting for his legacy, too.
Wow, Donaghy saying the NBA suspended Green to prolong the series. When is this slimy turd going to shut up? It’s bad enough that he’s the only ref to be exposed for his indignities — and the media still sticks a mic in front of him to cause more controversy.
Good article. Except for the part where you think startingDelly is a good idea. Have you not watched the Finals? Dude is a train wreck out there
I made the argument, not Robert. Just want to be clear that your “you” is pointed at the right person.
Cabs the blog is100%the best.
Come on Cols on the LeBron comment above. Cols714 is 100% the most inscrutable commentator ever. But I do share your disdain for Warrior “fans” that post here.