Recap: Thunder 118, Cavs 109 (or, No Rest For The Weary)
2017-02-10In his post-game comments after the Cavs had turned the lights out on the Pacers in Indiana, Tyronn Lue alarmed the media and OKC fans alike by announcing that he was planning to hit the snooze button and let all three of the All-Stars on his roster have a night of rest against the Thunder. After all, the guys had been on the road for almost a week… had already played three games in five nights (including one that went to overtime)… and were probably due for a little time off after putting together a 3-0 trip. It seemed especially prudent given Lue’s seemingly renewed sense of dedication to find whatever respite he could for LeBron James (who had averaged 40 mpg in the first three games on the road). And, since he hasn’t really been able to cut down LBJ’s minutes, why not just give him a full 48 off and sit him on the second night of a back to back?
Unfortunately, the best laid plans don’t always come to fruition. As you might guess from the metaphorical unruffled bed above, rather than rest… there was a long night in store for the weary Cavalier stars. Whether the culprit was the noise being made by the media about sitting stars for a nationally televised game… or the restlessness of his own players to finish the four game road sweep (something the Cavs haven’t done since 1994), Ty decided to change his mind about an hour before tip off and play everyone who was healthy. And, once he made his bed, he had to lie in it.
Bedtime Story
Once upon a time… okay, I’m a little tired myself, so this won’t be an exhaustive retelling of events. And, actually, you’ve heard the beginning of this story as recently as the night before anyway. Just like in the Pacers game, the Cavs were sleepwalking a bit at the start defensively, and let the Thunder beat them in transition and from the perimeter. Instead of CJ Miles and Jeff Teague knocking down uncontested shots, it was Victor Oladipo and Cameron Payne. Even though they caught up halfway through the first, the Thunder closed out the period on a 10-0 run. OKC pushed the advantage out to as much as 12 (it was 15 against Indy) in the second by thoroughly dominating the boards and forcing turnovers before the Cavs woke up on defense. With the Thunder blanketing their shooters on the outside, the wine & gold got it going inside and (eventually) at the line, which loosened the OKC defense up enough for some timely threes. Where they only closed the gap on the Pacers by halftime, they actually passed the Thunder to take a two point lead into the locker room.
Frye for 3. Here come the @cavs!#NBARapidReplay @NBAonTNT pic.twitter.com/gjR5OgEjl9
— NBA (@NBA) February 10, 2017
Unfortunately, there was no storybook third quarter scoring explosion like the one that arrived the night before, as there were few open looks for the Cavalier shooters to be found. With Russell Westbrook dictating the flow and Steven Adams controlling the paint, the Thunder re-took the lead going into the final chapter. There was a glimmer of hope when Kyle Korver hit a three with under a minute to go in the third (his first shot attempt of the game), and followed that up with five more points to start the fourth. And, Kyrie channeled his inner MFQ to go mano y mano with Russ, tying the ballgame at 99 with five minutes to go. At that point, the hope was that LeBron would find his second wind to help finish off the four game road sweep, but he looked to be clearly out of gas. Westbrook canned successive mid-range jumpers over Kyrie, and then dished a couple dimes for Oladipo triples (and a super lame 360 layup… yes, layup, not dunk… to notch his 26th triple double of the season)… to give the Thunder a 10 point lead and put the Cavs to sleep for good.
Rest Is For The Weak?
I’ve honestly given up trying to figure out Tyronn Lue’s philosophy on rest. On one level, he’s the same guy who coached this team to a championship last season, so in general he’s earned the benefit of the doubt on most fronts. He surprised me by playing LeBron on the front end of the back to back in Indiana, since I figured he’d have played him in the nationally televised game against the Thunder. Then, when he announced he was most likely going to give all of the big three the night off, I thought it was a bold choice, but probably the right one in the long run. After all, he’s made no secret of the plan to give LBJ a night off for certain back to backs as a preferred compensatory measure to cutting his minutes in the games he does play. So, to turn around and go from considering sitting LeBron out to riding him for 41 minutes makes little sense to me. Most of the guys looked weary from the four games in six nights road trip, but King James looked particularly gassed in the second half. Before the game, Lue said his players talked him into letting them suit up and keep the win streak rolling. While that may be true, it’s also possible that external pressure from the backlash of not playing his stars in a big network game may have also played a part in the final decision. Afterwards, he stuck to his guns about playing his stars.
“I thought it was good to go through something tough,” Lue said. “It was a tough game for us, four games in six nights and it was just good to fight through, not give in. Guys came out, they played, I like how we competed. They played better and they won tonight.”
This was likely a schedule loss anyway, with the Cavs on the end of a tough road trip and the Thunder home and rested since Monday, so Ty’s original instinct to rest the guys was a good one. At some point though, something will have to give here. Yes, the Cavs have been beset with injuries (J.R., Shump, etc.), and they still don’t have another playmaker yet (sorry KShrimp), but playing LeBron to exhaustion will undoubtedly result in diminishing returns both in the near future and down the road in May and June. At least the All Star Break is coming up soon…
Heavy Lies The Crown
LeBron James looked tired in this game. Yes, he scored 16 points in the first half on 7-13 shooting to lead the Cavs, but he had only two points the rest of the way… zero in the fourth quarter (in which he played all but the final minute). He also had half of the Cavs’ 14 assists, although only three came in the second half (two on the mini Korver flurry). You wouldn’t even need to look at the numbers however to clearly see he had some heavy legs out there. He had to check out a little earlier than usual in the first quarter as he seemed winded from the pace of play the Thunder were running… and he badly missed not one but two open dunks. His turnovers weren’t as numerous as some other recent games (only three), but two of them were self-inflicted where he just dribbled the ball off his foot or made a careless pass. For most normal players, an 18/7/5 slash line would be a good night, but these figures were weighed down from LBJ’s regal standards. And, while it’s not always much fun to watch the Cavs struggle without LeBron when he sits out for rest, it’s decidedly less fun to watch him play when he’s too tired to be effective.
Not Tired… Wired
Kyrie clearly had the most energy of the big three on the offensive end of things, as he seemed to have his legs under him both from downtown (4-5) and when finishing at the rim (11-18 overall from the field). This shot was particularly magical…
Uncle Drew coming out for the 4Q 👀 pic.twitter.com/YAqRj0mMzG
— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) February 10, 2017
He definitely appeared to recognize that he was going to have to take the reins in the second half with LeBron flagging, although Westbrook baited him into a game of back and forth hero ball, and he wound up driving into the teeth of the defense instead of kicking out shooters as much. His six turnovers to just four assists was a telling stat, as he couldn’t seem to generate a ton of looks for his teammates and was forcing the issue at times. His nine fourth quarter points (and 28 points overall to lead the team) helped keep the Cavs in it until the last five minutes, although he wound up having to guard Russ for the bulk of crunch time and it wasn’t pretty.
No Boards For The Bored
The Cavs got crushed on the glass by the Thunder (51-35)… in particular by Adams who had 13, including nine offensive boards, and Westbrook who finished with 12. Kevin Love actually held up his end with a dozen (although more than half came in the first half), but TT was abused by the Thunder front line. Both Cavs big men also had tough nights from the field, but were strong at the free throw line, going a combined 9-10. They played the least amount of minutes among the regular starters (31 & 32 respectively), and neither was much of a factor in crunch time.
The Tooth Hurts
In a surprise last minute move, Jordan McRae started at SG for DeAndre Liggins (who was starting for an injured Iman Shumpert… who was starting for an injured J.R. Smith). The initial reason given was a sore tooth (later reports said he suffered nerve and tissue damage from a tooth that fell out before the game). It’s a shame that Lig had to miss this one (oddly he did check in for the final minute of garbage time though), because his athletic defense that was on display in the Pacers game could have been helpful. Instead, we were treated to 27 minutes of the “Wedgie” McRae experience (both literally and figuratively).
Here's another wedgie, @TheStarters 🚫 pic.twitter.com/auLdAIQ0md
— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) February 10, 2017
Of the unusually high four jump balls in this game (outside of the opening tip), half of them were the result of a McRae shot getting wedged between the rim and backboard. Typically, McRae’s offense makes him at least a threat to score when he’s on the floor, but he was just 2-9 (1-4 from downtown). Somehow, he still ended up a +4 for the game which is kind of amazing given his general defensive deficiencies.
Stay Woke Fellas!
The two newest Cavs, Kyle Korver and Derrick Williams, did not miss a shot between them. That’s right… they both went 3-3 from the field and were ready to shoot it whenever their teammates got them the rock. Sadly, Threezus didn’t get his first opportunity until there were just 40 seconds left in the third quarter… and even then he wasn’t fully unleashed. The Thunder did a much better job forcing Korver and the other Cav gunners off their spots, and even the three shots Kyle did take were contested. Williams, having just shown up with no benefit of practice on his new 10 day contract, acquitted himself nicely with 12 points in 22 minutes. In addition to his perfect night from the field, he also got to the line for 6-8. While he didn’t have all of his Whole Enchilada From La Mirada skills on display (zero rebounds, one assist), he was active enough on both ends to show he deserves a long look from the Cavs on this tryout. He was also on the receiving end of this early LBJ TD pass…
Bron taking a page out of Love's 📖 pic.twitter.com/5PDd9AiCo8
— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) February 10, 2017
The Rest Of The Rest
Channing Frye actually had a pretty decent game… defensively. He was a bit off with his shooting touch (2-6, 1-4 from three), but pulled down six boards and blocked a shot in 15 minutes of relief. Richard Jefferson barely played (five minutes), and was one of the few that Lue looked like he was trying to rest. Kay Felder probably should have played either a lot more (if Kyrie had actually been held out) or not at all (because he had a miserable time trying to guard Cameron Payne). James Jones is still good for at least one garbage time three per game (he’s at 57.5%).
Miles To Go Before They Sleep…
The Cavs still have a long flight home from Oklahoma City to wrap up their long week away, which was still a success at 3-1. I’m sure they’re probably glad it’s behind them, and that there’s only three more games left before the All Star Break. While two of those games are in Cleveland… there’s still one sandwiched in the middle on the front end of another back to back in Minnesota (and of course the second night is a nationally televised game against the Pacers). They’re all winnable games, which makes them all potential targets for an opportunity to rest at least LeBron, and maybe the rest of the big three.
I recognize that this recap may seem overly critical, but it’s not because the Cavs lost the game… after all, it’s not a loss that means a whole lot in the grand scheme of things. It was always going to be a tall order to waltz into OKC on the second night of a back to back… on the end of a road trip of four games in six nights… against a motivated team that the Cavs beat a week ago… who had been hanging out at home since Monday. What bugs me is that Ty Lue’s gut was right in wanting to sit his star players… and for whatever reason, he went against that logic. In either case it was a likely “schedule loss,” however, the scenario he ultimately went with contributes to the further exhaustion of his superstar.
Hopefully, they can all get some good rest tomorrow…
YEAH COLS NOT REAL GOOD AT THE FOUL LINE—-BRING HIM UP— TURN HIM LOOSE ON THE” KORVER EXPERIMENT”—-NOT SAYING ” MY MAN MORELAND IS THE ANSWER ” —-BUT WHY NOT GIVE HIM A TRY —–YEAH WE LOST LAST NIGHT ( VARSITY BOYS ) 9 / 23 AT THE FOUL LINE— GUESS WHAT WE WILL BE DOING ALOT OF COME MONDAY PRACTICE
I enjoy the new Katy Perry song.
Nomad, isn’t Moreland’s problem that he can’t shoot free throws at all? At least that’s what Nate seemed to say the other day.
“MY MAN MORELAND ” 30 / 17 YETERDAY
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet , but Cavs now have 5 players from the 2011 draft:
Irving, Williams, Thompson, Shumpert and Liggins! Glad one of them was Kyrie!
Oakley is banned for life from the Garden. Dolan also fired the MSG head of security.
Ok, who wants to come play for the Knicks?!?
Dolan’s gotta be top three worst owners in sports right now, right?
Who is the competition?
Whoever owns the Browns at any give point, the guy that owns the Florida Marlins, and OKC’s owners who moved the team from Seattle and then wouldn’t pay up to keep Harden which led to that smug arrogant fraud team in California.
The standard theory is that Durant and Harden hate each other, and the Thunder had to pick one. They picked Durant, which seemed to be smart AT THAT TIME. However, Harden turns out to have the heart of a LeBron (but not the talent) and Durant is a more talented Gumdrop Bear. If they had it to do over again, they should have been able to trade Durant for ANYONE (Say, Anthony Davis + picks), and they would be thumping the Dubs.
I just pictured Westbrook, Harden and Davis together and that would have been deadly.
They also had Reggie Jackson as a backup PG…
Chargers owner
Sacramento owner?
Bet Orange Fanta would…
The frustrating thing about most modern leaders including coaches is they don’t lead, they don’t coach; they mentor. Lue needs to grab his sack and tell Lebron he’s sitting, shouldn’t be a discussion. Of course Lebron will say he wants to play, long term you earn more respect by commanding respect like Coach K then you do when you lead by committee.
Lue has commanding respect. He won a title in Cleveland.
Lol, he facilitated Lebron and Kyrie going nuts and beating a mentally weak team.
How come Saint Coach K can’t get that big doofus to quit tripping players on the other team?
Cause he’s been away from the team recuperating, hasn’t he?
He was recuperating, just got back and beat UNC. On his was he banned all Duke players from wearing Duke gear because they were dishonoring the legacy and honor of the team. That is leadership.
That sequence where Kyrie dribbled through the whole OKC defense for a layup (in the clip above) followed by the one-handed, behind-the-back pass from Lebron to Kyrie for a three was fun to watch!
When does our starting SG come back? And our backup SG?
The early word on Shump was that he was going to miss two games and then they’d evaluate him for Saturday night against the Nuggets… Since he’s been seen going through warmups the last two games (even though he didn’t play), it seems like they were just being cautious. I’d expect him to be back on Saturday…
J.R. still says he’s probably a month away… so late March early April?
Although in this new McMenamin article, it sounds like Shump might be out until after the ASB…
http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/3651/derrick-williams-debut-offers-glimmer-of-hope-as-the-cavs-missing-piece
In this article, Derrick Williams is quoted as saying that last night was his first NBA game on a team with a winning record.
It is not totally wishful thinking to entertain the possibility that he might turn into a major rotation player. I say, so far he has greatly exceeded expectations.
Wow that is sad.
Kyrie could easily be saying the same thing if not for Lebron…
The Cavs should not play LeBron on back to back to situations anymore. Or maybe sit him in the front end of the back to back and play him in the second game.
I don’t think resting every back to back is necessary yet. But he should rest some of them.
There are 8 more back to backs remaining this season… 6 of them are in March…
The first one (I mentioned in the recap) is next Tues/Wed: @Minnesota and home to Indy. With the travel back through two time zones and the last game before the ASB traditionally a game players check out of mentally, I’d be inclined to sit at least LBJ against Pacers.
The next three in March all have both nights of the b2b on the road…
3/3 & 3/4: @Hawks, @Heat
3/11 & 3/12: @Magic, @Rockets
3/18 & 3/19: @Clippers, @Lakers
The @Heat (given the way they’re playing) and @Rockets look like schedule losses… so why not sit guys? At least the LA double-header is in the same building and requires no travel…
Sure, they will likely sit some guys during those games. Resting in March>resting in February>resting in january>etc.
The last two in March start away and go home…
3/24 & 3/25: @Hornets, home vs. Wizards
3/30 & 3/31: @Bulls, home vs. Sixers
Depending on how the standings sit at that time, might be wise to not play LBJ @ Hornets to be rested for the more important Wiz game, and then reverse that logic for the following…
The last two of the season are fairly masochistic, and the hope would be that the Cavs have home court sewn up by that time…
4/4 & 4/5: @Magic, home vs. Celtics
4/9 & 4/10: @Hawks, @Heat
Thanks Adam Silver…
Durant was on Simmons podcast. He sounds like all the other frauds, completely full of himself and acting like they invented basketball. What a horrible place to play. Light years…
Did Simmons lob him all softball questions, and then ask him how stupid the Harden trade was? That’s basically what he does with any jock interview.
That trade was indefensible. To think that team could have three leading MVP candidates in the West on the same team. Horrible management
Yep.
Looks like from the outside (as Simmons has said ad infinitum), but I remember a writer who covered the Thunder who was on Lowe’s podcast a year or two ago saying that some move was going to be made — he said that Durant and Harden couldn’t co-exist on the court, and one of them was going to go. If it was one or the other, they were smart to keep Durant. If this is true, it’s more nuanced than Simmons yelling ‘HORRIBLE TRADE!’, of course.
THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT COLS —JUST WORD IT DIFFERENTLY —–SOMETIMES TY ( AND MAYBE HE HAS TO WITH THE MEDIA ) COMES ACROOS ARROGANT / STUBBORN —” THIS IS MY DECISION AND NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO QUESTION IT ” TYPE OF ATTITUDE —-COLS YOU NEED TO TRY THE ALSKAN ICY IPA —YEAH BABY —WAIT UNTIL NOON YOUR TIME THOUGH
Just to clarify my position here. I do think that 41 minutes on 3 out of 4 nights is a lot and LeBron was clearly tired last night. If he’s tired he shouldn’t play that many minutes, that’s a no-brainer. My problem comes with people thinking that him playing 41 minutes on February 9, 2017, is going to somehow (they never say how) effect him in 2019. He’s going to get old and slow down, but it won’t be because he played 41 minutes in a game in 2017. But they should definitely look to get him a bit more… Read more »
Like tread on a tire, every mile they go, there is more wear and tear. Every time LeBron’s foot impacts the floor, he is creating a concussive force that can be felt in every joint on his body. Is this force relatively minute? Yes. But as time wears on, each of those successive tiny impacts add up and eventually weaken what was once strong. It is a pretty common natural cause and effect relationship. We see the same thing with rivers wearing thru stone. Is LeBron possibly the most physically gifted human being on the planet? Probably. But he’s, at… Read more »
Totally agree with JMay
That is one of the more intelligent well thought out things you have every said IMO. I don’t necessarily agree 100%, but it is well thought out, almost as if you are sober when writing it. My hope is that Lebron who is obsessed with healthy lifestyle will take a page out of Brady’s playbook and defy conventional wisdom as it pertains to age and miles on his body. But he shouldn’t play back to back, no point.
TV63– YEAH DWILL LOOKED GOOD ON “D” –EVEN WHEN HE WAS ON RUSSEL —-I AM ALSO ONE THAT IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MINUTES —BUT DO BELIEVE WITH ALL STAR BREAK COMING UP —-PLAYERS GETTING HEALTHY—GRIFF MAKING SOME MOVES ( CAN SEE EITHER KAY SENT DOWN TO CANTON OR MAMBA CUT –AND GETTING RID OF ANDERSON’S CONTRACT ) TO FREE UP ROSTER SPOTS —-THIS WILL ALLOW FOR A DEEPER BENCH AND ALLOW FOR MORE REST WHEN NEEDED
Kay going to Canton will not free up a roster spot. You are thinking baseball where you can have 25 active players. In NBA, you have 15 total.
Otherwise, I agree. They are holding on to Anderson (and probably Mamba) in case they need chips for a trade. They will likely be gone after the trade deadline, which will free up two spots.
COLS YOU DO MAKE A GOOD PT—-ALL STAR BREAK COMING UP—ALSO ONCE ALL THE TRADE LINE DRAMA IS OVER —GRIFF WILL REVIEW –MAKE SOME ” RABBIT IN THE HAT ” MOVES— WHICH WILL ALLOW MORE REST ( WHEN WE REALLY NEED IT ) GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS—YEAH LIKED WHAT I SAW IN “ENCHILADA ” LAST NIGHT –WITHOUT ANY REPS—–I REALIZE HE DIDN’T HAVE ANY REBOUNDS ( BELIEVE THAT WILL COME ) BUT HE IS A NICE PLAYER TO BRING OFF THE BENCH —STILL BELIEVE –IF GIVEN TIME– HE WILL START TO REACH HIS POTENTIAL ( NOT AN ALL STAR –JUST… Read more »
Totally agree that the Enchilada looks like a steal, he was great for only having ZERO minutes of practice with the team, not even knowing the system. Recall that Korver didn’t start hitting his stride until he had been on the team for a month.
Much as I hate the Deflators, you have to admire the way Belichick reclaims a couple “big disappointment” guys every year and turns them into productive players. If you are at the top with no draft picks, that is a good way to keep at the top.
Does Belichick do this though? His track record at that isn’t very good. He’s good at finding defensive guys to fit his scheme, but I think when he picks up old first rounders they don’t do much. The lastest failure was Michael Floyd who didn’t even dress in the Super Bowl.
Could be. I was working from memory there, and I don’t follow NFL very closely. Speaking of the Pats, here is the thing I hate about Brady: He is the best QB, but he cheats anyway. That is understandable. If he would have manned up and admitted it, and taken a four game suspension, then he would have gotten his “second chance”, come back better than ever, and be everybody’s favorite again. But no, he destroys evidence, throws low level employees under the bus, gets top lawyers, sues the league (in a home town court), plays DenyDenyDeny to the hilt,… Read more »
Is it weird to say that after all that business about deflated balls and the suspension… I still don’t really understand how that gave him a competitive advantage?
Recall that a key piece of evidence is that during the “deflate era” the Pats had the lowest rate fumbles and dropped passes in history.
I hadn’t heard that… but that would explain it a little… although, wouldn’t it also help for the opposing team too? I mean, it’s not as one sided as say a guy using steroids or a corked bat in baseball, since both teams would get the advantage of a slightly deflated ball, no?
I mean, I think Griff has already pulled one huge rabbit with Korver, who has really started to fit in and heat up… He’s possibly also made a shrewd pickup with the Enchilada, because maybe all Williams ever needed was the right winning environment to flourish… I just don’t know if we can expect more miracles, even though Griff has created that expectation by consistently trying to make this team better. There was a lot of outcry for another big on the thread last night, but aside from Nate’s suggestion of Benson and your suggestion of Moreland (both D-Leaguers and… Read more »
Agree with JMay that Lue is affecting how long LeBron’s prime performance years will last. As you may have seen, LeBron didn’t take questions after last night’s game for the first time since his return to Cleveland. Maybe he didn’t want to give an honest answer about whether he should have been playing. A question Joe Vardon probably would have asked to his annoyance. As EG wrote, James was clearly gassed last night based on both the eye test and his second half performance. Yet Lue played him 41 minutes, which is the third time in four games on a… Read more »
There’s zero chance that LeBron playing 40 minutes last night takes any time away from his prime. There’s no mechanism for this to happen.
He was tired though, that’s for sure. The week off will help and then Lue will start dialing it back when it really matters.
What are your alternative facts to support your “zero chance” opinion? I am quoting James own words from his first year back. And as far as “no mechanism” there was a solid blog post on CtB not too long ago detailing statistically what happened to past elite players when they passed the 50,000 minute mark, which of course James has. The stats were quite concerning and revealing. There is very clearly zero chance, however, that most of your posts are much more than shoot from the hip opinions.
Those players got old. James will get old and suck at some point. It’s age, not minutes. There’s nothing that he does today that will make him get older faster.
Trying to discuss something with you that is fact based is pointless
Now that Kellyanne Conway has transitioned to promoting Ivanka products, Cols has a job opportunity at the White House producing Alternative Facts!
I wasn’t surprised he didn’t take questions. Even that last game, he just wasn’t into it. He looked mentally drained. I’m more than fine for him to take a break from the press here and there especially when you look at his entire career. He has ALWAYS been available. That’s a heck of alot of games!
I’m sure the prime time teevee slot made them wan to play their big three. I don’t see why this is getting criticized. They will get a week off to heal in a few games. Basketball players should play basketball.
I think you mean the prime time TV slot made the NBA and TNT want them to play their big three… If Ty Lue never said anything about resting the big three, then there would be less to be critical about. By saying it, it indicated that he’s at least cognizant of the fact that these guys (especially LeBron) probably needed a rest. He’s on the record as saying his plan is to give at least LBJ days off on back to backs… Something changed, and I’m not buying that it was just “my guys came to me and said… Read more »
Cavs looked good. Just a bit tired. They get a week off soon. No problems here. Williams looked good.
At this point, I am just throwing up my hands on when Lue decides to rest people. I am fairly sure that he is cutting time off the end of LeBron’s prime, but I have zero control. Frustrating, but the coaching staff stopped taking my calls for whatever reason.
I know I saw Liggins in there at the end. But anyways, what did everyone think on the defense of Williams? I don’t remember seeing any major flaws. I do like he is fierce driving to the basket. Who would of ever thought Kyrie, TT and him would be on the same team 6 years ago?
They have 4 people from that draft now, including Liggins.
It’s 5… You forgot Shumpert.
Irving, Williams, Thompson, Shumpert, Liggins.
Oh wow. I suck.
It’s like you don’t read my Live Threads… ;)
Maybe they numbed up Lig’s mouth so he could go in at the end… Liked the early returns on DWill’s D… not bad for a guy who most certainly doesn’t know the defensive rotations at all yet. Like his length and athleticism for guarding wings…
But Dustin “Marathon Man” Hoffman went sprinting down the street with no novacaine after getting tortured by Lawrence Olivier !! I saw this a few months ago on cable and it’s aged well for 40 or so years
Man that scene still makes me cringe…
http://www.websophist.com/Teeth_IsItSafe_MarathonMan.jpg
Oh yes for sure!