Not A Recap: Cavs 119, Knicks 104 (or, Rolling With What They’ve Got)
2017-02-24Even without the Cavs making any moves at yesterday’s Trade Deadline, it was still a pretty exhausting day for many of us (so apologies for this delayed and brief quasi-recap). Fortunately, the Cavs themselves were well-rested and raring to go against the still intact Knicks last night at the Q. Carmelo Anthony and Derrick Rose (both the sources of trade speculation over the last few days and weeks) were still on the court in New York unis, and the Cavs were all there too, sans the injured Kevin Love and J.R. Smith. Cleveland had won their previous nine games against New York going into the night, and given where both teams were at going into the break, a 10th win seemed inevitable. The Cavs didn’t disappoint as they kept their February success rolling (now 8-1 for the month).
Things started off rough, though for the wine & gold, as poor defense and missed shots allowed the Knicks to run out to an early lead. However, the Cavs got it going to catch up and edge the Knicks by one to end the first quarter. Then, the LeBron, Kyle Korver and Wildcats (Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson and Derrick Williams) lineup helped push the lead out an 18 point margin with a dominant second quarter. The Cavs went on a 25-8 run to close the first half and just about put the Knicks away. New York made it somewhat interesting again when Anthony scored eight points in the third to pull his squad within eight points of the Cavs heading into the final frame. But, LBJ, KK and the Wildcats quickly pushed the lead back out to 19, and the Cavs rolled to an easy victory.
Highlights:
LeBron had a base 13 triple double (his sixth of the season) with 18 points (on 7-11 shots), 15 assists and 13 rebounds. Clearly the time off did him good, as he seemed energized in his playmaking, threw down several dunks, and absolutely deleted Courtney Lee on a chase down block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz4tuJAlGnU
Kyrie scored 23 points on 9-16 shooting, and really had his midrange game going. He also chipped in six dimes (the Cavs had 29 on the night), and played some solid D on Derrick Rose.
Tristan Thompson was in Canadian Dynamite mode for most of the night. He had another double double with 10 points and 14 boards (six offensive… and five of which came in the first quarter alone). He also blocked four shots and was a very efficient deterrent at the rim.
Kyle Korver (aka Threezus… aka La Flama Blanca) continued his hot shooting coming out of the break with 20 points on 7-12 shooting (6-10 from downtown). He’s making threes at a scorching 64% clip in February now. But it’s not just his shooting… he’s doing it all with gritty defense, rebounds and assists as well, as reflected in his team high +27 last night.
The Wildcats are lit right now. Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson and Derrick Williams all contributed in a big way against the Knicks. While Frye had a bit of a rough start (missing his first five shots, and a few easy boards to boot), he came back to hit five of his next eight, and two key triples in the early stages of the fourth. RJ looked like his old self, making 5-6 (2-3 from deep), playing good defense and even throwing down another terrific dunk. DWill also rained a pair of threes and was 4-8 from the field in 27 strong minutes. He kicked off his second 10 day contract strong, and it bodes well for the Cavs keeping him the rest of the season.
Lowlights:
Iman Shumpert struggled in his first game back from being rumored to be on the trading block. Though it sounds like most of the calls were incoming ones, Shump still looked a bit shook that he might have been close to switching teams. He missed his first six shots, and wound up just 2-9 (1-6 from three) for five points. He did manage a couple of steals though.
Not really that big of a deal given the team was rested coming out of the break, but nobody else on the bench (outside of the three in the eight man rotation) played more than three minutes. While it might be understandable for McRae and Felder who haven’t contributed as much, it remains a conundrum that DeAndre Liggins doesn’t get a bit more run to help the defense in spots.
The Knicks mostly look like a team that has lost their way. Both of their veteran stars (Melo and DRose) are unwanted by management but are stuck there now until the summer at least, and their best young star, Kristaps Porzingis, suffered an ankle sprain in the second quarter and didn’t return. Oh, and their banned former star, Charles Oakley, was the personal guest of Dan Gilbert behind the bench at the game. Tough time to be a Knicks fan right about now.
Help on the way?
Though the Cavs made no moves at the deadline, there is speculation from most corners of the NBA that recently waived PG, Deron Williams, will make his way to Cleveland following the 48 hour waiver window. The other DWill could possibly be a Cav by sometime Saturday, and would certainly fill the hole at backup PG, giving the Cavs the playmaker they’ve been coveting. It’s also possible that the Cavs could sign another recent Maverick in Andrew Bogut, who was traded to Philadelphia at the deadline and subsequently bought out.
The Cavs take on the new look Chicago Bulls on Saturday night… although thankfully, Jimmy Butler is still wearing red instead of green.
LeBron never plays against his friend wade anymore
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/835519344629133312
Fine by me…Lue can’t play him in street clothes…
Casspi got waived? Maybe not now but would he be worth a look post-season?
By the time he’s healthy, he won’t be eligible.
Good win for Raps without Lowry. Tucker looks good. Good result for Cavs, too.
They showed how you should play IT… and it’s the problem with having your star be 5’9… the physicality got to him
Agreed, doesn’t bode well for the Celtics in the playoffs.
Boy, wish the Cavs could have snagged Tucker…
MAN YOU WATCH SOME OF KSHRIMP’S HIGHLIGHTS ( AND I FULLY REALIZE IT IS DLEAGUE ) BUT YOU CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL —HOPE THE CAVS STICK WITH HIM !!
They payed a lot of money for him, so I’m sure he’s safe for at least another year….
What money? They are probably paying him rookie scale for the third last player picked. And they got the draft pick for a couple bucks.
Buying the pick cost 2.5 million I believe
Yep…
KSRIMP–32 /6 ” MY MAN MORELAND” 12/12 6-BLOCKS
Man, the Celtics and Raps really don’t like each other much…
Will be a good series if they play each other. I favor the Raps with Lowry….even with the genius President Stevens leading the green…
You mean…. this guy?
Was hoping for this….:D
He is saying, “Look at me. Stop, score, stop.” BS needs to be miked up more for thses brilliant coaching gems alone
KSHRIMP WITH 19 PTS / 4 ASSISTS AT HALF
Just shows the huge gap between the D league and the NBA I think. But then Yogi made the jump. As the cliche goes, however, you can’t teach size
KSHRIMP PLAYING FOR CANTON CHARGE ( PLAYING AGAINST NATE ROBINSON ) TEARING IT UP SO FAR 1ST QTR –7PTS /3 ASSISTS SO FAR —–GUESS HE WILL BE A SEMI “FILL IN ” FOR THE MIGHTY QUINN
that is what I implied cols
Hey NOMAD, just consider that we are trading Quinn Cook for Deron Williams, an easy win for us.
STILL HAVE “MY MAN MORELAND “—-WISH THE “MIGHTY QUINN” GOOD LUCK —-SO IN ESSENCE WE MIGHT BE TRADING QUINN FOR DERON WILLIAMS –I WILL TAKE THAT TRADE
Looks like Mavs are signing Quinn Cook….NOMAD will be diasappoint…
THANK YOU NATE —-WAS SOMEWHAT IN YOUR “NECK OF THE WOODS ” TODAY—AMISH COUNTRY—KIDRON / BERLIN /MILLERSBURG- ETC—BEAUTIFUL DAY TO TAKE THE DRIVE —FILLED UP ON ALL THE “CHEESE / BEEF ” SAMPLES AND HOME MADE PIES !!
KJG’S INDICATING IF WE DON’T CUT DWILL —THERE IS ONLY 1 ROSTER SPOT —-MEANING WE WOULD HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN DERON WILLIAMS/ BOGUT / OR SANDERS —CAN’T WE CUT / WAIVE THE MAMBA AND CREATE ANOTHER SPOT ( 2 SPOTS )—-I AGREE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING COLS BUT IT COULDN’T HURT TO GET SOME TIPS / FOLLOW SOME OF KORVERS DRILLS
McRae will be cut. It was a mistake to keep him past the deadline.
I give the KJG gang a passing grade, but only for effort. They are about one step from clueless. They have not considered letting the Mamba walk, which is the obvious thing to do.
GOOD TO BE BACK “LIVE ” ONCE AGAIN —-GOOD AS EVER EVIL —–IMAN NEEDS TO SHADOW “THREEZUS ” DAILY / DO HIS SHOOTING DRILLS / MIMIC HIS SHOOTING MECHANICS —-BE A “HIGH ENERGY “D”–SPOT UP “3”—AND LEAVE THE MAGICAL BALLHANDLING TO “KYRIE “—–YES I THINK WE ARE ALL IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF “D” AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE GAME WE WERE NOT AWARE OR DID NOT APPRECIATE FROM “THREEZUS “—–IF WE DO NOT GET BOGUT / JONES / OR SANDERS WOULD YOU PURSUE SULLINGER
Shump has been fine shooting this year. He had a bad night, but his shots looked good.
What? Most of the shots were rocket ships launched towards the backboard. two or three didn’t even hit the rim
I dunno; I thought some of them looked pretty wet just came in and out – his form still looked good and he had a great bounce to his jump. Of course he had a few pretty bad ones too :)
Nice Cap EG. It doesn’t read like a “not a.” I mean it’s not the novel you normally write, but it’s still golden.
Was kind of hoping for a better defender and shooter than DWill, but he’ll be fine for 15 minutes a night. Bogutshould be decent insurance, but I don’t know how much he plays.
Terrance Jones supposed on Boston’s radar. Because sure, have yet another power forward. Feel like Washington or Miami would both be much better fits from a playing time standpoint – Detroit too.
I’m kinda all in on Terrence Jones. He’d get a lot of minutes here, also, with Kevin out. Plus he may end up with playoff exposure. He might be able to showcase himself for a decent contract next year with someone.
Thanks Nate!
I also find it amusing that Chuck and the old school regime always complains about the mental toughness and competitive nature/killer instinct of this “soft” generation. Watching Lebron sprint down the floor obviously mad as heck that someone thought they could best him and basically turn a bad turnover into an all time highlight, illustrates how wrong Chuck is about Lebron.
Yep.
Chuck might have been right about one incident. No one doubts LeBron is the toughest ever when he wants to be, which is usually, other than in January.
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/835205049966018560
I read an article a few years back about his offseason training, intense doesn’t even describe it, he takes fitness pretty serious.
For you Tribe fans out there… some promising news
https://twitter.com/twithersAP/status/835204795271032832
New look Raps get unveiled tonight against the Celtics… should be an interesting game…
Should be fun. Is it on my teevee?
ESPN… 8EST, 5PST, so probably 6 ColsStandardTime
I seriously can’t name any backup PGs who are better than Deron Williams.
Delly
Nevermind, he’s a stater now
Oh Joe…
I like “The Bear” for Cols’ alternate personality that takes over when hears mention of “The fraudsters who cannot be named”. Not sure how he comes back to semi reality. Maybe Mrs. Cols gives him some cheese. Remember how Moe and Larry had to give Curly-Joe some cheese to make him recover from seeing a mouse?
Lou Williams
Patrick Beverly
I thought Korver would be good with the Cavs, didn’t know he would be lightning in a bottle. He immediately impacted the game with smart defense and lethal off ball movement and shooting. My son keeps asking where Threezus is whenever he isn’t in the game, he loves watching him play.
Ha. You were basically the opposite of Nate who was making Mike Dunleavy jokes for the first few games after we got Korver.
Lol, Mike Dunleavy
God forbid I actually comment on what was actually happening.
Much better to just ‘BELIEVE’ rather than ‘observe’…
Well there was plenty of evidence Threezus would thrive here. He’s one of the top three spot up shooters in the league, along with Reddick, and Klay. He has a lightening quick release and is a passionate professional. Of course he’ll regress to the mean, but it wouldn’t be a stretch to say 50% from 3 is the mean on a team where he gets 5-7 open looks a night.
As others said, I am pleasantly surprised by his defense. An old basketball cliche would say Korver is a ” heady defender.” Someone last night, I think it was Nate, accurately said that KK makes 4-5 just very solid d players each night. And he almost always hustles back on both ends. After LeBron’s great bloc, look at Korver. He sprinted back full speed even though LeBron gathered himself dribbling in the corner after the block. James was right to compliment Korver’s hig bball IQ
Wildcats!
https://twitter.com/CavsFredMcLeod/status/835197921800957953
I wonder if Cols is actually Griffin’s wife or perhaps his PR rep.
I’d be happy to be either
Question for Courtney Lee: would you rather go 10/15 for 25 points but get stuffed at the rim by Lebron, or just have your normal 10 ppg night?
Hey man. You got bested by the best player in the world. No shame in that.
Good luck Pellies…
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/835196653376241664
Good to see…
https://twitter.com/CavsFredMcLeod/status/835196139871797248
https://twitter.com/CavsFredMcLeod/status/835195901996122113
https://twitter.com/CavsFredMcLeod/status/835196548753547264
https://twitter.com/CavsFredMcLeod/status/835197015072071685
This is a cool stat…
https://twitter.com/cavs/status/835148415059247104
Paul Pierce should be your new hero, Cols…
https://twitter.com/paulpierce34/status/835067874012102657
Guess theres a reason they call him The Truth!
Nice. On the Finals broadcast he was the only analyst picking the Cavs.
Hey! I just started liking Paul Pierce a lot better!
Man I hope we get DWill2.0
Good to see LEBRON! show up last night
Insightful comment below about brons high efficiency this year and the virtual elimination of jab step long 2’s.
Think how great it would be if Griffin turned Delly/Moz combined salaries of $100M into Deron/Bogut. We would have upgraded both and not be stuck with stupid contracts going forward. Unbelievable.
But we might only have them for 1/3 of a season plus the playoffs. Nevertheless, it is great.
If we got both those dudes, think it would be tough to pick against us.
As I was watching the game yesterday, I caught myself feeling more and more glad with every jab step-step back-iso jumper Anthony took that he is wearing a Knicks uniform and not a Cavs one.
Absolutely. I mean, he’d probably be better and more energized playing with LBJ, but agree that his iso-jab game would get awfully tiresome… Cavs have the best two ISO players in the league… no need for a third
It is one thing thing to use an iso possession to drive and potentially set up your teammates and a completely different thing jacking 20 footers with a hand in your face while 4 teammates watch. This is what drove us nuts with Lebron under Blatt and to his credit has copletely taken away from his game this year and it is not a coincidence he has his best assist year of his career.
Very true… imagine what LBJ’s assist average would look like if he was surrounded by as many shooters as he has on this roster in the past…
Let me reverse that for you. Imagine what a great feat it is to average as many assists as Lebron has in his career, when your best teammate for the first 7 years was Mo, Z and … Larry Hughes.
Oh and Eric Snow and some traitor.
Although he did have his previous best assist year in 09-10 with 8.6… and he had two of his lowest season averages with the Heat (6.2 in 11-12 and 6.3 in 13-14)… I think it has a lot to do with Bron’s mindset as well as the ability of the shooters around him…
You have a point there, EG. Although, 2009-10 was the most stat-pudding Lebron year in Cleveland. I didn’t like how he was playing that season relatively speaking.
This little stat makes me super excited about the possibility of Deron Williams: “Deron Williams leads the NBA in points created per possession by his passes out of the pick and roll this season (1.15).” So many TT lobs and three point bombs coming.
Great stat find Nick! That should make every Cavs fan salivate at the lob-portunities…
Don’t forget he was playing under Carlisle and next to Dirk, who make every point guard this side of Rajon Rondo play/seem three times better than in any other team. Not discounting his value or pick n roll acumen, but definitely something to keep in mind.
The German hasn’t exactly been all that healthy this year though… He’s played in only 30 of their games and is averaging only 26 minutes per…
True but his shooting gravity even when he isn’t at full strength makes every offensive possession that much easier. Ask JJ Barea’s bank account if you don’t believe me.
LeBron somehow made Delly $40M (Milwaukee really regrets that contract). I’m sure Deron would only get better when joins Leb.
Delly obsession alert… And, I’m sure they regret that far less than the Lakers regret the deal Jim Buss made for Moz…
No doubt. That Mozgov deal was horrible, but still the Noah deal might be the worst one given out last off season.
Evan Turner would like a word.
True, but Turner can probably be traded. No one is trading for Noah ever (although Thibs might try).
Nobody will trade for Evan Turner also unless multiple assets are involved. Noah is neber gonna be traded, true.
I’d say the Cavs have a few more options on the pick&pop or pick&roll though than the Mavs…
Oh they do, but he won’t run as much pick n roll on the Cavs. His biggest value is as a spot up shooter and secondary ball handler.
I wouldn’t be so sure… I mean, aside from LBJ and Kyrie more recently, the Cavs have had nobody who was capable of running the PnR… I imagine if they get DWill2, Ty will put some more PnR wrinkles into the second unit…
I hope he does, don’t get me wrong. I just don’t think somebody other than Lebron or Kyrie initiates the offense, this season at least.
I really, really hope the Cavs get him….if they do, I can do without Bogut…would be incredibly helpful…
Fun and informative quasi-recap EG. Have we tried to come up with a name for the Lebron, Korver, RJ, Frye and Williams lineup? How about “King, Korver and the Cats”? or “King, Kyle and the Cats”…sounds like an R&B band from the 60’s :)
Both are possibilities Tom… does feel like they need a name. I’d bet in limited sample size, this is the Cavs’ most effective lineup right now statistically…
The Sub Fuegos
Great game. Cavs rule. I can’t believe we are going to have the best backup PG in the league if we get Deron Williams. Griffin is straight up a genius.
Griff deserves the Exec of the Year trophy… as he has for the past two years. Probably won’t get it, but he should get a nice fat new contract from CavsDan this off season…
Why wait till then?