The Point-Fourward: Who Exactly Thinks What Now?
2017-06-07Four points I’m thinking about the NBA Finals…
1. Sports often give us a micro-example of macro human phenomena. We can talk about sports with the same passion with which we would talk about religion or politics, but with a conviviality that those other topics customarily lack (okay, there are some soccer hooligan riots that would suggest otherwise, but you know what I mean). We can learn about the machinations and influences of the modern media age in an arena that is inherently less toxic.
There was an article recently in the The New Yorker titled “Why Facts Don’t Change Our Minds”. It tackles how confirmation bias and social pressures essentially ruin a brain’s ability to recalibrate an opinion when given new information. The initial strong beliefs that come mostly from a “collective knowledge” are incredibly stubborn. We think that “we got this”, that we know how something works because it is so ubiquitous in our lives.
Sloman and Fernbach see this effect, which they call the “illusion of explanatory depth,” just about everywhere. People believe that they know way more than they actually do. What allows us to persist in this belief is other people. In the case of my toilet, someone else designed it so that I can operate it easily. This is something humans are very good at. We’ve been relying on one another’s expertise ever since we figured out how to hunt together, which was probably a key development in our evolutionary history. So well do we collaborate, Sloman and Fernbach argue, that we can hardly tell where our own understanding ends and others’ begins.
In general, it is a good thing. One doesn’t need to put one’s hand on the stove to know it’s hot. One need not invent the smartphone to be able to read this fine website. A delegation of power is great assuming a person recognizes that a culture’s accumulation of knowledge doesn’t make that individual the expert in all things.
The NBA Finals are full of narratives that have been established from a multitude of histories. This “common knowledge” about players, teams, coaches, etcetera, becomes a sort of gospel that is very difficult to deconstruct. When the national media are constantly echoing the same information and calling it basketball coverage, it can get difficult to discern which narratives are based on new and relevant information versus those based on tired information recycled from the past.
Obviously, every old piece of information isn’t trash. In the phrase “conventional wisdom”, one shouldn’t ditch the wisdom part in an adolescent moment of disdain for all things conventional. But if we have a desire to truly advance our understanding, we need to have the courage to question the masses while respecting the masses’ contribution to our individual knowledge base.
2. Let’s take a look at a couple mass sports media assertions about the Finals and see if “they are who we thought they were!”
“Steph Curry is healthy this year and is making amends for last year’s Finals.”
Anyone who reads Cavs: The Blog knows that I will rarely let an opportunity pass to rip apart the idea that Curry was injured during the 2016 Finals. He wasn’t. Curry was dead tired because the Cavaliers diligently ran him through screen action on almost every offensive play. He got straight pounded.
This year, the Cavs have not employed the same strategy. Maybe they are saving it. Maybe the desire to get out on the break has undermined their ability to seek out Curry’s defensive shortcomings. Or maybe the players are simply not focused enough to remember the gameplan. For whatever reason, the Cavs haven’t targeted Curry with the same intensity. In Zach Lowe’s great article detailing the Cavs offense, he states:
Curry guarded the screener on only five pick-and-rolls in Game 2, down from 13 in the opener, when the Cavs largely aped the game plan that won them the title last season, per STATS SportVU data provided to ESPN.
That is rather stupid on the Cavaliers part. The reason Curry looks healthier than he did last year is because the Cavs haven’t destroyed his legs by making him guard. Yes, the Warriors have more firepower and defensive flexibility with Durant out there, but as long as Curry is on the floor, the Cavs MUST go at him.
It doesn’t really matter if it isn’t quite as successful on a possession by possession basis. It is more important to wear him down over a (hopefully) long series than to worry about one particular break opportunity. That is how Curry’s rhythm got thrown off enough for people to question his health.
Quick aside: It is interesting that no one is mentioning Kyrie Irving’s ankle turn as a reason for Irving’s lackluster play. I don’t think that is the reason, but you smell what I’m cooking.
3. A similar plan should be used against Kevin Durant. Though he has filled out his frame since his early days in the league, he still doesn’t have a tremendously strong base. Durant did have a nice block against Love in the post, but Love got one to go earlier.
Regardless of outcome, the Cavs need Durant to use energy banging low against Kevin Love. They can’t allow Durant to relax off ball by letting him guard a player that is neither shooter nor banger. That frees him to play to his strengths without exploiting his literal weakness. Which brings us to the impetus of this piece.
“Iman Shumpert is a good defender and has done a decent job on Durant”
I flat out refute this statement. In Shumpert’s rookie season, he was dubbed a great defender and that designation has stuck with him over the duration of his mostly below average defensive career. Shump looks the part when he gets into his defensive stance. He makes enough well-timed strips of the ball to lend credence via highlight to his reputation. Still, Shump isn’t a plus defender and often is the main culprit on blown team rotations.
Add in his irresponsibly poor offense, and I would rather bench Shump for the series than increase his minutes. Let’s take a quick play-by-play look at the beginning of the second quarter for his “great” contributions in Game 2.
11:25 Shump bodies up in the mid-post and Durant misses. He’s the Durant stopper. Hooray. Macro bias confirmed!
11:09 Shumpert makes a totally unnecessary swipe at Ian Clark who is 25 feet from the basket even though Kyrie is there in decent position. There is no threat. Durant leaves Shump in his dust on a slow roll to the hoop making poor Kyle Korver cover for him thus leaving David West wide open to drill his pet mid-range jumper. This is not the result of good offense. It happens only because Shump reaches for no discernable reason.
Directly after, Durant gets to roam around like Bill Russell because he knows Iman can’t hurt him. The Dubs basically triangle triple cover Kyrie who turns it over.
10:39 Next possession. Clark sets a lazy screen for Durant on the right wing. Shump confuses Kyrie by not hard-trapping, switching or making any strong decision. Durant rises for an easy pull-up jumper with Shumpert and Kyrie both in no-man’s land.
10:04 The possession after Frye gets blocked at the rim, Shump gets the ball. Decides he shouldn’t make a single pass. He dribbles 12 times before getting blocked by West at the cup. He is then lazy getting back in transition. He needs to search out the nearest most threatening Warrior. He doesn’t find Thompson who drills a three for the Warriors giving them a 7-0 run to start quarter. All at least partially, if not wholly, because of one Iman Shumpert.
4. The Cavs haven’t gotten anything out of J.R. Smith yet, but playing Shumpert bigger minutes is not the answer. He is a false narrative. Despite what he clearly believes, Iman is closer to Mo Williams on defense and Tony Allen on offense than the other way around.
J.R.Smith is likely to play better at home in a better atmosphere. Yes, he has made some poor plays, but he has also been the victim of some awful calls. In this situation, I am more confident in the conventional wisdom of the decent player having a bounce back performance than a wild hope for Shumpert competency.
If you are simply determined to change the lineup, it should be Kyle Korver for Tristan Thompson. Slotting Korver on Draymond Green might lure Green into playing hero ball out of the post. Korver is a brilliant help defender and tougher in the post than one might think. He isn’t going to make the silly mistakes that doom a defense from the start.
Offensively, he could miss 10 shots in a row and the Warriors would still respect his jumper, opening the floor for driving lanes that don’t exist with Shumpert and/or Thompson on the floor. Zaza Pachulia wouldn’t be able to defend a lineup featuring that much shooting. Love has played very well at center. Tristan can guard(sag off) Iggy when the subs come in.
Bonus: “The Warriors are Unbeatable”
I wonder if people reread the obituaries written for the 2016 Cavs before repeating themselves this year. The Warriors might be unbeatable. The Cavs might make another amazing comeback. What you think right now probably has more to do with what you feel than what you know. Like in everything else, we think we know more than we do. In my very biased opinion, the series is far from over.
The writer of the article is ignoring his own premise about people thinking they know more than they do when he says the series isn’t over. It’s clear that the Cavs have no answer for the Warriors who are simple a better team and are better coached. They may not win game 4 but the series is over
Liggins sure looked good on Christmas day.
I feel there is nothing Cavs can do but hope our shotmakers start making their shots and the warriors start missing theirs.
Tristan could certainly show up – that might help.
This is super content Ben. I do think you’re doing a disservice to shump by handpickinng a bad quarter and not comparing his defense to any other of Durant’ defenders (Lebron hasn’t been great either), but the overall point carries. He takes far more than he gives. That said, we needed contributions from Dhante and Mo Williams last year to get over the hump…and shump is a better rebounder than both of them. He’s not trash…just shouldn’t start. The curry injury thing is funny. In that I totally don’t care cuz we won…and it’s infuriating to hear excuses being made… Read more »
Was on Facebook and they do this historical feed of what you wrote ‘x’ years ago…and on this day two years ago…Delly had game of his career and shut down Curry to win Game 3 and put Cavs up 2-1….so gotta believe somewhere right? GO CAVS!!
JR, Channing, and Kyrie have to play better. Cavs have to get some calls.
Great stuff. Totally agree about Shump. And his dribbling is just inane. They can’t get rid of him fast enough.
I hope you are right Ben. I will eliminate my frustration and hatred for Durant until after the series and channel the other Kevin…ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!
They added Durant. We didn’t add Durant. That’s the analysis of this series.
DERON IS HUGE —WE THOUGHT WE HAD THE PRODUCTION FROM HIM COMING INTO THIS SERIES ( TO MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF DELLY’S DEFENSE PRESENCE ) —-THINK KORVER IS READY FOR ONE OF THOSE ” NUCLEAR ” NIGHTS ——-NOT TRYING TO BE PESSIMISTIC BUT BELIEVE IF WE DON’T GET A ” W ” TONIGHT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT A POSSIBLE SWEEP—-BUT HEY ” STILL BELIEVING IN BELIEVELAND “—GO CAVS !!
coach nick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE0FAyax9Ys
I think we can turn this entire thing around if we win tonight with a good bench performance. We thought coming in that between Deron, Korver, Shump, Frye, and Jefferson, we would get a lot of contributions from our bench unit. Unfortunately, the bench has contributed nothing. Deron is 0-9 with 0 points and 4 assists in 33 minutes Korver is 2-7 with 8 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists in 43 minutes Shump is 3-12 with 11 points, 0 assists and 3 steals in 39 minutes Frye is 1-5 with 2 points in 11 minutes Combine that with Kyrie,… Read more »
The ‘Curry was/ wasn’t hurt’ narrative from last year is played out, and I’m personally just tired of it. He was coming off an injury, and I don’t think he was 100%, but I don’t think he was crippled and at 50% or whatever bollocks the likes of Amin Elhassan keeps claiming. I think the bottom line this year is that the Warriors can always keep one of Curry or Durant on the court. Cavs cannot keep Lebron on the court all the time unless they want him completely spent in the third. That and the Warriors are just better… Read more »
Yep. They signed Durant and became a great team.
A very good article.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-warriors-are-making-the-cavs-beat-themselves/?addata=espn:nba:teams
we need shooting more than we need the center position that is for sure. but i really dont think we can out run the warriors, even with love and lebron grabbing the boards. rather we play slow and physical and we lean on our guards for offense attacking curry with the hope they all play better. assuming we will atleast shoot better at home. joke with my friends our plan was to go down 3-0 this year then come back. i expected a flagrant by now and wish lebron would just guard durant and take the matchup more personal and… Read more »
haha. Yeah, starting Korver will make up for them having Kevin Durant.
Typical Cols binary response…. Nothing will DIRECTLY make up for them having Kevin Durant. That’s not what the statement meant. Heck, why do I bother, you will just ignore or blow past anything I say.
I just find it amusing. The Cavs had solved the warriors, then they got Durant. These minor moves are not going to move the needle. You need to stick with JR and hope he goes nuclear. Otherwise we are doomed.
Why isn’t it conceivable that Korver could go nuclear and draw more attention even if he doesn’t? JR hasn’t exactly been playing stellar defense. His fouls on jump shooters is really screwing up some good defensive possessions.
Cavs are only going to win if they play at their absolute peak. Since Peak JR>>>Peak Korver at this stage in their careers, they need JR to start and play great.
I don’t remember you saying the Cavs had ‘solved’ the Warriors when they were down 3-1 last year. I remember you being in full blown panic mode, and already giving up.
STARTING KORVER DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THAT BAD OF AN IDEA —-” THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX “—HE HAS STARTED PLAYOFFS GAMES BEFORE —–THE 1 THING THAT IS FRUSTRATING / SURPRISING IS THAT GOING INTO THE SERIES THE 1 HUGE ADVANTAGE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE POST MATCHUPS T.T. VS / ZA-ZA—MCVEE —HAS NOT MATERLIZED YET
I would say starting Korver is worth a try. +1
Worth what try though? JR’s defense is better than Korver’s, and Korver also can’t shoot. Korver hasn’t shot well in months.
I think they should start RJ or Shump over TT so they can cover KD from the tip (maybe even JR). This leaves LeBron to roam, rebound, and save energy. Per last CTB post, LeBron can initiate transition/fast offense when he gets the rebound. Most importantly, Cavs need to bait KD into ISO-post up ball. Live with KD going off for 40 in ISO (he’s getting his regardless) and make Warriors O stagnant. For gods sake, can Kyrie not act like he’s getting stab on every screen?!?!
Cavs are beating themselves by shrinking in the moment. Here’s this stat:
The Cavs have been shooting awful from the outside. They were shooting 32 percent on “open shots” and 22 percent on “wide open shots” in the first two games. That comes from the website FiveThirtyEight. That’s right, they are even worse on “wide open shots” than regular open shots.
The bench definitely has not stepped up.
Yeah, it’s been weird – opposition players last few teams we’ve faced (Boston excepted?) seemed to knock down the wide open shots. When Cavs players get the same shot, they seem nowhere near as effective as when they have someone closing out on them. Kev seems the exception – we know he hates even short players closing on his shot :)
Exactly, I don’t think Durant has anything to do with Cavs missing those wide open shots or not getting back on D.
Then you must have slept through the last 3 Finals games last year when the Cavs thoroughly solved the Warriors. Only one of those last three games was close.
What could have happened since then that made the Warriors suddenly a much much much better team? I wish I could think of something.
lol, coming back form 1-3 was historical. Read the article I posted above, how Cavs are beating themselves. Like I said, Durant has nothing to do with Cavs not coming back on transition D and missing open 3s. You can get to whining of Durant joining warriors if Cavs actually do their best at both ends of the floor.
LOL
The Cavs completely solved that fraud team. Then they added Durant and became a great team. That’s exactly what’s happened. The Cavs still have a chance because they are also a great team, but the margin for error is extremely slim. None of your suggestions remotely has any validity or basis in reality.
Go find a warriors blog.
Here is the basis and this is not your blog. You comments on other hand….
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-warriors-are-making-the-cavs-beat-themselves/?addata=espn:nba:teams
VERY GOOD ARTICLE- ” OPENED MY EYES ” ON THE THINKING PROCESS—–AGREE WITH YOU ON SHUMP WE ARE” WOWED” BY THE FEW GREAT DEFENSIVE PLAYS BUT TEND TO FORGET ( AS YOU VERY CLEARLY INDICATED / SHOWED ) ALL THE OTHER DEFENSIVE BLUNDERS ——–TY SAYS HE IS STICKING TO THE STYLE OF PLAY / NOT CHANGING ——-” STILL BLEIEVING IN BELIEVELAND “—GO CAVS !!