The Point Four-ward: They Are Simply People
2017-06-29Four Points I’m thinking about…
1. Back on an olden day in 1993, I received my first and only official professional jersey. It’s still in a drawer at my childhood home in Mentor. I wore it maybe three times as I didn’t want that new jersey smell to wear off or for the numbers to get all crinkly. Since then I’ve had a few other jerseys, but nothing with a name on the back(excepting my own, of course). I admit I find it a little strange to rock someone else’s identity in such a way. So what player warranted such unique love and affection?
That’s right. The legend, Bernie Kosar. And yes, it was his Dallas Cowboys jersey that I received. Please don’t confuse this with typical childhood front-running. I hated the Cowboys. They were an evil empire on par with the New York Yankees(okay, no one is on par with the Yankees, but you get my drift). The reason I had the blue Kosar jersey was because as much as my mother and I were die-hard Browns fans, we loved Bernie more. Mind you, this was directly after Bill Belichick began his Belichickian career ditching aging stars in the name of pragmatism. Considering the 1994 Browns went 11-5 with Vinny Testaverde at the helm, Belichick wasn’t wrong.
2. It didn’t matter. My preteen self didn’t know anything other than that this curly-haired man was a hero and my mother had a tendency to break out into song anytime she heard his name. We were devastated. Perhaps as an act of defiance or protest against the Browns’ front office, my mother got me that jersey. It wasn’t normal. We were/are Browns fans. Usually a little bit of perceived or, more frequently, real dysfunction couldn’t dissuade us from putting team first. But Bernie Kosar, man! Bernie!
During the last podcast, Nate and EG talked briefly about whether they cheer for the names on the back or the name on the front. Considering that the 2016 Cavaliers were the first and only one of my Cleveland professional teams to ever win a chip during my lifetime, it’s clear that I lean more toward dirty moldy laundry than individual players. Kosar was the lone exception.
In reality, almost everyone does both. It would be rather odd to totally disassociate the human beings playing for your team from the team itself. In the age of free agency, it would be all but impossible to cheer solely for individuals unless one doesn’t mind rooting for twenty different teams. Oh, I won’t even get into how fantasy sports has changed fandom. “I want the Browns to win, but for Tom Brady to throw seven touchdowns against them.” Ugh.
3. What I will say, is that I have started to root for the players more and more in recent years. Maybe it’s a function of age. These guys aren’t gods. They are just young men trying their hardest to maximize their talents and make a living doing so. I enjoy watching their development from teenagers to mature adults. The social media access in recent years has made it more possible to hear from these folks directly. Guys like Channing Frye and Richard Jefferson are just hilarious.
It could be all that; a relatively innocuous maturation that makes me see the guys through a different lens.
Or maybe it’s because these men are part of players’ unions that get continually bashed by rabid fans more concerned about their sports obsession than the treatment of the human beings who provide them joy.
Or that 18 year-olds can do a variety of miserable activities all over the globe in the name of war liberty, but they can’t play in a league for which they are qualified because owners don’t trust their GMs to draft well.
Or that LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or any other person who wants to choose the parameters of his work environment are raked over the coals for being disloyal to a bunch of fans who literally could not care less about their post-career health.
Or! perhaps that team owners like Dan Gilbert get all chummy with a President who has… hmm, how to put this…not been applauded by the majority of the African American community.
4. Look, I still love my Cleveland teams. I certainly am not about to become a fan of some other person’s laundry. But the players are criticized at almost every turn while the owners are considered largely infallible because of their fortunes. It’s only when an owner is abjectly awful that the public begins to side with labor and not with management. Really folks, the vast majority of us have far more in common with the players than we do the owners. Let’s give the players a break.
With that in mind, if Paul George and/or LeBron James want to play for the Lakers in 2018, fine. Have at it, guys. If Melo and Wade want to force buyouts so they can join King James on the Cavaliers in 2017, that would be admittedly cooler. Both things could happen. I’m not going to worry about any player leaving via free agency, forcing a trade, or any other thing that a talented employee could do to maximize his happiness and value. They deserve that respect and agency. They aren’t all saints, but they certainly aren’t demons. I’ll just be excited to see how all the player movement translates to basketball success. I love basketball. The rest is a mildly interesting diversion.
I MIGHT BE OVERLY OPTIMISTIC // STILL THINK “BIG EDY ” TAVARES COULD HELP —-ONE THING YOU CAN’T COACH AND THAT IS SIZE WHICH HE HAS PLENTY OF EVEN IF THE NBA IS EVOLVING AND THE ROLE OF THE BIG POST HAS DIMINISHED / STILL NEED SIZE ………ARE CAVS GOING TO MAKE ” ENCHILADA ” AN OFFER OR LET HIM GO
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/880184692275851265
Ahahahaha good luck Mo, can’t see anyone touching someone like that
FESTUS EZILIA ( KNOW I BUTCHERED SPELLING ) WAIVED BY PORTLAND …..? YES / NO
Depends if you think Tavares has any potential. He’s unplayable against GS as we found out when LeBron torched him the year before.
WE SAW WHAT ‘ GOOD RONDO ” CAN DO VS CELTICS IN THE PLAYOFFS ——MAN WHEN THE CLOCK STRIKES ” MIDNIGHT ” ALL HELL MAY BREAK LOOSE OR IT COULD BE VERY QUIET –WAIT AND SEE ATTITUDE BY GM.S
Sure doesn’t help the Cavs cut their top two executives in the gm office. Gilbert sure gets kudos for his epic checkbook, but not his basketball executive decisions. Hope we don’t get a player equivalent of rehiring Mike Brown during free agency.
Bulls just cut Rondo.
I mean, he’s better than Felder?
and DWill2
Rubio off the Board – to Jazz for a first.
Minnesota is having a great offseason.
Who are then intending to use the cap space on? Otherwise that trade doesn’t make them better.
I assume they’re going after Lowry.
Lowry
Dumb trade. Great trade for jazz.
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/880857059066920964
Oh oh this doesn’t good.
Sound good **
I thought we learned to ignore the tweets. Everytime he tweets there’s panic! at the Blog and then the Cavs make the Finals again.
Alright! Cols is the voice of optimism again!
Maybe LeBron is giving advice to the Clippers. Or, DG + DG?
Maybe its just wife and kids stuff too – not cryptic bball related
First cryptic off season tweet that I can recall from LBJ.
He’s just quoting from Jay-Z’s new album lol… I guess he’s listening to it now.
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/880834483242532864
That’s very Spursian!
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/880817619762380800
Sounds like Cedi is coming to America.
https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/880847698647240706
The one thing the Cavs have is trade exceptions. Finding guys other teams want to jettison to clear cap room would be a good idea.
On sign and trades… “Starting in 2013-14, teams cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 91) if their team salary is above the apron at the conclusion of the trade.”
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q23
Ok, thank you. I wonder what the point of the rule is, though? Wouldn’t this hurt teams with players that want to leave in free agency anyways, by limiting the number of teams that can trade for said player?
It’s to punish teams over the apron and make it so they can’t skirt the intent of the cap: to force talent distribution.
So there is no scenario in which the Cavs could land PG13? The Cavs could only try to get Melo or DWade on buyouts?
They can land pg13 because he is ready under contract. Cavs cannot be involved in a team signing their free agent and then trading him to the cavs
The Cavs are going to stand pat (not by choice) and see what happens with Melo and Wade buyouts during the season. I really don’t see much else happening. TT isn’t tradeable IMO – I can’t think of any contender that would give us something we want for an OREB guy, and non-contenders have zero use for TT. Indiana doesn’t want Love (because that doesn’t do anything for them), so we need a Denver/Phoenix to give up the young players + picks that Indiana wants. At the end of the day, Boston and LA can have George if they choose… Read more »
JR was awesome in the Finals at least. Running it back it fine by me. If we get 2016 WCF Durant instead of crazy making everything Durant (and if you watch he was taking the same shots in both series, just went nutso in ours), we win the title. Or if they lose Iggy. Or if Deron doesn’t play like Finals Delly.
I’d like to improve the bench, but if not, bring it back.
Good points, Gordon and Cols.
I think it is unlikely there will be a big deal involving the Cavs, and that is probably a good thing. A really good GM can figure out a way to make the bench a lot stronger. That has to happen. Lue has got figure out how to get more out of his role players.
Then we need to get to the finals and hope to get lucky.
Still no GM
Read the Pluto article I linked to. It will make you feel better.
Cavs should go after Blake Griffin
??? for the right cost I agree but I’m not sure he will accept a huge pay cut to come to Cleveland. Unless the Cavs trade TT and Shump or Frye for him.
For the umpteenth time, it’s practically impossible for the cavs to be on the signing end or receiving end of a sign and trade. The only sign and trade they could do would be Korver for an exception and draft picks.
How many times?
????
Why can’t we be on the receiving end of a S&T? Ignoring the fact that nobody wants our contracts, wouldn’t we just have to match dollars for dollars?
They can’t because they are over the luxury tax.
So you can’t even do a dollar-for-dollar trade if you’re over the cap?
I believe you can do a dollar for dollar trade. You can’t do a S&T. So if you wanted Paul George, you’d just hope that he just resigns with the Cavs in the off season.
I’m all for improving the talent on the team, but I don’t think a universe exists where we get Blake Griffin this year.
We can’t get him, and he is way overrated. He is exciting, but not the kind of player that leads to winning it all.
I can’t believe you’re from Mentor! My one and only trip to Ohio was to pick up a car in Mentor that I bought on eBay. Everyone there was fabulous. Seriously, I had this idea that people in Ohio were always surly and objectionable. I’m pleased to report that Mentor changed my mind. I’m not surprised to learn that it’s the land of your nativity. Keep doing what you do, the writing is good, the analysis is insightful, and it’s a pleasure every day. (Incidentally, I’m a Duke fan, bring from Durham. I’ve been a casual Cavs fan since the… Read more »
It seems the Celtics will be the favorites to add PG13. Since the Pacers management are the ones to make the decision of where he is going they will obviously choose the Celtics who have the better assets I guess. I wonder if the decision was made by PG13 where he would choose to go Cavs, Celtics, Lakers or Rockets?
Steven A Smith apparently saying Melo is open to a buyout. Dunno if the Knicks pull the trigger or how connected Smith is. However, considering it is the Knicks, Smith may actually have real sources. Not sure why we would be hearing rumblings about this now. I would think NY wouldn’t go this route until the season.
Melo going nowhere is my bet.
Why is that? I really have no insight into the knicks. Was Jackson the main problem with Melo?
Because Dolan is not paying him a $55 million dollar buyout to play for someone else, and Melo isn’t waiving his no trade clause.
And yeah Jackson was fairly ridiculous with Melo. Dude signed him to a ridiculous deal and got exactly what you know you’re going to get with Melo then complained about it.
Right – the Knicks have no incentive to let Melo leave for nothing. Melo would have to forfeit the majority of the money he is owed for the Knicks to consider it, and there is no real incentive for Melo to do that. It seems like he really doesn’t want to move away from his kid, so I just don’t see it happening. Maybe a midseason thing, though?
Hey. Really enjoyed this Ben. Though I’d offer this counterpoint… https://cavstheblog.com//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////?p=43007
From the Pluto article “3. I’ve talked to some people at ESPN who know Billups, and they said he is a cut above many of the former players who work there because he really does his homework.”
I have no opinions on Billups, but as a general rule, if Pluto puts a chip on red, I’ll put my life savings on black.
Pluto as usual has a good take on the current situation.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_cavaliers_scribbles_55.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index
I enjoyed this perspective, Ben. I remember buying a Bernie Cowboys jersey also. It’s so funny that we as fans see player departures purely through the prism of whether they left or were discarded…
Who are the owners that ppl give a free pass?
Very reasonable views. I have never had a problem with guys leaving. I didn’t even really have a problem with LBJ leaving the first time. I expected it. I had major issues with how he left and what went down in the Boston series, but as far as him leaving, that is his choice. The only major beef I have with players in the capacity of their job is if they have a toxic attitude (e.g. Andrew Bynum) and/or slack because they don’t want to be in Cleveland. That is a huge issue to me, since they are getting far… Read more »
Agree with JOHN B. The biggest factor in the LeBron rage in Cleveland was not so much that it happened, but how it went down, particularly after it looked like he quit at the end of the Boston series. Realistically, there was about zero chance of pulling out that last game with Boston, but he should have went down swinging. As for the “take my talents to South Beach” fiasco, I am sure LeBron did not realize how bad it would go, and it was supposedly someone else’s idea. On the other hand, about the only place where LeBron is… Read more »
Reasoned take. DG shouldn’t have sent the letter. As much as I loved it. He should’ve written it and then deleted it the next morning. Expressing sadness and disappointment but wishing him well would’ve been a far wiser move. Cavs Dan is a bit of a douche though.
You are right about the letter. Everyone would be wise to NOT send anything until the next day when you are p!ssed off.
I’m at peace if LeBron leaves. The franchise should probably reboot itself after that, but the building process is fun.
I won’t be thrilled but he said he was staying as long as Gilbert spent. I’ll hold him to that.
I heard that the Cavs may not be bringing over Cedi this year, because they’d have to use the MLE. Not sure if this is accurate. I also noticed he’s not on the summer league roster. Tell me if I’m wrong.
Your reasoning sounds correct to me. I dont think Cedi is coming.
I was thinking pg13 wont join the cavs because he doesnt want to pull a durant and join the team that beat him.
Durant is a puss of the highest magnitude
The difference is that Indiana didn’t have a shot at the Cavs because it was PG13 and no one else, and the fact that they are rebuilding, where OKC was not. The Thunder were Russ and Durant, and had the Warriors down 3-1.
Agree with TheOtherJason AND with JoeyB.
Exactly, I agree with JoeyB.
ANY THOUGHTS IF THE CAVS RESIGN DERRICK ‘ ENCHILADA ” WILLIAMS / KORVER ——–DOES BILLUPS GIVE AN ANSWER BEFORE FREE AGENCY STARTS
If they can get him cheap, I am all for it. Maybe that is why Lue didn’t play him, to keep his future salary down.
There is a lot I like about Lue, but when you are in a series and it looks like the game plan from game 1 has little chance of working for any game, every coach not named Lue pulls out a plan B. Given that the lineups with DEW were trouncing teams in the regular season, not to give that a try is beyond dumb.
Laundry. And yeah, LeBron gets a lifetime pass for winning a title. It will suck if he leaves because the Cavs will suck again, but he can do whatever he wants IMO.
Durant, though, is still a coward for blowing a 3-1 lead by playing like crap and then joining up with the team that beat him when he had a good enough team and may have been the favorites to win it all had he stayed.
I agree 100% on the Durant part but disagree about Lebron, he should stay. No matter where he goes he will not beat the Warriors if they stay healthy. If he leaves it will hurt his legacy even more specially street all the money that DG has spent on this team.
Come on man have some class. Let’s just give Durant the credit. He was the difference why we were beaten by the Dubs. I think their system works that’s why KD was able to showcase his talents compared to OKC which was Iso heavy. Look green, curry and Thompson were not supposed to be all star players when they were drafted as compared to kyrie, LeBron and love. Last year was historic for us but think about it, talent wise our big three were much better than the Dubs by a mile. We should have beaten them easily last year.