Summer League Winds Down
2017-07-16Editor’s Note, this originally was scheduled to run July 15th, but due to some technical difficulties is posting today. Thanks again, to CLF , who wrote this, for all his coverage throughout Summer League play.
Summer League Recap 1: Lakers 94, Cavs 83
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQpfNAIPFbg
Thursday was the first night of the Vegas playoffs with the Cavs ranked Second overall. They ran into a buzzsaw in the form of the Los Angeles Lakers, who controlled the game from the jump. If I recall correctly, the Cavs never held a lead in this game. Here are the takeaways.
- This was the worst defensive performance of the summer from the Cavs. Lonzo Ball was able to distribute the ball to his bigs all night. You can’t help but wonder how Brandon Paul would’ve fared against Ball given the success of the starting unit’s defense with Brandon in the lineup . If there was a bright spot on defense, it was Edy Taveres, who contributed three blocks for the night in limited action.
- The offense was a mixed bag. While they did score 83, which is not bad for Summer League, they shot a miserable 36% from the field and 7.7% (1-13) from three. Kay Felder finally had a “breakout,” but had an extremely cold start to the game, and it took him 26 shots to score 25 points. He did heat up and carry the team back into the game in the 3rd quarter. Kay has got to get better getting into a rhythm immediately if he’s every going to get any kind of bench role with Cleveland.
- Cleveland’s other main offensive weapon last night was Sir’Dominic Pointer, who scored 11 (5-8 FGs) off the bench in 19 minutes. Pointer brought great energy and playmaking and has to be gaining in confidence after a few solid performances.
- I need to give a shout out to Anthony Gill, who quietly delivered 9 points on 4-7 shooting and 10 rebounds in 26 minutes. He’s been a great glue guy for the starting lineup.
- The shooting guards didn’t deliver tonight in Brandon Paul’s absence. TJ Williams got the start in place of Brandon Paul and proceeded to go 2-16 FGs for the night in 30 minutes of action. He had been playing a combo/point guard with the second unit, so it might not have been fair to him to play off the ball so much with the starting unit. He clearly wasn’t comfortable and had an extremely poor performance.
- Andrew White III was also bad in the two-guard spot. He went 0-4 on the night and wasn’t effective on defense either. His most memorable play of the night was getting blown by a Lakers’ player on a drive. With Felder dominating the ball for the starting unit, it may have made more sense for White to get some run with the starting unit to open the floor up and provide a better spot up shooter to run alongside Felder.
- One thing to remember about the Lakers’ summer squad is how much talent they developing this summer. They have a lottery pick who will most definitely start this year in Lonzo Ball, who finished with 16 points, 10 boards, and 12 dimes. Ball has steadily improved his play over the summer and was in complete control of the game. He can’t shoot yet, and the points might end up being the hardest part of triple doubles for him. He has elite vision and passing skills though. Check out this dime against the Nets.
- Ball is also already a legit sensation. His triple triple double highlights against the Cavs already have multiple videos with over a Million hits on YouTube. He may get that billion dollar shoe deal.
- They have a surefire NBA player in Kyle Kuzma, a perfect small ball big who has great chemistry with Ball. Travis Wear is another bench big that should be on the Lakers’ roster come November. The Lakers were also sporting the 2016-17 D-League’s MVP in Vander Blue. In short, the Lakers are using Summer League to develop a lot of pieces that should contribute to their squad this season.
The Cavs got a chance to rebound Friday against the 3-1 Toronto summer squad.
Summer League Recap 2: Cavs 78, Raptors 75 (OT)
Saturday, the Cavs wrapped up their summer season on a high note, beating the summer Raptors 78-75 in a close battle that went to overtime. The Cavs and Raptors sat their most “valuable” assets, so the second units for both teams had a chance to shine especially given the short rotations. Some observations:
- The Cavs defense stepped it up, holding Toronto to 38% shooting from the field, 26% from three. The Cavs went smaller tonight starting four guards, Sir’Dominic Pointer, Roosevelt Jones, Andrew White, and TJ Williams, along with Edy Taveres. The Cavs stayed small with bringing Sam Cassell Jr. and Gerald Beverly off the bench for a seven-man rotation. A recurring theme has been the Cavs being able to keep long, athletic, quick perimeter players on the court that allowed for the suffocating defense all over the court. The Cavs brought great discipline in their switching and were able to eke out enough energy in spite of their condensed schedule and rotation.
- The star for tonight was SirDominic Pointer with 14 points off 7-14 shooting, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, 7 steals, and 2 blocks. He had great energy from start to finish and his handprints were all over this game. One thing about Pointer is certain, he’s playing like he wants a job… and there’s definitely opportunity here with Cleveland to fill a role off the bench.
- TJ Williams had a bit of a bounce back game after last game’s disaster, with 21 points off 6-19 shooting from the field. Williams is infinitely better with the ball in his hands at PG. He was hot early, cooled off later as fatigue took hold. But Williams was able to make plays late when it mattered helping pull off the comeback win. Williams has an NBA body, but needs to work on dribble and shooting if he wants a future in the NBA. His handle and his J aren’t up to snuff yet.
- Andrew White also bounced back a bit with 18 points off 6-16 shooting, including 3-5 from three, plus 6 rebounds. He was at his best when he came off screens and his teammates fed him. He didn’t look good making his own shot. He did flash on the defensive end a couple of times, which is a great sign for his future potential as a 3 and D player. While he may not have been the most impressive Cavs of the summer, his shooting and NBA body have to be benefits worth future consideration.
- I do need to give a shout out to Edy Taveres. He improved as Summer League progressed. He looked better in the PnR action and looked more active on defense with 3 blocks and 11 rebounds, including 9 defensive rebounds. Kudos to him for staying on his grind.
Congrats to the summer Cavs on going down with a fight. The Cavs have at least two guys who will be on the roster at the start of training camp, and one more who should get a legit shot at at least a two-way contract, in Pointer.
Parting Thoughts.
- The NBA Summer League is officially a thing now. NBA legends came out to watch the festivities, along with NBA coaches and players, including our own LeBron James. There were sold out games and high-level competition, even if the skill was lacking at times. Summer League has morphed into the preview showcase for the rookie class as well and the 2017 class did not disappoint. And now with two-way contracts, I expect Summer League to grow and prosper.
- It was very cool to see LeBron at Summer League. As soon as he entered the arena, everyone was aware of his presence, and he alone elevated the energy of a rather ordinary game. I also loved the fact he came in to watch Lonzo Ball on a random night as opposed to the sold-out opening weekend… it tells me that LeBron is a die hard fan of basketball. He wasn’t there to be seen, he was there to watch. Also, commentators speculated that LeBron might’ve been there to help scout the Cavs’ potential opponents in the pending playoff game. Having the best player in the world at Summer League says something positive to me.
- The rookies at Summer League acquitted themselves very well. Some standouts include Jayson Tatum, Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz, Dennis Smith Jr., Josh Jackson, DeAaron Fox, Donavan Mitchell… there’s more names I’m forgetting. Another cool story about the rookies was how Celtic Jaylon Brown arranged a night out for all of the rookies who were too young to drink. While such judgments are superficial, it really seems like there’s a ton of young, talented, high-character guys coming into the league… and I can’t help thinking that LeBron James is a looming figure that influences these guys today.
Ladies and gentlemen, it’s been a pleasure to cover Summer League with CtB for you… GO CAVS!!!
I POSTED THE SAME THING ABOUT TY LAWSON—–WORTH A GAMBLE I THINK —-IS ANYONE PURSUING MIROTIC ?
Being restricted makes it tough.
I know we signed Calderon which was a mistake but what do you think about Ty Lawson he was alright for Kings last year.
Rather try Tyler Ennis
Well, we have gotten a little younger. The Jonses were both on the other side of 35 and Deron was what, 33? Over 100 for the three of them. Calderon is 35-36, Green 30, Cedi 22. That 88. 15 years younger so far pending the 4th change. Tony Allen for Derrick would give it all back.
A lot of good points came up in the discussion. I think Gordon had the best point: What else could any GM have done? (Other than the breaking news about George). If that is the case, DG should elevate the current guy, pay him, and let him hire some staff.
As for “The Woz” and Hot Sauce, wasn’t it Griff who was setting up that trade?
Maybe Griff did have second thoughts. He should have: Love is signed for three years, and George for one. That is not exactly a no brainer. OKC might trade George for Love right now.
Really though Love is only signed for this year and next and a player option which he will likely decline. So it’s two years of Love vs one year of George. I’d do it because George fits that well but it’s not an easy decision.
No. Love is signed through 2020. No opt outs on either side.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/kevin-love-6132/
Either way, it’s not like George would have made us favorites over the warriors. It would have helped us matchup way way better on defense with them, but it wouldn’t put us over the top. Additionally, LBJ would have had to play power forward against them the whole time. You know he wouldn’t have liked that even though that is what would be the best lineup with PG.
Nope. His final year is a player option.
I provided my documentation below. I admit it could be wrong. Where’s yours?
Basketball reference has it as a player option. And all the podcasts when discussing trading Love (like Nate Duncan’s, Lowe) had it as a player option. It’s a player option.
Love has a player option in his fifth year. http://hoopshype.com/player/kevin-love/salary/
But, Kyrie does not have a player option. http://hoopshype.com/player/kyrie-irving/salary/
I think this is likely too generous to Gilbert, but is there any way Griff didn’t want to move Love for George and Gilbert did. So Gilbert fired Griff, had Billups lined up to replace (assuming George would come), then lost out on George, and is now left holding the bag?
https://twitter.com/SportsPinPoint/status/887424198523604992
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/887439265856147457
ALSO HEARD THEY HAVE INTEREST IN ALLEN / BEASLEY / MOTIEJUNAS
Like the first two. Not sure i wouldn’t rather have Dwill over Beasly. Also would like Tyler Ennis
I’m convinced as soon as we say somebody’s name that we want, someone in the Cavs front office shocks themselves while looking at that player’s name and consider it an ill omen and turn against us…
If they can get Tony Allen it will salvage some form of hope in this disappointing off-season.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/887350600110927873
This makes me sad. It better bet completely unreliable…
Seriously?
How am I supposed to know anymore?
He wouldn’t affect the average age of the roster very much.
I agree with everyone that the Cavs have screwed a bunch of things up. But we an still the odds on fave to reach the finals. Then we can hope for a miracle. I suggest playing”You sexy thing” by Hot Chocolate to get prepped for the season. Hey! there is a live version by the Tom Tom Club on Youtube. I’m off to check that out.
Problem is that LeBron shouldn’t be expected to hope for a miracle at this stage of his career. Specially after doubling the value of the franchise singlehandedly.
Maybe that miracle is Dan Gilbert selling the team?
So, who do you know with that kind of money that will keep them in Cleveland for sure?
Wait a minute. The dubs are undoubtedly the greatest team assembled, largely due to flukes. So you think LeBron should expect to be sure to beat them, just because he is LeBron? Should MJ have been expected to win with the Wizards just because he was MJ?
No, I don’t expect LeBron to beat the dubs just because he’s LeBron. What I would expect is for Gilbert to pay his GM what he’s worth, in order to keep him, specially during an important off season like this one. I would expect Gilbert to understand that LeBron has maybe 2 more seasons of being the best player in the NBA and needs to be surrounded with talent in order to get a shot at GS. Meaning Gilbert will need to pay up. I would expect Gilbert to have lined up a GM the moment he decided Grif wasn’t… Read more »
The fact that you think losing Griffin is preventing us from turning a hugely capped out, assetless team into one that isn’t capped out and has assets, is kind of absurd. Whether we have a GM right now has so little bearing on the roster we move forward with, it’s laughable to think otherwise. We’ve gone to 3 straight NBA Finals. If not for Durant pulling the ultimate anti-competitive move, we’d likely be back-to-back champs. What do you want us to do? Keep railing on the owner, sure, but when you’re done complaining about that… what do you think Griffin… Read more »
Gordon is the only one talking sense here
MoveS by the way… don’t forget he also took a paycut to keep GSW from being capped out after scurrying to join them after losing.
No he didn’t. The warriors are not capped out as well. He took less to save his owner money. Which is dumb.
Griffin would be a legit GM. As opposed to now, when no one knows who the hell the Cavs GM/ President is. The Cavs FO right now is a tire fire. That some go ahead and defend the situation is hilarious. Whatever Griffin ‘woulda done’ is immaterial.
I enjoy Cols’ hilarious spin, as always.
“TALKING HEADS ” ( REMAINED ANONYMOUS ) SAID LEBRON VERY FRUSTRATED WITH CAVS NON – INVOLVEMENT OFF SEASON TO GET BETTER ??/– WHAT TO BELIEVE— OF COURSE LEBRON HIMSELF WAS NOT REAL ACTIVE IN RECRUITING EITHER ………SURE THIS WILL ALLOW MEDIA TO ‘SPIN ” IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO
He may well be.
But it is not obvious that any more could have been done.
Also not clear that LeBron has helped too much himself. Between insisting on top dollar for himself and his Klutch agency teammates, the team is in a bind. The Cavs also had to scramble to make room when he came by giving away draft picks and players. If he had either announced earlier (probably had not made up his mind yet) or given the team the first year to work things out, they would be in a lot better shape now.
What more could have been done? How about at least the perception of stability, and having a GM in place? Either Griff or a backup lined up in case he didn’t want to be back. How about not wasting a roster spot on a guy whose highest upside is Isaiah Thomas, a score point first guard who cannot win in the playoffs because he’s 5-9 (an inch taller than Kay!) How about two total turd free agent signings? LeBron has every right to be pissed. I’m pissed.
And let me not compare Kay to Isaiah. He’s not even in Isaiah Thomas’s category. Right now Kay isn’t even in Isaiah Canaan’s category. I’m pretty Isaiah Crowell would be a better basketball player. Heck. Rip torn, Agent K from Men in Black is a better Kay than Kay Felder.
But is Cannan from Detroit? That seems to be the criteria for Comic Sans Dan.
Whether or not they sign JR and/or TT to those contracts, the Cavs are over the cap. So you either have that depth or you play the James Joneses of the world meaningful playoff minutes. The only guy I think they overpaid for is Shump, because he stinks.
I believe Jeff Zillgitt from USA Today reported it. I respect him, and do believe what he writes. And I’m not surprised at all.
LeBron is such a tool sometimes. If this is true. James has Klutch get overpriced deals for TT & JR. He gets old guys/friends roster spots that should be developing younger players. He signs short deals & that pressure the team to win now. Then he bitches when the team is over the cap & has no younger players.
Dan Gilbert running to a photo op with the Cubs at the White House with Trump does not help.
Maybe he’ll sell the team to Leslie Alexander?
SOUNDS AS IF MOUTE WAS GOING TO HOUSTON REGARDLESS—–IF NOT ALLEN IS TY LAWSON WORTH THE GAMBLE —–KJG SAID RAY FELTON WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT BY THE CAVS BUT TURNED DOWN
Interesting that the narrative was the Clippers needed a small forward but then CP3 convinces the starting small forward to join him in Houston…..
I remain unconvinced on Mbah a Moute’s shot. Very good defender.
Well, Houston got Tucker & Mbah a Moute & Chris Paul. Still, I’d prefer Tony Allen.
I finally get the plan the Cavs FO has this offseason. Let everybody of real value against Golden State go to Houston and hope they beat GS in the Western Playoffs, Then, we can beat a worn down Houston team in the Finals. Sounds like a good plan. /s
The Cavs have a FO?
lol right.
Mbah a Moute for vet minimum…… WTF
GOOD SUMMER RECAP—MISSED THE TORONTO GAME —-WOULD SAY ( ALONG WITH FELDER/ TAVARES ) POINTER / WILLIAMS / WHITE GETTING CAVS INVITES —-POINTER A SHOT ( ALONG WITH TAVARES / FELDER ) TO MAKE THE TEAM ALONG WITH CEDI ——-I KNOW AT TIMES TAVARES LOOKS LIKE A ” FISH OUT OF WATER ” BUT HIS SIZE AND POTENTIAL ARE INTRIGUING —-HE CAN DEFINETELY DISRUPT ON DEFENSE AND NOT A ” FOUL SHOOTER ” LIABABLITY —–SIR “D” SHOULD CALL KORVER UP RIGHT NOW AND SCHEDULE REGULAR SESSIONS WITH HIM—OTHER PARTS OF HIS GAME / ALONG WITH HIS CONFIDENCE HAVE IMPROVED IMMENSELY… Read more »
The only player I’d give a 2-way deal from this summer league group is Sir Dominic Pointer. I’m not interested in Felder, or Tavares, which I know are under contract.
Man, the Rockets are stealing everyone
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/886701940087767040
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/886705633399066624
So we could have had him if we had a front office?
Sounds about right. ????
Rockets have gotten a lot better this offseason. The Cavs, not so much…
Watch them grab Tony Allen and Melo now.
Wouldn’t be at all surprised. You can get a lot done with a competent front office…
At least they play out West. Maybe they can steal a couple games from the Warriors in the conference finals.
Thank you CLF for all the info and great recaps. Hopefully the coaches find that much needed energy/smart defense guy out of these bunch.