From Distance: Grumpily Taking on The Czar
2017-12-14Four point play…
1. I was excited to hear ex-Cavaliers coach, Mike Fratello, in the booth with Austin Carr and Fred McLeod Tuesday night. The Czar has a little more time on his hands this season without having to call the Brooklyn Nets games every night. He is a fun analyst, but more importantly, Mike was a perfect example of a coach who tailored his basketball strategy to his players’ strengths.
Fratello’s Atlanta Hawks teams of the 80s featured an uptempo offense that scored at will. It was led by the now underrated, “Human Highlight Film, Dominique Wilkins. Those teams mostly fell short in the playoffs against Larry Bird’s Celtics squads, but it certainly wasn’t because they lacked offensive explosion.
He followed that coaching tenure by turning the Cleveland Cavaliers into a defensive juggernaut. Most impressively, Fratello’s 1997-1998 team gave heavy minutes to four rookies, Brevin Knight, Derek Anderson, Cedric Henderson, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Normally, rookies aren’t particularly good on defense, regardless of talent. That team, led on the floor by Shawn Kemp, was ranked first in defensive rating. That’s somewhat insane considering the youth. It’s almost as though Mike Fratello was the anti-Larry Brown. Brown detested playing younger players. Fratello coached them up, threw them on the floor, and they flourished.
That team holds a special place in my heart. It didn’t end all that well in the playoffs against Reggie Miller’s Indiana Pacers, but at the time, it seemed as though the Cavs had nowhere to go but up. Big Z and Brevin Knight made All-Rookie First Team, and Derek Anderson and Cedric Henderson made the Second Team. Shawn Kemp was a legit star and Z looked to be healthy after his lost 1996-1997 season. It wasn’t ridiculous to compare Zydrunas to fellow rookie, Tim Duncan.
We know how things played out. Ilguaskas injured his other foot after signing a huge deal, never to regain his athleticism. The awful NBA lockout gave Shawn Kemp time to eat his prime away. Derek Anderson struggled with injuries before getting traded to the Clippers, and Knight and Henderson never developed much further.
That season was the last time the Cavs made the playoffs before LeBron James 1.0 broke the drought in 2006. What looked like a young dynasty in the making was interrupted by injury, a lost NBA season and general weirdness. Fratello was fired after the 22-28 strike shortened campaign, and Cleveland floundered for the next four seasons. Who knows whether Fratello really would have wanted to continue coaching that decimated roster, but he certainly wasn’t canned for lack of coaching acumen.
Anytime I see “The Czar”, I think of that fun team and experience another little pang of regret for what Big Z’s career could have been. My second thought is what interesting thing will Fratello point out this game?
2. For that reason, I was a little startled by how reductive Mike was in his brief stint in the Cleveland booth. After watching one Cedi Osman failed three, he intimated that Osman has a bad shot. He followed that one up with a hard take on Luke Babbitt. Fratello basically said that Luke Babbitt came into the league known as a shooter, but couldn’t hit a shot until this season. That felt weird right out of his mouth. I checked Babbitt’s career stats and sure enough, the dude shot 43% from deep in just his second season. To be fair, Babbitt hasn’t gotten a lot of minutes throughout his career, but judging from his three point percentages, it doesn’t seem to be because he has had trouble connecting from behind the arc.
Why am I bothering to write about generally irrelevant remarks from a lifetime NBA guy? Because Austin Carr and Fred McLeod immediately agreed with both of Fratello’s takes. The guys pointed out how Osman banked in a three the other day and tacitly agreed with Fratello’s Babbitt remarks.
It is a microcosm of the announcing culture in the NBA. TV announcers are trained to never directly correct any mistake their partner makes on air. There are many elegant methods used by the personalities that help them to agree and adjust instead of disagree and correct. It is considered bad form to call out a partner in that way. It makes for good television. It also makes it incredibly entertaining when a booth partnership is comfortable enough to joke and rib without fear of one person taking offense.
It is basically a big game of Improvisational Theater. The Improv golden rule of “Yes, and…” is employed every night. Two Improv partners who have worked with each other for years can throw in a few “yes, and you are completely wrong” because they trust each other. Throw a new guy in the booth, and people will rely on their training.
Fine. Who cares?
I’ll get to the point. As a rule, I always listen to the home announcers when I’m watching League Pass. It helps give me an idea of how opposing announcing teams view the Cavaliers’ roster. I’m always curious to hear how many old, out of date scouting reports are still used to describe players whom I know very well.
Some common themes:
J.R. Smith is a poor defender and a bit of a knucklehead.
Iman Shumpert is Tyronn Lue’s primary defensive stopper.
Kyle Korver can shoot the ball, but the team really struggles defensively when he is out there.
There are more. They are mostly either expired or simply incorrect. And yet, almost every announcing team will articulate the three above and a host of other inaccuracies. People will naturally believe what they hear from the so-called experts. If you train both the announcers and the viewers to agree with what they hear, it can get even worse.
This seemingly innocuous distribution of “information” forms the opinions of millions of fans. Maybe it makes for smoother television, but it also promotes a “common knowledge” that is based on platitudes and banality. Since Fratello is one of the best, just think about how much nonsense we get from lesser basketball minds. We need to do better. Think of the children.
3. Speaking of misinformation and general nonsense, the chatter around LeBron James going to the Houston Rockets next season is getting obnoxious. I do everything I can to avoid ESPN’s talking heads. If it weren’t for Zach Lowe, I might avoid the website all together. Unfortunately, it seems to extend beyond the “world wide leader”. One is hard pressed to find a single basketball site that hasn’t covered this new fantasy with the illusion of truth.
Enough already. Yes, LeBron would be good there. LeBron James is the greatest basketball player on the planet. He’d be good with any team. Line them all up, add LeBron James, and voilà, the team resembles a Finals squad. Oh wait, except the Lakers. And that’s why we have to read all this silliness about the Rockets. All these cute experts had LeBron going to the Lakers a month ago. Now that Lonzo Ball’s broken shot has dissuaded even the biggest “Bron to LA” believer into reevaluating the assumption, some other team has to take over as destination number one.
Look, it’s possible LeBron goes to play somewhere else. I highly doubt it, but it would be prudent to keep it on the table, both for him and for us. But, do we really have to send him to every team that enjoys a couple weeks of success? Aren’t there other stories to cover in the NBA? (Yes, I know I’m contributing to the problem by bringing it up here. sigh).
4. Go East, young man? For all the talk of Western Conference dominance, the East is still sporting more competitive teams. While the Warriors, Rockets, and Spurs continue to mow through the league, it could be argued that any of the East’s top 10 teams could be as good as anything else the West has to offer.
Before the season, people predicted horrendous seasons from both the Knicks and Pacers. I didn’t understand it at the time. Both teams feature young centers with range and huge defensive potential. As Kristaps Porzingis and Myles Turner continue to fill out their impressive frames in their third seasons in the league, more wins will follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9nFxyXkHQ
Porzingis has more individual talent, but Turner’s Pacers have a deeper roster. Victor Oladipo’s recent explosion has somewhat overshadowed just how solid the Pacers’ squad is. In any case, teams with that kind of superstar talent upfront aren’t going to be cellar dwellers.
It is the L’Eastern Conference no more. Unfortunately for Cavs fans, even the Nets are playing some inspired ball. As I write this, they would sit at 10th in the West.
Let’s not be afraid to reevaluate the things we are told to be true. Maybe J.R. Smith isn’t a knucklehead. Maybe the East isn’t so awful after all. And maybe, just maybe, LeBron James likes playing with a group of extremely talented players. In Cleveland.
Can anyone explain why ESPN has singlehandedly created and perpetuated Lavar Ball? He wouldn’t be a thing if it wasn’t for their ridiculous daily coverage.
Lavar is a publicity whore, and it’s the Lakers. If Ball had been selected by the Sixers, you would hardly hear about him.
Lavar said the right things to get attention. Unfortunately with the way society is going, people like him will continue to attract the masses which sells commercial times.
Anonymous aka Cols, I’ve made a donation in your name to the Human Fund, money for people.
I’ll take mine made out to Art Vandelay thanks
Let it go Cols. I already razzed them plenty, and used my name.
Pretty certain you were pretty skeptical on Rose and Green.
Oh sorry, thought you were encouraging him. But also why not. We don’t really have the wildcard without cols.
Only dopes play poker with wildcards
I mean unless y’all start putting vegas odds up versus cols homegrown odds I think we’re alright.
BTW, Mark Price got fired today from some college team. I would hire him in a minute as an extra coach for the Cavs.
Shooting coach. Or replace whatever the heck Damon Jones does.
One does not simply replace whatever the heck Damon Jones does
Replace nothing?
Didn’t Damon Jones coach the Cavs summer league team?
Hell yes. He knows a thing or two about running the pick & roll as well. Maybe Rose would actually listen.
Pippen, “LBJ is probably ahead of Jordan.” ‘The numbers don’t lie.’
Wowser!! Never thought I would hear that come out of Pippen’s mouth. Crazy.
He has said it before.
I heard that PIppen may have implied it. I didn’t hear he straight up said it and also quoted statistical career numbers. My bad.
He said it in terms of statistics only, and even then he was talking dimes and boards only.
Cols is that you?
What happened to Jon Barry? He used to do color commentary for espn and was fantastic since he actually watched games other than the ones he commented on. Wish Legler and Anthony were still doing color analysis at least at half time since they were probably the most knowledgeable color analysts. Occasionally they would do games too and were really great color commentators in game.
I hate that guy. I remember when he said Kyrie needs to get out of Cleveland so people can actually see how great he is.
Barry? Hmm. It was probably a complement phrased in the wrong way. The guy knew his bball as a color guy though, which is all I care about from tv analysts.
Yeah I didn’t get that impression.
Pre or post LBJ?
Coming back that is
The Road Trippin with Peanut Butter and Jelly this past week is pretty amazing. Highly recommend a listen. Also LeBron can talk more eloquently about race than the vast majority of Congress or most of CNN and Fox News. College education be damned.
It’s a great point that the average sports conversations between two people is certainly not one of constant agreement – but that’s what you get out of the broadcast booth.
I always thought Steve Kerr was an excellent color commentator – really love going back and watching the ’07 Cavs/Pistons series
I remember he called LeBron’s performance “Jordanesque” in that game in Detroit.
Thank you, thank you, and THANKYOU! I also like to listen to the opposing announcers and sigh in agony with each bungled and outdated player description…then watch in even more annoyance as 9 out of 10 sports writers perpetuate them. It creates such an annoying discourse and makes it nearly impossible for more casual fans to have an informed opinion. The Cedi and Babbitt comments stuck out immediately, and it was a shame to hear them from Fratello. I also agree wholeheartedly on the other point that is too often discussed, and so I’ll refrain from saying more about it.… Read more »
Dumb question… does this blog have any association with espn at all anymore. It started off under the true hoop umbrella right? Has it split off as it’s own thing? Don’t really pay close attention. Agree though, outside of Zack Lowe there’s next to nothing that I’m interested in from the main site.
Truehoop network is pretty much dead. We ended the affiliation with espn when we bought the site from John Krolik.
CtB sure doesn’t need any affiliation with ESPN at this point. Virtually all the writing and analysis here is better, although Dave McMenamin is certainly a terrific reporter and writer. Very much appreciate all the first rate content that CtB generates.
Thanks, man.
Indeed. Nate, EG, and Tom have done an excellent job. CtB is my NBA oasis in a desert full of football fans.
Thanks JMay
Ha! That’s awesome, didn’t realize that. I’ve wondered for a while but never looked in to it. Good on you guys.
Well there are still a few truehoop blogs floating around out there, but a lot have died.
Not since TrueHoop dissolved. We’re not associated any longer… hence no links to their site in the masthead anymore.
We have 5 games left before the X-Mas game with the Dubs. Have to believe IT plays in one of them.
Tonight: Lakers
Sat: Jazz
Sun: at Wiz
Tue: at Bucks
Thur 12/21: Bulls
Also, I would point to ESPN’s coverage of WWE/wrestling as a sign of how far rhey have fallen.
Doris Burke is excellent. Hill & Smith OK.
Yeah, aside from Lowe, the four letter is awful. I miss TrueHoop and the Daily Dime.
Daily Dime was quirky and fun.
Way back I was a prominent member of the FoxSports NBA Fan Sites. Man those were crazy LeBron v Kobe days. One day the site was just gone along with all our content.
Considering ESPN has a “Best sneakers of the week” column in which the idiot talks about who had/wore the “best” shoes, it’s correct to say they are no longer an actual sports site and nothing more than TMZ for sports fans.
They care more for clicks than analysis and will only get worst since the attention span of younger fans continues to decline.
On the other hand, CtB is chock-full of talented writers with a great mix of commentators. Anything Cavs related, this is where I come.
What are the chances the future ESPN streaming service they are working on gives you a “No Commentary” option in which you get all game and crowd sounds but don’t have to listen to bumbling idiots all evening? Zero? Less than zero?
That’s a great idea
Man, Ben, you took me back to that fun 97-98 team and I thank you for it… I had the same head scratching moment hearing those back to back comments from The Czar… hope he’s not slipping. I’ve honestly more often than not been watching games on mute as I type comments and search for new pics of La Flama Blanca… I don’t need to be told things that I can see with my own eyes… especially if those things are swaddled in untruths, platitudes and canned nonsense… the only thing I occasionally miss is the roar of the crowd… Read more »
If you guys get a chance to watch “players only” on Tuesday nights on NBA TV i highly recommend it. I want to say its Dennis Scott, Steve Smith and someone else calling the game. They’re really good at reacting to exactly what’s happening on the court and getting into the details rather than playing our tires story lines.
I also caught a bit of the Pelicans announcers last night versus Milwaukee. Strong duo.
thank you again for your work Jason—and I agree if you want accurate info / commentary —-just ‘tune in ” here at ctb—forget espn etc.—-I have !!
Early Nets update. Wins:
6 = Hawks
7 = Bulls
8 = Grizz, Mavs
9 = Suns, Kings
10 = Hornets, Lakers
11 = Magic, Nets, Clippers
Tonight:
Pistons at Hawks (sure wish ATL weren’t missing their top 3 Cs).
NY at Nets
Lakers at Cavs
Kings at Minny
Dallas at GSW (Curry & Green out)
Nets next 10: NY, at Tor, Ind, Sac, Wash, at Ind, at SA, at NO, at Mia, at Bos.
How about losing 9 of 10 to close the year at a much better looking 12-24. Go Zinger!
You really are a hardcore scoreboard watcher Jason!
I’ve seen Mike Fratello around town, on the east side. He’s really short!
I haven’t heard anything about LeBron to the Rockets, but I don’t really watch or click on ESPN very often. In fact, I’m letting my insider subscription expire in a few months.
I really enjoyed Oscar Robertson’s analysis last season, when he sat down with Fred and AC during one of the quarters.
“Think of the children!” Great article. Keep up the fantastic writing.
Basically this is an extension of the “Hot Take” culture. The people who want measured opinions, detailed thoughts, and nuance are drowned out by the clickbait of “JR Smith is a Knucklehead”. Moral of the story: don’t listen to announcers, do read Cavs:TheBlog =) I agree its sad that people are satisfied with skin-deep analysis, but to each his own I guess. I just wish there was a channel I could turn on that had the deep basketball commentary instead of hearing JVG chirp about what he had for breakfast.
Great article and great insight.
Good points.
Tangentially related: Scotty Pippin was a guest on ESPN radio when I was driving to work this morning. Every time I hear him, I think that he is the most knowledgeable and articulate ex player ever. His main point was about how awesome LeBron is, and how he continues to get better. Unfortunately, the hosts failed to ask about the comparison with you know who.
Pippin also predicted that the Kyrie led Celts would continue to win the EC regular season, and the LeBron led Cavs would continue to trounce the Celts in the playoffs every year.
Always a pleasure, Ben. Great read.
Richard I agree with doris / allie c—would be great—also I am a huge chones fan—has a great insight of the game / and knows how to articulate it to the fan———always wondered why fratello never got another coaching chance —his decision or the g.m’s
The Zen of Ben. Thanks again for your comments. I’ve grown tired of Fred’s “Good Guys” and AC’s standard 3 or 4 memes. More Doris Burke. I’d love to have Doris and Allie C work the TV broadcast but we can add John Michael and Jim Chones. When Chonesie says “I like what I’m seeing out of” I pay attention. Provided the Cavs remain as a 2-4 game winner against the W’s, I’ll have hope of another Le Season in Le Cleveland. Agreed on the same old tired scouting reports on our players. The stories of the season for the… Read more »
Excellent article. And ” As a rule, I always listen to the home announcers when I’m watching League Pass. It helps give me an idea of how opposing announcing teams view the Cavaliers’ roster.” – nice to see someone else does this too. Though I find myself grinding my teeth at some the bias, it’s worth it.
ditto with mikeo—-articulated / summed it up very well !!!!
I don’t have anything to add, just wanted to say good article, and I enjoyed reading it. (As usual)