Recap: Golden State 99, Cleveland 92 (or, whistles, who needs em?)
2017-12-26Cleveland lost a tough one in California on Christmas afternoon. In a relatively low scoring game that saw a putrid shooting second quarter from the Cavs. The Cavs tied the game late when LeBron James hit a fallaway runner from the left side of the lane to tie the game at with two minutes remaining. A Klay Thompson three put the Warriors up 95-92, and the Cavs resorted to their standby offense this game, a LeBron James isolation. On two straight possessions, it appeared that Kevin Durant fouled James blatantly on drives, but no whistle resulted. The first “foul resulted in a turnover, and the second was ruled out of bounds off James with 24 seconds left, effectively ending things.
Elijah Kim and I teamed up for this recap, with Eli taking the the odd quarters, and me taking the evens.
First Quarter:
The Cavs/Warriors Christmas classic got off to entertaining start. With a lot of physical play the Warriors lost a bit of composure with Durant and Draymond drawing technical fouls. The second tech should’ve gone to Durant, but oddly, Dray got whistled, when he “asked the referees how Calderon could yell at them and not get a technical,” according to Connor Letourneau of SFGate.com.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH8g7d00ETA
Cleveland leaned on the three point shot with four of their starters knocking down the long ball and played pesky enough defense to force the Warriors to earn their points. Durant continued his MVP bid as he and Thompson scored nine points a piece.
LeBron played the whole first quarter with Durant, as the Cavs held on to a 28-24 lead to end the first quarter.
Second Quarter:
The second was a slogfest, as Cleveland shot 3-24 from the field and scored zero baskets inside the arc while notching just 16 points. Golden state had a lid on the bucket, and the Cavs gator armed many shots around the rim. The Warriors got away with a lot of contact though, including a play where LeBron got smacked on the head with no call. Jeff Green missed three bunnies, as did Tristan Thompson (while hounded by Warrior defense). LeBron was surprisingly passive with only one point one 0-3 shooting to go along with just one turnover (that led to a Casspi runout) in six minutes.
Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, and David West patrolled the paint for Warriors, and the only offense for the Cavs seem to come from Dwyane Wade drawing fouls on pump fakes. J.R. Smith pitched an 0-fer in the quarter, with a single foul as his only contribution in five minutes. It was just one of those quarters where the Cavs missed shots they might normally make and the Warrior Length might have stymied a layup or two that would’ve been good against lesser teams. Of course, the prevailing theory is that Tristan Thompson might’ve jammed things up for the Cavs’ offense. But he wasn’t the one making everyone miss layups (other than his own). Despite all this, the Cavs defended well, and held the Warriors to 43% shooting. The Warriors didn’t seem to have much offense when it wasn’t running through Kevin Durant, and despite Klay Thompson getting loose a couple times, the Cavs dodged the bullets. Cleveland went to halftime down 44-46.
Third Quarter:
The Cavs looked to get Kevin Love more involved with mixed success. Although Love recorded plenty of rebounds and got a decent amount of looks (even scoring the first 5 points of the quarter), Love struggled to score in close with Draymond and Durant dominating the defensive paint.
From the outside however, Love kept scoring just enough to keep the Cavs close knocking down three long balls in the quarter. The Cavs offense continued to languish in the third quarter but managed to stay within striking defense with sporadic scoring and questionable shots by the Warriors. Cleveland trapped Durant a lot and forced other people to beat them. Patrick McCaw had seven in the quarter and Durant had six, all from the free throw line.
After the bench mob came in, things didn’t get prettier as Iguodala made clutch plays to give the Warriors their biggest lead in the game (six).
Love hustled, chasing down seven rebounds (four offensive) in the period, and scored just enough down the stretch to keep the Cavs in striking distance, 71-67 Warriors entering the fourth. James was oddly passive again, and had just three points in the period.
Fourth Quarter:
The fourth saw some of the worst play all season from LeBron James as his three turnovers (not caused by uncalled Durant fouls), and 3-8 shooting weren’t as bad as his defense, where he routinely just lost his defensive assignment, ball-watching. Draymond Green used is inattentiveness to walk into a couple of threes and Jordan Bell cut back door for an easy alley oop – all on LeBron.
Dwyane Wade provided some spark early, hitting a couple tough jumpers and then an unexpected three. But it proved to be pyrite as the Cavs forced too many quick shots to get a rhythm going offensively. LeBron picked up his offense, driving to the rim late, but he forced some threes, where he went just 1-4. On a key late heave, Wade gathered a LeAirball and contorted to put it back right before the shot clock expired to cut the Warriors’ to just 92-90 with 3:17 to go.
The Cavs’ inability to get key defensive rebounds kept possession after possession alive for the Dubs. The key example of this came with the score tied at 92, and the Warriors running an out of bounds play to get Durant a three on the left wing. Again, LeBron missed his box-out, and Jordan Bell picked up the offensive rebound, kicked to Klay, and it was money in the bank. It’s cued up below.
https://youtu.be/mMny0ezLZzQ?t=82
As for the two plays that doomed any chance the Cavs had at a comeback, I’ll let you be the judge.
To be fair, even if LeBron had made free throws, it still would’ve been a tall order for the Cavs to get another stop and another bucket. The Cavs weren’t executing their three point plays well, and probably need to get some new ones. Hard to do that when, as we all know, the Cavs don’t practice.
Notables:
Kevin Love finished with a game high 31 on 25 shots to go with 18 rebounds. Not the world’s greatest efficiency, but he gave Cleveland a boost when he was in. LeBron James (20-6-6 with seven turnovers) also struggled (7-18 from the floor), but while Love was a perfect 6-6 from charity, LeBron was 4-7. Like I said, he just seemed off. Jae Crowder had a seemingly nice game with 15 and six boards, including 3-5 from downtown. He had a few defensive lapses, but was mostly good late. Dwyane added 13 but had a previously reported -9 in plus minus.
Aftermath
Bitter tastes in our mouth Eli and I traded a couple emails on the game.
Nate Smith:
Any thoughts, Eli? Bron got outplayed by KD, but it was because KD is inherently better. James just had a really bad game where a lot of the early season problems reared their head: not caring on D, bad body language and not getting back after uncalled fouls, turnovers, and not rebounding or boxing out. I was baffled why Kevin Love wasn’t in the game in key defensive crunch time lineups because the Cavs absolutely could not get a defensive rebound.
In addition, the stopgap veteran solutions that had been working from the Cavs’ reserves didn’t tonight. Jose Calderon is just too overmatched against good teams and Dwyane Wade cannot rely on jump-shooting miracles to beat good teams.
And yes, The officiating on the last two possessions was ridiculous. Refs almost never call a foul in a game tying or game winning situations late unless they’re egregious. But since even if LeBron would’ve made both free throws on those fouls in the last two minutes, the Cavs still would’ve been down by one. It was game mismanagement by the refs to basically sit there and swallow the whistles on two blatant fouls by Kevin Durant. I don’t know what I’m watching when that happens. It is beyond dumb that KD probably should’ve been ejected in the first quarter for mouthing off to the ref and then trying to start crap with Calderon. And then the fact that Draymond took his tech for him? Why even have refs?
How would this game have looked with Steph and IT? I don’t know. Cavs aren’t beating anyone with LeBron playing like this and not running a coherent offense. Maybe IT helps with the offense, but the Cavs will live and die by how LeBron plays more than if Thomas can match Steph’s scoring and ability to run an offense. And we all know about Isaiah’s defensive deficiencies.
As for Lue, the commentariat was up in arms over playing TT over Frye, in the debacle that led to Cleveland’s 3-24 second quarter. I don’t know how much TT had to do with Jeff Green blowing layups.
Elijah Kim:
LeBron played a really poor game for his standards and it doesn’t mean the torch is officially KD’s.
Lue’s lineups were puzzling today for sure. He had a super quick leash on Osman and Calderón in the second half but kept on giving and giving for guys like TT and JR (-5, 0-5).
Calderón is too outmatched to play nearly 20 minutes in such a game. The bench unit, which was much improved this season coming into the game, still was no match for the bench lineups with Livingston and Iguodala.
There was a weird vibe to the first quarter when all the Warriors players wanted to try and verbally assault the Cavs players. Like Mark Jackson and Van Gundy said, the NBA has double standards like things in life and it’s true, any other player and KD’s actions would have warranted ejection.
How does this matchup change with Steph and IT? Honestly, I don’t think it does much except more scoring. It just means fewer missed shots on both sides.
Lue probably should have given Frye some time, especially when they couldn’t score at all. Love not playing more was odd. He single handedly kept the Cavs in the game with his timely three pointers, including 3 in the third quarter.
The Cavs need more quality over quantity. It’s great when the team is healthy that there are about six wings on this team that are NBA caliber but only about three of them are good enough to play right now. Also, it didn’t help that the bench had an untimely terrible game. Green (-6), Korver (-5), all Wade (-9) all disappointed to some degree.
Nate Smith
Yeah, the Cavs just seemed tight and not themselves. This was probably a good calibration game for getting up for playing real competition. Cleveland has been feasting on weaker teams for the better part of a month, and stuff that’s gonna fly versus Chicago ain’t gonna work against teams like the Dubs.
Tristan Thompson is such a conundrum. As was brought up on the live thread, the Cavs have around $80 million in payroll tied up in TT, Shumpert, and J.R. Smith over this year and next. That’s roster killing when Thompson is so limited, J.R. is so consistent, and Shumpert is just plain bad. Moving one of those contracts would be hard. Moving three would be impossible. But you never say never.
Isaiah Thomas will definitely help. He’ll do things offensively that Calderon just can’t at his age, and Dwyane Wade will stop trying to do everything when he’s on the floor. Wade’s much better when he focuses on defense, transition, and making open shotsike he did against the Bulls, than when he’s trying to be alpha. I’d be lying to you if I thought the Cavs were better than the Dubs when Steph and Thomas return. The Warriors still have the edge. Especially when they’re playing eight on five. Let’s hope LeBron screws his head on right for the next one.
You can talk all you want about foul calls or non foul calls, TT lack of offense, Brons poor play, etc. The game can be summed up into one simple stat. Blocked shots.
Warriors 8
Cavaliers 0
Really, 0 blocked shots??? And how many other shots did the Warriors alter to cause our 31 percent shooting? They are too long and athletic for the Cavs. IT isn’t going to help in this department. DJ would help some, but I don’t think it would be enough. The Warriors have crushed the Clips for over 3 years.
Three to four of those blocks were blatant fouls or after blatant fouls, so the box score doesn’t mean much. They are basically the only team allowed to hand check as aggressively as teams were allowed in the late 90s and early 2000s which makes way easier for help to slide over into the paint.
Agree with John B on this one.
As I said, you can complain about fouls all you want, but the Warriors are averaging 8 blocks per game. They totally took the paint away from us.
James & Wade were too lazy on D a couple times. We need to blockout better. The thing James needs to get through his head, as do the other Cavs, is that we need to play like 2015 Finals Cavs to beat GSW with Durant. Focused. Harassing D. Box out FTs. Box out all the time. Value the ball. We have to play like the less talented team, because we are. I don’t think we make any moves until we see what things look like with IT back. Love acknowledged he might be better off at C after the GSW… Read more »
“The thing James needs to get through his head”?
News flash: this is a regular season game — it means nothing.
You actually don’t want to show GSW everything you have so they can be prepared for it in the playoffs.
Appears NBA admitted officials made 4 errors in missed calls in a minute span to end the game….3 on Durant, and 1 on Lebron. If Silver isn’t going to fix officiating, how is he any better or competent than Goodell hahaha. Game on Jan 3 verses Celtics will be another barometer as well. I know we already beat them but think this game is in Boston and thus will be tougher. still think Cavs need to make some moves. have feeling TT is going to be gone along with Shump and Zizic in some type of trade. Could be DeAndre… Read more »
For draft prospects:
Superior: Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, Porter
Excellent: Bamba, Young, Jackson, Bridges, Sexton.
Cs. PF/Cs. Combo F. PGs. Wings.
Good night for the pick. Spurs over Nets. Mavs over Raptors. Bulls over Bucks. Suns edge Grizz on a buzzer beater alley-oop. Magic lose their 9th in a row in Miami. Clippers up big on Kings in the 3rd. Wins, assuming the Clippers hold on: 8 = Hawks 10 = Mavs, Grizz 11 = Magic, Bulls, Kings, Lakers 12 = Hornets, Nets 13 = Suns 14 = Clippers Tomorrow: Nets (b2b) at Pels Celtics at Hornets Mavs at Pacers (both b2b) Wiz at Hawks Knicks at Bulls (b2b) Cavs at Kings Grizz (b2b) at Lakers Cavs could end the night… Read more »
mavs up on raptors—-8 minutes left—-mavs teased us last week –only to let us down
Booker expected back for the Suns tonight. Ditto Fournier for the Magic (Vucevic, Ross, & Gordon still out).
We have a cakewalk to the finals, so all eyes should be on the Warriors. It was the first time this year that a game required complete concentration, both on offense and defense. LeBron has been spectacular offensively this year, but doesn’t have the same defensive skills (because of his declining quickness – remember when he guarded Derrick Rose in the playoffs) he once had and can’t afford the defensive lapses. He will get there when it matters. As for the calls, yes he was fouled on that last drive, but he also pushes off a lot with his off… Read more »
I will say Lue is a weak link in my mind. He is not terrible, but is not an upper echelon coach. He does not hold stars accountable (besides Love), and plays favorites too often.
Just wait until Shump is healthy and Korver sits for him.
Unfortunately you’re correct Jason :(
Larry drew is better imho
You think LeBron gets fair calls from the refs?
Are you stoned?
In the land of the Nets pick tonight:
Nets at Spurs
Raptors at Mavs
Orlando at Miami
Bulls at Bucks
Grizz at Suns
Kings at Clippers
A lot of comments on Tristan’s poor play, but I think JR is the biggest concern. Guy is in his own head, passing up good looks. And his defense is so much worse than the last 2 years
Not sure what the fix is tho. Cavs really need JR to be solid
He’s not 100%. He’ll get there
I too would be in favor of T.T. for NOEL —-BUT THE BIRD RIGHT S WOULD HAVE TO BE WAIVED
would you trade straight up T.T. FOR GREG MONROE ?
I believe his deal is expiring, then sure, as a salary dump. He wouldn’t make any sense as a player on the Cavs. We would need to sweeten the pot though, which would probably cost us more than we would like to part with.
Yeah, it would just be a salary dump. Monroe is an offensive no defense big. I don’t see what the Cavs make of that. TT is literally more valuable to them, it’s just not a good contract.
Draymond also got a few good looks from deep with LeBron on him. This was a completely winnable game.
Knowing the Cavs, I fully expect a trade in the next 30 days… probably for a piece similar to the caliber of Korver (George Hill/Jonathan Simmons)….
The Cavs have a glut of wings but against the Warriors, besides LeBron who can you trust consistently out of Korver Crowder JR Shumpert Green? Right now, Lue is saying he still trusts JR and Korver more than anyone else.
You trust Korver, JR, Wade, and LeBron on the wing. Crowder was very good vs GSW and is close to a trust. As is Green, who also is close to trustworthy.
Any of these guys an option?
https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2017/12/26/16816722/trade-deadline-tyreke-evans-dario-saric-lou-williams-nerlens-noel
I like em all on varying degrees. Noel for TT could be a real thing. Nerlens would have to waive his bird rights.
that is great nate —LMAO!!
AGREE—-all depends on who they are trading for as far as who you offer —–hate to be so negative on T.T. –but again he has NOT improved / shows he doesn’t work hard to become a more skilled / useful player —todays game dictates you have to do more than just rebound ———on the positive—everytime I watch the timberwolves / wiggins —I just smile —-man did we WIN that trade getting klove !!!!
yes I would wait until the mlk game —but if I am Kolby I am watching/ listening very carefully to trade offers —-T.T. / SHUMP / OUR DRAFT PICK / ANTE
Question is who could you get with those trading assets?
Shump and TT’s value are at all time low. Nets’pick looks like >3rd and Zz is unproven because Lue won’t play him.
You try to trade with a team that wants to lose this year, then TT & Shump are actually a plus. Might have to throw in our pick to sweeten it. Sacramento (Hill), Orlando (Simmons), Memphis (Evans), Clippers (Williams) are all options.
I like Williams the best, we need more shooting.
Live look at Koby Altman listening for trade offers for TT/Shump/Ante…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9c_KttvQPU
Hahahahahaha awesome.
Thanks Nate, I needed that.
jrl—agree —have said this numerous times T.T. is still the same player he was since his rookie season as far as offense is concerned—–by now he should have developed at least 3 “GO TO POST MOVES “—-short / elbow jump shot / and been able to put the ball on the floor —–there have been many players similar to him who after so many seasons in the league HAVE WORKED AT THEIR CRAFT and developed their skills —-sorry T.T. YOU DON’T GET A PASS FROM ME ——has his trade value gone down due to this—I believe it has ——g.m.’s are… Read more »
Good recap…while the officiating is ridiculous…the Cavs beat themselves missing layups and not paying attention on defense. It was disappointing to see the bench barely contribute and pathetic to see JR do next to nothing.
While its not intended to be prisoner of the moment, just wonder if any moves are needed after this game. Or if we need to play them again in January with most everyone healthy to get better gauge. It just felt like a repeat of the Warriors playing with more energy and Cavs just unsure how to adapt and not stepping up (sans Kevin Love).
I’d wait till next game to make make drastic changes. We are waiting on IT and we could had won the game last night by having performed very minor things correctly.
It sucks but we were not blown out like the MLK game.
The Warriors are arguably the best passing team in the league and I never understood why the Cavs tried to gamble on defense too much searching for steals that never came in the 3rd quarter and that just contributed to continuos scoring chances for the Warriors. To me the only way to defend the Warriors is to play them straight up and just live with KD and Curry getting theirs and keeping others in check. In other words do to them what they do to LeBron and the Cavs. The Warriors stay home with the Cavs shooters and make LBJ… Read more »
Simple answer, Lue.
https://twitter.com/amicohoops/status/945463803248037889
The guy has become totally useless and specially against the Cavs most important rival right now.
He has. Call it the “Kardashian Kurse” or whatever but it’s obvious he has only regressed since the 2013 season when he was averaging 12/9.
I understand LeBron/Kyrie/Love took the scoring load off ya, but to be unplayable due to your lack of offense is ridiculous. Shows me he hasn’t been working on his craft.
In all seriousness the Cavs should consider any option at this point to just get rid of him and create the cap space for a valuable piece. 18 mil on that guy is just ridiculous.
Even if we trade TT for literally nothing, we are still over the cap.
Cap room should be eliminated from your vocabulary. The only way we have any is if LeBron leaves next year.
Christmas /grandkids/ etc prevented me from watching much of the game—from what I saw (mentioned ( cedi played nervous — too big of stage at this moment )—should get better by next game /playoffs )—-channing should have been given minutes—-t.t. gave us almost nothing —-swish needs to return to being ‘swish ” look / don’t hesitate on his shot —no big deal ——–april / may / june is a long way off——these 2 teams will change by then
Not gonna overreact to one loss. I’m more bummed about the fouls from a standpoint that they cloud the narrative as to why the Cavs lost: Bad defense, turnovers, bad shot selection, inability to rebound, and (ahem) poor coaching. The Cavs looked like the less well prepared team and didn’t adjust. If not for the officiating BS, the Cavs could learn from this.
if Cavs shot 40% they win by at least 10 points or more…just crazy how the little things can spiral that much.
Your are right but at the same time the defensive strategy that the Cavs applied in the 3rd quarter by having Calderón and Lebron from time to time gamble on defense totally burned the Cavs and that was Lue’s fault.
LeBron was awful defensively. For me, Durant is the better player at the moment.
Ahhh what???
sorry about him, all the Jason’s cant get it right all the time :)
lbj >> kd not even close
That was just baffling ;)
LeBron’s gambling on defense against arguably the best passing team in the league got him really bad results but LeBron is still the best overall player (total package). You can give KD the “best scorer title” if you want too. My honest opinion.
Wasn’t gambling as much as just not paying attention. Without Steph, trapping Durant can work. Cavs held the Warriors to a low enough score to win, the just didn’t score enough points.
Nate, I’m not talking about the traps on KD, actually that was ok to do. it was LeBron’s miscues by totally missing Draymond Green on his simple cuts to the rim. He did that like that 2 – 3 times. You add to that the points the Warriors got scoring off of his turnovers and it was a lot to overcome for the Cavs. And you add to that the horrible shooting from the Cavs.
The reason the second unit was disappointing can be summed up in two letters, TT. His only offensive threat is rolling to the rim, and can only finish on a lob, otherwise he is a total liability. Green and Wade had no space to drive and Korver struggled being the sole outside threat, GS switched every pick and packed the lane. Frye changes the entire dynamic. Come on Coach,
That was a foul. That’s all.
Between LeBron’s poor game, Lue’s decision to keep TT and JR in and not play Frye nor give more minutes to Love, plus the homerism by the refs, I’m surprised we kept up with them.
That second quarter was horrendous and Lue made no changes to his game plan. Hopefully this opens up some eyes as to TT’s uselessness against the Dubs. He’s just a complete offensive liability and you’re just playing 4-5.
Waiting anxiously for IT.
Totally agree with you. TT is so useless right now and that’s really bad for the Cavs. His trade value keeps decreasing each game.
Also those late no calls annoyed no one more than me, but the Cavs benefited from some pretty terrible calls earlier in the game. They all count.
It’s stupid they get Bell for the same price the Cavs paid for Felder. Imagine if the Cavs had Bell (playable right now) in place of Zizic…
Thank you. I was just rewatching game, saw some atrocious calls against Dubs. Officiating was bad for both teams.
Cavs are going to need to be steadier and just plain better on offense to play with the Warriors. They can play a bit lazy against poor defensive teams and get away with it, not gonna get it done against this team.
Nate is dead on about some of the egregious back doors Lebron allowed.
That second quarter was horrible. One could argue the Cavs didn’t deserve to score at all that quarter. Lots of bad, highly contested
shots.
The good: Love and Crawder played really well and JG’s defense on KD was solid. The bad: As awesome as Lebron has been this season his 7 turnovers and bad defense cost the Cavs a lot. I believe the Warriors got like 15 or 16 off of Lebron’s miscues. Overall: The Cavs showed that they can compete against the Warriors but again to beat the Warriors they need to play an almost perfect game with not many turnovers and not gambling too much on defense. The Cavs got caught of guard in the 3rd quarter many times trying to gamble… Read more »
Feel like Cavs have done a decent job this year of moving the ball. What is it about the Warriors that forces them into so much iso-ball?
They Warriors are a great defensive team. They always make Lebron a scorer and stay home with the Cavs shooters.
They rarely double anyone and don’t lose their men off ball. Thus, you need to beat your man off the dribble, and draw a defender, to create open men.
LeBron’s handle is deteriorating. And the Dubs are long & block a lot of shots at the rim. And play the passing lanes well on kickouts. They will live with you trying to finish contested two’s at the rim rather than give up open 3s.
Great comment Jason. This is where the Cavs will miss Kyrie. He’s one of the best, if not the best 1 on 1 player in the league, and can cause issues against the Dubs.
Exactly, as much as I dislike the Warriors we have to give credit to them on that aspect.