The Wood Shop: The Corner-to-Corner, Coast-to-Coast, Cool Cav Club
2018-02-13There’s a new club in Cleveland. It started right after the Cavs demolished Boston. I’m not in it. You aren’t in it. LeBron James isn’t even in it. It’s called The Corner-to-Corner, Coast-to-Coast, Cool Cav Club. 7C for short. It has just one member, and his name is Cedi Osman. He hails from Turkey; and in the past three games he has averaged 12.3 points while shooting 59.1% from the floor and 50% from 3. He has also grabbed five boards, 1.7 steals, and two assists in 29.8 minutes a night during this hot run. When Tyronn Lue gave him an opportunity, he seized it. And, that’s why he gets to be in this club, this gang of one.
There are some other stipulations to get in 7C, but he meets them all. You have to run the floor corner-to-corner, you must defend corner shooters and take corner shots. You have to go coast-to-coast, grab the rebound and run! You have be concise in your movements. There’s no superfluous dribbling if you’re in this cool crowd. You gotta hustle. You have to be a friend to LeBron. And, you gotta have real poofy hair. Your hair must be a weapon as if you were transported to the 70s and got a perm. It has to be able to make all the ladies swoon. It also helps if your name begins with a “C.” Alliteration is always a plus when you’re in any club.
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It’s easy to write Cedi off because he didn’t get minutes all season and is suddenly popping off, but he has great habits already and plays a very effective brand of basketball.
Defensively, Cedi was called on to cover Kyrie Irving for a few stretches Sunday afternoon. Kyrie scored on him, but he’s going to do that to even the best defender in the NBA. Osman used his foot speed and put up a reasonable amount of resistance to Irving.
In the play above, Irving takes a screen near the start of the 3-point arc and then gets the ball in a dribble hand off from Aron Baynes. Baynes is supposed to rub Cedi off to free Irving for a drive. He can’t though, because Cedi does a wonderful job of keeping himself, mainly his hips, between Irving and the screens. When Irving finally rounds the corner to the lane, Cedi resets his stance and squares his hips to him. He follows Kyrie and eventually fouls him by reaching in. However, the thought process is there. He doesn’t let his hips get turned. He uses his lateral movement to keep Irving from getting to the hoop. He knows how to defend.
He still makes mistakes. He forgot to step up on Irving at one point in the game and Kyrie just dropped a 3 in his face. That’s forgivable though, because Cedi is constantly hustling, and it results in great things. In the clip below, Malcolm Delaney of the Hawks lobs a wild pass that goes over the head of LeBron’s man. LeBron is boxing out in anticipation, so he’s in the wrong spot to run to the ball. Cedi isn’t though. He sprints from the foul line to the corner and jumps out of bounds saving the ball to spark a fast break. He whips the ball in and Jeff Green is able to take off for a filthy dunk.
Those types of plays make Cedi loved by his teammates. He creates posters. And, someday he will be on posters. He has great timing for such a young player. Look what he does when Kyrie attempts a cross court pass to Marcus Morris.
Cedi is sitting back on Morris and playing defense. He’s watching him and looking around to see if he needs to help in the post. He notices Tristan Thompson is behind him to help if needed, which is why he decides to jump the passing lane to intercept the ball. All of the Celtics’ momentum is leaning towards their hoop, so Cedi is able to sprint the length of the floor and… Well, he tries to dunk, but he gets a little excited and misses. Nonetheless, LeBron runs up to him immediately and daps him up. “Real recognizes real,” as people say. LeBron has done what Cedi did there hundreds of times. He understands the nerves that happen the first time you get a break away as a young kid and appreciates the effort.
Cedi even has the timing down for swiping on a big man from the strong side. Not many kids can do that!
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For good measure, let’s look at one more Cedi defensive play. This one is going to let us start a chat about his offense. In this video, he makes a decent block on Sean Kilpatrick by staying vertical and deflecting the ball to Kyle Korver.
What’s impressive though is that Cedi runs the length of the floor and finishes the play. He sprints past two other Cavaliers. People, he’s quick. He is the farthest back Cleveland defender, but he wishes himself into the fast break. He’s a guy that runs coast-to-coast. After rebounds, he immediately looks up court and goes.
It results in great things. When he runs with the ball the length of the floor, it’s hard to stop him. He makes sure he’s constantly moving north to south. NBA guys don’t want to take a charge or have to stop that. It tricks them into back pedaling and results in fouls.
Cedi even uses a nice spin move to further penetrate on that grab and go to draw the foul. He isn’t just a hustle guy. He uses concise movement and makes quick decisions to be effective in half-court ball. He’s shown he has a decent handle. Look at this behind the back dribble that results in him getting fouled…
This move is half quick reaction after catching the ball and half nasty crossover. He gets Jayson Tatum leaning, and immediately whips to the other side to free himself. There’s no extra dribbling in that move at all. His quick decision making lets him take advantage of the ball’s movement.
Look at this play:
The Piston defenders are all in help positions here. Cedi catches the ball and immediately drives. He doesn’t allow them to recover one bit. And, that causes him to make Detroit send another defender at him. He then dishes the ball to Jeff Green for an easy 3.
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Cedi is a fan of the easy 3 too. He’s not hesitating to shoot when he’s open, which isn’t always the case for an NBA rookie.
That clip also shows more of Cedi’s ability to just get down the floor. If Cedi doesn’t have the ball he’s running all the way to the other baseline to fill the lane or to space to the corners.
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The young Turk even has some finesse passing skills. He should be able to enter the ball to Kevin Love in the post with no issues whatsoever. He watches James cut here and has no problem throwing the ball over three different Atlanta players to get the easy bucket.
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A lot of what Cedi brings to the table looks like what Matthew Dellavedova did when he broke out for the Cavs. He hustles. He makes the right decision. He gets out of the way when he needs to, but Cedi is much more talented than Delly. He actually has the tools to possibly be a twenty a night guy who gets five boards and five assists. Osman’s biggest strength is making the game easy for himself: he only does what he can and nothing extra.
That shouldn’t be surprising considering he’s been a pro since he was 12. He’s only going to get better too. He’s 22, is 6’8” and 216 pounds. He currently struggles with his free throw shooting. That’s all fixable. He can put on weight and change his free throw stroke. There’s no need to worry.
It makes me mad at Tyronn Lue for not playing him, and it makes me mad at myself for not being more adamant about him getting minutes early on this year. Hopefully, he will keep his starting spot as the season moves forward. LeBron likes the kid, and didn’t bark at him once on Sunday. He did bark at J.R. Smith quite a few times though, and it seems that the King is finally sick of waiting for talented guys to show. He should be, considering what happened with Isaiah Thomas, and Jae Crowder. Cedi is the hustler the starters need. He makes everyone want to play harder.
Lastly, I have to give a shout out to Ben Werth who really should be telling us all, “I told you so.” In the summer of 2015 before the draft, Ben touted Cedi. The Cavs took him and Ben’s comments about him make me think he might have special wizard powers or something.
Turkish wing, Cedi Osman has been mostly projected as a mid to late second round pick. Though his 2014-2015 counting numbers were rather pedestrian with powerhouse, Anadolu Efes Istanbul in the Turkish league, the 6’8″ 20 year old displayed his frenetic energy on a nightly basis. Osman is most easily described as a pleasant mix between Mathew Dellavedova and Chandler Parsons. Like Parsons, Osman is a terror in transition. He times his steps very well at full speed while maintaining good balance for a variety of finishes. His solid rebounding and handle let him start or end the break with equal skill. Like Delly, he plays with top energy at all times showing a good understanding of weakside positional help off ball, and a good chest up technique on ball. On the flip side, his jumper is as streaky as his two NBA counterparts and he gets caught in between on dribble drives. Still, he is first round talent that needs strength and seasoning. It will likely be at least one or two seasons before Osman even considers making the trip to America. That is the only reason why the Cavs would have a realistic shot at snagging him so late. If he is anywhere near their pick, the Cavs should grab him.
An annoying talking point that I keep hearing from national guys (just heard it on a podcast today, too) is ‘the Cavs may have improved with these trades, but their ceiling is lower’, because, they say, their ceiling would be higher if IT got right.
Are you freaking kidding me? Stop saying dumb things. Their ‘ceiling’ was the first round with IT and Crowder. Even if IT improved. He sucks, and he absolutely cannot play well with Lebron. Just stop with this nonsense.
The ceiling is the roof.
The ceiling is always higher when you’re 5’2″
Comment of the year… LOL
yeah even the stats guys are saying things like “I’m not sure who their true second star is…..it’s not really Kevin Love…”
The curse of the “big 3” narrative
Congrats guys, great to see you guys are having fun again. This trade has made Lue a better coach too, not sure if he would have ever found a role for Cedi without the trade and unavailability of players and JR Smith found groove. 2 more months of work for Lue’s Cavs to figure it out before playoffs, integrating new players. They are on a roll .
so excited for this game tonight!
The top bigs in the draft:
Ayton: 7’1″, 250, 19 (7/23/98), 7’5″ wspan
Bamba: 7’0″, 255, 19 (5/12/98), 7’9″ wspan
Jackson: 6’11”, 242, 18 (9/15\99) 7’4″ wspan
Player: PTS/REB/BLK; FG%/3PT%FT%
Ayton: 19.5/10.7/1.8; 60.4/34.5/73.8
Bamba: 13.7/10.8/4.0; 50.4/28.3/68.0
Jackson: 11.0/6.1/3.3; 51.8/42.3/79.1
MPG: Ayton 32.3 Bamba 31.2, Jackson 22.5
Bamba is the quickest. All are quick.
Bagley
Yeah, Bagley is up there with Ayton.
I should have said centers/5s. Or rim protectors. I consider Bagley more of a 4 because of his lack of D. Though with his size he could be a 5.
OKC looks to be a 2 point favorite for tonight’s game, which means its anyone’s game.
Seems low to me…I think without Love, this one will be tough. We’ll see. I doubt Cave give up close to 148, though!
All depends on whether or not Russ plays or is 100%…
Vegas had no idea
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/963518232425631747
Great piece, David. Thanks for writing – now I feel like you take requests tho…
Wood Shop piece on Horns Rub and how the Cavs should do it with LeBron and Nance Jr?
FREEBIRD!
I was really impressed watching that sequence live where Cedi Osman was staying in front of Kyrie Irving’s dribbling escapades. Also impressed with George Hill keeping himself between Jason Tatum and the basket.
Sprinkle in Larry Nance Jr. and YOLO Earl Smith III blocking JUMPSHOTS and the Cavs suddenly have a the ability to get a couple stops in a row methinks.
I sure hope the Lakers play better. If their pick lands between 2 – 5 it goes to Boston. The last thing I want to see is Used Care Salesman Danny Ainge benefiting more from scamming the league.
No worries, they have IT now…top five finisher in the MVP race…
Lakers will easily finish in the 8-14 range. Once Ball gets back & IT plays less they will get better. Had won 7/10 before IT showed up.
Clarkson > IT.
This year’s pick does. If it this it happens to fall between 2 and 5 this year, then the celtics get either the philly or kings 1st pick next year (whichever is higher) unless it is number one at which point they get the lower of the two. Still a huge asset unless the kings get the number one pick next year, at which point unless philly regresses it will only be ok.
I’m not sure what you’re saying. According to SI: Note: Philadelphia owns the Lakers’ first-round pick unless it falls between Nos. 2–5, in which case it conveys to Boston.
Right. If it fall outside of 2-5 the celtics still get either Philly’s or sacs first round pick for 2019, whichever is higher, except if it is number 1, at which point they get the lower of the two. Boston still gets a first round pick if they don’t get it this year.
Sorry meant to say if it falls outside 2-5 this year in my original post.
Which btw, I have no idea what Sacramento is doing and why/how their super valuable 2019 pick ended up going to Bos or Philly.
LeBron on Trae Young: ‘He better go pro.’LeBron James playfully comments on the biggest adjustment Trae Young will have to make going from collegiate to professional basketball.
Trae Young would be a nice get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UT_TmeTsu0
A lot of commentators here don’t seem to realize that Cedi couldn’t start until after the trade deadline. I was among the first to be calling for more time for Cedi, but you can’t play him in front of the guys traded and put the kibosh on the trades.
I see no reason why that should be the case. You play the best players. You can trade people who aren’t playing. Shump was traded. Frye was being shopped when he wasn’t playing. If anything, it’s the opposite – you don’t want a player you’re going to trade to get injured.
It had nothing to do with the guys in front of him being traded. It had to do with Lue feeling the need to appease their egos.
And as it stands, there are eight teams sitting between 17 and 19 wins, all with a real chance to end up picking in the top three save for the Nets, whose pick will go to the Cavs. 7. Cleveland Cavaliers CAVALIERS* | JAREN JACKSON JR., C, MICHIGAN STATE | FR. (Note: Cleveland owns Brooklyn’s unprotected first-round pick.) Height: 6’11” | Weight: 240 | Age: 18 | Last: 6 Amid the flurry of deadline moves Cleveland made, they were wise to hang on to the Brooklyn pick, which is set to land in a desirable range and produce something useful.… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROUXi7jop0
I love the idea of drafting Jackson, unless the Cavs luck into one of the top 2-3 picks. Maybe even then, too…
I would say gotta draft one of Ayton, Bagley, Doncic, Young, Bamba at that point.
Yeah I’d probably agree. Jackson looks really raw. If LeBron is on this team next year, I’m not sure I’d want a project like Jackson.
Is Ayton the overwhelming #1 pick for this 2018 draft? I was just watching some clips and he looks pretty mobile and can shoot the 3 for a big.
Really depends on who has the pick. There are probably three guys that could go #1, depending on the picker.
If the Cavs get the #1, who is the best guy to draft?
I would probably take Ayton or Doncic for the Cavs…if Lebron is staying, Doncic is probably the most ready to play in the NBA right now of all these guys…
Yeah, I would want a more NBA ready guy.
I think Ayton & Doncic are the top 2. Doncic is, by far, the most ready to contribute now. He also has the highest floor (best Euro player at 18, #2 on Euro champs to Dragic). Ayton has the highest ceiling. There may be motor issues & he does not dominate on D. But 19.5/10.7 on 60% FG, 35% 3PT, & 74% FTs is legit. He is also quick & mobile with a 7’5″ wingspan. After those two, depends on what you want: Shooter/Scorer = Porter or Young Post scorer = Bagley Unicorn rim protector + mobility = Bamba (not… Read more »
Thanks for the info!
to me after last week he has earned “MR ” Kolby
agree with EXCL ( HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE )—- In my opinion we got “5 ” NEW GUYS last week–with cedi being the 5th –as he hardly played before —so yes in essence we are ” indoctrinating ” 5 new players —cedi will continue to develop his shot ( especially if he is with korver everyday )—shot is good –but korver will smooth it out even more —-he wil get stronger / bigger/ more athletic/ get ‘tighter ” handles on the dribble —-not trying to put undue pressure on him but @ 22 yrs old —there just might be am… Read more »
Koby on 92.3 The Fan right now…
Can we please call him Korby? No disrespect. It just makes me happy.
You can, but I refuse to after that trade deadline… ;)
Do what you will, but Im with EG
https://twitter.com/cs_mcgowan/status/963469869009326085
Wow. Some real shade on seemingly everyone, but mostly LBJ. Clearly Colin is not as high on the trade and still seemingly upset that the cavs didn’t test Irving’s resolve. I think the stuff coming out about the cavs not doing what LBJ wanted by testing Iriving doesn’t matter. Irving’s decision wasn’t Lebron’s as much as lbj may have wanted it to be. The more I hear about Irving, the more stubborn I think he would of been with regards to holding out or actually getting surgery. Considering he had asked for a trade in 2016 and that the main… Read more »
I think the four new guys are in total more valuable than Kyrie. Due to Kyrie’s sometimes brilliant one on one stuff, people forget his weaknesses.
I think they’re more valuable in the regular season. I’m not sure about the playoffs, when defenses narrow in and sometimes you need guys that can just go get a basket. I think the Cavs are certainly deeper, but I’m not sure they are better.
Yep. Kyrie’s strength is being a guy who can go out and get you high percentage shots (for the playoffs) no matter the d. Not sure those guys, despite being better defensively will be able to make the offense go against gs. For the east, it maybe a wash.
Still a great value compared to what we had though.
Defensively, just having Hill and Nance is a HUGE upgrade over Kyrie… all depends if Hood and Clarkson can create and hit shots in the playoffs…
Is this cedi thing gonna be short lived ?? When one guy needs to come out of rotation when love comes back , who’s that gonna be ? theres at least two players that should be taken out before him!!
I think he will still get minutes, but likely not as many. Ideally, JR and LBJ’s minutes get cut a little in the regular season and Hood/Cedi/Korver pick up more. Would help keep both fresh.
He might remain a starter except in games where TT is a better match for a big center.
I can’t wait to see what he can do defensively on George tonight it will give us a idea how he can defend Kevin Durant
Oh so true. That will be a good test for him.
For all of the wine enthusiasts out there:
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/22358028/the-nba-obsession-wine
Has some interesting information about some of the Cavs and former Cavs obsession with wine as well as some insight into some of the Cavs team building trips in the past few years.
Now we just need some players who are obsessed with GOLD.
I think Cedi is the biggest part of the trades that was over-looked. It forced Ty Lue to give him minutes and he hasn’t disappointed. He’s cut in the same mold that Young-Varejao and Delly were cut from. And that’s the element that we’ve sorely missed once Delly left. That high energy play is what other guys feed off of. When one guy is flopping his hair around and diving for balls and such, other guys want to play with more intensity to match that. It’s contagious, and it’s a big reason why we’ve played with a lot more energy… Read more »
Agree 100%!! He has the Heart , no doubt! Don’t you almost think that he just might have more skills and talent than Andy & Delly? Now, that is awesome!
He does have more talent.
As much as I liked both Andy and Delly, Cedi is on a door level already. Neither Andy or Delly could run the floor like he can nor attack the basket in such a way. He seems like he’ll be a 40% 3pt shooter with what he has shown and his defense so far is better than Delly’s.
*another
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/963454978626080772
His future has been resolved for a long while. Hint: it’s not the NBA.
Thank you so much for all the really cool videos and write-up! Enjoyed reading every minute of it! I knew there had to be something really special about Cedi when Popovich has tried to make trades for him before. If he wanted him, you just knew he could be a diamond in the rough. Fans here just love how he doesn’t give up on the play and his beautiful work ethic. Cleveland eats that kind of character traits. He’s the perceived underdog we cheer so hard for in the games. So I totally get Lebron’s remark on the “purity” of… Read more »
Everything you said is spot on but can I ask if you could separate your thoughts into different paragraphs? It makes it difficult to read since I’m using a smaller phone.
Sorry if I sound like an as$ :(
Sorry, I’m still on medication from my surgery. LoL I was feeling a little high and just kept going with the good vibe. I’ve tried putting a space between before and it doesn’t seem to work. I was more concentrated on the words I was putting together.
I guess I’m guilty of typing under the influence on Cavs the Blog! LoL
Hahahaah no problem. I totally understand.
Great piece on JR by Mac this morning…
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22415152/jr-smith-survived-cleveland-cavaliers-wild-trade-deadline-just-found-groove-nba
The Eight!
Great write up and analysis. Loved the videos to compliment and support the analysis.
jhugz—thank you for sharing !!!
I know we already kind of have Cedi Osman nicknames… but Cedi Osman anagrammed is Sonic Made … Sonic Made Cedi
Maced Ions, Cone Midas
I also like this nickname…
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DnTSnbvVxJY/T-Ybc-2BguI/AAAAAAAAIsU/ivOMD0XCmvg/s1600/IMG_7005.jpg
He is my Turkish Delight
“Turkish Taffey”. Or just “Bonomo”.
As an airline pilot, I travel to Istanbul a lot for work. We have recently landed a contract to fly cargo for Turkish. During my times in Istanbul it’s amazing how many Cavs shirts and jerseys I see. Thanks to Cedi the Cavs are now the official team of Turkey. I love that I get to talk to these people and tell them I’m from Cleveland. Most foreigners really don’t know where Cleveland is but the Turks do.
Go Cavs!
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
That’s really cool.
Doesn’t Blatt coach in Turkey as well?
According to the euoroleague.net he is still coaching in Istanbul.
Airline Pilot flying to Istanbul eh?
agree with you JRL on all accounts !!—————-teams are going to start scouting this “new ” cavs team—it is now up to ty to be able to make proper adjustments
Great article ;) I’ve repeatedly asked why Lue wasn’t giving Cedi any meaningful minutes when he clearly showed he had untapped potential. Crazy that it took this long. The only positive out of the waiting is the fact that the “drains” are gone and now Cedi, along with the new guys, can flourish without being accosted for it. I can imagine IT talking crap about him cause he actually tries and cares. Kind of like a jealous co-worker of the guy who comes in on time and stays late if needed. That jealous/lazy employee then complains cause the other guy… Read more »
Zizic is doing pretty well in the G-League. He’s averaging over a block per game and is almost averaging double figures in rebounds and is averaging over 15ppg I think. I can’t remember where I saw his stats but he’s getting good minutes down in the G-League.
He did do good down there. More reasons for him to be up here getting real minutes. I’m glad we got Nance, he definitely helps, but a 21yo 7′ guy who I think can turn into a solid player should be playing next to LeBron and Love.
Awesome stuff DW! Excellent breakdown of what Cedi brings to the team. Granted, small sample size, but his hustle and activity seem completely sustainable provided Ty keeps giving him decent minutes. Kudos to Ben also for his early analysis of the Jedi!
LET’S PUT “DRAINO” WITH OKAFOR —THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH WRAP UP THE LOTTERY PICK FOR THE CAVS ——-JUST WONDERING HOW MANY TEAMS WERE CALLING THE CAVS ABOUT CEDI/ AND WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING —–GLAD WE WERE SMART ENOUGH TO KEEP THE ‘JEDI “
IT and Okafor would be a glorious PnR combo…would finally be the Big Two the Nets have lacked…
I just started reading David’s Wood Shop. And despite Kyrie drawing the foul in that first clip, he had to work for those points. Even if the opponent scores, they’ve got to be even more exhausted.
https://twitter.com/Bulls_Jay/status/963264653429223426
Love Okafor….he just needs a LOT more minutes for the Nets to really get going…
I really think he’s a 32 minutes a night kind of guy…
Born in the wrong era, unfortunately for him.
Shhhhhhh
i understand there are certain cavs players getting hyperbolic fanfare and Cedi is just the latest….guy has some talent, but he mainly hustles and has energy and tries, which is rare in a lot of NBA circles….lets not correlate that him being a future star…he will be a nice piece in the future for this team and excited to see him grow as a player.
It isn’t just the hustle, but the awareness and understanding of the game. Combine that with good athleticism, length, & versatility & you have a VERY useful player. Especially on a team that usually runs somewhere between ‘chill mode’ & catatonic.
If the jumper & handle improve a bit, look out.
It is hard to predict the future, but Cedi could turn into a star.
I just looked through the comments. Who is claiming that Cedi is to be a future star?
Really enjoyed this David. Cedi might be the best talent acquisition that David Griffin was responsible for.
good write up—-although why / ty –did it take sooooo long ?—–it is “FAT TUESDAY “—–sitting here eating away at my ” PUNZKI’S —LIFE IS GOOD “——hoping the cavs will ‘ FATTEN UP ” on opponents the rest of the way ——-I LOVE FAT TUESDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!——-GO CEDI / CAVS —ALL IN -THE LAND !!!
Well check out Fat JR in this awesome clip…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfEuPWYA1Qw/
Again, Altman & Gilbert & Griffin made the right call in not including Osman in any trades. This year or last. He is a quicker, longer, more athletic verson of Crowder.
Yeah, I’m not claiming Cedi is or even will be an All Star (although he may be), but what a disaster if they had traded him. A tall, active, fast guy with skills? Every team needs those guys.
Great Wood Shop, David. Glad we are all finally talking about Cedi. Ben should go ahead and take his bow now.
long live cedi
I remember reading that Ben Werth comment back then…looks pretty smart now, huh? Excellent article, thank you!
Great stuff, David. And yeah. Ben Werth was on Cedi before anyone. Do the Cavs draft Osman without Ben’s scouting tip? Maybe they do… Maybe they don’t…
It’s pretty obvious now that someone in that FO reads CtB… Most likely Gilbert himself.
Yep! he’s a fan so therefore Brilliant!!