From Distance: Value in Size
2018-02-16Four point play…
1. The house I grew up in is not of the typical cookie-cutter design that mostly permeates Mentor, Ohio. It was built in the early part of the 20th century by a somewhat amateur architect with a penchant for international flair. As far as I know, he made four houses in all.
Diagonally across our little boulevard, a beautiful Tudor sticks out like an incredibly healthy thumb. Directly across from the Tudor and adjacent to my father’s home is a Mexican style stucco that quite delightfully confuses our sensibilities. Going the other direction sits a somewhat boring colonial style home of no particular note. Three outta four ain’t bad. Then there is my childhood house.
We frequently referred to it as a gingerbread house. Considering its severely sloping red roof, it would possibly make more sense chilling deep in the Black Forest or the Swiss Alps (though to be fair, lake effect snow does make that roof rather useful). It’s brick, but the architect being the guy he was, thought a little stucco would add some flair as well. It was scary for kids on Halloween, and adored by my mother and father year round.
While we all loved the character and individuality of our house, especially amidst the architectural boredom that is Midwestern suburbia, there was one primary problem that prevented complete satisfaction.
The house is small. It is more than enough for my father now, but I grew up with two older sisters. Let’s say there weren’t quite enough rooms in which to comfortably squeeze five people. It’s a sturdy, charming house that is wonderful for a couple with one child. It was out of its league for five.
Sometimes no matter the flair or beauty, it’s just not big enough. I could stand in the living room and touch the roughly eight foot ceiling. Which, incidentally, is something that Trae Young couldn’t do.
2. I enjoy watching Trae Young’s lightening fast release as much as anyone. The time it takes the young man to gather and launch is simply incredible. The shot form itself is also interesting. Trae doesn’t ditch any momentum from his legs through his flick.
There has been a bit of a revolution when it comes to shooting style in the last few years. More and more players are taking Steph Curry’s seemingly “release on the way up” as a model. If a small player has good footwork and a great handle, the shot is more likely to get off than an old school, Klay Thompson/Mark Price textbook jumper would.
It’s a pretty shot in many ways and one that is likely to be accurate on open shots at the next level. Basically the complete opposite of Lonzo Ball’s ridiculous stroke.
Still, Young is simply too pedestrian an athlete for me to get excited. I wasn’t joking about his standing reach. He has been measured to have a reach under eight feet. His 6’2″ wingspan and average quickness don’t give me any more confidence that the young man will have a chance in any post-mortem reality of not being a horrific defender on the next level.
We have just been liberated of having to watch Isaiah Thomas on a nightly basis. Young does tower over Thomas, but has half the quickness that IT has displayed throughout his career. Young hasn’t even been able to consistently get into the paint against the better college teams. He does most of his damage on wicked pullups and backcuts when defenders get too high. Defensively, he’s a non-entity.
Let’s be honest, there is chance that Trae Young could be the next Steph Curry. I certainly didn’t expect Curry to be able to develop his body as well as he has. Still, I think the likelihood of him being the next Brandon Jennings is higher. A slower, right-handed, admittedly better shooting Jennings. Does that really excite you?
Enough about that. We will have plenty of time to cover draft prospects as we move through the year. This post is more about size. The reason Cavs fans should have no reason to curb their enthusiasm post “Altman miracle 2018” is the size and length that joined the squad.
3. We have covered the individual players over the last week. Let’s see how the new longer Cavaliers may be best deployed. I’ll tackle a new lineup each week over the next couple to see how this will fly.
Lineup: Nance, LeBron, Korver, Hood, Cedi.
Why it will work: We have already seen the pace and force with which LeBron James and Larry Nance Jr run the Pick and Roll. An opposing defense can’t load up on any primary action of the play without giving up three pointers all over the floor. Nance is too good of a dive man for a defense not to crash early on the weakside. Obviously, a defense can’t really afford not to help hard on LeBron as he comes barreling down the lane.
The result is that opposing defenses are clogging the paint early, begging Nance to be a short roll shot creator. Junior has been up to the task. In the play below Felton does a good job of eliminating the short corner three pass, but Nance still understands where his outlet is. He might have been able to shoot it as well, but clearly, Larry is looking to find his shooters. The ball keeps popping until Hood drains the three.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJFFPkJOTM&t=4m10s
Hood is a great top of the break three point shooter. A lot of extended ball swings against good defensive rotation result in shot opportunities from the top of the arc. Come playoff time, no good team is going to let an offense step into easy corner threes. The fact that Hood drills the top of the arc shot is a great asset for Cavalier floor-spacing.
Hood and Nance have also already shown a proclivity to use a high dribble hand-off on the weakside after pin down action to free Hood for his pet straightaway bomb. If a defense traps too stop Hood’s three, they risk a direct roll to the basket from Nance.
None of this is revolutionary stuff. It’s just that Hood is a better shooter and Nance is a better rolling playmaker than Wade and Tristan respectively. Their skill-sets make these actions almost impossible to stop. Remember, during the Nance/Hood dance, the defense also has to worry about Korver on the opposite side of the floor.
I’m sure defenses will take their chances funneling the ball to Nance as a roller and Cedi as an “anything-er”. Teams still don’t have much info on Osman’s play-making ability. They don’t really respect his jumper yet either. Cedi will continue to get wide open weakside threes whenever he wants.
Good. The fact is, Osman is a far better play-maker than people know yet. His strange free throw shooting struggles aside, he is also effective in attacking closeouts with efficiency and leverage.
Defensively, for the most part, the lineup can switch across the board without having to sacrifice too much rebounding. Having a 6’8″ guy in Cedi essentially acting as a defensive point guard will allow the Cavs to hit the glass from a few more angles than normal.
Korver, Cedi, and Nance all do a great job of finding guys to boxout. When locked in LeBron is a fantastic defensive rebounder. While Hood isn’t spectacular on that front, the threat of his leak out does prevent the offense from crashing too hard.
Why it won’t work: Against a monster like Steven Adams, Nance and Bron might not be enough upfront to have a chance to regularly finish defensive possessions via rebound. Love’s boxout mastery would be necessary against the real giants of the NBA. Still, there are so few of those guys around to really concern me.
The lineup also lacks a secondary play-maker that has a long history of success in the NBA. It is conceivable that Hood and Cedi just wouldn’t come through in times of real consequence. A George Hill steadying presence might be necessary in place of Hood or Cedi.
I’m still optmistic. The shooting and constant motion that Hood, Korver, and Osman supply would tire the defense out in a way that benefits play-making. Nance isn’t the minus that Tristan Thompson is in that regard. And, ya know, LeBron.
Conclusion: At the moment, it doesn’t seem like this would be the primary lineup to take down any team in a Finals series. Hood, Cedi, and Nance are all green. Still, the physical matchup abilities of this lineup are more than intriguing. The Cavs no longer need to worry about Andre Iguodala or Shaun Livingston’s size against the Warriors. Cleveland has its own length to counter with in the backcourt.
4. Are we getting ahead of ourselves? No. Assuming LeBron stays healthy, this team needs to be thinking about lineups for the Warriors from here on out. The Celtics won’t be able to score with the Cavs in the playoffs. The Raptors won’t be able to stop the Cavs either.
Size, length, and athleticism… Now that the Cavs have it, it’s time to think about the big time.
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Get Well Soon Channing
https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/964953323274043392?s=20
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He did well to not even mention her name. She’s trash.
100% agree.
Right. I wouldn’t even read what she said. She is a paid Trump apologist.
Another thing to keep in mind with Jackson’s frame/body is that he is 16 months younger than Bamba, 14 months younger than Ayton, and 6 months younger than Bagley, while appearing to have the best defensive instincts out of all of them at this point.
Ringer has a decent scouting report on him. Rebounding is a concern, but pairing him with TT, Nance, and Love could mitigate that.
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/2/6/16976438/jaren-jackson-jr-best-big-man-draft
Suns blog podcast with thoughts on those guys for their team and their individual skills/potential.
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/2/16/17021992/locked-on-phoenix-suns-friday-nba-podcast-scouting-mohamed-bamba-marvin-bagley-iii-jaren-jackson-jr
TT- honestly don’t see much of future for him here. Only thing is not sure if anyone wants his contract, but hey- Kings took Shump which is an even worse contract, so you never know.
I have a feeling that TT will finish his contract here. He’ll never get anything remotely close to that again.
Shumps contract was not that bad.. player option for next year which is $11M. If he opts out this summer, he’s a free agent. I think he def would’ve opted in if he stayed in CLE, but Kings are so dysfunctional idk if he would want to stay there. His skill set is much more useful if a coach can get him to actually accept a role.
On the other hand, Cavs are stuck with TT for $17.4M next year and $18.5M the year after… for an undersized big with no offensive game and limited rim protection.
College hoops is hard to watch. Brick city.
Jackson with zero boards. He seems awfully skinny.
Tied up in Northwestern. Jackson gives Sparty the lead after being down 27.
Jackson a quick 3-3 in the second half. Sparty within 10.
Knox has 11 pts in 5 minutes making me look stupid.
I think Knox has Stanley Johnson written all over him.
Bamba 10/18 & 4 blocks. 4\6 FT. 3/8 FG.
Young 26/5/7 on 7/21 FG & 3\9 deep.
2nd half: Knox scoreless; Sexton 6 pts on 2\6.
MSU getting waxed by Northwestern. Jackson 2 fouls. 2 pts on 1-5. No boards or blocks.
While I think one of Jackson, Bridges (Villanova), Knox, or Sexton could move up into the top 6 depending on who is picking, I think the top 6 are pretty set:
1/2: Ayton & Doncic
3-6: Bagley, Porter, Bamba, Young
For me:
7/8: Jackson, Bridges (Vill)
I would take Jackson over Young and Porter Jr (injury risk and no body of work against better competition) at this point.
Porter would be no.1 if he wasn’t injured. He is basically Ben Simmons with a jump shot (though also less passing). I think Ayton and Bamba will both be good. Bagley will take the duration of his rookie contract to figure out how to play in the nba when he can’t just play bully ball (see Julius Randle). Bamba has the least uncertainty and the most upside because being an athlete at his size is a proven plus in basketball. I’m also coming around to Ayton.
Don’t think Young will be that good at NBA level. Don’t see the Curry comparison measuring up when he is a pro. Cavs are in a good position now, good depth in this upcoming draft. They should be able to add depth, athleticism, and even more youth at the 3, 4 or 5 position. Should stick with Hill and Hood, with Clarkson off bench to round out their backcourt for now.
With you on Young…Curry is a once in a lifetime talent…Young is a roll of the dice, and he likely will always be a weakness on defense…I’d look at whatever Big or Wing is available first…
I think how Hill, Clarkson, Hill, & Cedi play will have a big impact on how we draft. We seem thinnest at the 5 and with shooting bigs, which would seem to scream Ayton, Bamba, Jackson, Bagley, or matbe Porter.
However, Korver turns 37 this year & JR is streaky, so a wing type could be in order: Doncic, Bridges, Knox, or maybe Porter.
If Clarkson or Hill flame out, or we lose due to lack of PG scoring, Young is in play.
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Bamba 17 rebounds…
18 rebounds…if the Suns have the opportunity to take Bamba and take someone else, I think it’s a mistake…he is exactly the kind of player they need…
GAFFORD of Arkansas is starting to garner a lot of interest—–7′ with a high ceiling—-might not be ready for a year or 2—could be comparable to CAPELLA on the rockets who needed a couple years of seasoning
I’ll be so happy when Viatel is no longer broadcasting…
young’s stock is falling—-just think the pressure has ‘gotten ” the best of him—not playing with confidence/fun —I think KNOX might be one of those ‘SLEEPERS ‘ that turns out to be a better pro than college —-bridges has a “pro ” body already / toughness / shot needs work and handles tightened up
I’m scared that Young will be there for Cavs, and they draft him, and he is a huge disappointed. I’m wondering if every skinny college 6’1-‘6’3″ player who can shoot threes will be compared to Curry from now on. What Curry does is often superhuman, stop comparing 19 year olds to him…
He has a similar shooting release. My concern with Young is his defense. Can he develop enough to become average on D.
Boy, give me Bamba…be he’s gone in top 3, though…
Haven’t seen him play yet. Does he have any offensive game? Can he shoot?
It’s getting better….he’s most effective in the paint, has some post moves…not sure about an outside shot. But he is just a beast…
Just took a shot standing on the three point line, went off back of the rim, but he looks fine as a shooter…
Nice
That dude is a legit defensive unicorn. Longest wingspan ever. Insane quickness. I think he can come close to the top of the backboard.
Offensive game lacks polish. But has a decent FT stroke. But you KNOW you are getting rim protection, rebounding, & lob catching at elite levels. Plus he can guard some on the perimeter.
I might take Jackson over Bamba. Good shooter, 44% from 3 on 2.8 attempts per game. Insane block rate 14.9% d poss end in block when he is in, way higher than Bamba’s I believe. 3.3 bpg at only 22 mpg. Wild. 6’11” 242 lbs. Would provide spacing and insane paint protection likely far more quick than Bamba. Bamba could take years.
For comparison, Bamba is 13.7 block % at 4 bpg in 31.5 mpg. Also, Bamba has a much longer way to go as a shooter. Small sample, but 28% from three on 1.8 attempts per g. Big 10 is also the best conference this year and MSU has played a much stronger schedule.
I don’t think either guy will take too many 3s for us. Protecting the rim, catching lobs, rebounding, & finishing inside are more important. Shooting is a cherry.
Disagree. You could obliterate teams with a four out lineup with James. Imagine having a lob threat like TT or Nance who can step out and hit threes. You will never have spacing issues with Jackson and can play him with TT, Nance, and Green while not sacrificing spacing. Talk about a mega tall lineup with spacing and two mobile bigs.
For more comparison AD had a 13.7 blk % with 4.7 bpg in 32 mpg in college. Per 100 pos, AD 8.8 blks, Jackson 8.5 blks, Bamba 7.6 blks.
As far as dbpm, AD +10.8 Jackson +11.3, Bamba +9.4.
Obpm, AD +7.8, Jackson +5.9, Bamba +2.4.
Both AD and Jackson have absurd net bpms in college at 18.7 and 17.2 respectively. Bamba also has a great net rating at 11.8, but he is nowhere near as impactful on offense.
For another comparison, Ayton BPM are, 6.2 obpm, and 3.6 bpm.
Sorry blk % is according to bball ref an estimate of possessions ending in 2pt shots that are blocked while a player is on the floor.
I do not think Jackson is quicket than Bamba. By a tad if at all. Nor as good on the boards. Better shooter. Better D instincts as well.
Not as good on the boards no. Probably not as quick. Not sure they have time to wait for Bamba though.
I think Cavs should go after Michael Porter, Luka Doncic, Kevin Knox, Mikal Bridges, or Miles Bridges.
Miles Bridges is my favorite of the more likely options. Not a fan of Trae Young.
Miles Bridges or Kevin Knox would be my choice if the pick falls between 7-10.
If the pick fell between 7-10 and Trae Young is still there, then I’d take him.
I’d take Bridges, if they are picking 6-8 area, don’t think they’ll have a shot at Doncic…not really sold on Porter as a good fit, and Young scares the crap out of me.
2 potential cavs picks–BAMBA/ YOUNG —ON T.V. RIGHT NOW
Not a good day for Young, but Bamba looks good. Bamba gets picked in the top 3-4, I’d imagine…
…and Young airballsa three…
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but this Bill Simmons podcast, which I posted below, is pretty awesome.
I hope they ran down all the potential Kyrie trade/ free agent destination possibilities…
It’s worth a listen. It’s basically the Roadtrippin’ pod with Allie, RJ, and Simmons.
Wait what? Bill is organizing the troops!
https://twitter.com/ringer/status/964680823722074112?s=20
Okay I didn’t listen yet.
Here’s the content: HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Nuggets forward Richard Jefferson to discuss his new life in Denver (6:00), Jamal Murray’s potential (12:00), Luke Walton vs. LaVar Ball (22:00), the most impressive rookie in the NBA (30:00), the LeBron GM narrative (38:00), Kyrie Irving’s ability to lead (46:00), the IT situation in Cleveland (56:00), and the best NBA teammates (1:04:00).
So worth listening. Allie Clifton is on this podcast.
Definitely worth listening to.
RE: James Jones could calm down LeBron, JR, RJ, and anyone.
“DUNK”—TOO MUCH BEER CONSUMPTION FOR THE “DUNCE”
evil my attempt at skiing were more of the “TUMBLE ” variety —-have always liked the ski jump ( morbid of me ) due to “–wide world sports famous picture —jumper wiping out “—just to witness another one ( wipeout )—–will watch tomorrow night as ” L-JR ” WINS THE DUNCK CONTEST
I might watch the rising stars game later…
Anyone watching the celebrity game?
um no. olympics!
Ugh… winter olympics is so boring…
Disagree. Other than sprints and bball, I think it is way more entertaining than the summer Olympics.
How many different ways can you slide on ice and snow? Please…
Get off my snow covered lawn!
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Lots and most of them are fun. Though not as much a fan of the ice events, except for hockey.
Slalom, moguls, freestyle, ski jump, downhill, cross county, half pipe, down hill snow boarding are all more entertaining than long distance, swimming, and whatever weird rowing stuff. Soccer can be fun. Am I missing other summer events?
I also like cross country skiing but I know I am an outlier. I used to cross country ski in Ohio though and am amazed at the stamina and skill of Olympic skate skiers since I could never really skate ski all that well.
Not to mention that most of Asia, Africa, South America and Australia don’t really have much snow so can’t participate.
Haven’t been much of a fan of either since I was a kid.
I consider anything with judges holding up scorecards to be dance, not sports. And there is nothing wrong with dance, and it might be very hard, but it should not be passed off as sports.
Meh, I get your point, but as pure entertainment, flipping in the air about 10 times over snow and ice is pretty ok.
With you John. No way is skiing ever boring. Ski jumping. Luge. Skeleton is borderline insane. Bobsled. Hockey. Speed skating. Short track. I can even watch Curling. Love the winter games.
Oh forgot about the crazy ice sledding people. Luge also happens to be one of the most dangerous sports.
I like the little I’ve seen from Trae Young, but also respect Ben’s scouting report. So if they get Trae Young with the 7-8 pick I won’t be disappointed.
We have more good players. They have more great players (2-1). And more all-stars (4-2). Depth & LeBron are our advantages.
In terms of rotations, I think we have a strength in numbers for once. The Dubs wore the shorthanded Cavs down in 2015.
For once, we have a depth advantage. Play MORE guys. Play harder in shorter stints. Our advantage isn’t as great as theirs was, but it is silly to throw away any advantage.
Plus, if we can keep them out of the paint, a tired team that relies on jumpers is a team that can get beat.
I 100% agree! In the last three years, the Cavs got hurt by the better bench of the Dubs. But Iguodala and Livingston are getting kind of old (34, 32) and the Cavs are just deeper.
I’m not sure we have a depth advantage, especially when they have 4 all-stars. But we are certainly better suited depth-wise.
This is amazing…
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/964575223021367296
Well, that is one of the best things I have ever seen on the internet. Poor Channing, lol. I laughed so hard when he picked up the picture of lil Kevin and it had, “take care of this, love RJ,” on the back. Would have been nice to have Koby in there as the hand of the king.
This is viral-worthy. Superb.
That is great.
This is the best!
I also, think in terms of fit, one of the bigs fit better with the cavs needs. Bamba and Bagley may take awhile to truly develop though. Ayton is probably ready to come in and provide some decent minutes on both ends. Jackson may be as well considering he has range and appears to be the best defensive big in the country in terms of plus minus and block rate. Unfortunately, no one knows much about Porter JR other than measurable and his high school footage. If one of Doncic or Ayton is there, I think you take one of… Read more »
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Haha!!!!
That sounds like some confined quarters to grow up in, Ben. Awesome read as usual… love that lineup and hope Lue continues to develop trust in Cedi to continue put him out there even when Love comes back. Although, I do worry it’s certainly possible that he’s one of the odd men out, or at least only used in certain matchups once Love does return… I’m still not convinced that Lue will keep his rotation at 10 or 11 when the playoffs roll around… even though teams like GS have done that with success in the recent past… Cedi, Korver… Read more »
I am in favor of a longer playoff bench if you have the players to do it. For the first time ever, the Cavs do.
Let’s hope coach Lue agrees with you…
Good to see Nick Gilbert recovering.
Great article, as always, Ben.
Wasn’t Jimmer Fredette just a guy dropping 20 a night on deep pull up 3s with a quick release?
I don’t remember Jimmer’s release being very quick. Deep pull up threes, yes. I guess his release is plenty quick for China, though…IT should take note…
As a senior against, worse competition. He also didn’t have anywhere near the handle or passing ability as young. While Young might struggle to finish a bit at the rim, so did curry initially. He shot in the 0-3 foot range his first four years, including two where he shot 62% and 60%, but the others he shot, 56% and 58% from that range (still good for a guard, but nowhere near his MVP year onward). But yeah, certainly Young is likely less of a sure thing out of Ayton, Bagley, Bamba, Doncic, Jackson, just based off his measurable physical… Read more »
has trae young even thrown his mouthguard in the stands yet? next curry yeah right
Great article Ben.
Slight disagreement on Young, the concept at least. You don’t need elite athleticism (Magic, Bird, Duncan, Curry, Sockton, Nash, Paul) to be an all-timer. The list of franchise level smalls is a LOT shorter (Cousy, Zeke, maybe Stockton/Nash, Curry). Young has to do it all for Oklahoma. With more space, it might look a lot diffetent. Spot on about the D.
Yep. We have a lot of fun lineups we can trot out.
I think Young and Curry have the same wingspan and standing reach. Is standing reach a huge problem for Young?
Under 8 feet is really short for the NBA. That quick release might be frequently smacked into his face.
He might be good, but not top player good to me.
Duncan was a big and an elite athlete. His lateral explosion was incredible, but more to the point, he was a legit big. Bird was big for his position and strong as all hell. Magic was also obviously a giant for his position and ran all day. Not a leaper but dude was 6’9″. Basically, this conversation should be limited to guys under 6’3″. Cousy doesn’t count because of era. Thomas and Nash were legit super speed guys. Paul is insanely stout and much quicker than Young, especially preinjury and in his prime. That leaves Stockton and Curry. Curry got… Read more »
Valid points. Especially on the height. But I think you are overestimating the atleticism of Nash & Duncan. Not to mention Paul. Or conflating quickness & athleticism, though one is an aspect of the other. Still, I will take guys with elite skills (shoot & pass) who know the game over elite athletes who lack motor or IQ or skills. I would much rather roll the dice on Doncic, Young, Porter types than Bagley or Sexton types. Especially on a LeBron team. Higher floors if lower ceilings. We know Bamba & Jackson can defend at min. And Ayton can score.… Read more »
And all great college players do not have to do it all. That is nonsense. Kyrie didn’t have to. Bagley & Ayton have other first rounders on the squad. Young does not.
I’m not sold on Bamba ever being much offensively, but I’d be okay if the Cavs get him just because he is such a menace defensively. He’ll likely be gone by the time the Cavs pick, but I wouldn’t be upset if he’s there…
He has shown a lot more recently on that end, but he is still raw.
Bamba has been scoring 20 the last few games. He will give Gobert Level offense and defense. The Jazz have won their last 11 games for a reason since Gobert came back.
Wow. You are massively underestimating Tim Duncan. As ben mentioned, he was an incredible lateral athlete. Imagine an 7-foot Cedi. In addition, he didn’t need to be an explosive leaper because he was long, had huge hands, a huge frame and impeccable timing. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t absolutely explosive when he came in the league. But he also didn’t overjump (which likely prolonged his career).
Stockton is my vote for the most undervalued player in NBA history. He was as you say, very strong. A lot of people say he and kidd had the greatest hands of guards ever. Everyone said Stockton could break your will with his handshake. He was also probably the toughest point guard of the last 30 years. He set menacing screens ad knew every dirty trick in the book on offense and defense. He also, as a point guard, led the NBA in field goal percentage for most of a season (think he got edged out at the end). Combine… Read more »
agree with you on “L-JR “—just growing into his potential/ being around LeBron won’t hurt his growth either —-yeah mentioned yesterday about Trae Young—-season / opponents / media are starting to ‘catch up ‘ with him —-size / strength are a concern at the next level ( reminder similar concerns with curry coming out of college )—still believe his stock has fallen —-but if cavs DID take him –being on the same team with LeBron / this group of players– he wouldn’t be shouldering all the pressure —another factor LeBron is a HUGE fan of his / might ‘ dictate/… Read more »
LeBron was a big fan of Shabazz Napier, too. College player evaluation is not his strength.
Yeah. Don’t want him director of college scouting when he retires. Nobody’s perfect.
Shabazz has had a very good season and did last year as well…
my bad —should have been to nick gilbert
Am I the only that thinks Nick Gilbert can/should broker the peace between LeBron and Dan?
Solid work Ben. Exciting to think about the possibility of Cedi playing on one of our secret weapon lineups, but at least this year, can we really trust tye lue to give him minutes even now? Let alone after Love returns? I don’t hold out any hope for Cedi’s less than surprising solid play to be allowed to continue. However, sub in Jeff green for Desi in that lineup and I Think we have a lineup lue will be on board with, and it could work similarly on offense and be only slightly different on d. Plus, I think Nance… Read more »
I love that Cedi and Uncle Jeff defend the other teams PG. They have enough quickness and length to not give easy looks. I think the 2nd playmaker will be a night to night basis much like 04 Pistons and Hakeem’s Rockets. I think Cavs have a better chance with this roster than last year’s Finals team.
Now with the Nets pick most likely becoming a franchise pick, I can’t see a better destination for LBJ if this squad is relatively competitive vs Warriors.
Always look forward to these, Ben. I do share your misgivings about Young, and he’d be one of the last lottery guys I’d want on the Cavs. I think Orlando has their eye on him, since they just dumped Payton. He could be good down the line, but I think he will take a while to get there. His defensive potential is not appetizing to me, either. As far as the ‘next Curry’…yeah, maybe…show me ‘the next Curry!’, and I’ll show you a chimera.
great stuff ben —as usual ——-just great vibes since ” THE TRADE “—–congrats to david griffin / family on a succesful surgery !!—last night’s “DRAINO’S ‘ stat line —3/15——” and the beat goes on !!!!