Recap: Cavs 123, Knicks 109 (Or, Of Course)
2018-04-10Not a lot happened in this game that was unexpected. The Cavs managed to beat the New York Knicks 123 to 109. They accomplished this feet by trying, well, only sometimes. Of course this would be the outcome and everyone in the arena knew it. New York is in tank mode and Cleveland doesn’t much care about their seeding going into the playoffs. Fortunately, the Cavs did manage to get slightly more healthy as George Hill returned to action for 5 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds, and 2 steals on only 20 minutes. Despite some mediocre scoring numbers, Hill started and was +6 on the day and had some nice defensive plays.
The real stars of the show were LeBron and Kevin Love, of course, as the pair combined for 54 points. Love’s impact was immediately felt in the first quarter as he started the 3-5 from beyond the arc. It’s pretty clear that the changes Kevin made to his shooting form while injured have had a major positive impact on his shot. He’s getting the ball out of his hand quicker and he looks strong while doing it. He’s shooting deeper and quicker and they are going in. Koach Korver has added another student to his resume and the Cavs are the beneficiaries.
The other Cavalier to have an impact this game was JR Smith (16 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals for a team high +14) who checked in halfway through the quarter and put in a layup and a three. It was clear that LeBron and company were only going to give just as much effort as necessary to win in this nearly-meaningless game. Despite a barrage of six threes, the Cavs only managed to come out of the quarter ahead 26-25.
Ty Lue started the second quarter with a lineup of George Hill, Jordan Clarkson, JR Smith, Tristan Thompson, and Larry Nance Jr. Why, you ask? Because of course he did. The shocking thing is, the lineup actually extended the lead out to 10 points before LeBron and Love reentered the game. JR managed to continue to put his thumb print on the game. Below you can see a sweet alley-oop from Smith to Nance. It is always a good idea when Clarkson (16 points on 5 of 9 shooting and 3 assists for +11) is off the ball and having Hill in with Clarkson helped to remedy some of his chuck first, pass later tendencies. Despite being able to extend the lead, Tristan was still pretty useless. Yes, he ended the game +5 with 5 points, 4 rebounds, and an assist, but he also through a block party and invited all of the Knicks. Seriously, he seems to have lost every bit of his explosiveness that he had two seasons ago. Luckily, Lue only played him 9 minutes this game. That’s a good sign.
Love continued to rain threes once checking back in as he added two more in the second half of the quarter. He would finish the quarter with 15 points, all threes. The highlight of the half came with just 1:23 left in the half as LeBron showed us all once again just how silly we were to think he was actually aging. After a rebound by Korver that lead to LeBron being out in the open court, LBJ proceeded to explode out of the gym and throw down a major jam to give us a glimpse of LeBron James circa 2007. See the clip below. JR ended the quarter with one more three and the Cavs would finish the half up 61-49.
Cleveland started the third quarter off with a made technical free throw by Love followed quickly by a nice back door cut and finish by Kevin off a pass from the top of the key from James. The Cavs kept the Knicks at arm’s length for the whole quarter as LeBron showed off his passing skills, lazering the ball time and again to a cutting teammate. When the King’s passes are this sharp, there is nothing anyone on the opposing team can do to stop the man. Of course, we all know this to be true, it’s just so special to watch on a nightly basis. He would end the night with 26 points and 11 assists. The third quarter ended with the Cavs up 90-77.
At the start of the fourth quarter Lue went back to a lineup featuring both Tristan Thompson and Larry Nance Jr. but the lineup could not replicate the earlier success and they promptly allowed the Knicks back within single digits because they couldn’t score. Of course, it never really seemed like the game was in doubt and once the lead was cut to five, Love returned to the lineup and all doubt was removed. A few minutes later, at the Cavs would start a monster run as they engaged their thrusters and scored 15 points over the last 3:34 of the game. Clarkson knocked down a pair of threes and a pair of free throws and LeBron chipped in a three of his own. Add that to a trio of layups from Love, Zizic, and Smith and you get the final score to the game as the Cavs come away with another win in MSG, 123-109.
Some Thoughts:
1) Well, if everyone remembers, Cedi Osman missed a couple of big threes after playing nearly the entire second half against the Sixers a few nights ago. Lue didn’t forget either, and, apparently, he holds grudges. Of course, Lue glued Osman’s Turkish rear to the bench giving him a tiny scrap of garbage time minutes to clean up the game. Ty Lue is infuriating.
2) Speaking of Lue’s infuriating decisions, he needs to stop playing Thompson and Nance together. It doesn’t work. In fact, he needs to stop playing T-Top all together. Fortunately, TT only received 9 minutes tonight. That’s more than enough if you ask me. Though, Zizic really should be getting those 9 minutes.
3) The Cavaliers are now just a Rodney Hood return away from being a completely healthy roster for what would be just the second time all season. In addition, Cleveland signed LeBron favorite Kendrick Perkins to the roster for the playoffs. Perk will no doubt add to the culture of the locker room and should be considered full-time security detail should things get chippy. *cough cough* I’m looking at you President Stevens…
With just one more game to go against the Knicks on Wednesday, and Philly with games against the Hawks left, I hope the Cavs just rest up. Give LeBron the token start and allow him to get 10 points then sit him down and don’t risk more injuries. The Cavs haven’t been healthy all season long and there isn’t much of a reason to risk that for an outside shot at the three seed instead of the four. With only one more game to go, LeBron and company will finish up the regular season and transition to what we’ve all been waiting for, the playoffs. As always, Go Cavs!
Can’t a mature member of the Cavs, such as perhaps JR Smith, mentor TT about doing monumentally stupid things? TT is going down the ‘athlete who will be bankrupt 2 years after he’s out of the league’ road that Tom Pestak has written of so much…
Many people that age refuse to listen to anyone older that knows anything. Probably a lot of us remember being that person.
I thought Cavs playing knicks today and here we have recap before the game.
On second thought, Tristan’s latest transgressions may have finally lifted the Kardashian curse… apparently all of the Kardashians unfollowed him on Twitter.
The Greek Freak is playing tonight. Hope he goes for 30/10 and the Cavs get the third seed. Delly is back too.
Link on the Bucks pick:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
TY VOWS —–defense will be DIFFERENT——notice he didn’t say BETTER ——-have to believe ty knows he is on thin ice as far as his coaching time here with the cavs —–he will need to make a deep playoff run —-that might not even save his job
As if playing a scheme in the POs we have not played all year is somehow a good idea.
Exactly.
you would need him for tanking if king leaves. But if King comes back, please get a new coach.
it is obvious T.T. IS NOT focused on basketball—way too many distractions—–either ANTE OR ANGRY SMURF BEFORE T.T. —why is it so difficult for the coaches to make that decision
Obvious to everyone but Ty. But why give time to a guy who is younger, cheaper, more effective offensively, a better rim protector, and a better FT shooter.
https://twitter.com/GreggWilliamsOH/status/983854135777878017
Who was his previous GF?
https://pagesix.com/2018/04/10/inside-tristan-thompsons-night-with-curvy-instagram-model/
What happened every other year?
he apparently blamed his cavs teammates. Trade him for Joakim Noah in summer.
Bucks should be somewhat motivated to try to beat the Sixers. I think I read that if they lose tonight their 1st round pick conveys to Phoenix.
I’m pretty sure as long as Bucks make playoffs they keep the pick.
Wrong. Pick has protections starting at 17. 14 in the lotto. The need to finish ahead of 2 PO teams to retain it.
They will finish ahead of the Clips. 1 game lead on Heat & Wiz. But lose TBs to both & are last in a 3 way.
Tricky, as all the teams are gunning for 7th. Giannis has a gimply ankle. And Philly wants this last game.
For all the times I am a negative Nancy about the Cavs, the Dubs without Steph are vulnerable.
Spurs with Kawhi, Denver, or Minny all have a shot. Ditto OKC or Utah, though that may be round 2 or later.
Pels or Spurs sans Kawhi will be easy.
They’ve always been vulnerable without Curry, Durant or not.
Curry makes everything so much easier for everyone, including Durant. As we all know, Durant can’t carry a team like LeBron can and has shown he folds under pressure. I hopw they get bounced early. Sport-Hate their stupid fan base and Dray with a vengeance.
+10000
Can the Tristan Thompson situation get any worse, you ask?
https://pagesix.com/2018/04/10/inside-tristan-thompsons-night-with-curvy-instagram-model/
Watersports advisory:
http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/10/tristan-thompson-cheating-khloe-kardashian-pregnant-kissing/
On his way to being almost useless on the court & Shawn Kemp off it.
Just saw the news. WTF???
just terrible
I find this sort of reporting distateful. Obviously, if he actually did cheat on the woman he is with, it is a garbage thing to do. However, I never feel like that sort of thing is any of my business as a basketball fan unless there are criminal charges involved in whatever off court problems an athlete may have. I also don’t like to speculate on how something that may or may not have happened in an athlete’s private life affects their on court performance. I don’t need to know about it. I can see how an athlete performs in… Read more »
While I agree, this case is somewhat different.
1. He has chosen to be in an ultra high profile celebrity couple / reality show relationship.
2. He has make little effort to be discrete.
3. He is putting the Cavs in the news in a bad way on the eve of the playoffs,
4. Affect his job performance? I think so.
5. Etc.
Fair points. Though I can’t speculate that just because the person he is involved with is a high profile celebrity, he wants to be in that world. I mean, he may be with her in spite of that. You could argue that that is choice, but I think it would be a little unfair to say definitively he wants or enjoys that part of it. It just may be something he puts up with. As far as being discrete, well obviously he leaves himself open to public spectacle so there is no defense for that. Obviously he chooses to publicly… Read more »
LOL at Warriors…
LOL at Kevin Durant…
agreed –all in for losing –staying healthy and finally ——‘FREE ANTE—OKRA ” —-YOU KNOW IF LEBRON PLAYS HE HAS TO GET HIS DOUBLE DIGIT PTS FOR THE STREAK —–AND KNOWING LEBRON HE WILL WANT TO PLAY IN ALL 82 GAMES
Lets just lose tomorrow pls – help the brooklyn pick out
Agreed.
Tie for 8th is worst case if we lose. I think they split ping pong balls in case of ties & draw lots to see who slots in first.
To me there is no reason for the Cavs to play LeBron tomorrow. The Sizers are not going to lose against the Bucks if Gianni’s doesn’t play so just give LeBron the night off. If the Cavs can’t beat the Knicks without LBJ then they should not be talking about contending for a championship.
We all know that without Kyrie LeBron will have to carry the Cavs like he did back in 2015 so it’s better to have him rest for almost 4 or 5 days of rest than just 2 or 3 days of rest.
My honest opinion.
All lotto teams should have equal odds. Draw for 1-3. Then by record.
who is in favor of wearing the ORANGE uni’s —-I like them —they( players ) just seem to play with more speed / athleticism —I know get real NOMAD —–but I believe we wore them about 6 times last year and won each game —does anyone have any research of our record wearing the ORANGE
Yellow & Orange unis are my favorites.
I am in for it. Though I do not like the blues. Hard to do one without the other.
mikeo/ Raoul and I am sure —thousands of fans are UPSET with the very obvious tanking by so many teams —TOTAL EMBARASSEMENT —-someone mentioned to cut the season to 60 games —all in for that —nba would NEVER do—-loss of too much revenue –but yes this last 5 weeks have been almost unbearable
Raoul—-congrats –great news –thank you for sharing –prayers are always with you —-STAY YOUNG MY FRIEND —-ooops went over my limit again —-
I wonder which starting lineup the Cavs will use against the Pacers in the first round? Nance, Bron, Love, Hood and Hill or Love, Bron, Green, Hood and Hill? Nance has proven that he can hit a 10-15 feet out jumpshot so he shouldn’t affect spacing that much if he gets the start. At the other hand if the Cavs play JG, Bron, KLove and the Pacers play Miles, DY and Sabonis the Pacers will pound the Cavs down low easily IMO. Also the JG, Bron and Love line up will not bring any rim protection. I’m really anxious to… Read more »
lues secret defense!
Exactly, it’s so “secret” that even he doesn’t know about it lol.
The way to stop tanking is putting all 30 teams in the lottery. First place team gets one ticket, last team gets 30 tickets, for a total of 465 tickets in the lottery. Then the difference between finishing, say 27 or 30 is only three more tickets, less than 10% more likely to get a better pick.
This would be too easy, and a lot more fun.
Also, have the drawing done on live TV instead of behind closed doors
Excellent point! It would be a huge ratings success.
I’d be fine with that. The tanking down the stretch this season should be embarrassing for the league.
I won’t be the next time the Cavs are terrible.
I think Cavs make it back to the Finals mainly because of Playoff LeBron, whom no team in the East yet has an answer for. Last year, we similarly lamented about lack of effort/focus and Lue’s coaching and the team still nearly swept the first three rounds.
Yes, Cavs have major holes and issues that make me doubt being able to mount a competitive Finals series, but even with all the new pieces, we have more than enough to get out of the East.
what really bother’s me with the T.T. / ANTE thing—is after the kid had a very good 5-6 games they didn’t just curtail his minutes a ‘little ‘—–THEY COMPLETELY BANISHED / FOR GOT ABOUT HIM ON THE BENCH—-INSTEAD OF STILL STICKING WITH HIM AND SEE HOW THEY CAN GET VALUABLE MINUTES OUT OF HIM AND STILL PLAY/ EVALUATE HOW T.T. IS GOING TO PERFORM —–THIS DECISION HAS BEEN TOTALLY B.S AND IT IS GOING TO HURT / COST THE CAVS —-THOSE FUTILE ATTEMPTS BY T.T. LAST NIGHT AGAINST A WEAK KNICKS TEAM —WELL WTF DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING… Read more »
BTW, you have hit the 90+ percent mark on UPPERCASE LETTERS again. Remember your blood pressure!
More BTW, yesterday I scored a low low ZERO PSA score (post operation, post radiation therapy). This is a good thing, and I mention this to encourage anyone facing serious medical issues: Don’t panic, a lot of times these things work.
I am celebrating by switching from PBR to Modelo + lemon all week!
Wow Raoul, I must had missed your info but sending positive vibes your way.
I had not previously mentioned this. It is a lot easier when things go right.
Understandable ;)
Glad to hear that Raoul.
Cool!
hoping for a full recovery, Raoul!
This team will prob squeak through to the Finals, and likely lose to GS. The first thing that needs to be done after the season ends is to fire Lue. This team is actually good enough to win the title, but it’ll never happen with him at the helm. His inability to correctly use ZZ, Nance, and Cedi is inexcusable.
Completely agree.
This is certainly the most likely outcome. But I think the Cavs have at least a 25% chance of winning it all. I would increase that to at least 40% of Lue would go back to film study.
Agreed.
I’m with nomad in saying this team is nowhere near playoff ready and it all falls on the coaching staff. Lue/Larry decided to remove Zz from the rotation and insert TT back in. Why in the freaking world would they do that is beyond me. TT does nothing, absolutely nothing better or even equal to a younger, taller, smarter center in Zz. On top of that, Lue decides to remove Cedi from the rotation and keeps adding minutes to JR and Green (along with TT). This is ridiculous because neither JR nor Green need more minutes to get acclimated with… Read more »
IMO, JR will be fine in the playoffs. He’s been playing his way into form of late. My take is that Lue doesn’t feel like Cedi is ready for the spotlight yet, or to deal with the pressure of hitting a big shot. As for anyone TT, it’s obvious hes got nothing. Perk might actually be better. Bu yeah, Zizic would’ve been nice to get him prepped for the playoffs. No one has gotten jerked around for no good reason more than Nance though.
Jr defense is soo bad why gamble on hoping and thinking and wishing and trying to be optimistic that in playoffs it’ll be diff , we have other consistent players that offer nice stuff consistently wouldn’t u rather that than the risk and small chance that hel perform on the high level , Just look at him -he can’t stop one guy from blowing by him
The Nance issue falls back on TT. The need to play TT makes everything more complicated for everyone else, Nance and Zz taking the brunt of it.
Other than to justify his salary, why will TT play over Zz or equal minutes to Nance?
I understand TT is a Klutch player, but LeBron HAS to see that he doesn’t help in any way, shape or form. How is LeBron not seeing/voicing that?
No one can really explain why TT is getting playing time… Not even Lue, I think…
Yup and cedi would do a great job harassing klay in the finals
Didn’t Lue say there would be a new defensive scheme last year, too?
Lue’s a freaking moron and should had been fired after last finals.
Totally agree with this comment.
feel like since klove went public with his anxiety issues —that took a HUGE burden off of him—-he is more relaxed / confident ——–HE HAS THIS COMING TO HIM after all the b.s. he has professionally tolerated since he has been a cav —–GO KLOVE / CAVS !!!
Love gets the ball up so fast now on those three pointers. Remember how indecisive he was the first year here? LeBron was right all along about “fitting in.” A genius ahead of his time.
Yes to indecisive, but even up to his break this year, he was too quick to bail on a 3 when an opponent closed out on him. And when he bailed, he wouldn’t try to reposition for the shot, he’d just pass the ball. I think someone experienced got hold of him and told him what he needed to do, and he listened. The difference is palpable.
TAKEAWAYS FROM LAST NIGHT ( POSTED ON PREVIOUS BLOG )- – I realize it was a”somewhat meaningless game ‘—-this team is NOT playoff ready –with less than a week to get there – ty made comment our defense will change come playoffs ——ty “talk is cheap “—-as of right now we can’t stop dribble penetration ——-PNR ——closeouts are lazy ——-rebounding is NOT playoff ready —PACERS WILL CARVE US UP -rotations / in game adjustments —(which are very crucial )—still suck ( see t.t. still in rotation )—would almost prefer ANGRY SMURF in there instead pf t.t. )—— -still NOT focused… Read more »
As far as defense, don’t forget literally not knowing who and where to rotate to after a single rotation as well as after initial penetration off the p and r. Either the schemes have to be simplified for this team, or they need serious practice time to learn the schemes. The latter seems more doable at this stage. The number of times I have seen two guys close out, or switch onto one player, or rotate to the paint to cut off penetration is beyond belief this season. Focus can solve some of the back cut issues and losing shooters… Read more »
I mean former seems more doable.
9th best lottery odds feels like legitimately the worst case scenario for the Cavs. Like a bottom 5% outcome at the beginning of the year. Really unlucky, and incredible that the Nets have beaten the Heat and Bucks recently
Should the Cavs throw Wed’s game to get the 8th best odds actually? Considering 4th seed is locked up, and the Bucks have been resting Giannis and don’t feel like they will upset Philly
Nets have to be satisfied with their season – some of their young players have really shown improvement, Dinwiddie, Rondae, Lavert & Jumpin’ Joe particularly (very happy for Joe, thought 2 years ago he was going to be out of the league).
But yeah, bad for Cavs.
It was never good to be top five. Looking at the standings four months ago i knew it’d be the ninth pick. Bad teams are better than tanking teams. Not trying is undefeated.
“Not trying” is not “trying to lose,” which is what these teams were doing. It was fraud, pure and simple.
I guess I meant not trying to win. I don’t think the players ever try to lose, not that I’ve seen. The organizations are trying to lose though, for sure. On the one hand, it’s infuriating, but it’s not like the Cavs haven’t done it in the past as well. I really think that teams should be allowed to declare for the lottery before or at a cutoff point during the season. Then they can truly focus on developing their players without any pressure from GMs to play intentionally bad lineups at the end of games, etc.
I’m not sure how this would work in regards to who gets what draft pick but its pretty clear something needs to be down. Highly doubt that little baby measure they put in place for next year will make a lick of difference.